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Kings Links: What Donte Greene Has to Prove, Hassan Whiteside's ADD

Marty Mac's World - Donte Greene and Kings have much to prove
Marty McNeal talks to Donte about what he needs to do this year. There's also Geoff Petrie's reaction to Hollinger's preview in there.

Sacramento Bee - Donte Greene adds 25 pounds
Speaking of Donte, he tells Jason Jones he gained 25 pounds this summer.

USATODAY.com - Kings ticket sales booming
The Kings have sold a ton of season tickets. That's good news with the arena situation at Defcon 5.

More after the jump. 

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Sacramento Bee - Kings' Evans is driven to improve his jump shot
Jones talks to Evans about that jumper.

Kings Talking Points - Video: Hassan Whiteside answers the ADD question, but leaves us wondering...
I'm sorry, but does anyone else find the presentation of this question just a little ... tasteless? They say bloggers have no couth, but this is a longtime newspaper veteran pulling this bit.

Kings Blog and Q&A - Kings competitive amongst themselves

The Works: Gilbert Arenas Is Not Michael Vick; NBA Watchability Index
This includes our Kings preview as well as the Watchability Index for 2010-11. Kings rate well. Note that Kevin Pelton's SCHOENE projection system predicts 43 wins for the Kings. (And only 44 for the Lakers.)

FanHouse: D-League to Adopt Rule Changes Similar to FIBA, NBA Could Follow Suit
The D-League is adopting a shorter overtime (three minutes instead of five) and FIBA's no-goaltending-once-the-ball-hits-the-rim rule. The NBA could be next. Hassan Whiteside just got more valuable to the Reno Bighorns.

SB Nation DC - Behind Ted Leonsis' $100,000 Fine
In case you missed it, new Wizards owner Ted Leonsis told a luncheon crowd NBA owners will be pushing for a hard cap. Fire up the Chris Webber voice ...

Marty Mac's World - Easier to stop Chris Paul than get an interview with World Wide Wes
Marty's funny tale of trying to get William Wesley to give him the time of day.

The Works - Being Jeff Green; LeBron Adds Insult to Injury; D.C. Dischord
I know we have some Fugazi/D.C. hardcore fans 'round here. We invented the D.C. Dischord, assigning a handful of D.C./Baltimore-bred players (including Donté) a track from a Dischord Records artist.

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I think it's more of a 3 or (hopefully not) 2

Yes, people always get that scale backwards.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Sep 30, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

On the plus side

It’d probably allow Hassan to become DPoY 10 years in a row.

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by Aykis16 on Sep 30, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

But Tyreke would have more trouble because he doesn’t finish above the rim.

"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!

by caseycheesecake on Sep 30, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know what to think of Pelton's SCHOENE projection system.

It’s nice to see it project us at 43 wins, but if I’m not mistaken, it appears to project Golden State having home court in the first round of the playoffs while we sit at #9 in the Western Conference. Does anyone know anything about what exactly it uses to project wins? Odd to see PHX and HOU below CLE and NJ.

by twasserm on Sep 30, 2010 11:58 AM PDT reply actions  

In response to Hollinger...
Said Petrie with an ultimate sarcasm, “I’ve always been a plan-less guy. Sometimes you have to consider the source.”

You go Geoff.

Fuck you Hollinger.

by Mityt on Sep 30, 2010 12:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow

The Whiteside ADD question was either ballsy or douchey. I’m going with douchey.

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by section214 on Sep 30, 2010 12:50 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Douchy it is.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Sep 30, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree.

I wrote on it and put the video up @ TPP but I didn’t feel good about either the question or the way it was asked. This was his shtick. He ran around loudly throwing out hair brained questions to anyone who would answer him just to get a rise. Not my style.

The world is not your Trade Machine.

-Ziller

by jjham15 on Sep 30, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I loved (sarcastic) his "Thank you" at the end, there.

Lol…so douchey.

"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!

by caseycheesecake on Oct 1, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

25 lbs ?!?!?

Further fueling my suspicion of PED (ab)use in the NBA.

by sactown on Sep 30, 2010 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

The 25lbs was way overblown by the writer.

At the 2008 combine, Donte was weighted in at 221. Now he says that he’s 251, so he’s gained 30lbs over the last 27 months. And, if I’m not mistaken he put half of the 30lbs on before training camp last season. So, it’s been a slow but steedy improvement, through hard work and improved diet (more Benihana and less Carls).

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Sep 30, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

*cough* GRASWICH *cough*

From McNeal’s article:

Then reality smacked me like an old girlfriend’s right hand.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen. And for a limited time, every third person who follows me on Twitter (andy_sims) gets a free ice cream cone.

Which I will eat.

by andy sims on Sep 30, 2010 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

The players enjoyed my questions

Not sure who you were watching, but I didn’t “run around” throwing out loud questions. I took the players off to a side where very few people could here me, unless they were trying to eavesdrop. Whiteside is the only player I interviewed in a less than private setting. Oh, and the players really enjoyed my questions. Refreshing break from the usual run-of-the-mill generic questions.

by kingstalkingpoints on Sep 30, 2010 7:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah,

it’s all that they could talk about today – how refreshing you were.

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by section214 on Sep 30, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

But I don’t really want to get in a pissing match over this. Here are your own words.

Now watch the video and decide. Once again, the kid is young. Very young. It might be embarrassing to admit. And I’m a bit overbearing. So take that into consideration.

There were a lot of people at media day and by far, your 5 question bit was the loudest. I get it, it is your thing but in my opinion, hitting up a 21 year old rookie about medical history rumors, loudly (which you can hear on the video) in front a crowded room of people is tacky. And so is this:

Credit to Ron Wenig from KingsTalkingPoints.blogspot.com for asking the tough questions.

Sam Amick seems to like you and I like Sam Amick. Again, I’m not looking for a fight but I honestly think you crossed a line with Whiteside.

The world is not your Trade Machine.

-Ziller

by jjham15 on Sep 30, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

James, why the upset?

Why were you eavesdropping on my questions? i was in the back BEHIND the Bee photo shoot area for my interviews (except the Hassan one)… the only way to hear me is if YOU WANTED to come over and listen. Why were you in the Bee area? My voice certainly WASN’T booming across the bowels of the arena.

Wasn’t aware it was a problem to speak clearly and directly during an interview, but go ahead and remain meek if you wish.

And yes, the players enjoyed the interviews, whether you want to believe that or not. Watch the videos and the videos to come. They are all having a very good time. And some of the answers are actually quite revealing. Not sure why this is a problem for you.

P.S. I asked for a few minutes with Whiteside alone and I was granted it. My interview began AWAY from the other reporters. Others than proceeded to come over, probably because I am so fascinating (that’s sarcasm, fellows)

But beyond that, the ADD was NOT a rumor. His agent confirmed it two months ago. I was not asking if he was having an affair. I was asking about a legitimate health condition. Now unless you think ADD is a horrible shameful disease, what makes this different than asking if he was suffering from Diabetes and that his agent said he needed to stay on insulin?

by kingstalkingpoints on Sep 30, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just a couple of things.
And yes, the players enjoyed the interviews, whether you want to believe that or not. Watch the videos and the videos to come. They are all having a very good time. And some of the answers are actually quite revealing. Not sure why this is a problem for you.

I have no doubt that some of the players enjoyed the questions. I DO KNOW that Hassan Whiteside did not enjoy your questions, at all- and neither did I. And that has been the question at hand. And this isn’t only a problem for me. Read the other posters here. Also, I probably won’t be watching any more of your videos which is a shame because I thought your Tyreke Evans question about using the rookie of the year thing as a pick up line was funny.

My interview began AWAY from the other reporters

You were standing in the middle of the walk way, 10 feet away from the established cubicles. If that was a few minutes alone, 50+ people were way out of place. The Evans questions were close to the main through way as well. The rest I didn’t hear but I got the jest of your approach from the two I did see.

But beyond that, the ADD was NOT a rumor. His agent confirmed it two months ago.

Then why did you ask the question? ADD is an embarrassing disorder for those who have it. If Whiteside does indeed have ADD which is not exactly what your quote from Amick says, then he probably is embarrassed about it. Whiteside answered the “craziest thing you heard about yourself before the draft” question. Unless you don’t understand your own question, he thought that was crazy. So instead of moving on to question #4 or #5 or your pre-scripted 5 questions, you chose to ask a question that you already knew the answer to. So either you were trying to embarrass the kid or you were trying to catch him in a lie. Neither of those things are enjoyable.

As for why I posted the video? Because some one else was insensitive enough to ask the question and Whiteside answered it. The video is not embarrassing in itself, the actual moment when he was caught off guard by you was. I had not seen Amick’s comments confirming the use of prescription drugs, so I had no angle. I reported that a question that surrounded a Kings draft pick was asked and answered.

Here are two other things I didn’t do.

I also did not go around touting that I ask the tough questions. How tough is a question that you already know the answer to?

And I didn’t take a video of a player denying that he had a specific illness and then go on line and use knowledge I already had to discredit that player.

The fact is, you are right about one thing. The answer that Whiteside gave was news worthy for me because I did not have Amick’s quote. If you had sat in one of the 3 booths and had a quiet conversation where you asked “the tough questions”, even if you knew the answer, then you are gathering information for a story, Whiteside probably would have answered honestly and I don’t think anyone would have an issue you. That is not what you did and your video and my video and your post on your site show that. So the question of taste remains.

You can call me meek, which I am not and you can call me a hypocrite, again, which I am not but what you can’t call me is a bully. I didn’t go to media day to listen to you, I went to get information on the Sacramento Kings players. And that is what I did without making the news. Honestly, I have no idea who you are, even though I stood right next to you during the Whiteside debacle. You managed to make a 7 foot tall NBA basketball player look 3 feet tall and I’m not sure why you are proud about that.

The world is not your Trade Machine.

-Ziller

by jjham15 on Oct 1, 2010 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

James, keep watching and learning

James, you had to eavesdrop to hear the Tyreke Evans interview. It was in the Bee photo area. But that’s fine. It was a good interview. And I hope you were taking notes. But don’t make it sound like I was taking players and yelling out questions for all to hear.

Keep on listening and learning.

by kingstalkingpoints on Oct 1, 2010 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Holy holier-than-thou, Batman!

The Evans interview I’m thinking of happened out by the tunnel-parking lot entrance. I’m guessing that’s what James is talking about too. If you had a separate back around the corner, that’s where the confusion comes in.

I hope talking down to fellow writers for having the audacity to disagree with you fills your heart with glee, because it ain’t doing a damn thing for anyone else.

by Tom Ziller on Oct 1, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wrong again

Both Tom and James, you guys are amazingly obsessed over me. I’m kind of flattered. But I was never by the parking lot entrance/tunnel to do an interview. Get your facts straight. Watch the video. It’s the same place I did every other video except Hassan. Right next to the Bee photo shoot area.

And, just to set the facts straight, I wasn’t the one who began this debate. You guys criticized me. I am only defending myself.

by kingstalkingpoints on Oct 1, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good grief

I said the main, big interview with Tyreke happened in the tunnel, hence the confusion about that. By all that is holy, no one is questioning that you interviewed him where you say you did. THERE WAS CONFUSION. IT HAS BEEN RESOLVED. GET OVER YOURSELF.

by Tom Ziller on Oct 1, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am watching an learning everyday.

Just so you know, I take great pride in being my own man. I learn from not only making my own mistakes but also by watching other people make mistakes and avoiding those pit falls as well. I don’t want to “that guy” and I don’t want to be you. This whole process- with you, has been a learning experience for me and unfortunately, I do not believe that you have gleaned an iota from it which is a real shame. Good luck. I will continue to learn and grow in this role and trust me, I am always “watching and learning”, it just won’t be from you.

The world is not your Trade Machine.

-Ziller

by jjham15 on Oct 1, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're a wiener face.

Humility goes a long way.

"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!

by caseycheesecake on Oct 1, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's too bad you won't be learning from ktp

There is much value that can be derived from bad examples.

"Live Long and Prosper." - Spock

by hozr on Oct 1, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and if you're going to be offended, don't be hypocritical

One last thing, James. Strangely, you posted the video of my interview with Whiteside on your blog. If this was so offensive to you, why on earth did you post it?

Could it be that it was news?

Wow, what a concept. You felt it might be interesting to your readers.

by kingstalkingpoints on Sep 30, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blog Wars!

I’m a Kings fan. Being a Kings fan means I like to support the team and the players. Regardless of if it was newsworthy or not. Hassan did not look comfortable with the question at hand.
So do you have a supporting interest in this team or are you just hear to make a story?

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by chenp22 on Oct 1, 2010 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a fan, not a flunky

I will never blog to simply support the team. You won’t like kingstalkingpoints.blogspot.com if you want pure homerism. But if you like sarcastic barbs, humor, and interesting takes, it’s for you.

by kingstalkingpoints on Oct 1, 2010 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Suggestion

Get the URL tattooed on your forehead. Same shameless self-promotion, less CO2 released into the atmosphere.

by Tom Ziller on Oct 1, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tom, I tried to make nice

I’m pretty sure I was the one who emailed you to say I understood how you felt and offered to put a banner and link on my site to your website.

But if you want to keep playing bad boys of blog, I’m game. This is fun.

Gonna be a great season!

by kingstalkingpoints on Oct 1, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

One more thing

I was doing online blogs about the Kings before Tom or James or, in fact, 99 percent of all the people in the country, were doing them.

Just wanted to pat myself on the back.

Wow, my elbow hurts.

by kingstalkingpoints on Oct 1, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Easy there, Summer's Eve

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by section214 on Oct 1, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Word.

The world is not your Trade Machine.

-Ziller

by jjham15 on Oct 1, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

haven't had time to watch the ADD video and not sure where this guy is coming from

but any and all comments with an 8 bit dog + sunglasses + “deal with it” scrolled across it gets a rec from me.

"Once again i still dont get it. We have the best backcourt in the league. 1 of the best front courts in the West. A nice bench. What team in the west cant we compete with besides the Lakers? What team in the west u guys can look at and say damn they’re much better than us? Seriously? Not being a homer at all." ~ J-Ridah's Golden State Warriors analysis.

by wallywagon11 on Oct 1, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's a line between asking interesting questions

- and being intrusive to embarrass the celebrity. That’s alway more about the questioner than anythng else.
 
It’s not that fine a line really.
It’s tabloid jouralism and I personally don’t like it. But hey, I don’t watch reality shows either. I’m sure there are interesting ‘out of the box’ questions that can be asked that don’t fall into that category.

So imitate the action of the tiger!.
Lend the eye a terrible aspect
- and teach them how to war!
Henry V iii

by lietothegirls on Sep 30, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey guys. I MAY have ADD.

Where’s my interview?

This.

by elfboy_ on Oct 1, 2010 4:31 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

ktp is on his way over

I assure you, it will be very refreshing.

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by section214 on Oct 1, 2010 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

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