Sorry RekeROY, I'm having an inner Judas moment here...
I was ready to drop the cheddar on a personalized authentic Griffin jersey. Not only because my last name is "Griffin" but because this guy got me started on college basketball. The Kings were so horrible that I actually started "scouting" the unanimous #1 overall talent. Because of a knee injury for Griffin, it took an extra year but seriously today for some reason I'm just sitting here wishing that he was ours to enjoy as Kings fans. Explosive dunks, Powerful in the post, Gingery Appearance, What's not to love? I realize that this may come across as ungrateful for the exciting game winners and ROY season that our NaPG has provided us but DAMMIT, the world needed to know what I was feeling today. Blake Griffin, you should've been ours. I feel better now... Thanks for listening.
If liking Blake Griffin's play to the extent of still wishing our ping pong balls had landed differently for their draft is wrong, then I don't want to be right.
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by kwill on Jan 17, 2011 11:04 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Griffin has already sustained a season ending injury before he played a season lawl. If he stays healthy I’ll be impressed.
The very moment we found out that Minnesotta got the 6th pick in the draft
is when I stopped fantasizing or thinking about Blake Griffin being in a Kings uniform.
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Maybe I’m a Reke fanboy or something, but I’m still think he’s the better player. Blake is a low key Dwight Howard in that his offensive game is limited. If he’s not dunking or playing off someone else he’s not going to score a lot.
No back to the basket game yet no post moves just raw athleticism and strength. Reke makes everyone around him better when he’s actively looking for teammates. He can effect the game in so many ways Blake can’t.
If reke gets the jumper consistent like Wade did hell be just as good and unstoppable. I still think we got off better they’d easily be number 1 and 2 in that draft today.
by dj3ptspecialist44 on Jan 17, 2011 12:58 PM PST via mobile reply actions
although I disagree with your assessment of Griffin, to be honest though
whether or not Tyreke or Griffin is a better player … eh
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by wallywagon11 on Jan 17, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That's a common misconception that Griffin relies solely on his athletic ability.
Watch the replay of his game today vs the Pacers for example. He does absolutely everything you could ask a PF to do. He is the better player already. But when it comes to winning games, I think Tyreke at his best (1st half of Detroit game) and Griffin at his best (today vs Pacers), I’d pick Tyreke.
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by caseycheesecake on Jan 17, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
It's worth pointing out that a lot of the Clippers around him are more polished young players than what the Kings have.
And the result of having multiple top 10 picks in the last several years as well. Plus all the patience with their own pet project in DeAndre Jordan has worked out well because of Griffin.
I honestly think a healthy Reke would make the gap look smaller than it really is.
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He's Karl Malone...with hops
He is freaking scary.
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by section214 on Jan 17, 2011 7:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
As an NBA fan, you should definitely watch more Blake Griffin.
Cause you’re completely underselling the guy and clearly have not given him a proper review.
" 1 + 1 = 3 " - David Kahn
"Makes player around him better" - seriously???
" Reke makes everyone around him better when he’s actively looking for teammates"
I beg to differ
when was the last time he did that!?
Reke is the single least successful PG is the entire league at making his friends better (out of starting guards, that is).
The ROY sesson, in which he played horrendous team basketball overwhelmed by sheer talent, just tells me that everybody approves of this style of play,, and I can’t understand that at all.
Reke is the single least successful PG is the entire league at making his friends better
Do you have any info to back this up?
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by prowseinthehouse on Jan 18, 2011 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
technically one could argue it's Darren Collison, then Mo Williams
given the Cavs and Pacers +/- numbers when they are on and off the floor
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by wallywagon11 on Jan 18, 2011 11:19 PM PST up reply actions
Griffin is a stud
It’s perfectly reasonable to Man-Crush on a guy that we could have gotten if the ping pong balls dropped a little differently.
He’s a stud and is becoming an absolute force…47 pts today? Really? WOW…and efficient…
We’ve got Tyreke and a ROY year to enjoy, and that was a lot of fun.
We aren’t trading Tyreke and the Clips aren’t moving Griffin so the conversation is fun…if I was creating a team and had the rookies to choose from in the last two years…
I’d pick Griffin first. I don’t even know if I would choose Tyreke second….blasphemous!
First Ginger ROY
I would guess that Bill Walton would be the first Ginger ROY candidate…but alas he did not deliver the hardware…
Brian Scalabrine was clearly hosed because of his Ginger Status…never got his chance…I believe Pau Gasol stole it from him that year…
Indeed BG could finally deliver the ROY and Ginger Man of theYear…
Comedy!
I'd rather have Blake Griffin
Than anybody in the last three drafts, including Rose, Westbrook and his sidekick, Eric Gordon. The only player in the past four drafts I’d rather have is Kevin Durant.
"Remember now, patience and stop the whining. This is something we have to endure to get better. We have no choice. Stick with Petrie, stick with Westphal, stick with Tyreke, stick it to the fans."
Make that the past five drafts
And outside of Chris Paul and maybe Deron Williams, you could stretch that to the past six drafts.
OK, I’ll stick with the third best player in the past six drafts behind Durant and Paul.
"Remember now, patience and stop the whining. This is something we have to endure to get better. We have no choice. Stick with Petrie, stick with Westphal, stick with Tyreke, stick it to the fans."
If I were starting my own NBA team,
Griffin would be one of my 9 options for 1st pick, factoring in both talent and age. They are (in no particular order) Wade, James, Howard, Rose, Paul, Durant, Westbrook, D. Williams, and Griffin. If I had one year to build a winner, then I take Kobe. But if I am building for the long haul, give me one of those 9 guys.
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Ewwww, picking Kobe..really...the dude is so damn overrated.
If you want a one year winner, pick LeBron. Just give him a team that’d make the playoffs w/o him, and you got a championship.
" 1 + 1 = 3 " - David Kahn
LeBron is a great regular season player
But he hasn’t proven he can get it done in the playoffs. I’d take Kobe over him for a one-series rental, even though he’s starting to get on in years..
"Remember now, patience and stop the whining. This is something we have to endure to get better. We have no choice. Stick with Petrie, stick with Westphal, stick with Tyreke, stick it to the fans."
Lol, he has some of the best playoff numbers of ANY player in NBA history.
And the team he just left is the worst in the league. Btw, do you reailze he took a team starting Daniel Gibson, Sasha Pavlovic, Drew Gooden, and Big Z to the NBA Finals?? Which other player could have done that. Serously, look at how awful the Cavs are. That was his “improved” squad (+/- ramon sessions, shaq, big z, and delonte west).
IMO, it is completely ludicrous to even consider that LeBron has been a disappointment in the playoffs or hasn’t proven himself the best player in the league by a HUGE margin.
" 1 + 1 = 3 " - David Kahn
Oh yeah the fact that the East wasn't weak had nothing to do with LeBron James making the Finals in 07.
But you can have LeBron and I’ll take Kobe and we’ll see who wins. :)
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Come on what?
I still take Kobe.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.
Aite Pookey
you take Boobie, Sasha, Gooden, and Big Z with Kobe, and see if he leads em to the finals. Kobe hasn’t even won a single playoff series w/o another allstar next to him.
" 1 + 1 = 3 " - David Kahn
If he does that in the East you aren't going to knock Kobe for doing that?
Uh huh, right. You would be all over that. Because you’re an admitted LeBron nut hugger, you’ll make it up to be the next act of God. Go for it mayne. I just wasn’t that impressed and still am not. You can have LeBron and I’ll take Kobe. Every. friggin. time. Get it? I don’t like LeBron don’t want him on my team, and I can’t stand players who don’t lay it on the line to get wins. LeBron just doesn’t do that like him or not. And you know what? Do I care what you think? Cmon Shizzo, you know me well enough to know that answer.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.
Why do you have to get so personal and defensive?
Do I care what you think? Cmon Shizzo, you know me well enough to know that answer.
Pretty unnecessary. I’m just tryin to have an honest basketball discussion with you.
And trust me, I get you hate LeBron. Oh yea, I get that. You hate him more than I like him. What do you credit for the Cavs being the worst team in the league this year after leading the NBA in (regular season) wins for 2 consecutive season?
" 1 + 1 = 3 " - David Kahn
No team would succeed after a player like LeBron walks Shizzo.
They were built around him for a reason. You take him away, and suddenly they aren’t that good. It’s really not that surprising.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.
I don’t like LeBron don’t want him on my team, and I can’t stand players who don’t lay it on the line to get wins.
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Hahaha Juan.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.
Well ...
Do you realize that Kobe won 45 games with a team starting Odom, Smush Parker, and a mix of Brian Cook, Kwame, and Devean George? Heck it took the Suns 7 games to beat them with Marion, Nash, Amare all in their prime and with Diaw and Barbosa.
We’ll see what Lebron does with great players next to him but can’t really say I blame people for thinking Kobe has had the better career so far. Time will tell either way.
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by wallywagon11 on Jan 17, 2011 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
I see what you're saying, but when he had Caron Butler (who made the All-star team the following season)
and Odom, he still did not win a single playoff series. Kobe’s worst team of his career is very comparable to LeBron’s best team (until this season obv) in terms of overall talent. And with that said, Kobe has not won a playoff series w/o another allstar next to him (or for that matter even when he had two close ones — Odom and Butler).
In the end it’s all senseless argueing cause we don’t have the super section214 power to transport NBA players through time and space.
" 1 + 1 = 3 " - David Kahn
speaking of that 04-05 season
Kobe was hurt, Odom was hurt, Vlade got hurt early and retired, Rudy T retired mid season (with a winning record), and their forth best player was a combination of Chucky Atkins, Chris Mihm, Jumaine Jones, and Brian Cook.
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by wallywagon11 on Jan 18, 2011 8:10 AM PST up reply actions
Kobe is a total douche bag,
but one thing he is not is overrated. He is either the best or the 2nd best player in the world, and he has scoreboard on his side. One and done, give me Kobe.
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Well sir, I live in LA. And lemme tell you, round here, he is VERY overrated.
" 1 + 1 = 3 " - David Kahn
So,
he is likely overrated in LA, and fairly rated everywhere else (perhaps even underrated by those that let their personal distaste for the man cloud their reason as it pertains to his basketball ability).
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I wonder how many more years we're going to be able to say that.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.
Depends
You can probably count him among the world’s best for the next couple of years. You can count him as a douche bag for decades to come.
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LeBron James is a douchebag. So is Chris Webber.
Lotsa NBA stars are. It would probably be more interesting to find a NBA star who wasn’t a major league douchenuggetdeluxe than it would be to name the one’s who are.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.
It's the adultery thing for me
Pure and simple. What LeBron did this past summer was slimy, but he didn’t bend a 19 year old co-ed over a chair in Colorado.
“It wasn’t rape,” says the Laker fan, “It was consensual adultery!”
Great player. Miserable human being.
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by section214 on Jan 17, 2011 9:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Technically the Laker fan is right.
Realistically Kobe was an idiot. You don’t get married at 22 and then feel trapped by a marriage nobody but yourself pushed you towards.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.
Do you mean a non douchebaggery character like...
Blake Griffin pookey?
by Nutterball on Jan 18, 2011 11:49 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Nothing keeping him from being one for that matter.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.
Going to make myself sound like a moron but whatever
one guy who I always thought was a tad bit overrated is Marcus Camby
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by wallywagon11 on Jan 17, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
With you there.
In fact, he’s one guy who has gotten better with age. Seriously.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.
He's soft.
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by caseycheesecake on Jan 18, 2011 7:50 AM PST up reply actions
true
He stopped gambling as much on defense. No clue if it is because he got smarter or he just knew he didn’t have the athletic ability to try and do it anymore.
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by wallywagon11 on Jan 18, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Interesting theory.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.
Sounds like grist for a thread
I’d put Rose, Westbrook and D Williams at the bottom of that list, and I think some guys like Melo might also factor into that conversation.
"Remember now, patience and stop the whining. This is something we have to endure to get better. We have no choice. Stick with Petrie, stick with Westphal, stick with Tyreke, stick it to the fans."
I'd take Griffin, Paul, D. Williams, and maybe even Westbrook
over Durant.
Durant is too one dimensional for my taste. Though he’s damn good at that dimension.
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by SavageBeast on Jan 18, 2011 6:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Kobe and LeBron are both Jackasses
They happen to be my LEAST favorite players…However…if one of them were available for a package of Dalmebert and our #1 pick next year, I would happily take that deal. I would watch them much the same way I watched Bonds play for my Giants…Hate the player personally…love it when they deliver wins to the team…
Now before you go telling me that could never happen, I already checked it out in the Trade Machine…it said it was good to go…so it must be possible.
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