Kings Forfeit Game, Broadcast Re-Run of Previous Loss to Warriors

Ironically compliment each other pretty well IMO.
Beno has been generally fantastic on offense this year and Tyreke’s defense has been solid as well. Its unfortunate that they each generally lack what the other has but at times have shown they can both be good on offense and defense. Its the consistency that they are both lacking in. The whole team generally lacks consistency as reflected in their free throw shooting.
Feels like yesterday that they were starting to impress with their play, then Tyreke sat out with the ankle, and the road trip came along, and POOF back to total suckage.

“Teeth” of the defense was hilarious BTW. More like “Gums” of the defense!

hear hear

Can you just cut and paste the comments from the previous Warrior Kings post game thread here so we can all get to therapy on time? Thanks.

I get you cannot expect a 100% conversion rate, but Tyreke is getting into trouble way too much going to the hole. I can see it coming a lot of the time when he drives the teeth of the defense without a clear advantage. And he gets push off the direct line to the basket, and gets caught in a bad angle. There has to be a safety valve, that is find a teammate or keep your dribble, but Tyreke too frequently does neither.

The expectation of your primary ball handler is to get good shots for himself or teammate, and yet Tyreke forgets this when he gets a head of steam. Score or bust. Pure mathematics says if he beats a defender and runs into another defender, a teammate has has to be open or unguarded!

I also get part of what we are seeing is learning curve of a young player, but better coaching and decision making by Reke can happen now, not to mention 25 losses ago. Simple 5-on-5 math: If Tyreke is defended by 2 or 3, then teammate is defended by zero.

Problems:
(1) Tyreke has ball-hogging tendencies. He does not trust his teammates. I am not concerned with what he may say into a microphone about playing unselfishly. Actions speak louder than words. I have seen spurts of unselfishness, but not enough.
(2) Teammates seem resigned to the fact when Tyreke drives they are unlikely to get the ball so do not work hard to get to open spots on the floor. They stand and watch and give up receiving a pass. A lack of leadership and communication seems fundamental, and both are lacking.
(3) PW and his coaching staff do a terrible job of designing play sets to create spacing and player movement off penetration. It has been a chronic issue all year and PW sits befuddled, bewildered, and bemoaned.
(4) Plantar fasciitis.

There is blame to go all around for inability to execute, some excusable (health, youth), mostly not (incompetency and inefficiency by involved parties). At the half way point of the season, the Kings are 9-32 and on pace to lose 64 games! Incredible!!! This team is not that bad. The loses are coming so fast and furious, it is hard to keep track.

So while we have seen improvement, and games are definitely a lot more fun, I am convinced there has to be sweeping personnel changes to get this team righted, from a new head coach, and assistant staff, to 4 to 5 new players in the rotation.

The dynamics of this team need to change, and that only will occur with new faces. Keep Cuz, Omri, and Reke, Beno and Cisco. Everyone else mark your calendars for Feb. 19th. You may need to contact U-Haul.

I might have died several times over the last several hours, but I’ve been assured by all the major Gods and all the minor demons that they don’t want me.

I’ve become numb to all this losing. As long as we can win 1 more game to avoid the joint worst record ever, I’m good. Paul Westphal though better start preparing his resume. Team might be playing better, but he’s still somehow not managed to get them to play 48 mins worth of basketball. Even that win against Denver, we coughed up a 14 point lead at one point!

Common Denominator: Dick Bavetta.

I read a stat way back when, that the Kings once had a 1-17 record whenever Bavetta officiated a game in the playoffs for them. Add Violet Palmer to the crew and no doubt, awful awful officiating.

Those first four possessions show one of the Kings’ overriding problems since the trade of Kevin Martin last season. Beno is a huge sieve on defense. He makes an occasional good play, and he tries hard. But he has little capacity of staying in front of anybody, on the pick-and-roll, in isolation, on cuts — anywhere. He’s awful on defense.

So Kevin Martin would help us out defensively? Funny, I never got that memo. It’s not like Kevin was a stopper or would have kept Curry from scoring. Although I agree about the point about Beno, I’m not sure it’s a perfect illustration of what the Kings miss with Kevin Martin.

So, here we have it: Beno’s defense kills the team on one end, but Reke’s needs ballhandling help desperately. So what do the Kings do in the final three minutes, up nine? Beno guards the second most dangerous Warrior while Reke runs the offense into the ground. The worst of both worlds.

100% agreed, but this was always going to be part of the learning curve with Tyreke. He was never a born facilitator and that development always promised to be painful on a live NBA court. Stating anything else is just simply revising history. Now Free Throw shooting…….

An inbounds alley-oop rarely works, especially when neither of the players involved have particularly wonderful hands. The Kings don’t have a plethora of shooters, especially with Francisco Garcia out. Still, I feel like with 0.9 seconds left, you have a better chance converting a catch-and-shoot and a catch-and-dunk.

The same problem exists with the inbounds of this particular situation as it does in late game situations: This team lacks poise and savvy to properly run these plays. My hope is one day the bi-product of this is that the poise and savvy to run plays at a high level comes out of the ashes of the recent repeated failure down the stretch of games.

The cynical and/or sinister could convince themselves that’s the best of both worlds: players are showing progress and effort, but the team’s draft status is perserved. I’m not willing to feel like way for a third straight season. I really, really would love to see these games end as Kings wins.

I can’t say I’ve felt like this at any point despite the reality that having a higher pick makes you better. I always feel it’s better to win than lose especially when the lottery only grants you a certain range of picks, and not a particular pick itself.

I keep hoping we’ll see this team turns it corner, and that’s all I’ve got. I’d rather see this team melt down during the stretch than look indifferent for most of the game and acting like the only reason they are on the court is to collect a paycheck. I’m not sure I want to categorize it as a necessary evil and step on learning how to win in the NBA, but maybe it is. Plenty of teams do that. Oh well, onto Portland in Monday. Maybe we turn the corner up there, but I’m not holding my breathe for it.

Golden State cashed in on 85% of their free throws (17-20).
The KIngs “cashed in” on 67.6% of their free throwns (25-37), and 50% in the 4th quarter (7-14).

Next.

…Dalembert: 57.1%
Cousins 48.4%
Udrih 63.9%
Evans 46.6%
Jeter 40.2%
Landry 60.9%
Garcia 52.6%
Thompson 55.4%
Casspi 46.4%

Here are the season averages for each player (under miscellaneous stats). Only Udrih and Landry are up significantly above their season stats, Jeter, Casspi and Garcia are all significantly below their season averages, and Evans Cousins and Thompson are all right around their season averages to date for the month of January.

Yowzah….

And yes, let’s get Tyreke healthy, because this season is history. But still, there are some pretty good pieces on this team. We shouldn’t blow it up. The other missing piece is a really solid shooter. Then add a bit of time to grow up and gain some maturity, and this team has a very bright future.

When the fuck are we going to win a fucking game? When are we going to man up and finish a fucking game? Holy shit.

We were the ones that were supposed to have the advantage in the paint. And, we played well at the rim, just like the Atlanta game. Against the Warriors we were 24-36 (67%) at the rim on 13 assisted baskets. But, GS was 22-34 (65%), to totally wipe out our advantage. But, it wasn’t Biedrins or Lee that killed us, it was Ellis, Curry and Law who were 9-16 and negated Tyreke and Beno’s 10-16. Away from the rim Tyreke & Beno were 6-20 for 30%, leaving us with no advantage at all.

Once again I have to ask what the heck, is PW doing. All week long we hear that he doesn’t want to mess with his rotation, because we’re working so well together. He has to think overnight whether to start Omri or not, I believe was the quote. Then he starts Omri, which is fine, but then he plays Dalembert 6 minutes?

I thought Dalembert was doing so well, he’d picked up his offense. He did a great job defending Aldridge late in the Portland game. He’s shooting 55% from the field and 85% from the FT line, grabbing 7 rebs, with 1.6 blocks in only 21 mpg. He runs a hell of a lot better than Cousins or Landry, and if he could defend Aldridge he could certainly defend Biedrins or Lee.

As fast as Ellis looked, I’m not sure Sammy is fast enough to help once Ellis beat Tyreke. But, it just seems strange, that in a time when PW is supposed to be stabilizing the rotations, that he chooses to cut the minutes of our best low post defender. Just when the team known for their outside shooting, matches us basket for basket in the paint.

“Those first four possessions show one of the Kings’ overriding problems since the trade of Kevin Martin last season.”

Those were our same problems when we had Kmart. I know you are really against the trade, but let’s not act like Kevin was any better on D or finishing games. I seem to remember us complaining about these same things when KMart here both during our 17 win season and the games he played last year.

I would love a better player than Beno to complement Reke, but a lot of our end of game issues are from youth. Our 2 best players are 20 and 21. We also had JT and Casspi out there for a lot of the last 3 minutes and OT and they are 22 and 23. More experience will help.

17 points, 19 rebounds.

And it was against DeAngelo Casto, who is probably the 2nd best big man in the Pac10.

Double him when he starts the play late in the clock. Cover Lee and Curry. Make Dorell Wright be the guy that beats you.