Toronto Scouting Report
On how Toronto was built:
In April of 2010, Toronto signs FA Joey Dorsey after he was released by the Kings for being too funny.
In June they drafted Ed Davis with the 13th pick of the Draft and acquired the rights to Salomon Alibi.
In July they signed RFA Linas Kleiza after Denver refuse to match their offer sheet.
Also, in July they traded Hedo Turkoglu to Phoenix for Leandro Barbosa and Dwayne Jones.
Then they traded a 2nd round pick to Houston for David Andersen.
In August they traded Marco Belinelli to New Orleans for Julian Wright.
Then in November they traded Jarrett Jack, Marcus Banks and David Andersen to New Orleans for Jerryd Bayless and Peja Stojakovic. The 3 players involved in the trade for the Raptors, had little impact in the game against the Kings on the 1st of November. They combined for 7 pts, 5 rebs and 6 assists in 38 minutes.
The Kings won the Nov. 1st game 111-108. Here’s what I had to say back then.
“Bargnani takes half of his shots from outside 10ft and might be more accurate away from the rim. Reggie Evans at 6-8 is an unbelievable rebounder, averaging 15 per game thru the first 2 games, but can't score a point to save his soul even when averaging 4.5 offensive rebounds per game.”
“Toronto’s backcourt is strong with DeRozan, Jack, Calderon, and Barbosa”
Bargnani ended up with 28pts on 4 of 4 from inside 10 ft. and 6 of 12 on long 2’s and 3’s. Reggie Evans finished with 19 rebounds, with 10 on the offensive boards but only 6 pts. DeRozan finished with 24 pts on 7-14 shooting and 10-14 from the FT Line. Calderon had 13pts/ 5asts / 2rebs while Jack only had 2pts / 5asts / 3rebs. And, Barbosa had 2pts & 3 rebounds; he and Jack went 2-11 from the field. Kleiza scored 18pts with 2 rebs at the starting SF position, while the reserves combined for 19pts.
For the Kings, Dalembert finished with 14 boards with 6 on the offensive glass and 4 pts to offset the rebounding of Evans. But, the Kings were outrebounded 42-40 and 17-16 on the offensive glass. With DeMarcus coming off the bench and scoring 16pts on 6-10 shooting, the Kings reserves were able to score 44 pts and win the game.
Raptors forward Reggie Evans suffered a broken right foot in the third quarter of the Nov. 26th game against Boston and has yet to return. In place of Evans, Amir Johnson a 6-9 PF, who played 4 years with Detroit right out of high school, has been starting. He’s averaging 9pts and 6 rebs in 24 minutes. Kleiza is starting at SF and averages 12 pts / 5 rebs on 44% shooting in 26 mpg. Bargnani starts a center and is their leading scorer, with 21 pts / 5.7 rebs on .467 from the field and .356 from 3pt range. DeRozan is the starting SG, averaging 14.4 pts / 3.4 rebs on .467 shooting field but shots only .091 from 3pt range. Caldron is the starting PG, averaging 10pts / 7.9 assist on .475 field and .449 from 3pt range.
Barbosa, Davis and Wright are the primary reserves, but Dorsey will see about 9-12 minutes. Bayless has seen action in about 18 games, but has been out with a injured ankle since Jan. 4th. No info on his return. Peja has seen action in only 2 games with Toronto and none since Nov. 26th.
Currently, Toronto allows the highest number of Made baskets at the rim and teams shoot 60% inside 10ft against the Raptors. The Raptors are the worst 3pt shooting team in the league, but the Kings aren’t exceedingly better although they seem to be improving with Cisco & Omri both shooting over 41% from 3pt range. The Raptors are a surprisingly good rebounding team, considering their lack of height on the front line. And, they on average outscore the Kings at the Rim on more attempts and outscore us inside 10ft with a higher shooting percentage. And, they shot at a better FG% on mid and long range jumpers.
They play at a slightly higher pace then the Kings do, but allow around 3 more points per game (104.6-101.3). There defensive rebounding rate is almost identical to the Kings. But, they are the 2nd to last in shot blocking while the Kings are the 10th best. They also have the 4th worst turnover rate.
The Raptors currently have a record of 12-24 and a home record of 7-10. But, they are 3-7 in their last 10 games and 3-9 against the West for the season. They did beat Dallas on the road after Dirk was injured, and they have beaten OKC and Houston in Toronto. But most of their wins have come against Detroit, Washington, and Cleveland.
With Tyreke listed as questionable after injuring his ankle against Denver, I think the Kings are going to have to push the tempo to get some easy baskets. And, when they have to go into the half-court game, their probably have to run the ball thru DeMarcus both inside and from the high post. Beno has had some good games with Tyreke out, both in scoring and in creating assists. We probably need him to do that again.
With Thompson following Bargnani away from the basket, DeMarcus should be able to use his size to dominate Johnson on the glass. Whether he’s able to do that just might determine the outcome of the game. I still have hopes that Tyreke feels well enough to play by game time, but if not it will be interesting to see if Taylor is as athletic as we’ve heard and if he can defend DeRozan. I had the Raptors on my lists of teams we will sweep this season, and I see no reason to change my mind. It’s a 10 am PST game, so set your VCR’s if you’re planning to sleep late, because I don’t think you’re going to want to miss this one. GO KINGS!!
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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I don’t know man, the Raptors seem to have a bunch of very nice complimentary players and have some youth that at one time or another caught my fancy. Wright and Johnson from what they were heralded for two years ago seem like a tandem that could just run around and constantly cause damage, Derozan is hyper-athleticism to a tee but he comes with good attitude, and Bayless is the kind of point guard that is always a threat for a big play, albeit he struggles to make the little ones.
The unfortunate truth of Toronto is that, regardless of Chris Bosh, for them to be relevant they needed Calderon to be Nash and Bargnani to be Dirk . That’s not going to happen, no matter how good those guys are – they’re not franchise cornerstones. And in this day and age, it takes two or three cornerstones to make a contender. Bosh fled because he saw what everyone else saw: that as built, this team was destined for year after year of mid-playoff contention. The type of shakeup needed to assuage that is unlikely and an extreme rarity (the new-look Celtics don’t happen every year). So, Toronto has an identity crisis, and yeah they look terrible. But people don’t realize how much potential talent is already there. It’s not far-fetched for two successful high draft picks and some smart cap utilization could return the team to relevance post-haste. Much like the Kings lost a star Power-Forward then moved onwards looking for identity, the current Raptors are stuck in a similar rut of figuring out which gems are worth keeping or which players have to be sacrificed for the greater good. Maybe Calderon is lost for expirings to that Hawks team, maybe Bargnani is booed out of town to allow a new young high pick to assume control of the team, and maybe DeRozan and Wright end up battling each other for their NBA careers. It’s an interesting situation the Raptors find themselves, and hopefully Colangelo can put some magic together, because I would like to see how they progress.
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I like DeRozan but Tyreke has a better outside shot then he does and that’s not saying much. If Demar didn’t get to the Foul LIne so much he’d probably never score in double figures. As for Wright, he’s a SF that can’t score outside of 10ft, and can’t even challenge Kleiza for minutes.
Now, Amir is a player I really like. If you read my piece on Bigs and assisted baskets, you probably already know that he’s one of the few non-allstars that is able to create and finish at a high percentage on his own. But, this is already his 6th year in the league, and I’m not so sure that their is that much ceiling to his career.
As I said, I think the Raptors have a strong backcourt with DeRozan, Bayless and Calderon, but with Bargnani at Center you have troubles. Maybe he would be better at the PF like Dirk, but until they get another big man they’re screwed. Because as I pointed out, they give up the highest number of Made Baskets inside then any team in the NBA.
They have some talent, but even the talent they do have isn’t complete. Everyone of their potential stars have a whole in their game. And, some of those wholes are enormous.
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Nice work once again HT
I went to that Raptors game at ARCO (the home opener) and the first half was all Toronto. They ran over, under and through the Kings – Warriors East style. Reggie Evans was huge with his Rodman like performance and was the difference maker. Somehow, someway, the Kings pulled out the victory and I am still not sure how.
With Evans out – I mean Reggie – the Kings should outrebound and low post this team ceaselessly. On paper, the Raptors are Taylor made for a Kings win – but so was the Warriors game for StR III.
With Evans out – Tyreke – the only shot blocker of note is Amir Johnson. He is very foul prone (I would love to see a SWAT v Johnson match up) and others on the Kings should slash often in his stead. On paper, the Raptors are Taylor made for a Kings win – but so was the last game against PHX (oh wait, the Kings pulled that one out)
by betweentheeyes on Jan 8, 2011 11:41 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I see what your doing here with that 'Taylor Made', very clever ;)
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by section214 on Jan 9, 2011 9:41 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We have a real shot at a road win
if we show up early, energetic – and pound it inside – even with the wings.
Let’s do it!
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If Tyreke is out
DMC must be on his game, and at least one from the Beno-Cisco-Omri troika must have a good game.
Not letting Bargnani explode for 30 points is another key to winning this game.
We know that nothing will come easy – at least I hope the players know that – but this is a winable game.
Dunking Dutchman - betting that Omri will have at least 12 games with 85% TS% this season.
My final thoughts on the game
Well we did play at a faster pace, 100 possessions to be exact. We only shot 57% inside of 10ft slightly lower than Toronto’s defense normally allows (60%). But, we did score 20 baskets at the rim which is 6 more than average, and we did it without Tyreke. But, Toronto did outscore us by 3 baskets inside 10 ft, Actually, they had a higher shooting percentage from every range. And, while we won the offensive glass they won the defensive end.
We ended up with 6 fewer turnovers and 6 more offensive rebounds, and we did push the ball ending up with 30 fastbreak points to their 19. And, the 3pt shooting was pretty even. DeMarcus did well, but not as well as I thought he could be against that competition.
If you followed my ‘Bigs vs Asst Rate" post, here’s the story of this game.
The Kings shot 65% at the rim and Toronto shot 75%. Carl, JT and DMC shot 14-19 at the rim, all shooting over 70%, but they did it on only 3 assisted baskets. Bargnani, Dorsey and Johnson were 7-8 for 88% on 4 assisted baskets. Granted their guards were 13-18 with 7 assisted baskets, so our defense at the rim was a bigger contributor to our loss than our offense at the rim. But, we did lose by 6pts, so 1 easy assisted basket each by our bigs would have give us a better chance.
But, in the end it was our bigs failure to come out and help defend the high screen, and the lack of any kind of interior help to stop guard penetration to the rim that lost this game.
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