NBA Lockout: Do, There Is No Try

by Tom Ziller on Oct 9, 2011 3:14 PM PDT in Commentary

The commish and players' union officials will meet Sunday to try to hammer out an NBA lockout at the absolute last minute. If there isn't a deal by Monday, David Stern has said he will cancel the first two weeks of the regular season, which would lop off the Kings' first season-opening home game since 2003, nix Omri Casspi's return to Sacramento and kill a visit from the Lakers.

If there is a deal, we can expect one of the biggest free agent periods since 1998 to begin for the Kings within roughly a week or two. We aren't exactly sure what Geoff Petrie will be chasing or how much he'll be allowed to spend in free agency or on the trade market. But the team has the flexibility with talent and cap space to really mix it up.

There's also the matter of, you know, $4 billion in league revenue at stake. Small matters worthy of a pissing match, I'm sure.

What do you think? Will we get a deal?

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Will the league and players' union reach a deal by Monday?

Yes

179 votes

No

448 votes

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I've become more and more jaded as this lockout has continued

I originally thought there was no way it would even get to this point. I was wrong. The logical thing would be for them to come to a decision on BRI today and not cancel games, especially since the difference in BRI is worth as much as they’ll lose in a month.

Therefore I voted no, they will not come to a decision, because logic need not apply here.

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by Aykis16 on Oct 9, 2011 3:17 PM PDT reply actions

If I had the choice to help Greece out of bankruptcy

or end the NBA lockout tonight, I’d probably pick the latter.

But I voted “no”. The sides look too far apart. If we have a deal tonight, it would probably mean that the owners have really panicked. I can’t see the players taking many steps back.

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by ZenBaller on Oct 9, 2011 3:23 PM PDT reply actions

I see them coming to a deal in the near future, but not by tomorrow...

The 2 sides aren’t close enough yet. It will take a while longer, but there WILL be a season.

by vikinginferno on Oct 9, 2011 3:53 PM PDT reply actions

It's now or a wait a long time

I think if they cancel two weeks of games, there won’t be talks for awhile. I see a 51-49 split on revenues between the players and the owners settling it.

The players and the owners would be foolish if this doesn’t go through. I see a concession by the players on years of contract, age of entry for the draft to 20 and an amnesty clause allowing each team to waive a player off their salary cap… aka. the Gilbert Arenas rule.

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by kingme18 on Oct 9, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions

I really hope the lockout ends...

but I voted “no.” Is the BRI the only thing left to settle, or did they just get stuck on that point and there are still more things to discuss?

by Subcon on Oct 9, 2011 3:57 PM PDT reply actions

Completely.

Given. Up.

by yokosolo on Oct 9, 2011 4:08 PM PDT reply actions

I think it'll finally happen

Like Aykis said, the percentage gap is equal to the same amount of money they’d lose if they lose a month of games. I know the NBA is full of bad businessmen but they can’t be this stupid. Plus, Jeannie Buss is there. People listen to Jeannie Buss for some reason

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by vfettke on Oct 9, 2011 4:10 PM PDT reply actions

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by SierraSpartan on Oct 10, 2011 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions

And she looks a lot hotter when she's the only girl in the room.

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by caseycheesecake on Oct 10, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions

She has a terrible taste in men though.

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by Aykis16 on Oct 10, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions

She must love the taste of Zen

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by section214 on Oct 10, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions

By the Numbers

The Basketball Related Income (“BRI”) they want to split is about four billion, right? If they cancel 2 weeks of the season, around 5 to six games would be lost, per team. This would make the season 75 games long. That means 6% of the season would be lost (.06 = 5/82).

If you take 6% of the season lost “times” the total revenue expected, you get 240 million. At a 50-50 split that is 120 million for each side.

The players want 53% of the BRI, and the owners want to pay them 50%. This is a 120 million dollar difference between the sides, as reported.

I guess we can conclude that one way or another, the owners are not going to give the players that extra 120 million this season. Of course, if they agree to a 53-47 split after two weeks, the players will make it up over the contract.

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by kwill on Oct 9, 2011 4:14 PM PDT reply actions

That's more math than I like to do on a Sunday, but well said.

by adamsite on Oct 9, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

You also have to understand that there is a power struggle going on. It's more than the amount of money.

by vikinginferno on Oct 9, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions

I understand and agree

Also, know that he who controls the money has the power.

/ Wondering if I should change my signature

by kwill on Oct 9, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Yes

and It will be 51 for the players, 49 for the owners

by DougChristieKO on Oct 9, 2011 4:42 PM PDT reply actions

This is what I think happens

51-49 with maybe on three levels on the super luxury tax instead of 4.

The players are going to start losing too much money if this goes south. I think there has been a lot of hard posturing here, but now is when the deal gets done.

One the other hand if they can’t get it done on time, I would fear we really could lose the season, because then both sides are valuing things like pride more than just money. That’s when this becomes scary.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Oct 9, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions

@WojYahooNBA

As labor meeting unfolds in NY, several NBA execs have hope of deal in next 24-48 hours. Why? They don’t have faith in players holding line.

by Da-King on Oct 9, 2011 4:53 PM PDT via mobile reply actions

I don't think they

will get a deal done by Monday. But I don’t think they’ll miss the whole season, either. I have a feeling maybe 10 games will be missed, and that’s it.

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by Dub_TC on Oct 9, 2011 7:02 PM PDT reply actions

and

totally unrelated, but this is the feeling I get when I think about this lockout

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by Dub_TC on Oct 9, 2011 7:03 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs

How did you gain access to Billy Hunter's war room?

by SPTSJUNKIE on Oct 9, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Voted no

I have zero faith for either party to do the right thing for the NBA, rather than their own particular side.

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by Mike Garza on Oct 9, 2011 7:39 PM PDT reply actions

Wow

I’m surprised by how many hopeless optimistic votes there were. Call me a downer but i’d bet my ass there won’t be a deal by tomorrow and the whole season is going to be dashed.

by SoCal Diplomat on Oct 9, 2011 8:20 PM PDT reply actions

Exactly how big is your ass?

Just trying to gauge the size of your bet.

I agree with your "ass"essment, but I’m still hoping for the best.

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by section214 on Oct 9, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions

No way the whole season will be lost, but I'm not hopeful that they'll have a deal in time to save the home opener.

by Kfan in Korea on Oct 9, 2011 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Pretty much my feeling

I think 2 months cancelled tops

I like that, and I like Kings basketball.

by CLopez63 on Oct 9, 2011 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Let's just count it as a forfeight from the other team.

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by caseycheesecake on Oct 10, 2011 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions

Meeting is still going, 5 hours so far

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by Aykis16 on Oct 9, 2011 8:42 PM PDT reply actions

That's a good sign

by Kfan in Korea on Oct 9, 2011 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Yep it sure is

I’m hoping for the best as well but without my hopes up. It’ll be a longshot but miraculous things have happened in this league. Oh and my ass is pretty normal in terms of size but still it’s very important to me.

by SoCal Diplomat on Oct 9, 2011 10:23 PM PDT reply actions