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24Q: Will the Kings Use Their Amnesty Clause?

Today a rumor came out that the Kings would use their Amnesty Clause on Francisco Garcia if they signed Jamal Crawford, in order to make room. This didn't make sense on a few levels (neither does signing Jamal Crawford, but that's just me), and Jason Jones recently confirmed my suspicions by tweeting that the Kings had no plans to amnesty Garcia, and I for one, trust the Sacramento Kings beat writer over a reporter in Portland.

But will the Kings ever choose to use their amnesty clause? We know the amnesty clause can only be used on players and contracts in place as of July 1st, 2011 and can be used prior to any season through the length of the CBA. For the Kings, the only two guys that stand out as possible amnesty candidates are Francisco Garcia (3 years, $18.3 million) and John Salmons (4 years, $31.2 million). Both of those deals are essentially for one year less than that, since Garcia has a team option and Salmons' last year is only $1,000,000 guaranteed.

Of the two, Salmons is the better player, but seems to me to be the likelier amnesty candidate due to his larger contract and age. But remember, using the amnesty clause means you still have to pay the player, the contract just comes off the salary cap. I don't think the Maloofs would want to pay a player $8,000,000 + for a couple years for a player to not play for them (although they did with Kenny Thomas *Rimshot*), unless they really needed to clear room to sign a player of a much higher caliber.

So I don't see the Kings using the amnesty clause, not unless something comes along that is much better, or Salmons or Garcia suffer career-ending injuries or seriously regress. That's just my opinion. What's yours?

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Will the Kings ever use their Amnesty Clause? And on who?
No
380 votes
Yes, on Garcia
207 votes
Yes, on Salmons
219 votes

806 votes | Poll has closed

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by bench_blob on Dec 14, 2011 2:48 PM PST reply actions  

you guys are ridiculous

you’ll be mad if a team like the Blazers, or God forbid, the Lakers were to add him to their team.

by Ninja King on Dec 14, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Personally, I think he should go to the Blazers and have a chance to average 20+ points a game for a playoff team. If he came to the kings, I think he would be similar to Gortat on the Magic. Gortat is the man, but it wastes his talents if he is stuck behind Howard.

The Blazers have a huge hole to fill with Roy retiring and Crawford should thrive there.

by SharkKings49 on Dec 14, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

I think Crawford fits in very well with the blazers.

by wildcard530 on Dec 14, 2011 3:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Yea, I agree that he's a good fit with Portland

But I think Kings are gonna be better. Portland always has the injury problem. Now Roy is done, Oden is missing another year, & Aldridge just had a heart procedure. I’d rather go to the team that has no injury problems and has incredible depth. This is going to be a winning team this year, especially if he joins it. Portland would be a good situation, but I don’t see them being better than the Kings. He gets more money to come to a better team.

by Ninja King on Dec 14, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the Kings only take amnesty if they sign both Kirilenko and Crawford

And if it comes down to dollars, it would be Salmons, as Garcia’s deal is really only guaranteed for two years at $12m and change. But if it’s a function of pulling the amnesty trigger to make contracts fit, I suppose it could come down to Garcia.

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by section214 on Dec 14, 2011 2:51 PM PST reply actions  

Voted yes, on Salmons

Mostly wishful thinking. Sorry, John.

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by Exhibit G on Dec 14, 2011 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

Salmons is better than Garcia

As long as his shot selection is good, he’s very good to have on the court for both ends of the floor

by Ninja King on Dec 14, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Garcia is on a smaller deal

And is a leader in the locker room. I’d rather keep him. Specifically, I hope we acquire a small forward who makes Salmons expendable.

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by Exhibit G on Dec 14, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Salmons is better than Garcia

But his contract is worse: 3 yrs. @ $24m vs. 2 yrs. @ $12m.

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by section214 on Dec 14, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Who cares

Salmons is better and makes this team better than Garcia. The difference between their contracts is 1 extra year and only $2mil more per season. That’s fine on a team with so much cap room. Salmons is a good player and any team would take him over Garcia any day of the week.

by Ninja King on Dec 14, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, my bet is that the Malindas care about an extra $12m

That extra year for Salmons coincides with Evans’ qualifying offer year, so that money could be a pretty big deal. And if the notion is that you have relegated both of these guys further down the bench as a result of signing Crawford and Kirilenko, it makes no sense to tie up that future money for no reason.

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by section214 on Dec 14, 2011 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Comparing these two makes no sense

Beno was a very effective (54% adjusted FG%) two point shooter that occasionally ventured out to three point range. Crawford is a less effective (49% adjusted) shooter who fires a lot more from 3. Neither player gets props for defense.

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by section214 on Dec 14, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Also,

Beno had a 47% assist to shot taken percentage, compared to 27% for Crawford.

Apples and oranges.

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by section214 on Dec 14, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

You mean we can't lump all poor defenders in to one category and make parallel comparisons about their overall quality as a basketball player based solely on their poor defense?

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by sac_faithful on Dec 14, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Otis, you are so right

he takes tons of shots, misses most, shoots again. Low efficiency poster

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by Bluejohn on Dec 15, 2011 12:09 AM PST up reply actions  

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by kwill on Dec 14, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

It makes perfect sense

Beno was efficient while Crawford was not. Beno couldn’t play defense but at least he did something. Crawford adds nothing but high volume shooting.

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by Josh L on Dec 14, 2011 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

i put Garcia

but i dont really see them using it as things look now but if they do i think it would def be garcia. most overpaid player on our team. (i think everyone can agree with that)

by yaboyrafa on Dec 14, 2011 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

Garcia if either

Don’t see them getting a stud SF any time soon. Salmons is an updgrade over Garcia. Personally think neither of those two though.

by wallywagon11 on Dec 14, 2011 3:08 PM PST reply actions  

I voted yes on Salmons

but not this year or probably next.

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by lietothegirls on Dec 14, 2011 3:12 PM PST reply actions  

We don't have any albatross contracts

Necessity will determine if anyone gets amnestied. We would have to get an upgrade at SF and need the cap room to boot for anything to happen. As long as we are below the luxury tax everyone is staying on the team.

Furthermore, we need the depth. This will be an interesting year for mid level players because I foresee them getting a bit more playing time this year in order to give starters proper rest. It will also bump up role players stats for free agency next year so buyers beware.

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by sac_faithful on Dec 14, 2011 3:50 PM PST reply actions  

I don't think the Kings will use amnesty on John

not just because I like him, but because of what I read on Cowbell Kingdom "Coach Paul Westphal on who is having the best camp so far: "I would say that Marcus Thornton had a terrific scrimmage last night and John Salmons has been excellent all the time. I think our rookies are adjusting really well and looking comfortable. I would say probably the two guys on top of their games or close to mid-season form as they can be are John (Salmons) and Marcus (Thornton)."

by JohnSalmons19 on Dec 14, 2011 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

I'm no Salmons hater - but he is still our top amnesty candidate

He is a big upgrade at SF and consistent, and a good guy. And, the coach likes him. (Maybe too much… but that might be a coaching problem, right?)

But the Kings will use the amnesty clause on Salmons in two scenarios:

1) Andrei Kirilenko if he came would obviously start, and with other options (including a three-guard lineup with big guards like Tyreke and perhaps Crawford) you can see us doing both the financially reasonable thing, and the classy thing to let a player of Salmons’ quality and age find some minutes elsewhere.

2) In 2012 – remember the amnesty clause can be pulled out next season, and it is expected to be a significant free agent year.

I don’t see Franciso’s contract as terribly bad, nor as enough to blow the amnesty clause on. Bench depth matters, and he comes off the books around the time we need to re-up with young potential stars. And, he is a glue guy on the court, the locker room, the community and ownership values him for all of the above. I see Franciso with us for many years.

by stalbaum on Dec 14, 2011 4:14 PM PST reply actions  

I voted for Salmons

It probably won’t be this year, but there are a lot of attractive FA’s next year and he is the highest paid guy on our team. Salmons is a better all around player, but Garcia seems to be more of a glue guy. I just wish his defense was as good as Salmons, because Garcia fits perfectly on offense by standing on the 3pt line and stroking 3’s.

by elSAVinator on Dec 14, 2011 4:32 PM PST reply actions  

Regarding Kings using amnesty

Having not read comments yet here’s a few thoughts. Wouldn’t surprise me if they used the amnesty. The Maloof’s are gamblers and the Kings are all they have left. They’ll go all in to the best of their ability financially. Time to bring the excitement back to the arena. I like how they are loading up the roster instead of just 1 big signing. That’s a good strategy in this shortened year. Also gives them a lot of flexibility to trade in future. That’s where there is probably a better opportunity than in this free agent class. Like the moves they’ve made and that they look like they can and will run. Won’t be much time for this team to develop into an effective half court offensive team.

by kurtis22 on Dec 14, 2011 5:55 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Voted Garcia

Just due to his contract. If next year the option comes along to trade for a legit starter making good money, I can see the team cutting Garcia in the last year of his contract to stay closer to the cap.

I don’t see them cutting Salmons for two reasons. First, he’d still get paid and I don’t see the Kings paying him to not play for them. Second, and whether people like it or not, coaching staff and front office REALLY like John Salmons. Tough to get over, I know… but it’s the obvious truth. Unless his production on the court really is terrible, this won’t change.

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by edm7 on Dec 14, 2011 6:11 PM PST reply actions  

Only reason i could see Salmons over Garcia is the fact that more teams would pick a up a larger % of Salmons contract then Garcia’s, which in the end could save the Maloofs more money

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by Widowwolf on Dec 14, 2011 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Didn't I read somewhere that part of the new CBA allows teams to restructure a player's contract like in the NFL?

I wonder if Garcia would be a candidate for something like this as opposed to a straight amnesty. The team obviously values Garcia for a number of reasons, but probably not to the full extent of his paycheck. He’s a bit overpaid, but at this point there are only a couple of years left on his deal and really not a significant amount of money. I could see a lot of teams interested in grabbing him off of the waiver wire, but at a very low bid. Similarly, I could see a lot of teams, including the Kings, very interested in adding/keeping Garcia on their team after his current contract is up, though at a much lower salary.

I’m not totally sure how a contract restructuring would work or all of the pros/cons for Garcia and the team, but there’s something about Garcia’s value now and moving forward in his career that makes me feel like he might be content to take a pay cut now for a longer, lower contract. It would essentially be Cisco recognizing the fact that he’s probably never going to have a chance to earn another big contract on the Kings or on any team, and the value of most of his remaining career is pretty well set (and it’s set well below his current annual pay).

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by AnotherStupidSN on Dec 15, 2011 8:30 AM PST reply actions  

Jamal Crawford

I too am puzzled by the Kings interest in Jamal Crawford. While understanding he is a proven offensive weapon, it seems like our interest would have ended when we re-signed Thorton. The only thing I can think of is that the move would be part of another move the team is trying to make for an upgrade at the 3 or 5 spot.
I still wouldn’t mind seeing Sammy D. protecting the rim and allowing DeMarcus to play the 4 on occasion.
I am also a bit suprised that Westphal has named Hayes the starting 4 so soon. Would it not be better to have it be earned in camp. Hickson and Thompson should be given the chance to compete for that spot. Again, I am glad to have Hayes, but we have more and that decision made so early sends a message to both of those guys that is not positive.
Looking forward to seeing all of them in action soon. Go Kings!!

by finsdad on Dec 15, 2011 9:45 AM PST reply actions  

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