So Crazy It Just Might Work
by Tom Ziller on Dec 2, 2011 10:24 AM PST
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PrintNew Orleans Hornets point guard Chris Paul "reached out" to Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard in order to encourage him "to find a way for the two to play together," reports Marc Spears of Yahoo! Sports, citing sources.
Via the electric mind of one Aykis16:
1st Trade: New Orleans is probably more pliable to a trade, especially if the rumors of Chris Paul demanding a trade to New York are true. New York has no assets that New Orleans would want. New Orleans would be pretty much the same if they let Paul walk instead of trading him to New York.
So Geoff decides it's time to strike and offers New Orleans a package deal for Paul: Tyreke Evans and J.J. Hickson for Paul. New Orleans gets the young potential (super)star to build around, and J.J. himself is oozing with potential as well. Not a bad start to rebuilding if I do say so myself.
2nd Trade: Right now Paul is probably pissed. He did not want to come to Sacramento, but he's all nice about it in the media, being politically correct. Privately, he's told the front office he likely won't seek an extension and is still trying to go to New York.
Petrie's not done yet. He calls Otis Smith. Orlando is going to want a little bit more. DeMarcus Cousins, Jimmer Fredette, and (a re-signed) Samuel Dalembert plus the earliest pick we can give them for Dwight Howard and Hedo Turkoglu. Otis can either take this offer or an offer from the Lakers to take Bynum and Gasol. He's worried about Bynum's knees though, and also, f*ck the Lakers. He decides to make the deal with Sacramento instead and hope DeMarcus Cousins thrives under Van Gundy and Jimmer is perfect for that system.
Boom. Now the Kings roster looks like this: Dwight, Jason Thompson, Hedo, Salmons and Paul starting, with a main bench rotation of Thornton, Cisco, Chuck Hayes (who we signed) and Isaiah Thomas. Kings will probably need to fill out some more space.
Now Paul and Howard are together and they start having fun without realizing it by being together. The main lineup is made up of solid veterans, and together with Paul and Howard the team advances to the NBA Finals against the Heat, and win in 7 games. Dwight and Paul announce during the victory parade that they are re-signing for 5 more years, and the newest, greatest basketball dynasty starts in Sactown.
Plan the parade, y'all.
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To insane
Can’t possibly work, No no no no no (can’t get my hopes up)
by LightningStrike5 on Dec 2, 2011 10:26 AM PST reply actions
what the heck?
We aren’t even sure the team will be in Sacramento past the end of this season. What do we have to lose?
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Love it Aykis.
But for Paul and Howard to be pulling this is such crap… Unless it’s in our favor!
by Sincere P. on Dec 2, 2011 10:31 AM PST via mobile reply actions
No shooters in the front court - forget it!
:-)
"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
- Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower
Honestly
trading more than Evans for Paul and Cousins for Howard would be a mistake, unless they signed extensions first. We’d need the additional assets like Hickson and Jimmer to get a 3rd star, or to fill out what we have. For example, could Hickson or JT help you get somewhere on maybe an Iguodala type?
Further, getting potential future all stars in Evans/Cousins would be plenty nice for NO and ORL.
by LPKingsFan on Dec 2, 2011 10:35 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Rec for treating my feverish delusions as an actual proposal.
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Hey, it IS actually crazy enough to work
I don’t know if we’re (the Kings) capable of thinking so far out of the box though. Asfar as LPKF’s comment, I agree I’m not sure what better offer either would get, we should try to keep at least one of those extra assets (Jimmer!)
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by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Not sure trading players for other players like this is out of the box
I mean, I am sure Petrie dreams about scenarios like this every night.
Having it happen is a much different story :)
I wonder how many GMs use the Trade Machine to brainstorm lol
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You don't mention Hedo on the roster
Amnesty?
"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
- Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower
by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Yes I do, starting at SF
Alternatively, start Salmons and Thornton and bring Hedo off the bench.
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I'd still probably amnesty him!
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by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Can't.
Full understanding of the rule hasn’t been explained, but word is that you can’t trade for a player and then amnesty him. You can only amnesty players that are currently on your roster.
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It's not clear yet as you said
many are reading it as ‘under current contract’
we’ll see
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by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
That's the only way you can read it
But word from reporters is that the official language will be structured to prevent it from being used via trades, which I think kinda sucks for teams that don’t have any bad contracts currently, like the Thunder for example.
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Hmmm, we'll see
I think teams will push for it to be tradable, on the list for today’s/tomorrows agenda I’m sure
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by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
How can I delete that? (I wish we could)
He’s there of course.
"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
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by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
Ahhh delusions of grandeur...
Such is the life of a Kings fan. Thanks for making me dream TOO BIG Aykis!! The season will be a bust for me now when this doesnt get done!! ;)
With our luck,
we’d wind up with Moe Howard and Mrs. Paul. Slapstick and fishsticks for everyone!
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by section214 on Dec 2, 2011 10:52 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
Mrs. Paul's Fish Sticks
Does yours?
(sorry, my favorite joke as a kid)
by betweentheeyes on Dec 2, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
What has four wheels and flies?
A garbage truck!
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by section214 on Dec 2, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
A nickle and a dime rolled across a bridge
The nickle fell off, the dime didn’t. Why?
The dime had more cents(sense).
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2011 6:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
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by kwill on Dec 2, 2011 8:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
What did the boy melon say to the girl melon?
Sorry, Honeydew, but I cantaloupe.
by wallywagon11 on Dec 2, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Wishful thinking but...
With all the collusion going on lately between players on where to sign, why don’t they both just refuse trades and extensions, then sign with the Kings next year? If Sac doesn’t use up its space this year, max them both in 2012 and keep Cousins and Tyreke. (I have no idea how to resign them both when their rookie contracts are up, but hey – this is likely as anything else (to say not much). Now THAT would be one heck of a lineup… Too bad NO and Orlando aren’t dumb enough to let them walk for nothing.
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My scenario is probably more likely
than either Paul or Howard signing in Sacramento of their own free will.
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Once they were together on one team
It would be almost impossible for them to leave and go to another team together. Who next year will have cap room for both with the new requirement to be at 85% by the end of the year? It’s possible – but would be tough.
"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
- Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower
by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Trade Thornton,Hickson,Jimmer
and 2014 1st round pick for CP3. then tell Paul we’re going after Dwight in free agency next year.
Our Starting 5 in 12-13
Paul
Evans
Salmons
Cousins
Howard
6th man Thompson
this is a Dynasty
by rekehavoc13jimmer7 on Dec 2, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Tyreke would have to go
I just don’t think he can play off the ball for any stretch of minutes.
And they’d demand a potential Star anyway. Besides, the scenario where they were already on the same team might lock it up, that’s the point.
"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
- Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower
by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
doesnt work
If Thornton last year at the deadline they wouldn’t have traded him to us. To get Paul or Howard, Kings would have to trade Cousins or Paul.
You can bet your bottom dollar Geoff Petrie has asked what it took to get those stars or he isn’t doing his job.
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by kingme18 on Dec 2, 2011 5:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Dwight and CP3 won't get to see this in NY or LA
by CrownedPotential on Dec 2, 2011 11:02 AM PST reply actions 7 recs
Hey,
let’s not go splitting hares.
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by section214 on Dec 2, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions 7 recs
I actually like that thing
and don’t understand the problem.
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- Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower
by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I love that thing
It’s awesome
by LightningStrike5 on Dec 2, 2011 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty cool
as long as it’s not an anatomically correct male rabbit.
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Made my first trip through the new terminal last week
the architecture is nice looking, but what pita to get around that cavernous space without much signage.
Where's my pie
by TheFifthMookie on Dec 2, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Hoopsworld
If anyone looks at Hoopsworld.com, their publisher is named Steve Kyler. He does a weekly chat. A Kings fan wrote in and asked abt the KIngs for the upcoming year and I thought Kyler’s response was interesting, especially abt Petrie…:
Shawn
Hey Steve , im very excited the NBA is back. Im a kings fan , and was wondering your thoughts on them this season. I think they are one(good)player & Coach away from being a playoff team.
Steve Kyler
Maybe… they need a lot of guys to grow up fast, but they have a ton of talent… I think its more coaching and management than anything else.
Geoff Petrie is just as much of the problem as Paul Westphal.
You think Kyler has some special info we don't?
Not saying he is wrong, just saying this isn’t terribly interesting
by wallywagon11 on Dec 2, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
There are only two national scribes I would pay any attention to regarding Kings news
Our very own TZ, and Sam Amick.
Everyone else doesn’t know shit usually, and tends to make generalizations. Few actually spend a lot of time watching the Kings.
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by Aykis16 on Dec 2, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Exactly
In Kyler’s determination a number of losing years in a row equals bad GM. He knows nothing of the Kings internal strategy.
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Don't Agree
I can’t think of another GM in sports who has had a run of bad years like Petrie and kept his job.
fire westfall and petry
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Hard to imagine many more GMs doing better in his situation
Owners that couldn’t accept window was closed. And then decided to spend as little money as technically possible.
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by Shizzo on Dec 2, 2011 9:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
why not look at the trades the Kings have made recently.
If that doesn’t reveal their strategy I don’t know what will.
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by kingme18 on Dec 2, 2011 5:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm good i got faith in my Kings
Let’s see this can also be what happens then REKE becomes an all star who’s better then Paul, BIG CUZ becomes an all star and even better then Howard with more to his game then just rebounds and dunks. Sac doesnt get a championship because they traded all their players including JJ, Jimmer and Sammy come on mane wheres the faith at, ya giving up on Tyreke after his 2nd season that was bothered by injuries, and Cousins after his 1st damn, I like Howard I like Paul their both great at what they do but i just have a feeling that tho we MIGHT not get a ship this year I say might cause I have to stay optimistic, but we will be a surprise team this year I give a F**k what anybody says and these players will live up to their potential. KING S**T ya can go be fans of howard and paul on whatever team they lebron, wade and bosh to. ya still my bois though i may not write much on here but I’m always on this site keepin up with my team, I just had to sign in this time cause I’m gettin tired of the REKE & CUZ put downs cause they got game & i have a feeling they’re gonna be better then ever give them a chance they’re older this year more experience. On another note glad the lock out is over gonna start writting on here more hopefully ya don’t hate me already ha. GO KINGS!
Small hint: If you put paragraphs in your post it makes it way easier to read. Maybe like this:
Let’s see this can also be what happens then REKE becomes an all star who’s better then Paul, BIG CUZ becomes an all star and even better then Howard with more to his game then just rebounds and dunks.
Sac doesnt get a championship because they traded all their players including JJ, Jimmer and Sammy come on mane wheres the faith at, ya giving up on Tyreke after his 2nd season that was bothered by injuries, and Cousins after his 1st damn,
I like Howard I like Paul their both great at what they do but i just have a feeling that tho we MIGHT not get a ship this year I say might cause I have to stay optimistic, but we will be a surprise team this year I give a F**k what anybody says and these players will live up to their potential.
KING S**T ya can go be fans of howard and paul on whatever team they lebron, wade and bosh to. ya still my bois though i may not write much on here but I’m always on this site keepin up with my team, I just had to sign in this time cause I’m gettin tired of the REKE & CUZ put downs cause they got game & i have a feeling they’re gonna be better then ever give them a chance
they’re older this year more experience. On another note glad the lock out is over gonna start writting on here more hopefully ya don’t hate me already ha. GO KINGS!
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
The writing is fine.
You get a little lazy with caps at times which also makes it harder to read, but the writing itself reads like a person speaking. Which is perfect.
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2011 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
Welcome.
If you click the “reply” button at the bottom of someone’s post your reply will be indented underneath that one. Makes it much easier to follow multiple conversations.
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by Jaycee on Dec 2, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I know I'm biased
But I honestly believe Reke is more valuable than CP3. I also wonder how many more peak years CP3 has left in him, as he will most likely need another knee surgery in the future (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/354816-knee-issues-could-potentially-hinder-future-of-nba-all-star-paul).
Yes, you're biased
CP3 is probably a future Hall of Famer
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by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
How do we know Reke wont be a future hall of famer?
We tend to forget he averaged 20-5-5 in his rookie season, one of only four players in NBA history. The risk of CP3 having knee problems in a few years is too much to trade away a young potential superstar IMO. And yes, I have grown attached to our players and would find it more rewarding to watch them grow into another Kings dynasty than have CP3 (maybe) lead us to the finals for the next 3 years.
by amack10 on Dec 2, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Plantar fasciitis has just as much chance to linger as a knee injury
if not more…and a knee injury is more treatable.
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I put a link up above
They removed part of CP3’s meniscus, which is likely to cause “partial bone-on-bone grinding” in his knee. That doesn’t sound so good to me. Regardless of the injuries, I think there is a good chance that Reke will be the better player in two or three years time.
Yup Tyreke WILL be a better player then him but not 2 or 3 years from now but NEXT year
by SOUTH_SAC_KING on Dec 2, 2011 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I do Wally or at least that's what I'm hoping for, don't hate stay optimistic with me bro damn
by SOUTH_SAC_KING on Dec 2, 2011 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
Not hating
I just have a hard time seeing Tyreke pull off something near a Per 36 minute 18 points, 9.7 assists (2.4 turnovers), 4.5 rebounds, and 2.3 steals off of a 57% TSP (I used career numbers not last year).
I feel you those are GREAT career stats I'm not taking anything away from Paul
Just saying that’s fine and all but he has the potential to be as good or better then Paul. To me the only person who can stop him from doing it is himself, he’s his own enemy can’t no point guard stop him. If he wants it bad enough this year he can do it, and his assists could have been higher, but lets be real he didnt have much help you need players to finish off your assists to get an assist right.
This year it looks like he’s going to have a lot of help on the offensive end I look to him to show his play making skills, as healthy as he looks he will draw that double team so who’s it going to be JIMMER? THORNTON? COUSINS? SALMONS? JJ? JT? SAMMY DOWN LOW? GARCIA for 3? maybe DONTE shows up? Come on that’s a lot of options who do you stick as a defender or do you not double team and let REKE finish, S**T is endless mane. I’m just saying other teams need to watch out.
by SOUTH_SAC_KING on Dec 2, 2011 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
Well pretty sure Paul has shown he can be good or better than Tyreke and the only person stopping Paul is himself, and Paul is his own worst enemy can't no point guard stop him.
Furthermore, Tyreke’s assists haven’t suffered from teammates. There is nothing out there to indicate players were missing shots or not where Tyreke wanted them to be to make a better shot.
There is also nothing to prove they haven't fu***d assists up but aight wally
Like I said Paul is the better man now, & if ya want him then ya can have him and i will root for him cause I’m a King fan til I die! I just hope Tyreke comes back stronger and better then ever I don’t think that 20-5-5 was fluke on a team with NO KIND OF HELP! Like most people do but like I said ya got your opinion I got mine I think he’s going to have a better season then that rookie season and I hope he’s hungry enough to get it.
by SOUTH_SAC_KING on Dec 2, 2011 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
I like you.
It’s nice to have fresh optimism.
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by caseycheesecake on Dec 2, 2011 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks, I mean we have WAY TOO MUCH talent on this team to not be optimistic I don't care what anybody says I'm stickin with these guys
Remember what everybody was saying the last lockout, “Oh the KINGS ain’t S**T”, “those trades were alright but they aren’t going nowhere” blah, blah, blah and what happened? Also “Oh the rookie Jason Williams ain’t doing nothing” yet he became one of the most popular players in the nba. I’m going for the same result this year, doubt it if you want but I BELIEVE, I’m just sayin though, anyway ya have a goodnight dream of Paul & Dwight. Talk to ya tommorrow.
by SOUTH_SAC_KING on Dec 3, 2011 12:28 AM PST up reply actions
I'd give it a few years
CP3 is amazing at the PG position and is without a doubt the better player at present. But there’s things that Reke can do that Chris Paul can’t because of his size (defensively and getting to the rim). Reke is a walking mismatch. And is there any other 6’6’’ guy in the league with his handles? He just needs the experience and needs to stay healthy. I’m hopeful that his jumpshot will improve as well. He won’t match Chris Paul in the assist category; I think we’ve all realized that Reke is not a point guard. I just think if we made this trade, there’s a chance we’d be regretting it down the line.
Chris Paul has turned into Kevin Johnson 2.0 already and doesn't need a size mismatch
don’t get me wrong, not disagreeing with the injury stuff with Chris Paul (don’t really know about it) and certaintly think it’s pointless to talk about trading for him given I doubt he’d resign here. That being said, if I had to bet on one guy career wise, I think I know who I would be betting on.
never denied Paul is the better man as of right now
There’s a lot of players who showed up the next season though and became all stars cause they had it in them and Tyreke has it and with help, I mean nothing better then when you can have confidence in your teammates right? Most on here and other sites seem to say he can’t be that man, I remember after that rookie season everybody was on his Nu**s am I right? The only reason why he fell off those talks is because of his drop in numbers and efficiency last season. Tyreke is a slasher hopefully a shooter this year too but last year the ankle and foot injuries hurt his game that’s all i have to say, it’s coo if ya disagree we’ll see who’s right this season and hopefully he makes ya eat crow I’m sure ya are hoping to get a big plate of crow too, or are ya hoping for a Tyreke CP3 trade cause you will be regreting it sooner or later. Of course that’s my opinion mane.
by SOUTH_SAC_KING on Dec 2, 2011 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
Stick with the roster we already have
The Kings roster is shaping up very nicely. There is no reason for us to trade our young guys for Paul & Howard. Yes, it would be amazing to see those 2 stars playing for the Kings, but the Kings can be a contender in a 2 years if this squad is kept together and the right piece or 2 are added to the mix.
Although it was a HUGE mistake to pass on Kemba Walker for Jimmer (& I love Jimmer), we still have a gem in Jimmer, added to a backcourt where he will play with both Evans & Thornton(if re-signed). With these 3 players (all 3 will be on the floor together at times), it is arguable that the Kings have one of the best backcourts in the league, and we can expect solid & unselfish ball movement to precede many 3’s, as well as mid-range jumpers. Our guards are gonna be raining jumpers all the time. We these guards, the floor will also open up a lot, which will allow our bigs more space inside to work with. We’re not gonna see Cousins face many double teams, unless teams are willing to leave shooters like Jimmer & Thornton open.
Cousins will soon be one of the most dominant bigs in the league. Fans should expect to see many games from Cousins like what we saw him do to Bynum down in LA. Once Cousins learns to control his emotions & not let the refs get under his skin, he will not get into foul trouble as often, and will be on the floor for more of the game, which is what we need from him. Cousins is going to be a dominant player. We are lucky to have him on our team and should do whatever we can to make him a King for life, along with Tyreke.
Remember folks, we have the youngest team in the league. Imagine Cousins in 3 years. BEAST!! Get the ideas of trading our gems out of your heads please. If the Kings franchise see’s that the fans don’t want to see these players traded, then there will be a greater chance of these guys being kept. While the Kings have made many brilliant moves in the past to acquire some great players, they have also made idiotic decisions as well, and we have paid for it by seeing those players blossom for other teams (G.Wallace/Turkoglu/Barnes, just to name a few). The last thing they need to do now is trade away our top young talent. It has taken us years to get to where were at now. The team decided to build through the draft, and we got some outstanding players by doing so. Now let’s keep them together & watch them grow together.
A city like Sacramento is not the ideal place for NBA players to come to. It doesn’t help to attract players to come here in free agency if they always see the team trading everyone away, which is what the Kings always do. If the Kings show loyalty & consistency to go along with building another winning product, the team & city become much more attractive & respectable.
Once we figure out who is the big man who we acquire through free agency, whether ends up being Dalembert re-signing or the signing of a difference free agent Big, then we will see that big added to our mix of bigs (Cousins, Hickson, Thompson, Whiteside). I personally hope to see Whiteside get minutes this season. He is going to be a shot blocking machine, and will snatch many boards as well. He will get into foul trouble early on, but it is better if he gain experience on the courtsooner rather than later. Keeping him sheltered on the bench only hurts his growth as a professional player. Whiteside is a gem. We got a steal in the 2nd round last year. Time to see him become a part of the rotation.
Now, here is the real deals the Kings should make NOW!!
The only player the Kings should try to acquire through a trade is Josh Smith. And if we gotta trade JT, Donte, & a 1st round pick to get him, then let’s do it asap!! We aren’t going to need any draft picks for a season or 2 anyway. Were already young & stacked. Acquire Josh Smith & then make a free agent splash, possibly signing Thaddeus Young. Throw his way a fat contract, he’s worth it. Add those 2 players to the mix, and we have a legitimate contender THIS SEASON. Kings would automatically become a top 5 Western Conference team.
I hope you guys like my ideas and I look forward to your comments.
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Heh. He has the paragraphs, but needed an extra enter to add a space. Here it is.
The Kings roster is shaping up very nicely. There is no reason for us to trade our young guys for Paul & Howard. Yes, it would be amazing to see those 2 stars playing for the Kings, but the Kings can be a contender in a 2 years if this squad is kept together and the right piece or 2 are added to the mix.
Although it was a HUGE mistake to pass on Kemba Walker for Jimmer (& I love Jimmer), we still have a gem in Jimmer, added to a backcourt where he will play with both Evans & Thornton(if re-signed). With these 3 players (all 3 will be on the floor together at times), it is arguable that the Kings have one of the best backcourts in the league, and we can expect solid & unselfish ball movement to precede many 3’s, as well as mid-range jumpers. Our guards are gonna be raining jumpers all the time. We these guards, the floor will also open up a lot, which will allow our bigs more space inside to work with. We’re not gonna see Cousins face many double teams, unless teams are willing to leave shooters like Jimmer & Thornton open.
Cousins will soon be one of the most dominant bigs in the league. Fans should expect to see many games from Cousins like what we saw him do to Bynum down in LA. Once Cousins learns to control his emotions & not let the refs get under his skin, he will not get into foul trouble as often, and will be on the floor for more of the game, which is what we need from him. Cousins is going to be a dominant player. We are lucky to have him on our team and should do whatever we can to make him a King for life, along with Tyreke.
Remember folks, we have the youngest team in the league. Imagine Cousins in 3 years. BEAST!! Get the ideas of trading our gems out of your heads please. If the Kings franchise see’s that the fans don’t want to see these players traded, then there will be a greater chance of these guys being kept. While the Kings have made many brilliant moves in the past to acquire some great players, they have also made idiotic decisions as well, and we have paid for it by seeing those players blossom for other teams (G.Wallace/Turkoglu/Barnes, just to name a few).
The last thing they need to do now is trade away our top young talent. It has taken us years to get to where were at now. The team decided to build through the draft, and we got some outstanding players by doing so. Now let’s keep them together & watch them grow together.
A city like Sacramento is not the ideal place for NBA players to come to. It doesn’t help to attract players to come here in free agency if they always see the team trading everyone away, which is what the Kings always do. If the Kings show loyalty & consistency to go along with building another winning product, the team & city become much more attractive & respectable.
Once we figure out who is the big man who we acquire through free agency, whether ends up being Dalembert re-signing or the signing of a difference free agent Big, then we will see that big added to our mix of bigs (Cousins, Hickson, Thompson, Whiteside). I personally hope to see Whiteside get minutes this season. He is going to be a shot blocking machine, and will snatch many boards as well. He will get into foul trouble early on, but it is better if he gain experience on the courtsooner rather than later. Keeping him sheltered on the bench only hurts his growth as a professional player. Whiteside is a gem. We got a steal in the 2nd round last year. Time to see him become a part of the rotation.
Now, here is the real deals the Kings should make NOW!!
The only player the Kings should try to acquire through a trade is Josh Smith. And if we gotta trade JT, Donte, & a 1st round pick to get him, then let’s do it asap!! We aren’t going to need any draft picks for a season or 2 anyway. Were already young & stacked. Acquire Josh Smith & then make a free agent splash, possibly signing Thaddeus Young. Throw his way a fat contract, he’s worth it. Add those 2 players to the mix, and we have a legitimate contender THIS SEASON. Kings would automatically become a top 5 Western Conference team.
I hope you guys like my ideas and I look forward to your comments.
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Not 'the youngest team in the league'
bot even 2nd or 3rd – but young
"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
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by lietothegirls on Dec 2, 2011 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
LoL
Sorry I didn’t do the extra spaces. Didn’t know it’d be necessary. Just created an account the other day. I read this website daily, so I felt it was time to get my voice heard on here. I hope to influence my fellow Kings fans with my ideas. Yes, this is my hope lol. None of you know me but I’m a lifelong Kings fan born & raised right here in the 916.
Ninja King
NP, takes a while to get used to all the bells and whistles.
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 2, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
And the pookeys.
Even though the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas!
by LeaguePassAddict on Dec 5, 2011 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind if he was GM for both Orlando & NO too.
GMAykisORL: What? Dwight Howard for John Salmons and lint? Tell him CP3 is coming? You got yourself a deal.
GMAykisNO: What? Chris Paul for Francisco Garcia and mint? What flavor? Mmm, sweet. Oh, and tell him Dwight Howard is coming? Cool, you’ve got yourself a deal.
GMAykisSAC: Hey, bitches, we got Dwight Howard & Chris Paul. Build the damn arena!
This.
by elfboy_ on Dec 3, 2011 6:53 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It may sound awesome
but I’m sentimental. I want to believe in our players and see them grow into stars, leading us to the playoffs. Even if that means never winning a championship.
Bleeding Black and Purple 6710 miles South East of Sacramento.
Absolutely ridiculous
Chris Paul and Dwight Howard are great players, but I wouldn’t break up our current roster of future stars for anybody just add in some key veterans and its a matter time before this group gels and become one of the elite teams in the league. It may take another year or two but when they do it’s going to be exciting.
by ceja1971 on Dec 2, 2011 12:56 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely agree
This team has the talent to go to the top. Just need to add the right piece or 2. Then we’re set. Gotta keep our young core no matter what. Evans, Thornton, Cousins, & Jimmer all need to be tagged “untradeable.” Whiteside as well. He got game!! Just needs to mature & get PT. Even if he’s not a starter, he’s gonna be a great backup.
Ninja King
Dwight Howard is one of my favorite NBA players
Even though he’s never learned to shoot. But I think we all want to see what the young Kings can become. It would be awesome to see Reke eventually eclipse a not-so-young Chris Paul. I know Whiteside’s supposed to be “not ready.” but every time I see a post saying “Well we need to re-sign Dalembert for his shotblocking” I do wonder when Whiteside will be ready.
But good job breaking down that filibuster Kfan.
Kemba is a Champion
The same thing Jordan had within him, Kemba has as well. He’s a perfect all-around point guard. He has no weaknesses, and is a very good defender. He will be an all-star in the NBA for years, and I have no doubt he can be an NBA Champion as well. I love Jimmer but I’ll always be sad Kemba isn’t on the Kings.
Ninja King
Yeah I was kind of leaning towards Kemba
He is smallish but I love watching CP3 or Nash run an offense.
If you love watching CP3 & Nash..
then you’re gonna love watching Kemba in the league. He is the total package. Call me crazy but I’d take him over both of those guys right now, although I might not be showing enough respect for CP3. But I believe in Kemba!!
Ninja King
Question(s):
1) Is Kemba going to be better than Tyreke?
If so,
2) Why do you think Kemba would fit well with Tyreke?
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Dec 2, 2011 4:19 PM PST up reply actions
Answers
1) better?? It’s too soon to say. They’re both great in their own right. It’s not about who is better. They are 2 different players. Tyreke is 6’6", Kemba is 6’. Everyone says how Tyreke has to be a 2guard. Well, who better to run the point than a prototypical point guard who is excellent at fascilitating an offense, has fantastic speed and ball-handling skills, is unselfish with the ball, is an excellent shooter & passer, can get to the basket, and makes big plays when you need them. Everyone that saw how Kemba played in college can expect to see more of the same in the Pro’s. He’s a winner. He lives for the big moments as well and has proven to be clutch. And his winning attitude & leadership that he exhibited so well in college is exactly what this Kings team needed, and would have been provided with from day1. While Tyreke has fantastic skills and abilities, he needed a point guard like Kemba next to him. Just imagine Kemba on the floor with Thornton & Evans. But I know Jimmer is a stud and I hope he can give us what I’m talking about. I just consider Kemba to be a sure thing.
2) Kemba has the total package, and Tyreke as a 2 would have benefitted greatly from having a point guard of Kemba’s skill next to him. Would have instantly become the best backcourt in the league.
I hope these answers suffice, and I don’t want to beat a dead drum any longer. We have Jimmer and what is done is done. Although I consider Kemba to be better and am dissapointed he doesn’t wear black & purple, Jimmer is a baller and I look forward to seeing him play with our team. I hope he gets even better than what we’ve seen.
Ninja King
With all due respect,
they have been equally effective defenders during their respective NBA careers.
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by section214 on Dec 2, 2011 7:27 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Ninja King we're just getting the rookie treatment don't sweat it homie haha
just let Kemba prove himself, that’s why i shut up about Reke being BETTER then Paul next year, cause right now Paul wins hands down. When it happens though then come back and say “I TOLD YOU SO” I know I am cause it will happen. REKE FOR MVP! ROSE, CP3, WESTBROOK WHO???
by SOUTH_SAC_KING on Dec 3, 2011 12:45 AM PST up reply actions
Resepctfullt disagree
You’re not receiving the rookie treatment. Quite the opposite. Your opinions are being taken seriously, and other members are asking insight and clarification as to how you came about your opinion. Now, you have a 100% right to your opinion, and others have a right to ask how you formed your opinion.
Using Walker as an example, I had him higher on my draft list than Jimmer. I personally would have preferred Walker over Fredette. And if the opinion that Walker is a better defender is based on his performance vs. collegiate level talent, fair enough. We’ll have to wait and see what happens when both of these guys lace it up against the big boys.
And 1 – This is not an “I told you so” site. If your participation here is predicated on the notion that you are going to throw a lot of things against the wall and then proclaim “I told you so!” when something sticks, this probably is not going to be the right place for you in the long term. That said, welcome aboard!
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I'm not hyping Kemba I was just talking to Ninja King about what he said I'm good with Jimmer
I’m not going to get all into it section, but I’m not a kid anymore so I’m really not going to come back and say I told you so if it does stick. Just using it as an expression of 1 of us is going to be wrong and 1 of us is going to be right about Tyreke and that’s it nothing else, & I’m hoping just like I’m sure you guys as King fans are hoping that I’m right. I wasn’t saying I’m here just to tell people they’re wrong though everybody has their opinion, I don’t knock that.
With all do respect this is a public site so weather ya like me or not I’ll at least be here keeping up with my team like i have been, anyway thanks for the welcome hope nobody feels offended by anything I said. There’s no Laker fans here so I’ll keep it coo, don’t mean no disrespect, GO KINGS!
by SOUTH_SAC_KING on Dec 3, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Aight section
You win, and actually if i don’t want to write a comment but still look at the Kings news like i said up top I still can without being a member, so that would make it a public site right? Unless I want to interact, Just sayin. Thanks for the warm welcome you have a nice day bruh.
by SOUTH_SAC_KING on Dec 3, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
About the rookie treatment too it was a joke I was just bullsh***in
by SOUTH_SAC_KING on Dec 3, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
Commas and periods are your friends.
Just say’n.
"We're like Tim Duncan and David Robinson. But a younger version. I really feel that." - Charlie Villanueva about himself and Chris Bosh.
It makes it easier to follow your upbeat, enthusiastic comments.
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Dont be hatin fascist.
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by Kfan in Korea on Dec 4, 2011 3:47 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Aight we get it
You guys are writting teachers fine, but i understood everything he said so just stop complaining it might be cause i write the same way oh well. Good comment Ninja King I’m with you all the way mane. I want to see what this young and TALENTED team can do. About whiteside I’m also with you on that he’s put on alot of muscle looking like Howard himself, and I think he can be a defensive monster I hope they give him some playing time this year.
For sure
I met Whiteside on draft day this year and dude is all muscle. I don’t see how he can be anything less than a good NBA player. Nobody should expect him to average 20 points or anything like that, but we’re never gonna know for sure what he can do until he see’s floor time, and I don’t mean just garbage minutes. I mean put him in during the 1st half. He needs to become a part of our rotation. He’s gonna be better than people think. He has a good jumpshot to go along with everything else he brings
Ninja King
The reply button. Use it.
Otherwise your comment just appears at the bottom and we have to figure out who you’re talking to. No one here wants to make anyone feel self-conscious about the way they write, we’re just trying to help you to be taken more seriously and to communicate in a way that shares your ideas more effectively.
A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...
You'll notice my post was not a reply to you, but to SSK.
If you click the “up” button on a post, it will show you which comment it is a reply to.
A lonely Kings fan in a sea of gold and purple...
I know ya are trying to help
just saying I understood it you know, and well like i said I make mistakes and am not much of a writter. Just doing it the best I can you know, I’m here to talk Kings basketball not to get spellchecked haha it’s a joke, don’t take it too serious. I can’t fight my fellow Kings fans especially 1 that is reppin for us over in FAKER LAND. Thanks for the tip on the REPLY BUTTON didnt really pay attention to it at 1st
by SOUTH_SAC_KING on Dec 2, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
The writing can improve - the content and the passion are just fine they way they are.
same goes to Ninja King. Nice to have two more solid Kings fans to join in the fun.
by betweentheeyes on Dec 2, 2011 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I know it needs to improve I'm trying, but thanks for the welcome I've been around reading just haven't said much.
by SOUTH_SAC_KING on Dec 3, 2011 12:38 AM PST up reply actions
I got you Wally, I'm not sweating it by the way i always liked that Jimmer pic with the hat or sombrero
though Jimmers arent my thing I’m a woman lover myself ha
by SOUTH_SAC_KING on Dec 2, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly
I see alot of potential in him mane I really want to see him get some minutes in the game I don’t want him to be a wasted talent that once he leaves the Kings just explodes, & we’ve seen that happen as Kings fans. Am I right Kings fans?
YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT!!
My heart can’t take seeing anymore young talent being given away by the Kings anymore. Honestly, because we have Whiteside, I do feel that throwing a huge contract at a center right now wouldn’t be the right move. We’re already stacked with bigs. Now, if Marc Gasol or Nene wanna be on the Kings, then you sign them. But I doubt Sac is their 1st choice, unfortunately. Whiteside is a Center last time I checked, and if we delay on signing a Center, then we save money while getting to watch our all of our young bigs develope and turn into what they will become, instead of giving them to someone else & watching them blossom there instead of here. This Kings fan doesn’t wanna see that.
And I’m gonna repeat what I stated earlier, Josh Smith & Thaddeus Young should be the Kings main targets right now.
Ninja King
They're both 3/4s.
We have plenty of 4s already. So why would we want 2 more SFs?
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Dec 2, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
They're both versatile, & solid defenders
They both can play both 3 & 4. They are both also better than any 3 that we have on our roster. To get Smith, I’m sure we’d have to give up JT, which I would do in a heartbeat for Smith, regardless of how much I actually think JT is a solid role player for us. Smith alone makes us a better team. Think about how solid our D would be. Our rebounding, as good as it already is, would get even better on both ends of the floor. We’d automatically become a much stronger team as well, and fear would be struck into the hearts of our opponents. And I tell you now, that if we don’t push for Smith, someone else will and they will reap the benefits of his excellent all-around play. Smith is a huge reason the Hawks have been any good over the past few years. Even tho he is well-known, he is undervalued & underappreciated. Other than his outside shooting, he does everything great. Everything.
Ninja King
If I were Petrie...
I’d make each offer with Tyreke and Cousins plus picks only. Then you’re trading PG for PG and C for C, plus picks and cap space to sell the deal. To sell these guys on signing extensiosn, they’d need a competitive roster. No real need for draft picks for the next 4-5 years with you replaced Tyreke and Cousins with CP# and Superman. Free agents would be lined up to play for that potential juggernaut.
YEAH I"M TIRED OF THAT S**T
I also feel that other then MT23 and trying to get Dally back or trying to get Nene, Gasol, or Chandler who is only a lil better then Dally cause he doesn’t try to act like he can shoot the ball, oh and getting to the cap those 17 mil, then we should wait til next season when a better free agent class is up for the bidding. Give Whiteside some playing time I’m starting a movement called “PLAY WHITESIDE”.
As for Young good small forward and Smith a good PF I like them both and they sound good for this team I also like Thompson though. Then I hope Greene can get his act together and take over at SF, he has the talent but can he finally earn his playing time, I mean 6’11 athletic SF come on why is he wasting his career, STEP IT UP GREENE!!!! He has all the tools but will he ever use them.
IamPurple your right we would be a potential juggernaut and free agents will want to come, players would want to get traded here. I guess I’m attached to Reke and Cuz I mean I just see how Cuz played against bigs and the flashes and games of greatness as a ROOKIE! Then Evans just bullies everybody gets by anybody, his slick moves lose & confuse ANYBODY, & I believe he can be a good playmaker and I just know that the alright season was all cause of the injuries. I just know this time next year nobody on this site is going to want to see him get traded.
Look at Rose 3rd year BOOM! Westbrook 3rd year BOOM! REKES 3rd year to be determined but i know he has it in him I think we won’t just see a boom but a NUCLEAR EXPLOSION WATCH!!!!
gotta hit that reply button
makes it really hard for others to understand what and who you are responding to.
Okay onto what you wrote :)
You have to understand that we have to spend up to the salary minimum this year. If the Kings don’t, there are some serious penalties.
Yeah I know
that’s why I’m saying Wally, other then getting Marcus back and getting up to the minimum then we might as well wait til next years free agency. Unless we can get 1 of those bigs.
by SOUTH_SAC_KING on Dec 2, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
THIS...would be bad a**.
CP3 + D12 + a new arena…OC What?!?!
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Dec 2, 2011 2:39 PM PST reply actions
This trade would definitely make the team better.
But watching them win with two future hall of famers wouldn’t be nearly as satisfying as winning with Reke and DMC.
I beg to differ.
Watching the Kings win at all would be very satisfying.
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by Aykis16 on Dec 2, 2011 3:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
I don't think there is anyway New Orleans makes this trade...
unless they are able to pick up some leadership.. Gonna have to include Cisco.
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by TrojanCBB on Dec 2, 2011 4:05 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
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