What about these guys?
If the two preseason games against the Dubs were any indication of how the team is going to play this season, we have ALOT of work to do. We turned the ball over frequently, we displayed porous defense, and we stood around and watched Tyreke dribble the ball and we had to get new guys acclimated to our team. Preseason games were meant to be sloppy, especially given the circumstances. We are likely to resign Samuel Dalembert to help with the defense but Paul Westphal continues to say that we need a veteran point guard. I know I am probably hearing cries like "that means Jimmer won’t get minutes!" or "We already have four guards!", but personally I believe we need a veteran guard who will slow us down when we need to, can knock down shots consistently, get guys in a position to score, limit turnovers, and could be a valuable contribution to a young team. I am not saying that our guards are incapable of doing these duties, I would rather them learn from a veteran point guard – even if it means limiting minutes just slightly. This veteran guard would not be inserted in the starting lineup, but play select minutes depending on the circumstance. I believe that you can never have too many good players on a team and it could actually help us in the long run because with such a tight schedule, you could actually rest players some nights.
The Kings were 26th (100.6) in offensive rating and 20th (106.3) in defensive rating last year. We shot 23rd in FG% (44.9%), 26th in 3FG% (33.5%) and 28th in FT% (73.5%). These aren’t great percentages for a team that is fighting for a playoff spot, but these numbers should improve slightly with the team we have this season. The statistic that killed us the most was turnovers. We were 2nd in the league in turnovers, giving the ball away about 15.6 times a game. I say this number goes down with a veteran point guard.
Here is a list of guards I think we should target:
(Career stats)
1. Andre Miller – PG – Denver Nuggets – 14ppg | 7.2 ast | 1.4 stl | 45.9% FG | 80.7% FT
Andre Miller would be a perfect fit for this team, especially because he has been a solid rotation player since he came into the league. He is a willing passer and a great rebounder for his position. He is a solid defender, holding opponents to 39% FG (5th in the league for starting PG’s) and only getting scored on 37% of the time (3rd in the league for starting PG’s). He is capable of playing both guard positions effectively, with his only downfall being three point shooting. He knows how to get the ball to players and doesn’t waste possessions. He could be a mentor / role player of sort for this team.
2. Luke Ridnour – PG – Minnesota Timberwolves – 9.7 ppg | 4.9 ast | 43% FG | 36% 3PG | 87% FT
Luke Ridnour would be a great fit for our team for what he brings. He is a decent scorer and a serviceable point guard that we desperately need. He actually is a good defender too, holding opponents to 39% shooting (8th for starting PG’s) and is scored on 39% of the time (11th). He would be in the same situation here as he is currently in Minnesota, so having him wouldn’t be a bad idea. If he managed to get him we know he would get good three point shooting, a guy capable of throwing dimes and a good free-throw shooter and defender. It might be good to note that statistically, Ridnour is actually a better defender then Chris Paul (without counting steals).
3. Mo Williams – PG – Los Angeles Clippers – 13.9 ppg | 5 ast | 44%FG | 39% 3PG | 87%FT
Mo Williams is in a tight spot, losing his rotation spot to Chris Paul, Chauncey Billups and Eric Bledsoe, so he could actually be available for us to take. He is a veteran point guard capable of scoring and finding teammates, with his only downfall being that he isn't a great defender. He is still a presence that he might need and he could accept a role as a guard off the bench.
Lastly, I know he isn't a guard, but what about trying to trade for Ryan Anderson? We could do a JT for Anderson swap and it could potentially help both teams. He could use a post like Anderson and Jason Thompson hasn’t worked out for us. Personally, I think Anderson is a better shooting Jason Thompson who only benefited/improved from playing with Dwight. Here is Ryan Anderson’s career stats.
Ryan Anderson – 8.6 ppg | 4.5 reb | 42% FG | 38% 3PG | 84% FT
Anderson, a Sacramento local who played for Oak Ridge High School, would be welcomed to the Kings with open arms. Since he’s been in Orlando he has improved greatly as a post defender and rebounder while maintaining his skills offensively. I think he’d be an upgrade over JT because he can space the floor, play solid defense, rebound and he will stay on the floor instead of falling into foul trouble.
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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I think a lot depends on how you see us using this guard
The turnovers are coming from Tyreke in the back court, not MT or Jimmer. So how are you suggesting we use this veteran PG? Do we start him instead of Evans? Pretty sure that’s not going to happen. Do we start him instead of MT and slide Evans over to the 2? Not unless the veteran PG is a great outside shooter and you are okay with bringing one of our highest paid players off the bench. With Evans and Salmons on the floor, you need someone to stretch the defense. What you are really looking at is someone to back up Evans. Jimmer is currently doing that and his numbers, both assists and shooting % have been pretty darn good so far.
So, great, bring in a backup PG. I’m not against it. But understand that is not going to fix your turnover problem in the back court. What’s going to fix that problem is either having Evans cut down his turnovers, or taking the ball out of his hands. A veteran PG is probably going to end up being the fourth guard off the bench.
It comes down to reality
And it's fine with me 'cause I've let it slide
Actually
If we have a veteran point guard it would limit turn overs, not keep them the same. If you have a guard that will distrubute the ball to guys like Jimmer, Reke and Thornton. Tyreke is NaPG for real. He forces the issue and creates turnovers. Our “point guard of the future” “future all-star” guard should dominate in preseason, not force the issue time and time again. How many times did he miss the open man in Jimmer? Plenty. That isnt going to change when the season starts. Tyreke is a better spot up shooter then when he creates his own jumpshot. A veteran point guard will give him the rock.
We need a bigman first and foremost, but obviously its evident we need a guard.
So you want a veteran point guard to get tyreke spot ups?
Sorry, but I don’t agree with this at all. The problem isn’t with players we don’t have. Its with tyreke who has not seemed to change his game a bit. We need tyreke to pass to the great shooters we already have. He still passes only as a last resort. He still runs into traffic with no plan. He still won’t pass on the fast break nearly often enough. His free throw percentage isn’t nearly high enough for someone who dominates the ball so much.
Some people were spinning his high TO numbers as evidence that he is looking for his teammates more often. I don’t see it that way. He doesn’t make the right pass, and he isn’t that accurate or clever of a passer.
I also don’t care for his demeanor, he acts like hes been sentenced to play in the nba.
I’m not really a huge tyreke evans fan.
by lchristmas on Dec 21, 2011 9:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
100% agree
However, the only thing thats cutting down evans to’s and ball pounding will be a seat on the bench. He is who he is, & thats what he does.
is he the centerpiece of a championship “blueprint”? I dont see it. is he willing to play a lesser role and actually distribute the ball? I’m not optimistic. I dont know if he could if he wanted to.
by lchristmas on Dec 21, 2011 9:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Tyreke
I see 3 options for Tyreke moving forward, now that he has weapons around him and he cant use the injury or youth as an excuse for slow development or regression. (Rose just won an MVP in his 3rd year).
1. Tyreke plays great while continuing his same style of dominating the ball and coming and going mentally on O and on D. Think his rookie year, but with some improvement and better teammates
2. Tyreke continues to play his same style, but doesnt play well. I cant imagine this could go on for long with Jimmer and MT and Cousins demanding touches. Think his 2nd season, but with great scorers being underused
3. Tyreke changes his game! With his skill set, the perfect blueprint for Tyrekes game should be Rajon Rondo. Rondo cant shoot, but he often dominates the ball looking for teammates, and only taking his shots in the paint, WHEN it is open. And Rondo takes pride in being the leader of the defense, which Tyreke has to do, and has all the ability to do it. 2 main differences, Tyreke is nowhere near Rondo mentally, but he has way more size working for him.
Im hoping for option #3
Agree
What we need is an all star sf that can shoot the 3 and play defense, and perhaps a center as an insurance policy against DMC or Hayes going down with an injury. We currently have 2 point guards on the team who are very good in Jimmer and Thomas, Id rather have Jimmer than anyone listed above.
Ryan Anderson however would be a fantastic pickup for the Kings, as I wrote last year before the trade deadline. He can shoot the 3, spread the floor and is a decent rebounder/defender which would make him an ideal pickup imho. The fact that he is from the sacto area is a bonus :) I also like Mat Barnes if we are talking local players that could help the Kings.
by PetrieFingSucks on Dec 23, 2011 8:20 AM PST up reply actions
Didn't we just trade away a veteran PG?
Unless we bring in a starting PG to run the offense, I don’t see where we have to make a move now just in case someone gets injured latter. So, that we don’t have to depend on a couple of rookies, who by the way don’t look too bad for rookies.
Right now our main need is probably a starting PF and maybe a starting SF. I’m going to have to see Salmons play some SF before I’m convinced that he’s not a 2, who like so many other players on this team, is playing out of position.
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by Scott Section 213 on Dec 25, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
Ryan, Ryan
From a viewer’s standpoint, i don’t think Orlando is ready to give up Anderson right now if the right offer doesn’t come in. He was a standout last year with the Magic, but i hope he will be with the team love the work attitude he has shown.
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You are right.
He had an excellent season, so we’d need trading pieces to wrestle him away. I think JT would fit especially is Dwight leaves next season.
We need a big man!!!!
No if’s and butt’s about it.but no one is left,even reggie evans got signed,so here we are.i am use to drama,we have alot to deal with.it is kinda funny a truck load of money and no takers!GO KINGS!!
by cowboyron96@yahoo.com on Dec 21, 2011 6:19 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
load of money in the truck
but driver is angry!
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by edm7 on Dec 21, 2011 6:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.... We need a Defensive minded big man 1st and foremost.
And yes, we just traded away a Veteran PG in Beno. Clearly they think Tyreke can run the point. Personally? I thought so too but I am beginning to rethink that after watching Tyreke in preseason. Yes, I know it is only preseason but a 3rd year, rookie of the year, “future all-star” should be dominating in preseason against the warriors with Curry or Ellis on him. To my surprise, Tyreke looks rather terrible. Sure he had 7 assists in the last game, but when you have the ball as much as he does with Marcus and Jimmer as your teammates ANYBODY could have 7 assists.
by ridingthebench on Dec 21, 2011 6:44 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
7TO's
Yeah i totally agree, 7 TO’s is too big for Tyreke’s capabilties, i think thrice he didn’t pass it to Jimmer. This season Jimmer will be left wide open more because most of our opponents will be lost in the transition. Give this guy the ball and you will see raining threes, that’s what Evans should do never force the issue, let the game come to him, try to kick out it to teammates. The way i see it the 2nd game, Jimmer is looking more composed than Tyreke, though he tried to drive to the hoops wherein he got sandwich badly.
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