Paul Westphal Leaned On New Toys In Kings Opener
Monday night's Kings win over the Lakers was the first opportunity to see how Paul Westphal would manage a fully healthy rotation. John Salmons and Chuck Hayes missed both preseason games, and DeMarcus Cousins and Travis Outlaw each played in just one. But on Monday, Westphal had everyone available. And with two-and-a-half exceptions, he relied almost entirely on the team's new acquisitions.
The Kings' active roster on Monday had five players who began 2010-11 with the team. Only two, Tyreke Evans and DeMarcus Cousins, played more than seven minutes. Jason Thompson spent seven total minutes up front, while Donte Greene came in for a few seconds at the end of the first half. Francisco Garcia dressed but didn't play.
Marcus Thornton is the other incumbent King winning minutes, as he did after the Kings picked him up last February. But the rest of minutes largely went to newcomers. John Salmons played 30 minutes and Travis Outlaw picked up 18; between those two and some smallball minutes with Evans and even Thornton at small forward, last season's threes were one possession from being shut out. Chuck Hayes played 27 minutes up front, Cousins had 25 and Hickson picked up 22; those three plus Thompson's nominal time and Outlaw's power forward spells accounted for all of that. Garcia couldn't get space in front of Evans, Thornton, Jimmer Fredette (26 minutes) or Isaiah Thomas (13).
Tyreke Evans is basically the only player acquired before the 2010 draft in the Kings rotation. That's pretty amazing.
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Smallball
I can’t say I was a fan of the extremely small lineup, but against everything pw stands for I hope he can just stick with a lineup for a while and let everyone get a chance to gel! We looked good last night tho. Here’s to another win in Portland tonight. The blazersedge has some nice things to say about us in his game preview
by Czar Nickoli on Dec 27, 2011 12:23 PM PST via Android app reply actions
The small lineup that had mt23 at small forward that is.
by Czar Nickoli on Dec 27, 2011 12:25 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
agreed...I would prefer to have Reke or Salmons at the SF in those small ball lineups
Not Thornton. That Jimmer and IT backcourt should have been exploited. Bad move by the Lakers there.
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Westphal's rotations
last night seemed less jarring/frequent/random than in seasons past. Instead of reacting to the other team’s substitutions or single fouls, he set up the Kings with their own effective lineups that the Lakers had to react to.
Overall, I really didn’t notice Westphal’s substitution pattern except when he pulled DMC after the technical. I think last year a lot of his substitutions were “let’s see if this works” substitutions or to pull a guy who wasn’t hitting shots and occurred really often and sometimes at times that I disagreed with (e.g. take out a guy who is hot for a “better” player). I like how he let guys play.
by DirtyDribblers on Dec 27, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
JT was going to come in for Hickson...
…after JJ took a jumper from the top of the key early in the shot clock on a possession sometime in the 2nd quarter, I believe it was. PW called JT up off the bench immediately, but a timeout happened before the substitution, which allowed PW to let JJ know these aren’t the droids he’s looking for instead.
by #12Pick...who? on Dec 27, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
I remember that and he
got an offensive rebound right before the TO which kinda redeemed himself from that earlier ill advised shot.
Small sample size.
We shall see if it continues.
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It helped
that Westphal finally had guys out there who would play consistently well. Every body gets on him for the lineups, but he kept changing them because whoever he put out there just could not play consistently, whether it was quarter to quarter or game to game. We finally have a little bit of the consistency and depth.
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Not ready
To say Outlaw, Salmons, JJ, Isaiah even Jimmer are consistent. It does seem PW is ready to abandon Donte and Cisco, however, because it took all of one practice for Outlaw to leap frog them in the rotation. It will be interesting to see how they react if they get buried at end of bench.
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I believe only about 4 minutes Outlaw was on the court were at the 3
the majority of the minutes went to Salmons and Tyreke, although on Defense Salmons was defending the 2 mostly. I didn’t think we’d see much of him defending WBF.
And, anyone who didn’t expect PW to play his veterans even though they haven’t had much time to practice, doesn’t know much about PW’s history.
I totally expect PW to go searching on the bench for someone to help when Outlaw or JJ are having a bad game. It probably won’t be Hassan who didn’t dress. But, I don’t think that JT, Donte or Garcia can not expect to see some decent minutes in upcoming games with or without injuries.
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by HighTops on Dec 27, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Come on guys...
This ia Westphal. Garcia and Donte will see 30 minutes tonight and Outlaw will be a DNP-CD.
by Sacramental on Dec 27, 2011 3:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
Veterans gonna veteran...wait, what?
I think someone like Cisco is probably the best suited to adhere to the mantra of “be prepared for when your name gets called”.
by #12Pick...who? on Dec 27, 2011 12:27 PM PST reply actions
Yep -
Ty Corbin and Corliss Williamson excelled in this role.
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I do miss Cisco's minutes. I love his timely corner three and his ability to block shots and play the passing lanes
Cisco will get minutes, its just a matter of when and who gets injured first(which will likely be cisco in practice).
by Smills9133 on Dec 27, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Cisco's blocks come from behind after he gets beaten off the dribble
at both the SF and SG spots. I applaud the effort, but I’m not impressed by his inability to stay in front of his man. And unfortunately, over the last 5 seasons, Cisco hasn’t averaged more than 1.4 made 3’s per game. Which from my viewpoint, doesn’t offset the less than stellar defense. Granted he was a better choice last season than Donte. But, Omri had a better shooting percentage then Cisco from 3pt range, and where’s he at now.
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Scoring 2 points on 2 FT’s and having a couple assists. On 21 minutes.
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Tyreke just wanted a kiss, Barnes going all Colorado Kobe on him…
by ahgraham on Dec 27, 2011 12:38 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
Matt Barnes might be the dirtiest player in the NBA today
He’s a total douchebag and has at least 1 borderline to actual flagrant foul in almost every game if not at least some sort of cheap shot on another player. He had one last night that didn’t get called and a couple that did(like the ft rebound by cousins where Barnes just tried to clear him out of the lane like an offensive lineman would on a run block).
by Smills9133 on Dec 27, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 7 recs
Suh would be proud of that block
and probably say he wasn’t dirty he just lost his balance
Totally agree
His shove of Blake Griffin in that second preseason game was appalling. He is a classless scumbag.
Totally agree.
Even the MT23 play where he elbow’d him in the face going for the lose ball. I mean, come on. He freaking flexed his arm to hit him in the face.
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by Jim Les on Dec 27, 2011 5:43 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm interested in tonight
Will PW’s rotations bear any resemblance to what we see against the Lakers? That will be very telling. Recall that Darnell Jackson was getting 20+ minutes per game last November.
One thing I do like is that the Kings are now a team that can beat the Lakers while asking nothing of Donté, JT, or Garcia. Those used to be guys we relied on in order to have a chance against LA. They may not be all-stars, but the Kings are a far deeper team than they have been for the last few seasons.
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LMA doesn't post up much
which is Chuck’s obvious strength on D. It will be interesting to see the matchups.
If you get LMA or Wallace in any foul trouble at all – Portland is in trouble.
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by lietothegirls on Dec 27, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
If you notice
Chuck can guard the perimeter as well too, he has some really, really good lateral quickness. He got switched onto Kobe a couple times and did a good job staying in front of him while help came.
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Here's that instance Tom from the Dream Shake was talking about
where Chuck stopped Paul Pierce http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbRZZLD48B4
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I didn't
We’ll have a lot of opportunities to see whether that works tonight against LMA and Wallace.
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by lietothegirls on Dec 27, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
It will be interesting
especially because Portland will probably play a few small ball lineups with Gerald at the 4 and Lamarcus at the 5.
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Which will be bad news for Chuck and Cousins.
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by caseycheesecake on Dec 27, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
Hmmm, thought I posted this comment but -
I hadn’t noticed Chuck on the perimeter yet. I’ll have a lot of chances tonight against LMA and Wallace!
This is a night though where we just need to control those guys and where our guards should try to run a team off the floor.
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by lietothegirls on Dec 27, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
I did notice that.
I was at the game and watching Chuck closely with my opera glasses from row ZZ. I hadn’t seen much of Chuck before his signing, so I was curious to see if his D lived up to this hype. I definitely liked his post defense, and was impressed with what I saw from him on the perimeter.
Good move by westphal too
play the best players available please!! hickson>thompson, and jimmer,outlaw,thornton,salmons > garcia
Now are the jitters out for Jimmer
Jimmer looked very hesitant to shoot last night (I imagine nerves were quite a part of that). Tonight let’s see if he’ll spot up and shoot rather than take every shot off the dribble.
Just guessing
I think he’s trying to do it the “right” way. He could probably fire up 25 footers, since he’s such a great shooter, but he understands that his role on this team is to facilitate the offense a bit and spot up for the open look while he learns the NBA game.
Strangely enough, last night answered more of my questions on Jimmer than a great shooting, poor defensive performance would have.
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I agree he needs to facilitate but last night there was one play at the top of the key where the ball swung to him and he had about 6 ft of open day light and he put the ball on the floor and tried to penetrate. That 3 pt shot should be his bread and butter and with space that should be an automatic fire for any guard in the NBA.
He had some VERY nice passes last night
A couple were finished a couple weren’t. His defense was passable, not anything spectacular, but what was to be expected. His shot looks effortless. I think nerves contributed to being short in the 2nd half on a couple very makeable jumpers he took(although one led to that NASTY putback by Cousins). He made a couple errors with the ball – both times can be attributed to leaving his feet without having made a decision(the first play and the charge in the 2nd half vs. Flopper).
Other than that, he played a very intelligent game and really didn’t force much. I expect a better outing tonight as he got that first game under his belt.
Agree
Jimmer is going for 20 points tonight.
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That's what I think,
push our guard advantage against tired legs! He’ll be in the teens for sure I’d guess.
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by lietothegirls on Dec 27, 2011 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
you mean 40
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Dec 27, 2011 1:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I meant 20 points per quarter
you mean 80.
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by bench_blob on Dec 27, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought you meant 20 per minute.
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by DTG13 on Dec 27, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
lol
The scorekeeper already put 20 points in Jimmer’s column to save time.
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by bench_blob on Dec 27, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Let's be real here Blob.
Assuming he plays for 24 min.
24×20 = 480 points!
Realistically, he’d average around 465ppg – which is pretty decent for a Rookie “Jimmer.”
:D
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by DTG13 on Dec 27, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I am always one for level-headed, unbias objective analysis
Therefore I fully endorse this view.
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by bench_blob on Dec 27, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm glad you understand.
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by DTG13 on Dec 27, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Bunch of depressing people here
Everyone acts like Jimmer is a one-dimensional player that only focuses on his scoring. Totally ignoring his assist totals. What’s wrong with you people?!?!
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by iashwash on Dec 27, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No worries.
I just didn’t include it.
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That is amazing
Tyreke Evans is basically the only player acquired before the 2010 draft in the Kings rotation. That’s pretty amazing.
Finally, PW has a real NBA team to coach. I hope the haters give him a chance. I know the owners will, and bet his contract is extended well before the season is over.
fire westfal...rise the jimmer
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Dude, if you can't even spell "Westphal" 's name correctly...
You have no valuable opinion of this coach, or this team.
by Marcus Newton on Dec 27, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
kwill has been around quite awhile
And you have no place to tell him what value his opinions are worth
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Dec 27, 2011 1:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
That's right.
Besides, my wife says they’re not worth sh*t anyways.
/feeling like a mushroom right now: kept in the dark and sh*t on
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Feel free
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by TheFifthMookie on Dec 27, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
Luckily
we’ll get to see the whole team rise together
That's what she said.
I really just had to…
… I apologize.
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by DTG13 on Dec 27, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Loved it when Fishers face fouled Treke's knee!!!
Last night the team looked good.. They played hard and a little more uptempo! Liked it.
by Sincere P. on Dec 27, 2011 1:09 PM PST via mobile reply actions
i'm sick of the nba's bias against the L@ke Show
/silverscreenandroll’d
The Hilton sisters think that L*&%$ fan is spoiled. It’s really funny.
This is the type of team that Westphal tried to make from the beginning of his tenure
That is why we saw Desmond Mason and Luther Head. He has upgrades in the form of John Salmons and Chuck Hayes and Travis Outlaw.
I hope and expect to see smarter Kings basketball which should lead to better Kings basketball.
Rotations are gonna be weird this season for every team
All the back to backs (and back to back to backs), 4 games in 5 nights, etc. Teams are gonna have to dredge their bench if they don’t want to fatigue their starters.
Two of Portland's guys played 40 minutes plus last night
LMA and W Mathews. Me likey.
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by lietothegirls on Dec 27, 2011 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
We'll see
Without a real training camp, many players still aren’t in basketball shape. The second night of a back to back could look ugly for alot of teams even at this point in the season.
Everyone is going to look tired in a day or two
and LMA barely practiced – had any camp at all. That’s when a lot of guards who can get open and score should be a benefit.
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by lietothegirls on Dec 27, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
I feel bad for Cisco
not so much for Donte. JT will get more minutes.
I do hope that PW rolls out those 10 man rotations (ones that make sense please) every night. I think it will really pay off right away and especially as the season goes on.
I think the longer guys get more play tonight against the length of LMA and Wallace.
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Agreed
I hated the Isaiah, Jimmer, Thornton, Hayes, Outlaw line-up. Maybe against the Whoriers….but no one else please.
I would think that last night's rotation minutes were the result of success: getting a lead, keeping a lead, then regaining the lead and maintaining that edge
The lead inched up and he kept the The Jimmer and It’s IT in until the Lakers schooled the group in there (not just those two). He inserted the veterans and left Cisco out because he put the starters back in to finish the 4th.
Had Outlaw done particularly poorly or Salmons blown the Kobe assignment (he did well you have to admit) I think Garcia would have seen some minutes. Then again, maybe not – Coach’s Decision.
I think we will see Garcia off the bench tonight for some spot of time.
by betweentheeyes on Dec 27, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
Very interested to see how this 1st road game goes
for Hickson, Jimmer and Cousins, who were all under a lot of pressure in front of the home crowd to meet or change expectations. Most of that should be off tonight.
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by lietothegirls on Dec 27, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Would you guys consider a Cisco/Greene for Jamison deal
to supplement our frontcourt and to clear out an extra 6-8 million next year off the cap? It’d also free Cisco to get some burn in Cleveland and revive the Donte/Casspi debate vicariously through the Cavs. I think it’s a win-win-win for everyone involved.
Sure
Would the Cavs do it though? Why?
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by lietothegirls on Dec 27, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Jamison is a class act and dependable player who is on the downside of his career. The Cavs would be dumb to trade him.
For Kings leftovers you get a starter? Not likely
by betweentheeyes on Dec 27, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
I could see them trading him for some young assets
to someone or other but . . .
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by lietothegirls on Dec 27, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
I think the cavs would be open to the idea....
but probably want more than anyone will give up for him. They can actually use his vet presence to teach their rookie PF for a year. Overpriced yes, but still a quality big man that can knock down the 3 and a decent passer.
by PetrieFingSucks on Dec 27, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Still 12 more days to land AK47.
Then we can look at Plan B like this one.
"The Spurs subliment their statistics for the good of the team" Kings Coach PW.
While I'd certainly like the Kings to acquire AK
You’ve got to wonder what the hell our rotations are gonna look like if we pick him up. Either he or salmons is going to come off the bench and you’ve also got to wonder a little bit about paying either of those guys 8 million plus a year to come off the bench. Not to mention the inevitable grousing/sulking. Those guys haven’t reacted well to coming off the bench in the past.
The best players will play.
It won’t take long to figure it out.
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by caseycheesecake on Dec 27, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
Omri had 2 in his first start for the Cavs :P
Im not sure any team in the league would take Cisco and Green together, or seperatly for that matter. Cisco is a serviceable vet, but his contract is not in line with his skill, not his fault hes being overpaid, but he could be a rotation player for a team lacking at the SG pos.
by PetrieFingSucks on Dec 27, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
Rotations are definately unique
I love the idea of substituting a new player in and forcing the other team to match, we have so many players with different strengths that it forces the opponent to constantly refocus on who is playing where and how to guard.
Also I wouldn’t be surprised considering depth of this team if outlaw plays more minutes some games than salmons, etc. Of course the season has to unfold but the oppotunity to limit key players to 25-30 min a night over this season will prove beneficial even if we are young.
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by corpse916 on Dec 27, 2011 1:47 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I hope the defense continues to play well.
Hayes is a great communicator on the floor. Especially at the defensive end. Some players make others better on the offensive end (Nash/Kidd come to mind), but Chuck makes his teammates better on the defensive end. It was great to see.
Ba-da
I'll repeat what I said on the other thread
I don’t think Cousins learned much from Sammy last year, Chuck will teach him how to use everything he has. Chuck will make him better sooner.
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by lietothegirls on Dec 27, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He didn't learn much from Sammy because Sammy is a player who has relied on his...
athletic ability his whole career and is not a very smart player.
by Ultrakingsfan on Dec 27, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I know, but thanks for clarifying for anyone else ;p
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by lietothegirls on Dec 27, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Add 4 inches to Chuck Hayes and he looks more like DeMarcus
SammyD and DMC are the same height but play an entirely different game.
Not saying Dalembert could not teach young Cuz in the finer points of the NBA but The Chuckwagon has skills that DMC can emulate (quick feet, soft hands, a non vertical game).
by betweentheeyes on Dec 27, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Not only helping DMC, but everyone else too.
Loved how he was encouraging Jimmer to draw the offense to him so he could take the charge.
Ba-da
agreed
It was funny to see 6’6" Hayes get 2 blocks back to back on Pau Gasol without jumping.
by PetrieFingSucks on Dec 27, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
Before we signed him
I had an idea that Hayes was maybe a better defender than Sammy. I knew he was better on ball, but I thought Slammy’s shot blocking might have cancelled it out. But watching Chuck play last night, and really thinking about how Sam played for us on defense last year, there is no question in my mind that Hayes is a better defender than Samuel Dalembert. By a lot.
Read: Toblerone Jones
About Chuck, I don't think he's a star player like we were all hoping we'd sign
But I don’t think we win last night without him
by FTFeli on Dec 27, 2011 3:21 PM PST via mobile reply actions
They didn't sign him to be the star
It’s Cousins/Thornton/Tyreke’s job to become that star. They signed him to bring great defense, grab rebounds, mentor the young players and help them increase their defensive intensity and be a voice in the locker room. Which judging by what we’ve seen so far, he’s doing exactly that.
by HeuristicLineup on Dec 27, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions

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