Chuck Hayes Is Not Kenny Thomas, And Other Facts

He is taking his wrinkled head to South Beach…

if it is indeed true, and goes through.

I don’t care that he’s 6’6" …. dude fills up the defensive stats. That’s EXACTLY what this team has needed for a while. We’re not depending on him to come in and score 15 a night. Dude gets over a steal a game, gets boards, passes the ball well …… I like it. Plus, at 5 mil a season …. it’s not a horrible contract that we’ll regret.

As much as I wanna see them go get a Nene or Gasol …. I’ll take this one. I’d much rather have them spend 5 mil on Hayes instead of spending 10 mil for Dalembert.

Chuck Hayes was never lucky enough to be around Larry Brown on a day when Ed Snider felt like kissing LB’s ass for the final time.

I’m never been concerned about Hayes ability to mesh with Cousins on the court. My concern with Cousins what kind of a player who could have his ear. Sharing alma mater’s is not enough to convince me that Chuck Hayes could have the kind of between the ears effect Cousins needs. Sure, there’s always a possibility that another veteran like Nene or Chandler doesn’t do that either. There’s always risks involved in anything you do. But, I still think the odds are higher that Chandler (especially) would have a greater chance of reaching Cousins than Hayes would. The sad thing is that Chuck Hayes is a low budget version of a “good move”. That’s what I’m upset at; not Hayes himself.

Chuck Hayes didn’t keep those stars (Pau, Dirk, Griffin, Amar’e, etc) from doing their thing. He probably just made it more physically painful. Additionally I’m not buying that Hayes is a better defender than Dalembert, Nene or Tyson Chandler. Not buying it at all. Hayes is effective at what he does, no doubt, but he is not the total package of those guys. You can cite anything you want; Synergy, DRtg, or even adjusted +/-. For the record, I find the DRtg, adjusted +/- and even in general Hayes’ talents impressive. (Although that year of 37.5 TS% is mind blowing.) Since it’s obvious that neither of us would agree on this, that’s the way it is. Agree to disagree is the spice of life.

Not arguing about John Salmons as that is a complete waste of time here. I’d be slamming my head with a force of infinite gravity into a wall and surviving before my viewpoint agrees with yours on that. As far as Tyreke Evans, DeMarcus Cousins and Jimmer Fredette carrying the offense, isn’t that one of the reasons they were drafted? (Especially in Cuz & Jimmer’s case?) At some point you’re going to need guys who don’t play with the ball and guys who do play with the ball. You need guys who will take a lot of shots and guys who don’t. That’s kinda how the NBA works. There is no such thing as an utopia of basketball in the NBA (aka ball movement all the time), and the only fool is you for believing in that sorta thing (if you are one of those fools). Not having a player who is dominate and uses a lot of possessions has as many negatives as positives. At the end of the day, and in many cases vs almost all teams, you need a guy who can score 1 on 1. Isolation basketball in the NBA is just a part of the deal whether you can accept that or not. (And I’m not talking about Salmons here.) How Tyreke, Cuz & Jimmer are able to consistently get shots will define their careers offensively. That’s just the name of the game.

Chuck Hayes will be loved by the fans in Sacramento. There is no doubt about that.

I think it was a combination of two things.

1. The Maloofs talked about a big free agent splash as a reason for some of their salary cap moves. People held them to it.

2. I know nobody has vocalized this but I personally think the elephant in the room is Carl Landry and his advanced stats when we traded for him and whether they will translate from Houston to Sac.

if they do this, it clears the way for Cousins at center and the ultimate roster spot battle between JT and Whiteside shall commence.

Hayes is a limited offensive player … which means that Evans, Jimmer and Cousins will be required to bear the heavy load on that end

lol, got some great visuals at the moment.

Think about, put Hayes on Pau for 10 minutes, make him work for his shots, get in his face, anger him, make him pass off to Jason Kapono. Then, when Pau is sulking and Kobe is yelling at him, bring in JJ to take advantage. Start the 3rd the same way, then put Hayes back on the floor in the 4th to bring the defense. I like this move, a lot. People I know who follow the Rockets say Hayes is one of the best unknown players in the league.

Statistically unlikely, but the Arena-Formerly-Named-Power-Balance will literally crumble when this happens.

Do we still have the problem of not having a dependable front court scorer minus DMC – and what happens when he get into foul trouble?

I guess we’ll have to see how JJ does.

watch a playoff series of chuck against elite big men then you can stop calling him a defensive stopper. the guy is like a knuckballer in baseball – coach’s like them because they eat up 200+ innings every year but you don’t really want them in your rotation come playoff time.

with JJ, JT, DMC, HW on the roster already and DJ available if you want him – not worth $20M to have a guy just take up space. what the kings need is a shot blocker to help Jimmer, MT on defense. Hayes won’t fill that role and the D is going to look very similar to when B52 and Hawes were back there on D.

you’d be better off paying dalembert or chandler than going with an undersized big that ultimately will get outplayed by JT, DMC & JJ in the rotation.

was asked in his chat about what he thought about Hayes to the Kings … his response …

I think they have made many head scratching decisions the past 6 years, but this is not one of them. It’s the no-brainer of the year.

GSW reportedly offered 4 year 60 million, but Knicks emerge as front runner:

KBergCBS Ken Berger
Multiple league executives say the Knicks are now in the lead to land Tyson Chandler, jumping in front of the Warriors.

Setting up roster to land CP3 in 2012.

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
RT @sam_amick: Source says Golden State expected to make hard run at RFA DeAndre Jordan if/when New York wins out on Chandler (CO-SIGN)

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Source close to Tyson Chandler talks just told ESPN.com: “It’s 98 percent sure that Tyson is going to wind up with the Knicks.”

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Tayshaun Prince will sign a four year, $27 million dollar deal to stay with Detroit, league sources tell Y! Sports.

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ChrisBHaynes Chris Haynes
According to Chuck Hayes’ agent, The #Sacramento #Kings & #Minnesota #Timberwolves are on equal ground in attaining Hayes. #NBA #Rockets

all the rumors of CP3 going to LA, Pau to Houston, Chandler to NYK ….. perfect time to go offer $$$ to Nene!!

His jump hook is really, really pretty. He gets a full extension on his arm and puts great rotation on the ball.

He’ll add a veteran presence to our young group of bigs and give Westphal some options. And save us some money to spend elsewhere in the process.

Adding Barea or someone similar would be a similar move: improve the team without putting a lot of money out there.

Everyone wants to sign the big names, but they aren’t coming here anyway until we improve and get closer to contender status. So let’s relish the opportunity to add solid if unspectacular pieces to our young core and hope those youngsters emerge. That’s really what the Kings have to bank on in any case.

Y’all are going to absolutely love Chuck. Without a doubt, the best inch-for-inch post defender I’ve ever seen. He shuts down everybody from Amar’e, Blake, KG and Dirk to Pau, David West, and Bosh. He’s just amazing, I’m going to miss him immensely. You got a steal.