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Kings Fight Admirably, But Fall to Celtics 95-90

Well there goes our winning streak.

In a mostly competitive, definitely sloppy, game of basketball, the Kings managed to hang with a very good Boston team for a large portion of the game.  In the end though, Boston's experience and excellent defense won out as they were able to pull away in the fourth quarter for a pretty comfortable victory.

The Kings biggest problem was turnovers, as they racked up 23 .  Credit Boston's defense all you want for making life tough for Sacramento on offense, but several of those turnovers were unforced or simply bad decisions down the stretch.  Boston also did a much better job of rebounding the ball, especially on the offensive glass.  Several plays in the final quarter saw the Kings play some good defense to force a Boston miss, but then the Celtics got the 2nd opportunity and a basket thanks to an offensive rebound.

Another problem for the Kings lay in the fact that unlike the Lakers and Hornets, the Celtics backcourt featured two guys who you have to account for in Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo.  There was no place to hide Beno Udrih on defense.  Tyreke ended up drawing Rondo duty which left Beno on Allen.  Either way the Celtics have an advantage.  Unsurprisingly Ray Allen had a big game, scoring a game high 22 on 9-15 shots, and 4-7 from three as he continuously got wide open off of screens.  Tyreke and co. didn't do a much better job guarding Rondo, who seemingly got wherever he wanted to go whenever he wanted, and he also was hitting his jumpers too.  Rondo finished with 17 points and 10 assists.

Star-divide

The Kings best stretch came in the 2nd quarter as the bench unit led by Pooh Jeter and Donté Greene sparked a big run playing against Boston's reserves.  Greene scored almost all of his 15 points in the quarter, and Jeter contributed by setting up his teammates for easy opportunities and pushing the tempo.  As a bonus he hit his shots as well, going 4-5 from the field for 8 points.  The Kings finished off the half up 9 after being down by 7 at the end of the first.

Sacramento was definitely looking to get DeMarcus Cousins going early but Kevin Garnett was giving him fits on that end.  It was clear Boston was intentionally trying to get into his head and frustrate him.  At one point Rajon Rondo pushed him during a dead ball near the end of the half.  Westphal quickly pulled DeMarcus from the game to make sure he was calm (he was) and Rondo got a technical.  DeMarcus responded in the 2nd half with solid numbers, finally getting into a bit of a groove, especially in the 3rd quarter, and he finished with 20 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 blocks in a game/career high 39 minutes.

DeMarcus's frontcourt partners did not fare as well offensively.  Dalembert got the start for the injured Jason Thompson.  Defensively he still was as good as ever, especially in the first half when he had 4 of his 5 total blocks.  But perhaps fueled with confidence from the past two games when he was scoring so well, Sammy only shot 2-9.  These are the same shots he was taking the last two games too, but this time they weren't falling.  It's the law of averages at work.

Carl Landry didn't get anything going, scoring only 3 points in 16 minutes.  He was playing a bit out of position at the SF spot with DMC and Sammy in, and it was clear he was out of his comfort zone, especially on defense, where Pierce took advantage and got Carl into foul trouble quickly.  Carl ended up with 4 fouls in those 16 minutes.

Darnell Jackson had 3 turnovers in 3 minutes and didn't play at all in the second half.  He was down on the court at halftime clutching his chest.  Apparently he's fine and was suffering from shortness of breath.  Let's hope that it isn't anything worse.

In the end, the Kings lost to a much better team, but they remained competitive throughout.  A win would have been nice, really nice in fact, but I can't complain with the effort the Kings showed tonight.  Good game.

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The Maloofs will always be some playas, Geoff Petrie can neva be a hata, Chris Webber will always be a playa, Mike Biiby can neva be a hata, Vlade Divac will always be a player, Doug Christe can neva be a hata, Bobby Jackson will always be a playa, Peja Stojakovic can neva be a hata, White Chocalate will always be a playa, Rick Adelman can neva be a hata, Pete Carril you know he's a playa, Kevin Martin can neva be a hata, Omri Casspi will always be a playa, DeMarcus Cousins can neva be a hata, Tyreke Evans now that's a real playa, THE SACRAMENTO KINGS NOW THEM SOME REAL PLAYAS!!!!!

by slamson on Feb 1, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

If you're not first

You’re last

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Feb 1, 2011 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

No, there's second, third...

The Maloofs will always be some playas, Geoff Petrie can neva be a hata, Chris Webber will always be a playa, Mike Biiby can neva be a hata, Vlade Divac will always be a player, Doug Christe can neva be a hata, Bobby Jackson will always be a playa, Peja Stojakovic can neva be a hata, White Chocalate will always be a playa, Rick Adelman can neva be a hata, Pete Carril you know he's a playa, Kevin Martin can neva be a hata, Omri Casspi will always be a playa, DeMarcus Cousins can neva be a hata, Tyreke Evans now that's a real playa, THE SACRAMENTO KINGS NOW THEM SOME REAL PLAYAS!!!!!

by slamson on Feb 1, 2011 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Never seen "Talladega Nights" huh

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Feb 1, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

No he probably has

When Ricky confronts his dad later in the movie his dad says the “If you’re not first you’re last” saying was probably from when he was high. “There’s second, third, hell even fourth!”

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by Aykis16 on Feb 1, 2011 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Touché

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Feb 1, 2011 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

That's exactly what I meant Aykis : )

excellent movie

The Maloofs will always be some playas, Geoff Petrie can neva be a hata, Chris Webber will always be a playa, Mike Biiby can neva be a hata, Vlade Divac will always be a player, Doug Christe can neva be a hata, Bobby Jackson will always be a playa, Peja Stojakovic can neva be a hata, White Chocalate will always be a playa, Rick Adelman can neva be a hata, Pete Carril you know he's a playa, Kevin Martin can neva be a hata, Omri Casspi will always be a playa, DeMarcus Cousins can neva be a hata, Tyreke Evans now that's a real playa, THE SACRAMENTO KINGS NOW THEM SOME REAL PLAYAS!!!!!

by slamson on Feb 1, 2011 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

DON'T YOU PUT THAT EVIL ON ME RICKY BOBBY!

YOU ARE NOT PARALYZED!

I love beating dead horses.

by allbenji's on Feb 1, 2011 10:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Lol

Dear baby Jesus

The Maloofs will always be some playas, Geoff Petrie can neva be a hata, Chris Webber will always be a playa, Mike Biiby can neva be a hata, Vlade Divac will always be a player, Doug Christe can neva be a hata, Bobby Jackson will always be a playa, Peja Stojakovic can neva be a hata, White Chocalate will always be a playa, Rick Adelman can neva be a hata, Pete Carril you know he's a playa, Kevin Martin can neva be a hata, Omri Casspi will always be a playa, DeMarcus Cousins can neva be a hata, Tyreke Evans now that's a real playa, THE SACRAMENTO KINGS NOW THEM SOME REAL PLAYAS!!!!!

by slamson on Feb 1, 2011 10:41 PM PST up reply actions  

rec'd!

Gotta Love Your Sacramento Kings!!My Song!...
When they loose?not feelin' the love so much(ich mir..oy vey!)

by Rhondda Nunes on Feb 1, 2011 10:53 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Good game overall

Just extremely sloppy at the end. As long as we remain competitive

The Maloofs will always be some playas, Geoff Petrie can neva be a hata, Chris Webber will always be a playa, Mike Biiby can neva be a hata, Vlade Divac will always be a player, Doug Christe can neva be a hata, Bobby Jackson will always be a playa, Peja Stojakovic can neva be a hata, White Chocalate will always be a playa, Rick Adelman can neva be a hata, Pete Carril you know he's a playa, Kevin Martin can neva be a hata, Omri Casspi will always be a playa, DeMarcus Cousins can neva be a hata, Tyreke Evans now that's a real playa, THE SACRAMENTO KINGS NOW THEM SOME REAL PLAYAS!!!!!

by slamson on Feb 1, 2011 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

yes.....exactly.

we were more competitive against Boston than the fa…er…lakers were…

Gotta Love Your Sacramento Kings!!My Song!...
When they loose?not feelin' the love so much(ich mir..oy vey!)

by Rhondda Nunes on Feb 1, 2011 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't believe in moral victories (often)

But damn if this wasn’t a moral victory. I don’t know exactly how good this team is, but we aren’t a joke either. Keep up the hard work genleman. Cheers.

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Feb 1, 2011 10:05 PM PST reply actions  

Leading his team to another


Morrall victory.

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by section214 on Feb 1, 2011 10:08 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Well done sir

Well done

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on Feb 1, 2011 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

lol ?

The Maloofs will always be some playas, Geoff Petrie can neva be a hata, Chris Webber will always be a playa, Mike Biiby can neva be a hata, Vlade Divac will always be a player, Doug Christe can neva be a hata, Bobby Jackson will always be a playa, Peja Stojakovic can neva be a hata, White Chocalate will always be a playa, Rick Adelman can neva be a hata, Pete Carril you know he's a playa, Kevin Martin can neva be a hata, Omri Casspi will always be a playa, DeMarcus Cousins can neva be a hata, Tyreke Evans now that's a real playa, THE SACRAMENTO KINGS NOW THEM SOME REAL PLAYAS!!!!!

by slamson on Feb 1, 2011 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

fat foot

sausage toes

"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!

by caseycheesecake on Feb 2, 2011 7:28 AM PST up reply actions  

gross

sorry if that is your foot

Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!

by prowseinthehouse on Feb 1, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

or her worst foot?

Gotta Love Your Sacramento Kings!!My Song!...
When they loose?not feelin' the love so much(ich mir..oy vey!)

by Rhondda Nunes on Feb 1, 2011 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

If you need to tattoo that on your foot to remember how to walk...

You might be a Lakers fan.

Also, way to place it facing out so you can’t read it, dumbass.

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Which I will eat.

by andy sims on Feb 1, 2011 11:26 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Superior Mental toughness won this game

That’s no surprise, we tightened up/loosened up when the pressure was on and the Celts were staring our (mostly) kids in the face.

A lot of talent is just plain mental toughness, which can be learned.

"But screw your courage to the stiking place - and we'll not fail"
Macbeth Act I, Sc VII

by lietothegirls on Feb 1, 2011 10:08 PM PST reply actions  

Proud of our boys

but I also hope they learn from this.

I was really impressed by the Celtics effort. They showed that late montage of plays and you could see the Celtics diving on every loose ball and really they were quicker than us on a lot of close plays. Our young gunners need to learn to play with that same controlled intensity. Hopefully seeing it up close and watching the film tomorrow helps them to learn.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Feb 1, 2011 10:13 PM PST reply actions  

I thought that was the difference that put the Celtics over the top

"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds

by kingsfan300 on Feb 1, 2011 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

The Kings are still figuring it out


(hey, it is the post game thread, gotta gif)

by betweentheeyes on Feb 1, 2011 10:14 PM PST reply actions  

Looks like a young Jerry Reynolds

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by section214 on Feb 1, 2011 10:15 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

We've found a portal to the past

Quickly! Warn him about Pervis Ellison’s knees.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Feb 1, 2011 10:32 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

lol!...cute!

Gotta Love Your Sacramento Kings!!My Song!...
When they loose?not feelin' the love so much(ich mir..oy vey!)

by Rhondda Nunes on Feb 1, 2011 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

And the rest of Pervis Ellison, for that matter.

"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie

by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 2, 2011 7:04 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Tough game but they happen.

The C’s turned up the pressure and we didn’t know how to respond. Most teams don’t really. However, it was nice that the C’s couldn’t just push us around at the same time. They tried and didn’t succeed in that.

A moral victory sucks, but that’s all there is. Onto San Antonio!

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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Feb 1, 2011 10:18 PM PST reply actions  

When I said we got beat by superior mental toughness above

That really only happened to our offense, our D held up pretty well, though they could have come up with a rebound or two that were there for the taking and might have given us a shot.

"But screw your courage to the stiking place - and we'll not fail"
Macbeth Act I, Sc VII

by lietothegirls on Feb 1, 2011 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I just remember being at the 108-63 loss in Dec. '08

the Celtics are the same; we have come a long way since. great game tonight, we just got beat (outhustled) by a great team. if we do as well against SA I will not be unhappy.

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by sj60615 on Feb 1, 2011 10:27 PM PST up reply actions  

A little smarts and a few more Beno Drano's

and we’d have had a good shot.

We too were at that horrific game. I think it was near the time Indy came in and blew us out? Indy! Pretty sure we saw those back to back, maybe not…..

"But screw your courage to the stiking place - and we'll not fail"
Macbeth Act I, Sc VII

by lietothegirls on Feb 1, 2011 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I still think you should have gotten your money back for that loss against SA to finish the season in Arco.

That was ridiculous.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Feb 2, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

My favorite part of the game...

…was when Garnett was fouled and he started huffing and puffing and mugging and just basically, acting like an ass, and the camera cut to Cousins, and he was giving him the the raised eyebrow and shaking his head. It was awesome.

For all the crap Cousins has taken in the media, he was the one acting like a professional and Garnett looked like a punk. He wasn’t intimidated at all and he didn’t get sucked into jawing with him. Kids going to be alright.

by R-Man on Feb 1, 2011 10:22 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

ha

Sorry, but Cousins was staring down KG when he was on the floor and Rondo defended his teammate. Cousins initiated the contact as well. MDC was the punk in that situation.

And as good as he is, he clearly needs to grow up. Rookies shouldn’t complain about foul calls as much as he does and he cost his team some points by not hustling down the floor and complaining to the refs instead.

by misterx2day on Feb 1, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't remember it that way

"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds

by kingsfan300 on Feb 1, 2011 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

well...

Here’s the sequence, check the video if you don’t believe me.

KG pokes the ball away, dives on the floor, ends up out of bounds. Cousins (for whatever reason) stands and stares over KG, sort of like he just dunked on him (once again, I don’t get why he did it). As Rondo goes over to help up KG, Cousins doesn’t move. Rondo puts up his arm to separate Cousins from KG and give him some room, Cousins knocks his arm, Rondo pushes Cousins.

by misterx2day on Feb 1, 2011 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

You had me feeling sorry for you, up until Rondo Pushes Cousins

Puck move, it the refs jobs to set up the inbounds play.

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by HighTops on Feb 1, 2011 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

DMC should have kicked the fake tough guy

Might have cut down on some of his moving screens and cheap elbows later in the game

The worst part of losing is that nobody on the kings got the chance to mimic that ridiculous rabid dog routine, just play the game, douchehat

by lchristmas on Feb 1, 2011 11:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd for awesome mockery of the almighty Celtics.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Feb 2, 2011 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Bullshit

Rondo ran over during dead ball like there was some sort of altercation, when there wasn’t. DMC was not taunting anyone, he was just in the vicinity of the play. Then Rondo decides to play tough cop by putting hand on DMC. Big bad Rondo to the rescue! He was looking for trouble where there wasn’t any, until he arrived. So DMC rightfully brushes away Rondo’s hand, and then Rondo decides to shove DMC with two hands.

The refs saw Rondo as the instigator and the league office will think the same thing when they review the play and do not rescind the technical.

by bench_blob on Feb 2, 2011 12:19 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Hey Bench ease up, Rondo was only protecting his bitch.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
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by HighTops on Feb 2, 2011 6:21 AM PST up reply actions   4 recs

This is how I remember it

"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds

by kingsfan300 on Feb 2, 2011 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I'm very concerned

with players who give KG any attitude. I’m Certain he’s never done anything to provoke some…. Are you kidding? That guy doesn’t shut up!

"But screw your courage to the stiking place - and we'll not fail"
Macbeth Act I, Sc VII

by lietothegirls on Feb 2, 2011 7:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah...

….I feel so bad for KG & Rondo. The way I will feel bad the day somebody just “accidentally” shoots Dick Cheney.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Feb 2, 2011 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I disagree that Cousins was a "punk" in that situation

He just wasn’t backing down from the Celtics “tough guy” routine.

However, I agree there were times he wasn’t hustling back to play defense. And it wasn’t always over jawing with the officials. Kid still needs to get himself in better shape.

by otis29 on Feb 2, 2011 5:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Excellent points Otis.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Feb 2, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Are you a Kings fan mister?

Who the hell is MDC? MeDarcus Cousins?

The Maloofs will always be some playas, Geoff Petrie can neva be a hata, Chris Webber will always be a playa, Mike Biiby can neva be a hata, Vlade Divac will always be a player, Doug Christe can neva be a hata, Bobby Jackson will always be a playa, Peja Stojakovic can neva be a hata, White Chocalate will always be a playa, Rick Adelman can neva be a hata, Pete Carril you know he's a playa, Kevin Martin can neva be a hata, Omri Casspi will always be a playa, DeMarcus Cousins can neva be a hata, Tyreke Evans now that's a real playa, THE SACRAMENTO KINGS NOW THEM SOME REAL PLAYAS!!!!!

by slamson on Feb 2, 2011 6:51 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

lol!

Ya, if you watch the game, it’s clear that KG was more of a punk than DeMarcus was. But, thats sort of KG’s thing to fire up his team. I had no problems with anything DMC did. You can’t back down and let the the Celtics push you around.

Sometimes you just have to look yourself in the mirror and say....Tyreke Evans.
That just happened.

by darkadun on Feb 2, 2011 7:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Looked a bit like gamemanship from both KG and DMC

DMC just giving KG a little taste of himself. Not really taunting, but more of a mean-mug. Rondo still shouldn’t have pushed Cousins…

My main objection was Doc Rivers…I know many of you watching the game on the TV didn’t see it, but he was on the floor for many of the possessions that were on the opposite end of the court….How does that happen without a ref giving a technical? Or at least a verbal warning? It didn’t have any effect on the game itself, but it just goes to show that the NBA selectively chooses to enforce its own policies…

by clicc916 on Feb 2, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Apparently the Celtics have the "Green" light

to do whatever the hell they want to because that’s “just how they are.” Terrible excuse imo

Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!

by prowseinthehouse on Feb 2, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Jason Kidd "ran into" Atlanta coach Mike Woodson last season

just to get the guy to stay off the court. It was very clever.

by betweentheeyes on Feb 2, 2011 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember that

that was funny

Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!

by prowseinthehouse on Feb 3, 2011 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn.

I’m really sorry I missed that.

"I think I'll pat myself on the back. You don't mind, do you?" --Jerry Reynolds

by Juan Primo on Feb 1, 2011 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed--he's become a caricature of a bad Disney villian

All of the snarling, scowling and cheast thumping is ridiculous. I’m not saying don’t play the game with passion, but he did that everytime he was fouled inside, nevermind when he got free for a dunk. Dude is what, 36 years old, and it seems to be getting worse and not better at this stage in his career. Weird.

by R-Man on Feb 2, 2011 7:05 AM PST up reply actions  

He's a parody of himself.

If that’s even possible.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Feb 2, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Ugh.

That was just a fake dramatic moment from KG. It was hard for me to take him seriously after that.

"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds

by kingsfan300 on Feb 2, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

You actually took KG seriously before that?

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Feb 2, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

It was the biggest moment of his career

So I was expecting him to be serious for once. But then that happened. So, yeeaah.

"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds

by kingsfan300 on Feb 2, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

After KG popped off about the Kings-Wolves series being akin to Iraq...

…I knew there was something wrong. The fact that the C’s organization has seemed to push that out of him is only exacerbating the behavior as far as I’m concerned.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Feb 2, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

KG is man who will require a lot of medicine and counseling when he retires

Seriously…I’ve never seen someone so passionate about the game that it just messes up (perceived) personality. I don’t know what he’ll do if he can’t play the game….

by clicc916 on Feb 2, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Create model cities named after himself

Such as Kevingarnettia
Or Doucheland

Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!

by prowseinthehouse on Feb 2, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

If karma exists

He will sign up for the antoine walker plan at lenny dykstra financial advising, and wind up delivering pizza in the minneapolis suburbs

by lchristmas on Feb 2, 2011 6:32 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed

I was having fun watching Cuz’s facial expressions while KG was acting like he was having some sort of roid rage episode. My favorite part was when Cuz fouled KG with his arm right on top of KG’s head. You could see KG didn’t like having a rookie do that to him. Cuz just smirked “like isn’t what I’m supposed to do? What is up with this guy?”

by KingsFan on Feb 2, 2011 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Do as I say not as I do.

It’s the Celtics way.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 2, 2011 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Just got back from Arco.

Couple of random observations.

-I didn’t see what happened with Darnell at the half, I was just watching our guys walk into the tunnel and then all of a sudden Jackson is on the floor at midcourt with the doctor next to him. It’s good to hear that Darnell isn’t seriously injured., we were really confused because we didn’t see anything happen, and he hadn’t been injured while playing.

-The turnovers! Man, those were ugly. Especially that minute or so in the first quarter that was basically shot-steal/turnover-missed shot by other team-rebound-pass-shot-turnover/steal-repeat. UGLY minute of basketball.

-Waaaaaay too many Celtics fans in Arco tonight. I had the misfortune of sitting behind the Celts bench…it wasn’t fun. I felt like a minnow in a sea of great white sharks. That said, I think we did a decent job of drowning them out most of the time.

-Don’t know if you guys saw this on TV, but in the fourth quarter, everyone was fighting for one particular rebound, and Omri came up with it in the end. Kings called a timeout, and it turned out someone had ripped Casspi’s jersey. I don’t remember seeing that in the NBA before, so I figured I’d bring it up. They had to bring out a fresh jersey for him to change into on the court before the timeout ended.

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by PurpleLoco on Feb 1, 2011 10:25 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I only saw the last 7 minutes

What’s the story with Jackson?

How did Donte play? He put up some good numbers on offense, it seems.

And how was Omri’s D? He mostly played on Pierce, I guess?

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by RikSmits on Feb 2, 2011 12:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Jackson seems to be ok, had trouble catching his breath walking off the court

Donte and Pooh started with a couple of break aways at the basket, and Donte hit his first 3. Made 2 free throws after getting fouled in the paint, And, put up a end of the shot clock heat check with Pierce in his face.

Omri and Donte defended Pierce as well as can be expected. He was held to below his average, and was 0-1 from three. He did run them off some screens but the defense in the paint was pretty good, and blocked him once. I say pretty good, at least against the bigger guys, the quicker ones seem to be too fast for our help defense to react. Partly because Tyreke was playing way off Rondo, and when Rondo drove he had a full head of steam by the time Evans got a chance to get in front of him. And, Nat did the same to Pooh.

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by HighTops on Feb 2, 2011 6:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Thank you, HT

The streak of good games has coincided with improved defense. They have to keep it up at both ends of the floor and good things will happen.

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by RikSmits on Feb 2, 2011 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

re: C's fans in ARCO

Not much you can do about that, I’m afraid, other than cheer your ass off. It’s funny, though, how many more Celtics fans happen to show up now, as opposed to, say, 2006. Bangwagoners gonna bandwagon, I guess.

by LPKingsFan on Feb 2, 2011 5:34 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Well at least they show up with Celtics gear

Not like that guy who came with a Heat jersey of Shaq, or this one guy who had a Lakers t-shirt on…I mean, I get the Shaq jersey, but seriously….Lakers gear at a Kings-Celtics game?

by clicc916 on Feb 2, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

They don't always have enough money

to keep buying jerseys every time their “team” changes

Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!

by prowseinthehouse on Feb 2, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

My main observation

The Celtics defense was very, very good in the fourth quarter. There was rarely a pass in any offensive set that the Kings were able to make without a Celtics player getting a piece of it.

The Kings are just not good enough at running their offense yet to deal with that kind of pressure.

by otis29 on Feb 2, 2011 5:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Happy that they contest for almost the entire game, but

being outscored 48-28 in the paint and being outrebounded by a bunch of old men is nothing to be proud of.

Dalembert had some decent shots in the paint that didn’t fall, but other than that we didn’t do a very good job at getting good shots near the basket. Too many long jumpshots especially by our Centers and PF which had been falling but failed us tonight. And shots early in the possession, before anyone was in position to rebound.

Three 24 sec shot clock violations? Unexceptable. If we had Rondo, we would have won that game easily. Neither Tyreke nor Beno did a very good job facilitating the offense. And, my pet peeve, when your point guard has to give up the ball to your center at the top of the key, bad things are going to happen.

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by HighTops on Feb 1, 2011 11:49 PM PST reply actions  

I agree HT

The guards lost our game for us. Too many times, they gave up the ball to our front court players waaaay out on the perimeter. I also dislike Tyrekes inability to look for other guys on fast break plays.

It also seemed that, as a team, we didn’t rotate well defensively in the second half, compared to the first. In the first half, our guys stuck to their respective player pretty well. They switched on screens only when necessary, but then switched back as soon as they realized the play was going to be reset. In the second half, our guys would switch on screens, and then follow their new player around. This caused some confusion, which led to wide open shots like Ray Allen’s open corner threes. It seemed as though they didn’t know who they should commit to and ended up making the wrong choice.

I’ll admit that part of this strategy was due to Boston’s ability to find and exploit our weaknesses, but I’d like our defenders to at least know where their assigned man is at all times.

by clicc916 on Feb 2, 2011 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Personally

I thought it was telling that the only time the Kings got any real ball movement was with A) Pooh in the game and B) the Boston reserves in the game. Otherwise, ball movement was very hard to come by.

It was a tough game, but another step in the ladder of learning to play well in the NBA.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 2, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

We couldn't move the ball against Boston's starters

mainly because both Tyreke and Beno like to throw soft passes, and Boston makes you pay for that. They got more tips and steals off of lazy passes than I’ve seen in an NBA game before. Rondo got 4 steals, and I don’t know how many tipped passes. Nate Robinson came in off the bench to get 5 steals.

by rpmonkey on Feb 2, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Well that's part of it

But they really didn’t have a clue how to run the offense once the defensive pressure was at an all time high. And in the fourth, Boston was really good defensively, with guys cutting off passing lanes and ready to rotate once one of our ball handlers got passed the first guy off a screen.

The Kings were clueless, where most of the guys were standing around while the ball handler would aimlessly use a pick to see if they could break down the defense off the dribble. Boston took them to school, but hopefully it’s a lesson learned.

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by kingsfan300 on Feb 2, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Pass to move the ball it to the open man, dribble the ball to get to a place to pass the ball

As I said my pet peeve is having your guard give up the ball to a big whose not in position to do anything with it. Boston’s big took 30 shots and had 6 turnovers, the Kings bigs took 23 shots and had 11 turnovers.

When your playing against one of the best defensive teams in the league do you really want your Bigs distributing the ball. And, why are our 2 biggest players taking 11 shots from long 2’s and only 5 shots at the rim? Could it be that the guards are giving up the dribble and the bigs have to take the shot because no one is coming back to get the ball or moving toward the basket? Like you said the offense looks terrible when the off the ball movement stops, but it looks even worse when it stops with the ball in one of the bigs hands.

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by HighTops on Feb 2, 2011 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

why are our 2 biggest players taking 11 shots from long 2’s and only 5 shots at the rim

Because an open long shot is better than a close contested shot.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 2, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Not when your shooting 30% on the long 2's and 65% at the rim

plus your more likely to get fouled being aggressive in the paint, then you are when they’re giving you the outside shot and not even trying to contest it.

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by HighTops on Feb 2, 2011 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Right.

That works so well against teams that pack the paint and get relatively few foul calls compared to the one’s that other teams might commit.

While your logic would make sense, it doesn’t take into account style or strength. DMC’s best strength right now is sitting at the top of the high post, not taking an awkward forced layup in the teeth of the defense.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 3, 2011 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

The bigs weren't exactly putting themselves in good positions to receive the ball

And a lot of that had to do with the Celtics’ post defense. KG was not giving up any ground to Cousins, forcing him to continue catching the ball up high and crowding him on the perimeter. He was a pest all game.

I know it’s a pet peeve of yours, but the Celt’s did a good job forcing the Kings to receive the ball up high, specifically KG on Cousins.

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by kingsfan300 on Feb 2, 2011 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

On the other hand

Beno and Reke should have called some plays rather than dribbling and probing to find a seam in the Celt’s defense. Pooh noticeably called a couple plays when he came in, setting up the guys, but the Celt’s were already on their run by then and had momentum on their side.

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by kingsfan300 on Feb 2, 2011 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not placing blame or saying it could be done, But

Cousins played 39 minutes and had 4 shots in the paint and Dalembert played 38 minutes and had 3 shots. No matter how good Bostons defense is is that just giving up before you even try? And, LA’s defense isn’t that much worst than Bostons and we took 38 shots in the paint against them.

There are plays to get the ball into the paint even against zones and good interior defenses. We got the ball into Dalembert but he just missed a couple of close in shots, and we never went back to him. I think you can count the number of times that Cousins has received a pass in the paint this entire season on you fingers.

I’m not willing to point fingers, I just would like to see some progress in that area. But, I don’t believe that Boston’s defense was the only reason. Cle was 20-37 in the paint against Bos, Por was 25-46, LA was 22-39, Pho was 14-25 in the games since Perkins returned. And, the Kings were 11-22.

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by HighTops on Feb 2, 2011 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice try

Some Kings played inspired in the first half and others the second. Now if they came into other games with the mentality that yea their record may be ahead of ours, but tonight the tides change, come for blood vengeance or even vindication. The Kings must realize that other teams see them as a stepping stone. So be upset come out every night light you need to settle debt. I think they learned that passive play leads to failure and that if you take cheap shots, with no response it keeps happening, but once you turn it on them and return the favor. Its a new game. People back down or double down and it makes for compelling basketball.

You cant allow the cheap shots the Rondo tripping cousins while on floor, or the moving screens with the added forearm to the face. Know the referee’s are not going to give you the call, but realize with purpose greater than yourself you can withstand more pain and punishment and return the victor and be respected by your foes.

by hallcliff on Feb 2, 2011 12:04 AM PST reply actions  

Easy breakdown

Dribble into traffic. Get stripped. Allow easy transition basket. Repeat.

When you stop running your offense and start going one-on-one, bad things happen.

The Kings played pretty good half-court defense and Ray Allen bailed the Celtics out a few times with late buckets including threes as the clock expired. The Kings also should have doubled Pierce a couple times late in the shot clock when he had to shoot, did and made it.

KG is probably the guy you want to make shoot on that team. Certainly would rather him or Davis try to beat you than Pierce or Allen.

We played a great first half, but the better team showed up in the second half and we didn’t. The refs also let a lot of stuff go, but physical teams get those breaks.

"His D was a difference at the end."

by NewEraKings on Feb 2, 2011 4:39 AM PST reply actions  

This

We were at the game and I have to say I agree with your assessments N E K. The lack of a true pg really is glaring. The difference between how the team plays when Tyreke brings the ball up and how we play when Pooh runs the offense is like night and day.

Very good games by Donte, DMC, Pooh and great defense by Sammy.

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by SayWhat? on Feb 2, 2011 7:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I know, I know

Tyreke, Beno and then Jeter late seemed to make it a point to dribble, dribble, dribble then right into traffic.

I’m sure some of that is the Celts excellent 1/2 court D and a lot of it is the other guys not making cuts to get open

= But don’t let them use the sideline as an extra defender guys – and all three did it and lost the ball.
I know we kept this one close and I guess that’s good, but it was easy to see where with a little more confidance and skill in the running the offence, we could have won it.

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by lietothegirls on Feb 2, 2011 7:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Good teams go to their go-to guys in crunch time

And the Celtics have at least two in Pierce, who really didn’t have to work much, and Allen, who was absolutely brilliant. Rondo also shot much better than I have seen previously and he ran the team flawlessly.

Our go-to guy is a rookie, and he’s still in the process of establishing that he is in fact the guy. And we don’t have that floor general yet who can make sure he gets the ball down low on a consistent basis. And I also think he’s still playing the high post a little too much, which I blame on the coach. I guess he figures getting him some touches in the wrong spot is better than him not getting th eball enough in the low block.

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by NewEraKings on Feb 2, 2011 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for stopping by and the nice words

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by want2win on Feb 2, 2011 7:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, thanks

The effort was nice, but we hope to kick some green butt the next time.

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Mazal tov! Let him make us proud.

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by RikSmits on Feb 2, 2011 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

You'll have to wait until next year.

The two chances ae gone for this year.

Next year, after the Cs take banner no. 18 – hopefully against the Lakers, but the Spurs would do almost as well to have in the finals, then you can take your best shot.

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by lygafe on Feb 2, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I know

we’re patient. Our time will come.

In the meantime, if you guys beat the Heat and the Fakers this year, I’ll be happy.

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by RikSmits on Feb 2, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

You seem like a nice guy

Jump off the jackwagon and buy low with us

by lchristmas on Feb 2, 2011 6:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Hard to be too disappointed with this L

Because we were able to compete with what is arguably the best team in the NBA.

A few things:

Turnovers and Rebounding killed us: Boston out-rebounded us by 7, including 11 offensive boards. This led to the Celtics getting 14 more FGA.

We had another good free throw shooting game at 22/27 (81.5%) and outscored Boston at the stripe 22-15. Beno had a horrible game from the field, but still managed a 60% TS night due to hitting 8/9 FTA. DMC was 5/6 and Tyreke was 6/8.

Can we invite that Donte Greene to come play for us every game? 68% TS for 15pts only 2 rebounds (both offensive), but also a nice block on (if I remember correctly) Kendrick Perkins.

Speaking of blocks, we blocked 12 shots last night, 9 in the first half. Beno was the only Starter not to record a block, Sammy had 5, Tyreke and DMC had 2 each.

Overall, I’m impressed. We lost to a much better team, but we kept it interesting.

by rpmonkey on Feb 2, 2011 9:47 AM PST reply actions  

RPM

Tyreke had 60% TS% but Beno had 43%.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 2, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

argh

Brain fart this morning, didn’t look at hoopdata and did a quick calc on my own, forgot to add in the FTA number. Did the same thing for Donte, his TS was only 63% not 68, but still impressive.

by rpmonkey on Feb 2, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Donte had a great 1st half.

Did little in the 2nd half unfortunately.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 2, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Less of a great 1st half

More of a great 2nd quarter.

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by Aykis16 on Feb 2, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Good point.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 2, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I suggest the team maybe should've taken more 3's

because:
1) The C’s really cranked up the defense, starting at the begining of the 4th quarter. They played harder guarding inside, hustled and went for the passing lanes, but – it was at a price of decreased 3pt attention.
2) The kings took only 11 shots from downtown all game long, out of 71 total, converting 6. Reke was on an above avarage shooting day, Greene too… Omri went 2-4 and was confident, even Cuz hit a 3.
3) The close-to-basket offense / Pick&roll getting slowed was the main reason the team gave up the 7-8 point margin at the 4th… I suggest that, instead of trying to push through the barricades, mabe it would have been better to run some playes similar to the game opening play (Omri’s uncontested 3). After (hopefully) hitting a few 3’s, continue driving into a more wide spread defense.
do you think I have a point?

by cats&shoes on Feb 2, 2011 10:50 AM PST reply actions  

Boston is the 4th best 3pt team and the Kings are the 4th worst

Yet with all of our talk about the great interior defense we had, Boston had 39 shots in the paint and the Kings had 22. And, Boston had 22 baskets to our 11 in the paint. And, Cousins and Dalembert took twice as many shots from long 2’s ( the lowest percentage shot ) as they did from the rim ( the highest percentage shot ).

We need to stay competitive in the paint, because we’re not going to win games with long jumpers. We added 21 feet of bigs this summer, or at least that’s what the Kings advertised.

Maybe the Boston defense was too tough for us to crack with our level of experience, but man, 18 shots at the rim and 13 of those by our guards and wings. That is not going to win games. No we should of at least tried to score in the paint. Maybe we’d lose by 20 trying to attack that way, but at least we’d be attacking with our strength. And, we need to learn how to use our bigs eventually, why not against the best.

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by HighTops on Feb 2, 2011 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Confidance, or a lack of

It didn’t seem to bother them with LA but Boston is so much smarter, move the ball so much better and attack weaknesses without any mercy.

You have to be even more determined to run crisp plays in the paint as you more or less said. The Kings were clearly intimidated in the 2nd half and lost all aggressiveness, lollygagging the ball up the court.

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by lietothegirls on Feb 2, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh I dunno

The Celtics pack the paint better than anyone out there. I would have to think this would be one of the few games where I wouldn’t mind seeing Cousins at least trying the mid range shot. I know he falls in love with it too much and the guards struggle at giving him easy baskets down low but … I dunno, I get that it’s frustrating they aren’t doing this at all this season but to start doing it against that Celtics D is pretty brutal.

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by wallywagon11 on Feb 2, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't say it would be easy, only that we needed to try but we didn't

Our post players only attempted 5 shots. And, it’s not like Boston blocks a lot of shots. they blocked 3 and we blocked 12, but they attacked the paint 39 times anyways.

How many times did we set a back pick on Garnett to free up his man? How many times did our guards or wings pass into the paint to one of our bigs.

All I’m saying is that you’re never going to get better at something if you never try!

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by HighTops on Feb 2, 2011 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

The Celtics ran amazing picks

they hold on them but that was an important difference in their offense.

by betweentheeyes on Feb 2, 2011 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Just because I feel like being an asshole.....

I’d love to see you become a NBA head coach so I could throw you under the bus daily. It would be heap loads of fun.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 2, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

For what they get paid

Id lie down under the wheels

by lchristmas on Feb 2, 2011 6:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Well... taking long 2's is not what I meant

I clearly suggested the guards should have taken more 3’s… not Long 2’s. High -tops: by saying the team was already taking too many long 2’s, you miss my point.
Yes, guards taking long 2’s is bad, big guys taking long 2’s is worse (unless they’re named Andrea or Dirk). But – 3 pointers are a lot harder to prevent then long 2’s… and are much more effective, if not rushed.
And I dissagre, You should’nt try to beat Boston at their own game. When they go though – you must not withdraw out of the box completly, but if you can make some 3’s then the defense will think twice about collapsing inwards’ like boston does.

by cats&shoes on Feb 2, 2011 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

One cannot just say we should've shot more 3's

It’s not that simple. The reason the Celtics usually hit a high percentage of their 3’s is because they execute so well offensively (and they have one of the best passers in Rondo and the best 3pt shooter in Allen). Not to mention their incredible defense which allows for them to get a few more extra 3’s in transition. To say that Tyreke and Greene should shoot more 3’s is a bad idea, it’s not their game. We’re not the knicks, warriors, or suns. 11 3’s actually seems like a good amount. It would probably be higher if we didn’t have so many turnovers. HighTops actually shows that it was our interior offense that was lacking, which is probably most attributed to the Celtics D. It is actually interior offense which opens up the 3 (through penetration or post guys being double teamed). There is no one on the Kings who we can continually run plays for to get 3pt shots. Omri shoots a pretty good 3 but he tends to get a lot of them on kick outs, in transition, and on broken plays. His handle and ability to get to the basket isn’t quite good enough for opponents to give him a little extra space to shoot the 3 (they expect it). The Celtics are also really good at rushing the 3pt shooter. Boston doesn’t really have “their own game” because they do everything well. I think the Kings pretty much did most of what we could expect from them against the probable NBA champs. Hopefully they’ll learn from it.

by amack10 on Feb 2, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

At an average of 15.5 attempts per game

We’re already only 24th in the league.

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by lietothegirls on Feb 2, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

True

But the Celtics are 28th with 14.5 attempts and the margin between 24th and 17th is only 0.4 attempts. If you look at the top 10 teams in 3pt attempts, only two of them have a legit shot at a championship run (Spurs are 7th and Mavs are 8th), and those two teams clearly have better 3pt shooters than the Kings.

by amack10 on Feb 2, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

So your upset Pooh and Tyreke don't take more 3s?

That’s a first

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by wallywagon11 on Feb 2, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

You missed my point

the Kings shoot less than 33% on their 3pt shots, Casspi and Beno were the only active players that shoot better than that. If they could get 10 wide open shots, the odds are that they’re only making 3-4. If Boston makes 3-4 baskets in the paint during the same 10 possessions we only gain 3-4 points on the 10 possessions and still loss by 1.

I’d rather have the Kings have their post players attack the basket 10 more times. Even if they went 0-10, because that is the future of the team and at some point in time the Kings are going to need to learn to make high percentage shots late in games to preserve a lead.

Everyone’s heard the stat about how we lost so many games after having leads in the 4th quarter. But, do you know how we won the Hornets game when they put on pressure in the 4th. We made 5 layups on 4 assisted baskets and got one tip-in, in the final 6:30 of the 4th quarter. We missed every 3pt attempt. High percentage shots may not get you back in a game when your 15-20 pts down like 3pt shots can, but they will keep you in games and help you protect a lead in close ones.

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by HighTops on Feb 2, 2011 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

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