Michael Jordan Gets Bored, Possesses J.J. Barea For A Night
by Aykis16 on Feb 9, 2011 10:20 PM PST
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PrintAdd another disappointing loss for the Kings this year. This one didn't sting as much as the Utah game, but it still hurts.
This was just a weird, weird game (I blame the Grateful Dead). Dirk Nowtizki only scored 10 points on 4-14 shooting with 5 fouls to boot. Samuel Dalembert and J.J. Barea scored 20 each! In the same game! Peja Stojakovic went 1-7 from the field but had 5 assists in 20 minutes, the same total Jason Kidd had in 33. DeMarcus Cousins got ejected for walking backwards. Just some truly weird stuff.
But the end result was the same as the last time the Mavericks came to ARCO, a two point loss with some very poor crunch time decision making.
It's too bad too, because things got off to such a great start. Tyreke Evans was in a groove early on, just picking apart the Mavericks defense and putting himself well on pace for a triple-double, finishing with 8 points, 5 assists and 5 rebounds after the first. The Kings would take a 28-20 lead going into the second, but it was all downhill from there.
The Mavericks switched up to a zone defense to start the 2nd quarter and it completely threw Sacramento off, just like when Utah did it in the 4th quarter the other night. While Sacramento couldn't get anything going on offense, Dallas was taking it to the Kings, and in fact showing them exactly how to break down a zone even though the Kings weren't using one. Excellent ball movement from the outside to the inside and then back outside led to a lot of wide open threes, mostly for Jason Kidd, and he was knocking them down. The Mavericks went on a big run to end the quarter, including three three-pointers in a row to end the half with a 9 point lead.
The Kings eventually got back into the game, with big thanks to DeMarcus Cousins, Luther Head, and Samuel Dalembert. Cousins had a monster 3rd quarter after not getting anything going in the first half, and finished with 19 points and 15 boards.
Head came off the bench and provided a really nice spark as well, scoring 12 and playing some alright defense (it wasn't phenomenal).
Samuel Dalembert though was on another plane of existence. He started getting on a roll the way you don't want him to: by shooting fadeaway jumpers, and hitting them. His new nickname is "Oh No You Didn't" or ONYD for short, because that's what I want to say every time he shoots the ball. But there is no denying he was good, even great, tonight. He hit his shots, he got to the line, he rebounded. 20 points and 7 rebounds in 19 minutes for ONYD. That's just incredible stuff coming from him.
It wasn't enough though. J.J. Barea became possessed in the 2nd half, getting to the rack at will, no matter who was guarding him. He blew by Beno, Luther and Tyreke regularly. He and Jason Terry just wreaked havoc on the Kings defense, and Sacramento had no answer. Barea and Terry came up big in the clutch as well, both sinking huge three pointers late in the game to seal the win for Dallas.
Sacramento still had a chance at the end though. Tyreke had a very quiet second half after a phenomenal 1st quarter, finishing with just 14 points on 19 shots, 10 rebounds and 9 assists, and the ball was entrusted in his hands on the final play with Sacramento down two. Tyreke drove to the basket, straight into the teeth of the Mavericks defense, tried to draw contact unsuccessfully, and threw up a prayer that wasn't answered because God had used up all his miracles for the day on Dalembert and Barea.
What happened afterwards was unacceptable however. Tyreke simply sat on the floor, and the team wasted 8 seconds before fouling anyone. Jason Thompson was one of those who didn't foul for about four seconds despite having Dirk Nowitzki simply hold the ball in front of him. Thompson was in the game because DeMarcus Cousins had been ejected on a double technical with Tyson Chandler the play before. Neither player deserved a technical or said anything. But since it was Cousins second technical (he picked one up earlier for protesting a call that was rightly reversed) he got thrown out of the game. I doubt it made a difference, but the calls were still BS, and the crowd chanted so.
This was another tough lesson for the Kings to learn. At some point, inexperience can't be used as an excuse for all these close losses because there have just been so many to learn from.
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the most difficult thing about this loss....
is that I was amping up for some epic ftw GIFs….but alas
by larry_funderburke on Feb 9, 2011 10:23 PM PST reply actions
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Feb 9, 2011 10:29 PM PST reply actions 26 recs
And like Jerry says
“If Sign Lady says it, it must be so”
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by Aykis16 on Feb 9, 2011 10:31 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
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Thanks!
I felt this site was too devoid of the sign lady for too long
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Feb 9, 2011 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
Loved the cheer
Pumped up the crowd even after it was over
Never Turn Back - Crush 40
by raiderking21 on Feb 9, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
After Rekes last layup attempt that's what everyone was saying
And that's wassup.
by Sacramento_Strong on Feb 9, 2011 11:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Remember prowseinthehouse, with great power comes great responsibility
and this gif my friend, has tremendous powers.
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2011 8:49 AM PST up reply actions
I'm just gonna go ahead of schedule
and say we should trade Cousins and keep (enter name of next year’s rookie).
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"Jose Barea somehow scored 43 points and cured AIDS with this layup."
That is some funny shit Aykis.
This was Barea's night
Jason Kidd calls for the ball while it is in Dirk’s hands, then yells for Barea to come get it, he does and hits a 25 foot 3 pointer that was a back-breaker.
Maybe we can trade Tyreke for Barea
although we may need to throw in a No. 1. He plays awfully well for a mouse.
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It was Grateful Dead night
But the energy, spirit, and vigor of Kings fans tonight was far from… Dead.
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by Hit4TheCycle on Feb 9, 2011 10:37 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
I guess we aren't talking about it
The first rule is in force
by betweentheeyes on Feb 9, 2011 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
Sammy was Steve Nash efficient tonight
Weird.
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by CaliforniaJag on Feb 10, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions 7 recs
Every time I see this picture and you throw in what he writes, for whatever reason I start thinking about the guy in Kill Bill 2 doing lines of coke in the back room with the hooker
Kind of a piss poor job here but for whatever reason the line works.
(Here’s the clip I am talking about)
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2011 7:28 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Am I the only one who thinks of this picture every time I see his pic?
by HeuristicLineup on Feb 10, 2011 9:29 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
LOL
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2011 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
Now you're not.
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2011 10:06 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Things from the game
Disappointed by the loss, but the Kings competed to the end. It was also fun to be there on Slamson’s B-Day :D.
- The fouls called on the Kings, and the no-calls, were mostly BS (hence the chant at the end) but who knows if they would have changed the outcome of the game. The second tech on Cuz was horrible since they just got tangled up, and nothing malicious happened or was going to happen
- Barea is too quick for any of our guys, although it seemed like Pooh did a good job on him when he did guard him.
- That last play from Reke was deflating. He forced the shot and the crowd almost knew it was over. I almost felt like cursing there on the spot (and I would have had my mom, sister, and nephew not been there).
- Samuel Dalembert was on his game tonight. Even everyone in the crowd most of the time had the same reaction of ‘No, No, No… Yes!’ everytime he shot the ball.
- Peja has lost his stroke almost completely. He is still automatic from the line but his jumpshot was never on target. It was cool to see the crowd cheer him on anyway.
- Seeing Tyreke and his game, I never guessed he almost had a triple-double. It was such a quiet night for Reke that you kind of overlooked the stats.
- Half-court shot hit; nothing but net. ’Nuff said.
- The mascot’s made a great show tonight. They were pretty funny, and the halftime show was hilarious. Slamson is the king of the mascots, but I have to say Clutch the Bear from Houston is really great at his job.
Great night, hoped for a win, but got to see a great game. Maybe next time we will be able to pull it out.
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I'm almost thinking the ref didn't realize that was Cousins second tech.
by HeuristicLineup on Feb 10, 2011 8:16 AM PST up reply actions
That was exactly my thought as well.
He seemed a little sheepish afterwards when he realized Cousins was walking to the locker room. But as a ref they can’t go back on their initial call in those circumstances or they “lose face”.
I know we're gonna lose but I still think we're gonna win.
At the game
Unfortunately ruined by a couple of drunk idiots behind us looking for a fight. Sigh. Great game i suppose.
Report them
and ask to be moved. You might get better seats.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
We've been robbed on this game.
In my opinion, we should be celebrating right now. Nuff said! On to the next game!
My thoughts
Barea is the quickest guard off of a screen that I’ve seen all year.
Barea is better than Pooh
Terry is better than Head
Chandler got away with felonies around the basket
The Kid that won the car had a better 3pt stroke than anyone on the KIngs.
JT can make some of the most gawd aweful passes out of the high post.
Landry has no business defending Dirk or any other 7 fter
Dalembert even hit his heat checks
I thought it was a really good game except for the 2nd quarter, where Dallas’ small lineup ran us out of the game.
Things really went well in the 4th after PW went with Dalembert and Cousins, so well that the refs had to get Cousins out of the game to cover their bets. Say what you want about what a tough job the refs have, but when they call technicals for ‘respect for the game calls’ there is no consistency and it isn’t in the heat of action. It’s premeditated and personal.
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Good point about JT and his high post passes
I remembered I wanted to comment on that, because this and the last game he had some terrible post entry passes where guys have to reach out of their comfort zone to get, or not get it at all.
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The Sheed effect
I think that DMC is regrettably getting a reputation like sheed had where he would get T’d for stuff that most people dont
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by want2win on Feb 10, 2011 6:30 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Hmm... I don't know of a single Sheed tech that was unjustified
by HeuristicLineup on Feb 10, 2011 8:19 AM PST up reply actions
The worst part about it
Is now we’re gonna hear all the media frenzy say told you so, and all this, when they were both complete horse $#@% .
I mean especially that second one, I thought if anything he should of had the foul for the contact to the face (although Cuz milked it). That was terrible.
I mean a lot of Star players cry way worse when they don’t get a foul call and nothing happens to them. Then Cousins said that he didn’t get no explanation from no one for either tech. That is just wrong. Just another case of who is watching the watchdog!
Not saying it WOULD have changed the outcome, but it COULD have changed the outcome, since Cuz was on his game, and perhaps Tyreke wouldn’t have had to take it upon himself to drive through the entire Dallas team :p
There out of my system for this game!
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2011 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
I went to this contest
and I agree with many of you: I don’t know that had the officiating been different the outcome would have the Kings on top but the referees took over the game and that should never happen.
I consider myself a calm individual but I stood at my seat and shouted “Donaghy is in the building” at referee #8. The technical call on Cousins the first time was weak, the doulbe technical to get him out of the game with 81 seconds left in the game was deplorable, or as a certain Dead Head might claim “Hooorrible”.
The Kings and the end of too many 4th Quarters are just not yet clicking – no passing, no trust, little chance of wining.
As an aside, I think that Beno renting the Yeti to Dalembert was, as you say “weird”, Sammy was truckin’ like the doo-dah man.
by betweentheeyes on Feb 9, 2011 11:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I hope the NBA rescinds his technical
It wont change the outcome of the game, but it’s still the right thing for them to do at this point
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Feb 9, 2011 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
which one? they were both unnecessary
by betweentheeyes on Feb 9, 2011 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
The second one
The first one wasn’t as blatant. It goes along with the rules technically, but the issue we have is that it is not called consistently. I don’t see them taking that one back for that reason.
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Feb 9, 2011 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
I don't see the point in giving a guy a technical when he argues a call that's eventually reversed
The ref’s basically said “Yeah, you were right, but fuck you anyway!”
"What the fuck did I do?" - McNulty
I don't know if a bad call
warrants such a crazy reaction. It didn’t look so bad on tv, but I’m sure he deserved it. They gotta rescind the second one though, absolutely ridiculous.
I love DMC
but he acted like a 280 pound baby running around the court, of course he is going to get a tech. Its hard to know on the second one, as we dont know what he and Chandler were saying. It didnt seem like it was deserved, unless there was something said that we didnt hear.
by MichaelMack on Feb 10, 2011 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
I'm 100% certain the ref who called the Tech on the far side did not hear what Cousins/Chandler were sayings
Especially since there was a ref 5 feet from them who did not make any call on the play
by HeuristicLineup on Feb 10, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
wow
I just assumed it was the ref right in front of him. Tuuuurrrible call then.
by MichaelMack on Feb 10, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
The ref who called the 2nd tech was at halfcourt Mike.
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Yup and behind them, so he couldn't even have seen their mouth move
by HeuristicLineup on Feb 10, 2011 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
When watching the replays on tv
there was no lip movement at all between them. I think Chandler twitched and it made Cousins instinctively react by trying to get his face out of the way of Chandler’s elbow. The half court ref saw Cousins reaction and decided they were fighting.
I know we're gonna lose but I still think we're gonna win.
He tried to do the right thing.
Run away, his mistake was he turned around and pointed to the screen. Which ok he got the tech, but the like I said, so many other Star players do worse and get nothing.
Do refs get fined for making wrong calls? Do they answer to anyone in particular for their actions?
It’s sad, because it’s not the only sport refs seem to get away with murder.
one more thing
how many at the rim shots did DMC miss tonight? How many lose balls did the Kings just not pursue or not position themselves to pursue – that is a lack of experience and it is hard to watch sometimes
by betweentheeyes on Feb 9, 2011 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
I was also there
This was a terribly inconsistent officiated game. There were bad calls, bad no calls, and way too many late calls. For me, the first tech on Cousins was criminal. I was sitting not to far away from where the play occurred and you could plainly see that the ball went off the Mavericks. In disbelief, Cousins runs away from the scene of the crime and gets a technical. The call is justly reversed but Cousins gets a technical and the Mavs get a free point, for Demarcus being upset about a call that the refs admitted they got wrong. Bullshit…Bullshit…Bullshit
I don't want to see anyone hurt
but I was really hoping to see Cousins do one of these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5StMYTLIX4
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Simply put
Quick guards kill us.
And that's wassup.
by Sacramento_Strong on Feb 9, 2011 11:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions
speed kills
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2011 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
Having pro basketball players
who cant crack a zone defense kills.
by Fairwood on Feb 9, 2011 11:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
lol
very true
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2011 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
The funny thing is
Tyreke is suited to take out zones, if he would just attack before the defense gets set, but instead he opts to dribble around for awhile, negating his penetration effectiveness.
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2011 11:47 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
and for dog people
here’s a puppy chasing a laser in slow mo
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 9, 2011 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
kind of surprised this got 3 rec's
but damnit that cat looks like it’s having so much damn fun
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
*sigh*
i really really really wish tyreke wouldnt do that at the end of games… i know how he feels but…. even if there is a little contact he’s not going to get the call…. just…..just… commits suicide
same shit kmart used to do
soooooooooooooooo frustrating. YOURE NEVER GONNA GET THAT CALL, GUYS
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That metaphor got away from me.
Him sitting on the floor afterwards, DMC style
frustrated me as much.
I think Tyreke has many tools to become an elite player, but some of his actions worry me. He seems fully capable of making the same mistake over and over and over again, without adjusting even a bit.
I’m sure someone will point out that he was conditioned to take the game in his hands at the end of the game, and there is some truth to it. In fact, I think the coaching staff deserves some of the blame here. But if that conditioning argument truly holds up, what will happen if we do acquire a true PG? Will Tyreke be able to play off the ball, or will someone argue that he was conditioned to be effective with the ball in his hand? And how long will it take to unlearn these conditioned issues? One season? Two?
The guy has an instinctive feel or many aspects of the game, but you have to wonder at his BB IQ. The way he seems incapable to dribble the ball over halfcourt and instigate the offense sooner (unless he sees an opportunity at a 2-on-1 or even 1-on-2 fastbreak) is indicative in that regard.
Going back to coaching, here I get annoyed at how a double standard was used on this team since early last season, with Tyreke being able to play through all his mistakes, while guys like Omri and especially Donte got pulled out of the game for one blown defensive assignment. A guy that looked humble and very coachable coming into the league, now seems unacustomed to taking instructions which go against his views. But maybe that is just my perception.
If his end-of-the-game-decisionmaking does not improve until the end of the season, I think there’s going to be some kind of conflict. And maybe that will be for the better?
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by RikSmits on Feb 10, 2011 4:25 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Conditioning is easy
and so is re-conditioning. But it has to actually be done. Someone needs to sit with Reke and explain that when he has the ball in his hands in the final seconds defenses will collapse on him and he needs to pass the damn ball. Hold him accountable and teach him to make the right decision in those situations.
"What the fuck did I do?" - McNulty
I agree completely
but do you see significant improvement?
Either the sitting down and explaining hasn’t happened yet (which I find very hard to believe) or it hasn’t had enough effect on Tyreke yet. In the latter case, it is past time to start playing the accountability card, and play it hard.
I don’t even mind sitting him down in the last 3 minutes of a game while we’re protecting a lead. Not only his O, but also his D hasn’t helped us down the stretch of games.
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I'm not going to defend Tyreke's final shot choice, but
The guy missed a triple double by one assist, and he did what I’ve been asking him to do which is to get more assists in the paint. 6 of his 9 assists were in the paint.
We lost the game in the 2nd and 4th quarters. We had a 8 pt lead going into the 2nd, and still had a 6pt lead with 6:58 to go in the 2nd. PW went to the 3 guard line up to match Dallas, and Terry and Kidd took over and we ended up down by 9.
We go back to our starters in the 3rd and within 6 minutes we cut the lead to 2 and end the 3rd down by 1. Then in the 4th the Mav’s go back to the 3 guard lineup, and we match up. Terry, Kidd and Barea score every point in the 4th except 2 by Marion. Barea get 4 layups and a and1 in the fourth.
So, maybe Tyreke could have done something else on the last shot. But, it was our failure to adjust to the Mav’s guard play during the 2nd and 4th quarters that lost the game. So, what we really need to look at is our poor p&r and screen&roll defense, and our poor help defense. And, whether or not matching up our lineup to the Mav’s was the right call. It didn’t work in the 2nd quarter, and we didn’t make any adjustments to it in the 4th.
This to me is the bigger issue with this team then Tyreke’s shot selection.
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by HighTops on Feb 10, 2011 6:44 AM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Of course those are excellent points HT
But I think the worries that Rik was talking about was how many times have we seen Tyreke do the exact same thing as he did last nite. As closely as most of the posters on this board watch the Kings, I could not have been the only person hoping as the ball was inbounded that we ran an actual play, and feared a head down drive by Tyreke on that play, and was then unsurprised that it happened, and unsuccessful as that. Obviously the worry isn’t so much about last night, but is that going to be indicative of his decision making in the future. 4400 minutes into his NBA career, and already having been in that position many times, I hope for more.
by MichaelMack on Feb 10, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
You might not see growth like that until 9000 minutes in his career.
Just saying.
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by pookeyguru on Feb 10, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with Pooky, expecting Tyreke to be a crunch time closer in less then 3 seasons is unfair
As for last night he was 4-6 at the rim and 2-13 everywhere else and those have been his shooting numbers since he was drafted. Just playing the odds, a drive to the basket was his best chance of scoring. When he develops a short to mid range jumper, we can talk about what other options he has.
And, that was the play that PW called according to the post game press conference. So, he did what he was told and ran the play the best he could. Cousins was out and other than Beno, I don’t know anyone of the team that can run the offense any better than Tyreke.
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by HighTops on Feb 10, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I just put up a history poll.
I hope you enjoy it.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.
yeah I have to admit, I'm kind of amazed how much we're talking about the tech's and Tyreke's decision making
and not talking about Barea driving into the land at will. Or heck just running a different play that doesn’t involve Tyreke having the ball and driving into the lane with Chandler hanging out down there. I don’t get why we are projecting expectations on Tyreke that he has never really hinted at being able to meet on a consistent basis unless we’re just going off of the “He’s our best player and has experience thus he should be doing everything on the court now” logic.
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
er lane, not land
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
Was that directed at me Wally?
because I would like you to point out where I said he should be doing everything on the court
no it wasn't
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2011 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
and just letting you know but I never said anyone said that
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2011 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
Expecting him to be a crunch time closer
Is wanting him to look at options other than consistently driving head down into the teeth of a defense at the end of quarters and games. Its not an either/or proposition of horrible or perfect.
I see your concerns Rik Smits, and share them too
On the critical play of the game Tyreke drove right into the body of Tyson Chandler, and had no daylight to get off shot. It was a perfectly defended play by Chandler. It is almost as if Tyreke suffers from too much talent because he has in the past absorbed contact against a larger defender and made the bucket. Is there such a thing as a crisis of over-confidence?
I firmly disagree regarding Tyreke’s basketball IQ. It is very high. These are errors of aggression that can be corrected, individually and collectively. I feel like I can repost from a few weeks prior regarding the idea of a safety valve, or the trouble when a player leaves his feet in the lane without options, and the need to have a back up plan when there is no daylight to the rim. Exact same thing occurred in loss at Warriors.
Identical scenario from 4 weeks ago:
I get you cannot expect a 100% conversion rate, but Tyreke is getting into trouble way too much going to the hole. I can see it coming a lot of the time when he drives the teeth of the defense without a clear advantage. And he gets push off the direct line to the basket, and gets caught in a bad angle. There has to be a safety valve, that is find a teammate or keep your dribble, but Tyreke too frequently does neither.
I get part of what we are seeing is learning curve of a young player, but better coaching and decision making by Reke can happen now, not to mention 25 losses ago. Simple 5-on-5 math: If Tyreke is defended by 2 or 3, then teammate is defended by zero.
Primary Issues:
(1) Tyreke has ball-hogging tendencies. He does not trust his teammates. I am less concerned with what he may say into a microphone about playing unselfishly. Actions speak louder than words. I have seen spurts of unselfishness, but not enough.
(2) Teammates seem resigned to the fact when Tyreke drives they are unlikely to get the ball so do not work hard to get to open spots on the floor. They stand and watch and give up receiving a pass. A lack of leadership and communication seems fundamental, and both are lacking.
(3) PW and his coaching staff do a terrible job of designing play sets to create spacing and player movement off penetration. It has been a chronic issue all year and PW sits befuddled, bewildered, and bemoaned.
Speaking to point (2), we need to add players who move better off the ball, and complement the aggressive and physical style of Tyreke. With more cutters, and guys who dive to the basket, create space for themselves in the post or on the wing, Tyreke will be less inclined to take on two plus defenders at once. Athletic and talent upgrades at PF and SG in particular.
Ideal off-season or trade deadline additions: Iggy off the 76ers. Nene off the Nuggets.
Speaking to point (3), PW chose to forego a timeout with around 35 seconds to go and down by 2, after securing the rebound, leading to the desperate shot attempt. A TO would have been appropriate, to substitute offense into the game (Omri and Beno). Instead PW let the game play out without strategic guidance. I have been a little bit happier with Westphal lately, although his comment that a 5% improvement will lead to twice as many victories was ridiculous!
And as for not calling a timeout to reset, PW coaching grade in crunch time = FAIL. Passing on a timeout makes sense when the team is in offensive groove, and has scored on multiple previous possessions. That wasn’t happening. The Kings had missed four consecutive shots around 5 FTs in the last 4 minutes. Thats not much in terms of momentum. That’s time to signal a TO, regroup and plot your best play.
by bench_blob on Feb 10, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Kings jeopardy
A: “doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
Q: “What is Paul Westphal?” (we would also accept “Tyreke Evans”)
by lchristmas on Feb 10, 2011 10:45 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I think Tyreke's instincts
especially scoring, and his quick hands on defense, are rather exceptional. Can you give examples Blob of why you think his Basketball IQ is very high? It sounds almost like you are blaming the other players for his tendency to drive head down into the key at the end of games, unless I am misreading your post.
by MichaelMack on Feb 10, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Take another look
Although it resulted from a stupid lack of fouling right away – that should have been an 8 second violation. Replay clearly shows the ball in dirks hands at 13.0 and a foul is committed in the back court over 8 seconds later
by lchristmas on Feb 10, 2011 10:25 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I know the foul was at 4.something
So if he really caught it at 13.0 then ya, add that to the list of bad calls
by HeuristicLineup on Feb 10, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
I checked the official nba.com play by play
And it says rebound at 12.3 and shot at 12.9, which is funny because you can scroll up and watch the video which clearly shows the ball in the air at 13.9 at the latest and in dirks hands by 13.5
I’m sure that’s just a coincidence though and that the nba wouldn’t realize that an official play by play sheet providing clear irrefutable evidence that a game deciding call was blown would look bad and then doctor it.
by lchristmas on Feb 10, 2011 10:41 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Are you sure?
This thought occurred to me too, because the Mavs were spending a lot of time getting the ball across half-court.
But the 24 second shot clock was off, since Tyrekes miss occurred with 12 seconds left. I don’t think that the 8 second rule applies when the shot clock is off, because the refs do not have a point of reference, that is, the shot clock reads 16 (24 minus 8) to call the violation.
The refs would have to be aware of the exact second the ball was inbounded according to the game clock, and do quick mental math. That is asking a bit much, especially of a ref who calls double technical foul when two players are jostling for rebound.
By the way if there is any fairness by the league, the second technical against DeMarcus will be rescinded ASAP. And as penalty for incompetence the ref should have to listen to Christina Aguilera ‘sing’ national anthem 100X.
Refs count the 8 second rule manually
They mark each second with a hand count. You can usually see them do it on each change of possession as a player brings the ball up the floor. This is taught to referees who work at the high school level and used all the way up through the NBA, and I’m guessing the ref responsible for this task wasn’t even bothering. And it wouldn’t surprise me if the League officials doctored the paperwork so as to represent it “fairly”. But it doesn’t matter if Tyreke isn’t even going to try to pick his ass up off the floor and finish the game. I’m hoping these mental lapses aren’t a permanent part of his make-up and merely signs of needing to grow a little wiser. That was simply terrible….
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Time for Tyreke
to own up to his mistakes or PW or his brothers call him out for them
According to Westphal that was the designed play
Evans just needs to work on looking for his options.
by HeuristicLineup on Feb 10, 2011 8:23 AM PST up reply actions
instead of
looking for the refs to bail him out. And then how bout he pick himself up and help his team try to finish the game out properly. He simply did not give 100% hustle when we needed it most…
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Haven't had a chance to watch the game, but it sounds painful
I did get to read this recap. Aykis, it is a great recap.
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It was a good game to watch
only painful at the end really, along with the bad officiating, which as a Kings fan you should be used to.
Keep Jason Thompson out of the damn fruit salad!
by prowseinthehouse on Feb 10, 2011 8:38 AM PST up reply actions
Is it too late to change my "future of the franchise" tag?
DeMarcus Cousins.
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by caseycheesecake on Feb 10, 2011 7:20 AM PST reply actions
Yes, you made your bed now you have to lay in it. NO changies no take backs.
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Everyone would be riding Tyreke's nuts if he made that shot and got fouled
He’s won three games at the buzzer already in his young career, and has iced a few more in the final seconds.
Take the good with the bad, guys don’t hit 100% or even make the right decision a lot of times.
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by Aykis16 on Feb 10, 2011 8:16 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Ya, I'm still going to go with the guy who almost messed around and got a triple double
by HeuristicLineup on Feb 10, 2011 8:24 AM PST up reply actions
Haha true.
They’re both effing ballers. I’m just more excited with how Cousins is rebounding like he did in college again.
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by caseycheesecake on Feb 10, 2011 8:35 AM PST up reply actions
Rebounding from College to the Pro's for some reason seems like the easiest transition
by HeuristicLineup on Feb 10, 2011 8:44 AM PST up reply actions
not necessarily easiest, there's just a lot of correlation there
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah but we had so much fun building him up and acting like he's already an All Star last year and now your asking us not to tear him down?
Where’s the fun in that? I thought that was the point of the whole process? Now, excuse me while I write a fanpost about how DMC is going to be a combination of Sheed and Shaq so that by this time next year when he’s still DMC we can all talk about how erractic he is.
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2011 8:40 AM PST up reply actions
Three out of how many?
Another consideration with all of these “pray for a call” ill advised takes is the erratic ft shooting. At least when kevin martin did this you could be pretty confident he would make 2. Who has that kind of faith in tyreke?
In taking the good with the bad, id like to see a lot less bad. I cant believe that the tyreke take is STILL the go to play. Every. Single. Time. bad, bad coaching.
by lchristmas on Feb 10, 2011 10:02 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Why are folks so hard on DMC?
Seems to me that without him last night we’d have been out of the game early in the 4th. I like what I’m seeing from him so far from a basketball standpoint, and expect him to do something like sit on his ass for 5 seconds after getting hammered on his way to the basket wondering where the foul call is at. Unfortunately, that guy was Tyreke last night, and it may have cost us the game. DMC gives you near 100% while he’s on the floor (I say near cuz I definitely see him occasionally dogging it when he needs to breathe,) but Tyreke should be a little bit ahead of that curve being 2 years in. Very disappointed in how he handled the final minute of the game last night.
And DMC’s 2 techs were crap. Not much discussion needed there if you saw them in real-time. Kid is flat out balling right now, and I’m thoroughly enjoying it…
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by Aykis16 on Feb 10, 2011 8:17 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
At least until Washington comes into town Sunday
Then we’ll have the Futility Bowl with the Cavs losing streak vs. the Wizards road losing streak.
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he’s right
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2011 8:47 AM PST up reply actions
This game could be crazy
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Antawn Jamison and Rashard Lewis hugging and crying at half court, talking about how they used to be on contending teams. This may or may not be followed by them carrying out a suicide pact right there on the court.
This, of course, would all be Lebron’s fault
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and the player's union is to blame as well because Lebron wouldn't have done what he did if Cleveland only had a chance to pay him ... the same amount of money.
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2011 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
Seriously
It’s too bad they couldn’t offer him as much, or even a little more. Maybe even add in an extra year to boot?
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If only there some sort of collectively bargained agreement between the owners and the players
that would allow for that to happen.
If only.
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by wallywagon11 on Feb 10, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
I've been possessing Ramon Sessions last 5 games.
Don’t tell.
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by caseycheesecake on Feb 10, 2011 8:36 AM PST up reply actions
I'd give Tyrke a pass on the last play if
it wasn’t the same stupid, effin thing he does at the end of every close game. Same crap versus Utah. The opponents have him scouted and know there is no chance he is going to pass the ball or take a 15 foot jumper. No, instead he puts his head and shoulder down and throws up a prayer, generally comitting an offensive foul that thankfully doesn’t ever get called. It’s getting old because the outcome is always the same: Epic fail. Tyreke simply doesn’t have a versatile enough skill set to demand the ball every time in crunch time moments. I’d have much rather have had the ball in Beno’s hand to drive and kick or at the very minimum move the ball from one side of the court to the other in order to create space for an open shot. Check that: I’d have much rather have had a coach with enough sense to call a time out and actually run a play while at the same time telling his young start not to do the same ineffective crap he tried the game previously. Both Tyreke and PW own the silliness that was that lame attempt….
by Kusian on Feb 10, 2011 9:54 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Remember when Tyreke won the game against Denver last year by driving and faking the take-to-the-rack and hitting a little fadeaway in the lane?
He should do that more.
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by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 10, 2011 10:15 AM PST reply actions
Remember when Tyreke won the game against the Bucs last year by driving to the lane faking right and hitting the layup in the lane?
He should do that more.
by HeuristicLineup on Feb 10, 2011 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Remember when Tyreke won the game against the Grizzlies this year by drilling a half-court shot?
He should do that more.
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by CaliforniaJag on Feb 10, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Remember when Tyreke won the game
by drawing three defenders and kicking it out to a teammate who made the winning points?
I don’t.
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by RikSmits on Feb 10, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Remember when Tyreke won the game against the Wizards last year by stealing the ball from Gilbert Arenas, thus destroying Gil's career?
He should do that more… to Kobe
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by vfettke on Feb 10, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think what he needs to understand better
Is that he’s not always going to be able to finish at the rim. The end result is the same (2 points) whether you finish at the rim, hit a pull up jumper in the lane (a la Beno), or hit a floater (see Parker, Tony).
Right, that was my point, not to start a smartass contest.
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by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 10, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Good luck.
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My favorite part of last night's game
was a sequence, I think in the third quarter, when DeMarcus had gotten a rebound that he had to work for (and he always lets you know with his body language that he thinks he done good – went beyond his normal level of effort). Then he outletted to Reke who was eager to get the offense set up, but DMC was happy with his prior effort and was content to walk up the court – he was probably tired, too.
But here’s my favorite part: Reke hollered back at DMC to get his ass over halfcourt and set him a screen and DMC did hustle up and set the screen.
I really liked that. I liked DMC getting called out. I like that it was Reke that did it. And I like the way DMC responded.
I think it’s largely overblown, but it does make me wonder how much good leadership this team has. Surely it’s evolving.
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