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17,890 people at the Honda Center for the NCAA Tournament and who do I bump into?

So first things first. Sorry I have been in my cave. I have not posted in quite a while and although I have tried to read and keep up on what is going on with the Kings and the Arena situation, the topic has been too depressing for me to be glued to the news.

I definitely have an opinion on the Sacramento community, the Kings ownership as well as the so. cal climate and many times I have started to write but wasn't able to add too much original context so I would just erase and sigh and read someone else's thoughts and opinions that was a little quicker hitting the send button.

In quick summary it is bitter-sweet to have roots, family and friends in Sac while living down in Orange County and owning a business in LA County. Likewise it is a conundrum to hope Sacramento can pull out a hail maker while at the same time think about picking some seats out for next season at the Honda Center to watch the Kings.

Sorry to digress. One of my good friends from El Dorado Hills came down to the OC with an extra ticket for the NCAA Regional action tonight and of course I was elated to go. After the break I will quickly summarize the game and my half time conversation with Geoff Petrie.

Star-divide

Game I - Emotionally I was excited for San Diego State and the huge contingency that they brought against the UCONN Huskies. The Aztecs looked every bit as good as their rankings suggest save for the missed free throws and bad clock management late in the game.

In the end it didn't really matter because Kemba Walker had 22 in the second half and 36 overall with nobody able to stop him. He looked every bit a legit NBA starting point guard with his ability to nail several shots behind the arc despite hands in his face, create space and drain in the lane, or dump to the open man cutting to the basket. The isolation offense was taken right out of the NBA playbook and the kid just played out of his mind. HIs lateral quickness and explosive first step will certainly give him success at the next level and although like Tyreke he is not really an above the rim player, he got to the rim at will.

In the second game, Arizona practically lulled me to sleep with their ragged play ground play against a poised, deep, and defensively sound Duke team that just kept subbing in one great player after another in the first half.

The second half was totally different as Arizona got smart, played together, controlled the tempo, were patient and just manhandled a bewildered Duke team. Derrick Williams led all scorers with 36 points and was an absolute beast.  At 6' 8" and 241 lbs., he is all muscle and despite an awkward release was extremely deadly draining threes when he wasn't throwing down jams. With a 60% 3 point accuracy and extremely physical style player, Demarcus could learn a thing or to about how not to foul as Derrick didn't pick up his first foul until two thirds of the way through the second half.

All in all two fantastic games to watch but neither were the highlight of the night for me. Geoff Petrie was sitting 3 rows in front of me in Section 218. I saw him stand up at half time of the second game and decided I would see if he would hang out on the concourse during the intermission.

As is typical for Geoff, he was standing by himself, aloof and thoughtful. Although he checked his phone he had no one to talk to and basically positioned himself up against a wall between a large post so that he practically blended into the structural support.

He was wearing a nice light blue linen dress shirt and tan blazer and holding on to a long green umbrella--I assume because he wanted to be prepared if it rained despite the forecast.

I walked by him and after gathering my courage turned around and went up to him and said hello--introducing myself to him as a Sacramento native that lives down here in Orange County and thought it would be great to acknowledge his attendance and get his take on the games.

When I asked him who he liked he smiled as if to say, well I am not really sure I want to answer that so I clarified that I wasn't asking in terms of whom he is considering for the Draft, just who impressed him. For UCONN, he was high on Jeremy Lamb, the Freshman and of course commented that Kemba Walker was unstoppable and has really developed his game as he could not hit the ocean as a freshman.

In the second game he said he liked what he saw in Kyrie Irving from Duke and liked Derrick Wiliams low post game. He seemed like he was hesitant to talk more about his observations as he trailed off and so I switched gears.

I told him that I was a big fan of his and appreciated his commitment to the Kings organization knowing he had to take a pay cut to stay on and probably could have moved on to a larger market for more money. I respected the challenges that he has working with in an ownership that has little disposable cash, in a tough market, and with a facility that is obsolete. I told him that 2002 & 2003 should have been his years and it was nice to see his continued effort to get this team back there again and finish what he started. Geoff actually gave me a real nice smile and shrug and began to confirm that it is really a challenge to make moves, and lure recruits and free agents when they see the facility and know the Kings will not be the highest bidder. He elaborated about Power Balance Pavilion's deficiencies and seemed almost frustrated that he can't affect any change in that regard.

I felt like he was starting to open up to me at this point so I asked if he felt like something was going to get done in Sacramento. He looked at me with doubtful eyes and said that of course there are rumors about supposedly there is some money that has been found, he spoke pessimistically about the fact there is no approved project and no construction going on.

I told him that I thought Anaheim's facility wasn't much better as it is similar in layout in design except for a second row of suites and nice stone floors throughout the concourses. He nodded and said yeah its better but has no clue about the market down here either. I told him that with The Angels, the Ducks, the Lakers, the LA Kings, the Clippers, the Chargers, UCLA and USC, there are already so many options for companies to spend money on sports it is difficult for the Kings to develop a good corporate fan base to support them here. He nodded again and seemed discouraged but resigned to leaving that in the hands of the owners to figure out.

I complemented him on his recent picks and told him that the more the consensus feels he has picked the wrong guy, the more that pick seems to be well suited for us and how I really delight when he makes us all say huh?? I shared my affinity for Tyreke and Demarcus and asked his thoughts on his draft history in terms of which draft he wished he could have back. He chuckled and said he wished he could have a redo on Quincy Douby. He said in his defense he was really only looking for a solid outside shooter and thought Quincy might deliver that. He loves Rajon Rondo but didn't have much to go on from his college career.

I told him I was disappointed in how JT and Spencer Hawes turned out and he concurred that they are merely good role players really.

I asked if he was really close to pulling the trigger on a big trade around the deadline and he played dumb and denied knowing much in terms of any serious trade talks and of course I didn't want to pry.

He asked me where I lived and how I liked it down here and I shared how I felt it compared and then I asked him did he feel handcuffed in his ability to make deals happen or did he believe most of his peers seem to be in the same boat save for large market teams like LA. Geoff actually confirmed that he felt more constrained in Sac because of the market, the lack of money with the ownership right now and with the uncertainty of the teams geographic future. He pined for a time when he has some more freedom to bring in what he thinks the Kings need.

When considering the Kings future in Sacramento, he adding that it would be a real shame for the Kings to leave Sacramento.

We talked about a few more things and then I shook his hand, thanking him and told him that I occasionally blog on Sactownroyalty and hoped he enjoyed the second half.

He was more personable that I thought he would be and while he always seems content to be alone, I definitely felt like he was happier to at least talk about basketball with someone versus stand there by himself. I didn't see him to be too interested in the facility and he was stoic as he sat quietly watching the teams play very much like he does standing behind the basket at most Kings' games.

I just wonder if he looked around at all and said this might be my next stop. I hope they have good soul food here.

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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17,890 was the announced attendance?

That puts it at 102% capacity . . . sure didn’t seem like it on TV!! Probably because some people only showed up for one of the two games.

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by AndyHogan14 on Mar 25, 2011 12:48 AM PDT reply actions  

You couldn't buy tickets for just one game (except students?)

so yeah, it is definitely the combined attendance . . . I’d say there was probably 16-17k there for the first game and 14-15k for the second with a couple thousand going to just one of the two games.

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by AndyHogan14 on Mar 25, 2011 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Paid attendance I shoul have said.

Second half of the first game seemed packed and the second game downtrodden sdsu fans left.

Who cares what the attendance was btw. Small world was the point.

Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.

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by SactownheartOChouse on Mar 25, 2011 8:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Paid attendance I should have said. It was on the screen for only a few seconds.

Second half of the first game seemed packed and the second game downtrodden sdsu fans left.

Who cares what the attendance was btw. Small world was the point.

Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.

Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"

by SactownheartOChouse on Mar 25, 2011 8:16 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hmmm...

GP openly stating that he regrets drafting Douby, Hawes, and Thompson? That sounds strange to me. Actually GP talking candidly about anything at all sounds strange to me.

If the Kings leave, We all lose

by prowseinthehouse on Mar 25, 2011 1:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Smokescreen

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by Aykis16 on Mar 25, 2011 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

He diden't really say he regretted Hawes and Thompson

…just that they were good role players. At least, that was my take.

by markdog333 on Mar 25, 2011 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

He said Douby was his regret.

How they have fared as NBA players v. regretting drafting them is a different story. I didn’t get a sense that he lamented drafting the bigs.

Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.

Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"

by SactownheartOChouse on Mar 25, 2011 8:20 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

He said they were role players

which sounds right. It would be nice to get a starter out of a #10-12 pick, but you usually don’t. A lot of those guys don’t even stick.

So he got what you’d hope for – if not pray for.

"But screw your courage to the sticking place - and we'll not fail"
Macbeth Act I, Sc VII

by lietothegirls on Mar 25, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's right lttg...

He wasn’t disappointed in those picks, and resigned that they weren’t as good as some of his others. I was cool that he admitted at all that Douby was his one real bad pick.

Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.

Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"

by SactownheartOChouse on Mar 25, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahh

sorry, I read it the wrong way

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by prowseinthehouse on Mar 25, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Douby

What ever happened to him?Hawes seems fine in philly.he is going to play-offs.

by cowboyron96@yahoo.com on Mar 25, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Turkey, I think

"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds

by kingsfan300 on Mar 25, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where, not how

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by section214 on Mar 25, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey a turkey is really good

If you are bowling

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by prowseinthehouse on Mar 25, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny You Should Ask

He is KILLING it right now in the CBA (Chinese league). He is the leading scorer in the league and the best player on the best team (XinJiang) in the CBA. He scores 29 a night and his team is something like 31-1 right now.

I just watched him a few days ago in the CBA all-star game. He goes up nightly against point guards like Stephon Marbury, Lui Wei, John Lucas III and Rafer Alston. Steve Francis was in the league for a week and got kicked out of the whole league for flipping off the crowd after his second game.

Anyway, unfortunately he is experiencing his prime in the Chinese league instead of the NBA or Europe, but he is still ripping it.

by Travis Mays Hayes on Mar 28, 2011 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry bro

I meant to respond to Cowboy Ron. Stay awesome.

by Travis Mays Hayes on Mar 28, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figured as much

just giving you a hard time

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by prowseinthehouse on Mar 28, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm reading too much into it...
He loves Rajon Rondo but didn’t have much to go on from his college career.

Which player at this game doesn’t have much of a college career? Kyrie Irving….that’s why he was there…

by getPGwithbounce on Mar 25, 2011 3:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Ahem from Mr Pom, ESPN and me

TS% at Kentucky in ‘06: 52.6%. Ken Pom doesn’t have it available for the season, but after calculating his season stats, Rondo’s TS% as a freshman was 55.8. His Usage his sophomore year was 22.7%. In his freshman year, it was 20.2.

Now, on the other hand, Quincy Douby’s TS% in 2006 was 59.5%. His usage was 32.8%. In 2005, using ESPN again, Douby’s TS% was 50.3. (24.8 Usg—Ken Pom labels it as Poss—means the same thing as USG). In 2004, Douby’s Freshman season, his TS% was 57.6%. (Don’t know what his USG% was that year—and I’m not calculating it because it’s more complicated than TS%. Less than the year before. Likely somewhere between 18-21%.)

Stats may not be the story, but I’m not sure how Rondo would have fit with Bibby, Artest, Garcia, Martin and all that. Rondo does some things well (pass, defend), but there is more to the NBA game than that. When you’re a NBA PG, and shooting 54% from the FT line, you’re automatically on my over-rated and not worth it list.

Boston of course loves Rondo and, while they don’t love his FT shooting, they can live with it with 3 Hall of Famers still near their prime (or in Pierce’s case still a glimmer of it) who all have career FT shooting in the 80’s (Allen, Pierce and Garnett) or near it in KG’s case.

My feeling is that the “idea” of Rajon Rondo is far more pervasive than the reality of watching him and his strengths/faults play out in front of your eyes.

And just to add more salt to your wound: Perry Jones over Kyrie Irving even if Irving comes out. Book it!

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If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2011 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes Rondo's a crappy free throw shooter

But he’s an elite defender and playmaker that it overcomes it in my opinion. If his shot ever improves he could win an MVP one day.

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by Aykis16 on Mar 25, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha.

That ranks among the dumber things you’ve ever said. And I’ll absolutely be dumbfounded the day it “might” happen.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I'll have to add this addendum

I guess I’ll have to apologize because I didn’t realize MVP voters were that stupid. But, I should never underestimate the stupidity of the voters of awards.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I'll also add.

….that it doesn’t matter if you’re an elite playmaker or defender if you can’t hit FT’s. You’re a liability unless you play with 3 Hall of Famers near their prime.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's Aykis' point though
If his shot ever improves he could win an MVP one day.

I’d assume if his shot improves, it will be both from the line and from the outside.

I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints...

by otis29 on Mar 25, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Folks who hit mid 60's or below through their 5th year of their career don't typically improve.

Rondo would be one of the first.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Translating for pooke -

“Respectfully disagree.
Though anything is possible, I cannot fathom the possibility of Rondo one day holding the same honor that has been bestowed upon the likes of Russell and Kareem and Magic and Bird and Jordan. However, you have always been a learned member here whose opinions I highly repsect, so I will certainly take your comments into consideration. Be well, my friend. Live long and prosper.”

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by section214 on Mar 25, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ha!

not in a million years!

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by prowseinthehouse on Mar 25, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

I actually agree with Aykis…and think your anti-Rondo bias is blinding you.

I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints...

by otis29 on Mar 25, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you don't watch Rondo enough against elite teams where he doesn't carve them up because they all do the same thing.

They put somebody who can stop his penetration and dare him to beat them from the outside.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

They put somebody who can stop his penetration and dare him to beat them from the outside

Sounds like a certain Napg that resides a little closer to home

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by kangsfan on Mar 25, 2011 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd agree with that if Tyreke was in his 4th year and still shooting poorly from outside consistently.

Even then, Tyreke is already a 10% points better than Rondo for his career FT%. I would say the odds are higher Tyreke gets there on that alone.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Mar 26, 2011 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sheesh
If his shot ever improves he could win an MVP one day.

I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints...

by otis29 on Mar 26, 2011 5:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's in his 5th year.

When exactly does that ship sail on his improvement?

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Mar 26, 2011 6:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

If the argument is that Rondo won't develop a decent outside shot

Then you might find agreement. But that’s not the argument.

I’ll rephrase – if somehow, someway Rajon Rondo developed a decent touch from outside, do you think he would elevate himself into MVP consideration? I think you, Aykis and I agree that without it, he won’t.

I just can’t follow whether you’re disagreeing with Aykis or not.

I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints...

by otis29 on Mar 26, 2011 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's not a MVP candidate.

He just isn’t that good.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Mar 26, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's Jason KIdd, v2.0

Kidd’s career highlights:
10-time NBA All-Star: 1996, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2008, 2010

6-time All-NBA:
First Team: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2004
Second Team: 2003

9-time All-Defensive Selection:
First Team : 1999, 2001, 2002, 2006
Second Team: 2000, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007

2001-02: Finished 2nd to Tim Duncan in MVP vote, 954 points to 897.

Very few win an MVP award, so pookey is probably right in his assertion that Rondo will never win one. However, my bet is that he will (barring injury) have a career similar to Kidd (with the noted exception that Rondo has been on a championship-winning team), and his name will come up in MVP conversation at some point in time.

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by section214 on Mar 26, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's nowhere near the player Jason Kidd is.

And again, Kidd never had a consistent Jump Shot unless you count his much later years as a spot up shooter that is iffy at best.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Mar 26, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tony Parker was able to drastically improve his shot

years into his career. It can be done.

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by prowseinthehouse on Mar 26, 2011 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Geoff was talking about Rondo

When he considered the 2006 draft (I am guessing on the year) Rondo didnt have a body of work at the college level that made him an obvious choice.

Petrie liked Quincy’s shooting and though he was worth the potential upside-a gamble that didn’t pay off.

Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.

Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"

by SactownheartOChouse on Mar 25, 2011 8:26 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nice write-up

Dunking Dutchman - betting that Omri will have at least 12 games with 85% TS% this season.

by RikSmits on Mar 25, 2011 5:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks man.

Very tired, but thought it was too cool to not put out there.

Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things.

Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"

by SactownheartOChouse on Mar 25, 2011 8:27 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I felt like he was starting to open up to me at this point so I asked if he felt like something was going to get done in Sacramento. He looked at me with doubtful eyes and said that of course there are rumors about supposedly there is some money that has been found, he spoke pessimistically about the fact there is no approved project and no construction going on.

He’s not exactly going to go on & on against the Maloof’s or Henry Samueli/Anaheim at this point. He’s not a youngin’; he knows the deal. I don’t think he has one issue with staying in Sacramento if given his personal preference.

I agree about the market challenges of Anaheim/OC, and I’m curious as someone who is an Angels fan, why do you think the attendance has risen in Anaheim? Do you think the Kings have even a chance of succeeding as the 3rd NBA team in SoCal? Judging by your point about heavy competition for the sports dollar, and it will only get worse if there is a NFL team in LA by 2012 or 2013, I can’t imagine how anyone see’s Anaheim as a real positive at this point.

I told him I was disappointed in how JT and Spencer Hawes turned out and he concurred that they are merely good role players really.

That was their low end projections out of college. Playing on bad teams hasn’t helped. In Spencer’s case, his body not developing the way the Kings had hoped (they knew they were taking that risk—but in the 2007 draft, what other big had higher upside?) was probably the biggest reason he didn’t have a bigger career in Sac.

He chuckled and said he wished he could have a redo on Quincy Douby. He said in his defense he was really only looking for a solid outside shooter and thought Quincy might deliver that. He loves Rajon Rondo but didn’t have much to go on from his college career.

 I’d bet dollars to donuts that Geoff wished he would have known more about Paul MIllsap at the time.

Geoff actually confirmed that he felt more constrained in Sac because of the market, the lack of money with the ownership right now and with the uncertainty of the teams geographic future. He pined for a time when he has some more freedom to bring in what he thinks the Kings need.

I’m not sure this is the real issue. I’m sure a veteran would have been nice, but how many veterans will make Tyreke or DeMarcus take better shots? I think that’s one of those red herring’s Geoff Petrie is throwing out there to distract fans from the reality that the Kings are banking on the uncertainty of Reke/Cuz growing up and taking the franchise back to the promised land. The problem is that this is not a bad idea. The issue is that fans want certainty, and what in life, including the NBA draft and development of players, is a guarantee?

Good writeup SOCH. Hope your restaurant is doing well.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

If Omri has 12 games with 85+ TS% (20+ mins only) on the season, I will send RikSmits a slice of Cherry Pie with real Californian cheese pasteurized locally in Washington state.

by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2011 7:00 AM PDT reply actions  

In regards to Geoff and feeling constrained

I just have a feeling it’s more of something where he just felt like he just couldn’t do anything, like he just sat there and just wishes he could have at least done something. I keep thinking about that poster awhile back saying hwo Geoff was talking about “Maloof Money” over dinner.

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by wallywagon11 on Mar 25, 2011 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

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by pookeyguru on Mar 25, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

You make lots of points Pookey

Petrie would never throw anyone under the bus publicly. If I guessed what he feels based on my one conversation with him here is my take:

1 – He wants the Kings to stay in Sac
2 – He thinks the Arena deal won’t get done
3 – Power Balance is not a legit NBA venue
4 – Although he is not in favor of a move, his focus is on getting access to capital so he can work his magic instead of triaging gaping holes. If any deal empowers him to spend se money he wants that deal.
5 – The good years with the Maloofs are over. He specifically said he was worse off than almost all of his peers to make moves due to lack of money.
6 – Petrie would make moves to bring in all star caliber guys albeit with mixed baggage (Webber, Miller, Artest) to complement the young talent and not rely solely on development if he could spend money.

I wrote up a great piece a year ago on exactly why the Angels attendance is up and if my iPhone could easily link it I would.

In a nut shell you get a lot of value when going to an Angels baseball game, the product is always competitive and the ownership spends more than most in the league. The park is not state of the art but it is still top 1/2 in terms of overall amenities.

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by SactownheartOChouse on Mar 25, 2011 8:54 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I will repost the topic of Angels attendance in a new post...

It deserves some more inspection and focus than buried here…

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by SactownheartOChouse on Mar 25, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like the Maloofs should sell

or the league needs to change its model so small-market teams can compete if not owned by billionaires.

by LPKingsFan on Mar 25, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

exactly...

the NBA seems to be more interested in the 105th Lakers/Celtics finals than in small market competitiveness.

And I can’t exactly blame them. They are just projecting what the national audience wants. No matter how ridiculous Durant and Westbrook are, the finals will have a better share of the viewership (and will sell more merchandise) if they have a Lakers matchup with either Boston or Miami. Sure it makes for a crappy and unbalanced league where small markets take on Washington Generals-esque position within the League, but it keeps the cash flowing. Unfortunately, this mentality is what is going to hold the NBA back in the long run.

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by SactoRyan on Mar 29, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great write-up

Thanks for sharing. Thanks a million. Rec’d.

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by section214 on Mar 25, 2011 7:53 AM PDT reply actions  

What he said.

Hope all is well.

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by andy sims on Mar 25, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Section214, sorry I haven't had the time to contribute more, but always appreciate everyone here...

The funny awkwardness of the whole thing is I wanted to interview him and did share with him that I have blogged on Sactownroyalty but don’t think I could have pulled out my recorder on my iphone nor asked him for a picture as I think he would have been even less open.

I really liked talking to him and see he still has some fire for his job, but was impressed at how poker faced he was during the games watching everything, without taking any notes, just sitting there almost photographically soaking in the action and the players with razor focus.

I would have expected him to look around, checking out the digs more. So either he has already been given a tour or he is truly focus on the team and not the noise surrounding it.

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by SactownheartOChouse on Mar 25, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was the exact same way when I ran into Jerry Reynolds

And you know what – I think it works better with these guys when you keep the atmosphere casual. You are asking questions from a fan perspective and getting answers through that same conduit, which I think translates to everyone here better.

I’ll leave the heavy lifting to pros like jjham15. As a fan, I appreciate this perspective and can really relate to it. Thanks again!

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by section214 on Mar 25, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome! Rec'd

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on Mar 25, 2011 9:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Long time since I saw you MBS, hope you are doing well.

Thanks!

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by SactownheartOChouse on Mar 25, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hope all is well for you down there.

I have wondered how you are doing and wish you the best. Hope you visit your family up this way and can make a game sometime!

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by MustangMBS on Mar 25, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I went to three Staples Center games and hope I can make one more up there this year...

Sigh, if only it were for more than draft position…

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by SactownheartOChouse on Mar 25, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

JT and Hawes

It could’ve just as easily been a conversation about the Kings drafting Jerryd Bayless and Joakim Noah if the chips had fallen a little differently. Maybe in some alternate Fringe universe things worked out that way…It just goes to show that the man has had to make the best of the cards he’s been dealt. We can only imagine the what ifs so long before we talk ourselves into anything.

by #12Pick...who? on Mar 25, 2011 9:37 AM PDT reply actions  

I can only pray GP was there to get a look at Williams.

That would be a match made in heaven.

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by Scott Coleman on Mar 25, 2011 11:33 AM PDT reply actions  

since I was behind Geoff for the game I could only see his profile and never did he even crack a smile at William's heroics.

There were a couple of threes and a couple of dunks and hustle plays that looked Blake Griffin like and still he didn’t react. I was curious to see if he was (even as a fan of the game) excited at how Williams brought the whole partisan crowd to their feet! Perhaps he is already in stealth mode to ward away anyone that he too has a man crush. I

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Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt — When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults"

by SactownheartOChouse on Mar 25, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

does he ever show any emotion on his face? ha ha

It seems like he is stuck inside a perpetual poker game inside his brain. Either that, or he lacks the ability to feel real emotions and is locked in a constant state of malaise. Dude needs a vacation.

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by SactoRyan on Mar 29, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great write up!

I’ve been wanting to make it down to 33 Degrees for a Kings game. (As I live not more than 10 or 15 minutes away).

Do you still show most of them?

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by lifestyleforthesellout on Mar 25, 2011 12:20 PM PDT reply actions  

let me know when you are coming so we can watch a game together...

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by SactownheartOChouse on Mar 25, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome, thanks!

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by lifestyleforthesellout on Mar 25, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

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