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How much do we miss Tyreke?

Since “The Shot” the Kings have played 32 games starting on January 1st.    In the first 4 games of the New Year, the Kings had a defensive rating just under 102.0.   Then the Kings left on their 6 game East Coast road trip.   Tyreke missed the first 3 games of the trip (on 1/9, 1/11, 1/12) with a sprained left ankle and in those games the Kings had a defensive rating of 117.0.    On the last 3 games of the trip the Kings averaged 102.8.

In the 4 games prior to the road trip they had one game over their season defensive average of 106.   And, in the 6 game road trip where Tyreke was suffering from the bad ankle, they had only 1 of 6 games under 106.

Tyreke played the next 12 games and during that time the Kings had 3 games where their defensive rating was above 106; against the Spur 113, Dallas 110.9 and Utah 107.   Their average for those 12 games with Tyreke was 102.4.  Then on Feb. 13 Tyreke went back on the injury list and missed the next 10 games.

For the last 10 games the Kings have had a defensive rating of 113.6.    And in those 10 games the Kings have been under the 106 mark only 3 times.

In the 19 games that Tyreke has played in since Jan 1st, the Kings have had 6 wins or .316.   In the 13 games he’s missed they won 3 or .231.

 

In the 13 games without Tyreke the Kings have had a Defensive Efficiency of 113.3.   The pace has been 101.5 possessions per game.   And, 2 of the games have gone into overtime.          

In the 19 games with Tyreke the Defensive Efficiency has been 102.4.    The Pace was 97.7 possessions per game. And 2 of the games have gone into overtime.

So, How much do we miss Tyreke, well we look to be almost 10.9 pts per game worse defensively without him.   Of course, the loss of Cisco during 2011 has had a big impact also.   But, there is no denying that Tryeke's part in our defense scheme is surely missed.

 

Two other bits of statistical minutia, the Kings are 9-11 when holding their opponent to under 100 points.   And, the Kings are 12-14 when they outshoot their opponents in 3pt FG%. 




(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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We don't miss Reke

TOO much scoring wise cuz DMC and Thornton are filling it up, but if we can get Reke to come in and get 20-5-5 again we should win

by shadowchicken on Mar 8, 2011 6:19 PM PST reply actions  

I’m liking the way cousins is playing

by The Art Of War on Mar 10, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I have thought this same thing for a while

We miss him on the defensive end. Offensively as well, but the Kings are a much worse team defensively without him.

SOLID work!! Rec’d

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on Mar 8, 2011 6:49 PM PST reply actions  

Oh and welcome back.

Really missed this stuff.

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on Mar 8, 2011 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd kind of like to see the breakouts since Thornton arrived.

A ridiculously small sample, admittedly.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen. And for a limited time, every third person who follows me on Twitter (andy_sims) gets a free ice cream cone.

Which I will eat.

by andy sims on Mar 8, 2011 8:01 PM PST reply actions  

I'm here to service

In the 6 games that Thornton has played in, the KIngs have a pace of 99.7 including the overtime game with Utah.

For the season the offensive rating for the Kings is 100.2 (26th in the league) and a defensive rating of 106.3 (19th in the league). During Thorntons tenure with the Kings the Kings have an offensive rating of 100.6 and a defensive rating of 113.1. The offense is within the norm based on the small sample size. The defense is much worse than the seasonal average but within the norm for games missed by Tyreke which is 113.3 and the offense for the 10 most recent games missed by Tyreke is identical at 100.6.

Overall based on the small sample size I’d say that he’s neither made a positive or negative impact on the teams performance

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by HighTops on Mar 8, 2011 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope this teaches you to not leave your account open where people can get at it.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen. And for a limited time, every third person who follows me on Twitter (andy_sims) gets a free ice cream cone.

Which I will eat.

by andy sims on Mar 8, 2011 9:34 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Stay away from women! All they want is their man juice!

"DeMarcus pounds, like the hammer. Tyreke slashes, like the sickle.
For the good of the proletariat!" - tomroadrunner

by Ice_9ine on Mar 9, 2011 7:28 AM PST up reply actions  

*your man juice!

"DeMarcus pounds, like the hammer. Tyreke slashes, like the sickle.
For the good of the proletariat!" - tomroadrunner

by Ice_9ine on Mar 9, 2011 7:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Great write up

I think Reke gets lazy or loses focus on D at times, but this just goes to show his importance there and what an asset he is. When he’s healthy next year, he can be a beast on both sides of the ball.

Rec’d

by SPTSJUNKIE on Mar 8, 2011 10:39 PM PST reply actions  

Agreed,

But I think it’s what he brings on the offensive end that helps the defense. He very seldom gets his pocket picked leading to break away fast break points. And, his offense while sometimes predictable allows the other players to get back on defense. Plus he seldom puts the ball in one of the bigs hands when he can score himself, and that means fewer turnovers by the bigs.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
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by HighTops on Mar 8, 2011 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be interesting

to test your theory a bit and look at TOs in games he plays versus games he doesn’t. Assists too considering how much people question the ball movement when he plays.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Mar 9, 2011 1:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Small Sample size since Evans only missed 2 of the first 28 games and 13 of the last 32

But, I can tell you this. We have the 5th highest turnover rate in the league at 14.3% for the entire season. In the last 10 games while Tyreke has been out, the Kings have had only one game with a Turnover Rate below 15.5%.

I can’t give you the average because there not adjusted to a base number. They are just turnovers / possessions, and as such you can’t sum and average averages. And, I don’t have the actual numbers per game. I might be able to get them tomorrow. I can tell you that the majority were closer to 18% than the 14.3% seasonal average.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Mar 9, 2011 6:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Beno

is one my favorite Kings players but he might be the worst defender in the NBA. He gets burned on almost every play. I hope we start Tyreke and Thornton together and Beno comes off the bench.

Oh, and Tyreke is a good defender not because of his effort. He is long, big, and fast and naturally that makes offense difficult for most guards in the NBA.

by dmblair921 on Mar 9, 2011 7:02 AM PST reply actions  

Great writeup HT

As much as people want to harp on Tyreke’s passing (or lack thereof) he is obviously the best player on our team, so having him go down hurts a lot. I think that once DeMarcus gets his head on straight and gets some more experience, he will actually be a more dominant player than Tyreke, but the pair of them makes me really anticipate the future. Still holding out hope that I’ll get to watch them grow into the league together right here in Sacramento…

by rpmonkey on Mar 9, 2011 7:57 AM PST reply actions  

Has anyone

heard of how his treatment went yesterday? Reason I ask is he’s sitting on my waiver wire in my fantasy league, and playoffs are next week. Wondering if I should swoop on him.

by Dub_TC on Mar 9, 2011 8:19 AM PST reply actions  

Reality checks are rather necessary.

Thanks HT.

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by pookeyguru on Mar 9, 2011 8:39 AM PST reply actions  

Tyreke is Lazy on D I agree(This season)

Just watch sometimes at the end of close games, when he really buckles down on defense- he’s an awesome defender. I think he’s kind of pacing himself this season durig games, His Plantar fas, i believe takes alot of blame.

by sacman on Mar 10, 2011 10:18 AM PST reply actions  

I can't wait till he comes back

The Maloofs will always be some playas, Geoff Petrie can neva be a hata, Chris Webber will always be a playa, Mike Biiby can neva be a hata, Vlade Divac will always be a player, Doug Christe can neva be a hata, Bobby Jackson will always be a playa, Peja Stojakovic can neva be a hata, White Chocalate will always be a playa, Rick Adelman can neva be a hata, Pete Carril you know he's a playa, Kevin Martin can neva be a hata, Omri Casspi will always be a playa, DeMarcus Cousins can neva be a hata, Tyreke Evans now that's a real playa, THE SACRAMENTO KINGS NOW THEM SOME REAL PLAYAS!!!!!

by slamson on Mar 10, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

One thing we really miss with Tyreke

Is that he’s really the only guy we have that can consistently create in isolation. Often times guys who can’t create often end up having to try, leading to turnovers and terrible shots, and therefore breakouts

by Scirocco on Mar 11, 2011 9:03 PM PST reply actions  

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