What We Talk About When We Talk About Ron
by rbiegler on Apr 15, 2011 5:02 AM PDT
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Print“Today we spell redemption R-O-N.”
- Wes Mantooth, Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy
- Luigi Bertini, Via Text Message Earlier Today
The problem with writing a reflective piece about an event as it’s actually happening is that you’re never really allowed time to contextualize. Alternatively if you wait to contextualize your reflections may have all the relevance of an According to Jim joke. It may take days, weeks, months, years before we fully understand what today’s Ron Burkle related revelation means to the city of Sacramento and its sports franchise long-term. In the short-term, however, we know exactly what it means, relief, hope, and vindication.
Sacramento is a city of two distinctly different identities that never really comfortably syncopated, despite much of its population suffering from the split personality. On the one hand there is the city best known both at home and abroad as the cowbell clinging hinterland of California. A city much more closely aligned to the sturdy values of the Midwest than the wild free spiritedness of the left coast. A place of people with big hearts and bad fashion sense. We have, perhaps to our detriment, appropriately, affectionately and unapologetically embraced this image. If these last few months have shown us anything it is that despite our disappointment at effectively being told we are no longer good enough as a city to have a professional sports franchise we collectively never exhibited an inferiority complex. It is laudable.
Admittedly I secretly had an inferiority complex. It bothered me a bit that much of the mainstream media did not seem nearly as interested in the Kings departure as they did that of the Sonics. Now to be sure most of this was owed to the manner by which the Sonics were stolen from Seattle. But some of this I probably irrationally suspect comes from people’s perception of Sacramento. The idea of moving your team from one of the country’s most beautiful, culturally diverse city’s seems blasphemous. Moving your team from Sacramento to Orange County, alternatively, seems inarguably logical. An upgrade in almost every sense; geographically, financially, culturally.
Sacramento is considered a working class town. And it is. But it is a white collar, not blue collar, working class town, and this is an important distinction. Our factory, our big business, is public policy, and as a consequence our city isn’t just populated with civil servants, it’s populated with lobbyists and elected officials and their chiefs of staff and consultants and public relations professionals, the type not customary to cow towns. After Washington D.C., and perhaps New York City, Sacramento is the most important political city in the country. Now yes, many of the people who occupy the aforementioned professions are neither natives nor fulltime residence. But they eat here, drink here, sleep here and think here and they lend to the city an understated, underappreciated, even by its residents, sophistication. This is a town of both sturdy values and wild, free spirited ideas.
The Maloofs never really understood that Sacramento and why should they have? They had no real reason to. They understood Chuck Peterson’s Sacramento. A Sacramento that has more or less ceased to exist in the wake of the real estate bubble burst. They never understood Steve Maviglio’s Sacramento. The resilient, responsive muscle that is forever twitching.
Ron Burkle understands that Sacramento. It’s the only Sacramento he knows. The Sacramento of the capitol and CalPERS and Mercury Consulting. The little city where big decisions are made.
Kevin Johnson also understands that Sacramento. I have never fully agreed with the Mayor’s attempts at making Sacramento a destination city. We will never be a place athletes love visiting during away games, but if Chris Webber’s emotional commentary during Tuesday’s TNT broadcast is any indication it is a city athletes, much to their surprise, love living in, and isn’t that preferable ultimately anyway? However only a person with ambition, with connections, with a mindset that transcends the petty, nimby neighborhood name calling that has for so long handicapped local politics, could pull what Johnson did on Stern. The City Council may not have approved the Mayor’s Strong Mayor bid, but today in Midtown Manhattan, in one moment of transcendental leadership, he proved he is indeed a strong Mayor.
And so it seems poetically appropriate that our fate and faith now is not in the hands of a pair of indifferent brothers, nor other owners with their own agendas, but instead in the hands of two people that understand Sacramento. People that understand that the differences between Sacramento and Anaheim are more than just a more lucrative TV contract and luxury boxes. These are the people we want and need fighting for us. Because these are the only people that can.
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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Quite frankly, this is one of the best reads I’ve seen at StR in some time – and that’s saying something.
Quality stuff, rbiegler.
Burklemaniac
by otis29 on Apr 15, 2011 5:30 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Absolutely.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Apr 15, 2011 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Raymond Carver and Anchorman in the same breath?
That’ll do, Bieg. That’ll do.
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by Juan Primo on Apr 15, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
This.
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Why the hell aren´t you in NYC right now?
Yahoo today said this
The Sacramento Kings may somehow survive. A new bid for ownership has arrived from two men who have no desire to move the team to Anaheim.
The Sacramento Bee reports that California native Ronald Burkle, who owns part of the Pittsburgh Penguins, and Sacramento developer Darius Anderson “emerged as last-minute potential saviors of the NBA in Sacramento.” The pair are heading up a group that will try to buy the Kings from the Maloof family and keep them in Sacramento. If that fails, Burkle is already “exploring three or four other NBA franchises as possible candidates for purchase and relocation to Sacramento,”
by chenp22 on Apr 15, 2011 6:01 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Great Read
Must say, Having an ex NBA playing Mayor really does help. I heard he paid for the trip to the BOG out of his own pocket. His ability to talk to David Stern and others in high places is a great bonus.
IMO He also is a stand up guy.
I was watching a council session where , what appeared to be a SacBee commenter made some comments during the public comments section where he mentioned “the Magoofs” about 3 times and said something to the effect of “Let the door kick you on your way out” . Mayor KJ said “thank you for comments” after he sat down, he said something to the effect of, “May I remind people to be respectful in their commentary, here in council”
Maybe thats everyday council talk, but it seemed like more to me.
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by Travis Mays Hayes on Apr 15, 2011 6:34 AM PDT reply actions
off topic
does anyone have a link to that Tesla song with Kings memories Grant and Jerry announced? doesn´t seem to be on Youtube
i think someone fanshotted it. check it outtaaaa
"Contraction, I didn't say anything about contraction. I'm talking about shrinking the league." - Lebron James
"We're talking about Kwame Brown, who cares?" - Stephen A. Smith
Everything about this move seems so wrong
And everything about these new developments seems so right. I’m trying to not get my hopes up too high but I’m not in despair like I once was.
I love beating dead horses.
by allbenji's on Apr 15, 2011 7:06 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Go to Peach's twitter page and it is on there
The link was about the fifth or sixth tweet down early this morning. The first few are Iphone versions.
Two things:
First, I love KJ’s move yesterday. From the fact that it didn’t leak and was a complete shock to everyone, to the fact that this move was essentially him nailing a game tying shot then proceeding to do Sam Cassel’s big ball dance.
Second, I love that you have a friend named Luigi. There are not enough people in this world named Luigi
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by vfettke on Apr 15, 2011 7:18 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Third
We just need Mario Elie’s kiss of death to the maloof’s plans of relocation.
"Contraction, I didn't say anything about contraction. I'm talking about shrinking the league." - Lebron James
"We're talking about Kwame Brown, who cares?" - Stephen A. Smith
KJ's move
I think its also brilliant that Mayor Johnson made a point to address the BOG in a manner of “we’re not trying to block the move, we’re just trying to show that Sacramento is a viable NBA city”. I think that if he came across as trying to block the move, the owners would be less receptive to what he has to say, since they would sympathize with fellow owner’s (Maloofs) rights to move their team.
And then after presenting his case about Sacramento being a viable NBA city, the owners are presented with a case that there definitely is an alternative to moving the team…Lloyd Grief in Sacbee was quoted as saying:
“Burkle is saying, ‘Maybe they (the Maloofs) couldn’t afford to keep (the team) here. I can afford to keep it here.’ "
put me in, Coach
by LaBradford on Apr 15, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
meant to say
the owners go from taking a hard look at whether Sacramento is a viable NBA city to taking a hard look at whether the Maloofs are viable NBA owners
put me in, Coach
by LaBradford on Apr 15, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
That's been some pretty good jiu-jitsu...
…most of the talk leading into the BOG meeting was regarding Sacramento’s unviability as an NBA market. Now a lot of the spotlight is being shone on the Brothers Maloof and their viability as owners, and they’re sweating a bit.
Me likey.
Those who walk on eggshells rarely leave footprints.
by SierraSpartan on Apr 15, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Whoa.
Well put. Very, very well put.
by ivan209 on Apr 15, 2011 7:19 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Next Season's home opener
Let’s go Burkle!
clap-clap-clap-clap-clap!
"Keep a positive outlook, even when things are looking bleak. Remember, nothing is impossible."
This is fantastic.
I think part of what makes the Burklebomb so spectacular is that he is in so many ways the Anti-Maloof. He is a visionary, a “big picture” guy, capable of understanding and working through complex scenarios to find the overall best solution. Someone who understands what investment is all about. The Maloofs, on the other hand… have not shown those abilities.
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by AnotherStupidSN on Apr 15, 2011 7:40 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
But they wear their caps backward! RAD!
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by andy sims on Apr 15, 2011 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions 9 recs
The NBA doesn't want to toss an ownership group out the door so noticeably..
….but they probably are not happy with the Maloof’s handling of the franchise in the last 5 years either.
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by pookeyguru on Apr 16, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bravissimo!!!!
This is perhaps the most astute and perspicacious (how’s that for a ten-dollar word?) distillation of the Maloof’s involvement in Sacramento. The difference between they and Burkle is like the difference between Warhol and Picasso. The Maloof Brothers apparently lack the business and social acumen to manage their affairs.
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by Natomaser on Apr 15, 2011 7:54 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
i get what you're saying
but Warhol was brilliant at what he did. hmm, maybe a different comparison for the Maloofs? otherwise, good point. : )
put me in, Coach
Yeah, I'd go with Picasso and my 5 year old niece
Her drawings are pretty good though.
by Kfan in Korea on Apr 15, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn that was awesome.
If only it was longer, not like it needed to be though. I love reading your stuff rbiegler.
"That might've been a little push, but that was a major flop. That would make Vlade Divac very proud." - Jerry Reynolds
Clearly Burkle would not get involved in this unless he has had convos with KJ and leaders that an arena deal can absolutely get done.
by VirginiaKingsFan on Apr 15, 2011 8:03 AM PDT reply actions
If Ron Burkle can somehow save our kings...
I will give him my unborn and not yet conceived daughter’s virginity.
Ew...
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by Exhibit G on Apr 15, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You would pimp your daughter for a basketball team?
by Slam_Dunk on Apr 15, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
i was trying to think of a Jerry Buss, Jeannie Buss, Phil Jackson joke...
but nah, forget it.
put me in, Coach
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That this putrid comment couldn’t kill this thread.
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The system was corrupt!
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by caseycheesecake on Apr 15, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll admit
I laughed – never heard a compliment like that before.
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Very well done!
Great read, rbiegler…a nice take on a complex situation. Absolutely rec’d.
And thanks for a little more insight on KJ—I haven’t always been his biggest fan (as mayor—loved him as a player!), but I’m pretty impressed that he kept this under wraps while taking plenty of criticism. Wouldn’t want to play poker with that guy.
KJ to Maloofs on the poker table with his poker face on...
KJ: “I see your Samueli and I raise you a Burkle!”
put me in, Coach
by LaBradford on Apr 15, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
If you type in "poker face" in google
all you get are ads for the Palms
If the Kings leave, We all lose
by prowseinthehouse on Apr 15, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't want the Hornets or Grizzlies to move here...
I WANT MY KINGS!!!
maybe we can have all three teams here
i mean, shoot. LA is on the verge of having 3 teams.
put me in, Coach
by LaBradford on Apr 15, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kriedler on the RISE GUYS JUST SAID
Maloofs are trying to file for another EXTENSION?
by Scott Section 213 on Apr 15, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Now they are the ones that need to send it to overtime
We may have a one point lead and they are at the line to shoot one. Crowd is going crazy though
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
I just heard this too
Good news, right? It means they can’t get the votes they need and want more time to lobby owners. If they were going to file for relocation, it would be because they felt they had enough support. I am guessing they don’t!!!
"The Spurs subliment their statistics for the good of the team" Kings Coach PW.
Great Read!
This is from @dbienick
#Maloofs just came out of hotel, very upset about idea of selling #sackings. Gavin #Maloof: “Tell Ron Burkle to go back to where he came from. We’re not selling.”
And more from @dbienick
Maloofs say on Monday deadline to file relocation application, will ask #nba for more time.
Kriedler said..
…you don’t file UNLESS you have the votes. THAT MEANS THEY DON’T HAVE THE VOTES RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Scott Section 213 on Apr 15, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why ask for another extension?
Does this mean they don’t have the support they want? Will they even RECEIVE another extension?
I can’t believe they are actually asking for another one…
And he is riding the Rhino.
Or frog or swordfish.
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by caseycheesecake on Apr 15, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Donkey-Kong kill screen coming up...
If the Kings leave, We all lose
by prowseinthehouse on Apr 15, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
i love it. spoiled crybabies just got called out by someone with a bigger pile of money and an actual brain
writings on the wall
RISE THE HOT BURKLE
by lchristmas on Apr 15, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And more...
This seems like a long shot to me, but the Maloofs are saying this:
George Maloof said they could still move #sackings to Anaheim in time for next season
@dbienick...
Not sure I believe anything the Maloofs say at this point.
#Maloofs said buyout offer is “just talk” and “hogwash”, said they’ve never been approached.
For those of you on Twitter
Tryin to get #herewestay to trend. Let’s make them hear us!
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David Stern Press Conference in 15 minutes!
"The Spurs subliment their statistics for the good of the team" Kings Coach PW.
Its on NBA TV
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by lietothegirls on Apr 15, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Apparently the Maloofs were trying to lobby the other owners
and whatever they heard prompted them to ask for another extension. Good news all around!!
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
George: “Hey, I was wondering …. would you approve a move to Anaheim?”
Owner: “No”
George: " ….. what if I gave you a few free Ed Hardy shirts?"
Owner: “………. No.”
you have to hear it in your mind in that dumb maloof voice - i don't have a font for it
like a drunk guy bumming a cigarette at the craps table
“oh hey guys…”
by lchristmas on Apr 15, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
After the Maloofs comments today
Hard to imagine them coming back to Sacramento as owners of the team at this point.
Burklemaniac
Which is a win all around
Mmmm winning!!!
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
duh!
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by caseycheesecake on Apr 15, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I think that was kind of a dig at the Maloofs
and the fact that they haven’t really been concerned with putting a winning team on the floor the last few years.
and it´s true
also I take it that Anderson actually brought Burkle into this. Thanks for that
makes sense since him and Burkle are such good friends
and business partners
only if Anderson and KJ have talked
for 4 months, I think it shouldn´t have come this far.
you still need capital
Burkle might have just given his commitment a few months ago. Plus the Maloofs have always said they have no intent to sell. Anderson is also intimately connected to the ICON group.
they've said repeteadly that getting out of the NBA when they had the Rockets
was one of the worst decisions they felt they ever made. I don’t think it shows they aren’t willing to cooperate necessarily just that they aren’t going to give up their prized asset.
About the 4 months...
If this is a battle to keep the Kings in Sacramento then perhaps announcing the Burkle news 4 months ago might have given the Maloofs, Anaheim, Samueli, et al more time to sharpen their pencils and present a better plan of attack than the (per David Stern) ‘incomplete’ one presented at the BOG. I think keeping the Burkle approach in the Sacramento Region’s back pocket was a brilliant move. Clearly the Maloofs were dismayed and are scrambling to get their ducks in a row.
On a side note, I think that the Maloofs must really look like they have no clue how to adequately run an NBA franchise to their fellow owners. These guys cannot seem to get out of their own way.
I just renamed my kids Burkle, Burkle, Burkle and Ron.
tsk tsk
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by caseycheesecake on Apr 15, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Purple tie; you know he is committed
Kwill: Walton said Casspi has a lifesize poster of himself he brought into the locker room.
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by sac_faithful on Apr 15, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks Lotus
wouldn’t have seen that otherwise. Serious people. Show the Maloofs a little respect (very little) and then cut them off at the knees.
Translation: Ron Burkle is a winner, your boys the Maloofs are LOOOOSERS!
"It ain't Chinese algebra" - Tony Allen from Basketbawful
Kriedler said it best.
What did the Maloofs think or expect? They played hardball, so KJ did too.
by Scott Section 213 on Apr 15, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
lol I love it
I think the Maloofs thought they had all the control and it was going to be easy … Burkle changed everything (for now.)
If they maloofs told Burkle to go back to where he came from...
Isn’t that pretty much Anaheim? Burkle’s from California!
WTF?
News10_CA News10 – California
Maloofs say that the team is not for sale for any price. Also stated that Sacramento would not get another team if the Kings move.
Burklemaniac
I don't know how they could even say that
they have little influence over that.
The more emotional they get
The better for us. This is how they’re gonna come off in front of the owners. Hahahaha!!
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
by edm7 on Apr 15, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They are so painfully unaware of how to speak in public as business owners
They probably think they are lashing out at KJ and the city, but it’s coming out as a reproach to the people of Sacramento. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Burklemaniac
I'll accept an apology from you anytime..
…in terms of my treatment of the Maloof’s. :)
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by caseycheesecake on Apr 15, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
The Maloofs start to panic as they see their plans start to unravel
Prior to KJ’s masterful presentation at the BOG meeting the Maloofs/Samueli had to feel like they held all the cards, after KJ flipped over his pocket aces, not so much.
The Maloof/Samueli group figuratively thought they had Sacramento and Kings fans over a barrel and were acting like if we were nice they might give us a little lube before they put it to us. Now they are starting to realize that they might not make it out of the room alive.
If Samueli (and I’m guessing he’s very smart) he will disassociate himself from the Maloofs and look to put a group together to possibly bring the Hornets to Anaheim, that is, if it even makes sense to bring a NBA team to Anaheim after paying Buss/Sterling their relocation fees.
I would love to see a leak from a highly placed source in the NBA say something like: “highly placed sources at the BOG meeting speculated that combined with the NBA’s relocation fee the cost to the Maloofs will likely well exceed $100 mil and the Commissioner’s office will make fully paying off existing loans to the City of Sacramento a condition of approving the move.” Kiss of death.
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by Bluejohn on Apr 15, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I now think it's a (near) lock that the fee will be very, very high
No where close to $30 mil.
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by lietothegirls on Apr 15, 2011 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree that it won't be $30M
in fact, I believe that the real reason that they extended the deadline again is because they couldn’t give the Maloofs a figure in time for them to apply for relocation by this Monday.
"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
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Yeah! Ah ha!
You know who he is…
We got Burkle, we got Burkle, we got Burkle, we got Burkle!!
by Go_Kings on Apr 15, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Little
by little they are revealing who they truly are and it’s looking that heartless pricks.
I don’t want that to be true because I like the image of them courtside cheering along side all the fans but seriously all the stuff recently is like, ’da hell man, ’da hell?
I think what we are learning
Is that they were never one of us. SACRAMENTO Kings fans. They are fans of the Kings because they own them. They were there cheering because any success the Kings had was their success. Not the success of the city of Sacramento.
by StevenG on Apr 15, 2011 10:23 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
the only thing they can do is spitefully vote no against any future relocation or expansion to sacramento.
which isn’t a) likely to matter b) even likely to be their concern. they’re just spitting on us now.
I think there is a lot of misconception on what they meant by that comment.
They can’t possible think that they are in any position to block some other team from relocating here. They are foolish but not idiots. I believe that they believe that because they weren’t able to prosper here, no one else will either. Which is why they want to relocate in the first place.
The difference between the Clippers attendance and the Kings over the last 3 years varied from 2500 per game to 3800. Using $50 per seat, that roughly $9M per year in the worst case. The TV deal is rumored to be in the area of $30M. So, it’s not about selling out or the fans not being good. It’s about advertising and corporate sponsorship which is something that they don’t ever see being big here. Of course, that’s going to be true with every small market team, so their trying to beat the system put in place by the NBA where the big get richer and the small go broke.
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Even if
the Kings still move …. I love that Burkle is stressing the Maloofs out like this. Now you know how we feel, Maloofs!
Seriously
They are getting beat at their own game. What the hell did they expect?! We’d roll over and let them ride away in the night with OUR team.
by dampania on Apr 15, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes that's what they expect.
that’s what most people expected.
The City Council may not have approved the Mayor’s Strong Mayor bid, but today in Midtown Manhattan, in one moment of transcendental leadership, he proved he is indeed a strong Mayor.
Indeed!
by Ichiban on Apr 15, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
After this
recent news and the Maloofs reaction and Burkle Burkle Burkle all I can think is,
That’s Why They Play The Game, Folks!
by iddu on Apr 15, 2011 9:48 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Interesting, or is this a troll?
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David Stern would love to have guys like Ron Burkle in the club. That was a smart strategy by KJ, knows how the League works.
Burklemaniac
He's a troll in the sense that he's a parody account
But he is also someone who is in the know and has said stuff before that has come to fruition.
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Oh, it's on
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by Aykis16
Executive committee did not take a straw poll on whether Maloofs have votes to move to Anaheim. Owners want time to digest Burkle proposal.
Burklemaniac
by otis29 on Apr 15, 2011 9:52 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
If anyone's link starts working please post
Nothing yet
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Don't ever underestimate the ability of the NBA to pull some underhanded shit
they may not be able to force the Maloofs to sell but they can “force” the Maloofs to sell. They’ve done it before.
News10_CA News10 – California
Quote from George Maloof, “We need more time, I don’t think it’s going to happen on Monday.” #news10 #kings #herewestay
Burklemaniac
by otis29 on Apr 15, 2011 9:54 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Just FYI
From I get on twitter, looks ike Stern will approve deadline
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
HAHAHAA
News10_CA News10 – California
Quote from George Maloof on Burkle’s plan, “I think it’s hogwash, it’s just words.” #news10 #kings #herewestay
Burklemaniac
by otis29 on Apr 15, 2011 9:55 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh yeah George... Your face is hogwash!
by Ichiban on Apr 15, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's good
like when the maloofs bros say they are very upset faker fans were in their seats and this and that and yeah yeah yeah, all i hear is hogwash what a coincidence
the more these idiots open their mouths the better for us
i don’t think id hire any of them to be a night manager at a taco bell. its amazing that they haven’t gone bankrupt yet
the lights are on and the roaches are a’scramblin
#YOUGOTBURKLE?
i think it'd be awesome though if you did hire them to manage a taco bell
i’d love to walk in there and order a 7-layer burrito, turn around and slam it down on the counter and tell them I’m taking my business elsewhere.
put me in, Coach
How does it feel?
Once upon a time you dressed so fine
You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn’t you ?
People’d call, say, “Beware doll, you’re bound to fall”
You thought they were all kiddin’ you
You used to laugh about
Everybody that was hangin’ out
Now you don’t talk so loud
Now you don’t seem so proud
About having to be scrounging for your next meal.
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be without a home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone ?
You’ve gone to the finest school all right, Miss Lonely
But you know you only used to get juiced in it
And nobody has ever taught you how to live on the street
And now you find out you’re gonna have to get used to it
You said you’d never compromise
With the mystery tramp, but know you realize
He’s not selling any alibis
As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes
And say do you want to make a deal?
Princess on the steeple and all the pretty people
They’re drinkin’, thinkin’ that they got it made
Exchanging all precious gifts
But you’d better take your diamond ring, you’d better pawn it babe
You used to be so amused
At Napoleon in rags and the language that he used
Go to him now, he calls you, you can’t refuse
When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose
You’re invisible now, you got no secrets to conceal.
How does it feel
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone ?
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Which I will eat.
by andy sims on Apr 15, 2011 9:58 AM PDT reply actions 6 recs
Per CBS
Third owner told CBS that there is a ‘bias’ on BOG against relocation for Kings
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
by edm7 on Apr 15, 2011 10:00 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
you don't relocate a team when there's a billionaire owner willing to buy them and get them an arena
in the city where they currently are located.
Press conference starting now!
"The Spurs subliment their statistics for the good of the team" Kings Coach PW.
Anyone who is watching the press conference
TELL ME WHAT HE SAAAAYYYY My internet is such epic fail I can’t stream it
by LightningStrike5 on Apr 15, 2011 10:01 AM PDT reply actions
Ohh shit
Clay Bennet is the new relocation committe chair
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Oh, hell. I went "BENNETT?!?"
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Which I will eat.
extended to May 2nd.
per fact finding on the Burkle proposal.
Burkle to keep Kings in Sac?
If Stern doesn’t think PBP suitable for Maloofs to remain, then doubt he would be favorable for Burkle plan to keep Kings in Sac or any other team to come to Sac, unless he is a hypocrit.
Why him?!
"Keep a positive outlook, even when things are looking bleak. Remember, nothing is impossible."
Incomeplete documents from Anaheim
They dont have their shit together
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
FACT FINDING MISSIONS?!
BENNETT?!?!?!?!?!?!
by LightningStrike5 on Apr 15, 2011 10:04 AM PDT reply actions
FUCK. Clay Bennett is the chair. I don't like that.
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if anyone knows about relocation
it’s Clay Bennett
God DAMN
Anyone but him….. ANYONE BUT HIM!
by LightningStrike5 on Apr 15, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude that moved Sonics to OKC.
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hey they said if things went well
they´d file by Monday. they will not file by Monday
MAY FING 2nD?!?!?
GOD MOTHER &$^%^&#%^$^#^# DAMN IT
by LightningStrike5 on Apr 15, 2011 10:04 AM PDT reply actions
18 more days of this
God damnitttttttt I can’t take this anymore
by LightningStrike5 on Apr 15, 2011 10:05 AM PDT reply actions
Relax this is good news
"The Spurs subliment their statistics for the good of the team" Kings Coach PW.
Logically, I know
I just can’t take more of this
by LightningStrike5 on Apr 15, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Certainly is
The fact that KJ is being taken extremely seriously – to the point that the relocation committee is going to make sure they can deliver what they’ve promised – is excellent news.
Now the question is, does KJ & Co. have everything dialed in?
Burklemaniac
At least Buss is on that committee.
as well. Bennett could’ve been voted chair since he knew the most about relocation. Waaa waaaa.
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damnit
now he is talking about securing the future of the nba in new orleans
This could have good and bad implications for us.
Good: Burkle and his group can get something together.
Bad: You know.
"Keep a positive outlook, even when things are looking bleak. Remember, nothing is impossible."
damnit
saying they are not forced to stay in sacramento and that they moved the hornets in a blink of an eye before cuz a the hurricane
Stern: May 2nd deadline in no way prevents the Kings from being able to move for next season
Burklemaniac
Terms of the move to Anaheim were not sufficiently clear to the owners group
MaLOLoofs!
Burklemaniac
Haha, Maloofs knocked over a tray of food when May asked his question.
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Did that guy really think a May date would keep the,!?
by LightningStrike5 on Apr 15, 2011 10:09 AM PDT reply actions
Maloofs made committee go "HUH? WHAT?"
“Can you say it in your big boy words?”
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Just say Burkle's name, Stern
SAY IT, B@ITCH. SAY HIS NAME.
by LightningStrike5 on Apr 15, 2011 10:11 AM PDT reply actions
Thinking exactly the same thing.
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Which I will eat.
"That's not in our order of priorities"
Getting a billionare in your little boys clubhouse ISN’T a priority? Yeah right
by LightningStrike5 on Apr 15, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, he doesn't want to needle the Maloofs any further at this point
He’ll “Fredo” the Maloofs down the road.
Burklemaniac
It's a whole family of Fredos.
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Which I will eat.
Man, Stern is a dick.
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Damn
Stern is so sarcastic and jerky to Sacramento
Sacramento
stealing the show all the questions from Sac! HERE WE GO TO NEW YORK AND BOTHER STERN!
Stern: "What? Why is Sacramento so interested in this?"
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Which I will eat.
Key words out of Sterns mouth
Bennett will lead fact finding mission to determine whether certain representations made by the Mayor of Sacramento about availability of certain inducements to cause the team to stay can be reduced to certainty…
Translation: In Major KJ latest press conference he stated in the last two to three weeks $7,000,000 in corporate dollars as new revenue stream were committed for 2011-2012. Bennett and Co. need to confirm these are real dollars.
"The Spurs subliment their statistics for the good of the team" Kings Coach PW.
Stern said they thought it was 9 million...
…but, that’s a good thing. Stern also mentioned the lease document was very hard to understand.
by Scott Section 213 on Apr 15, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
They knew who that guy was, had to break up all the Sac reporters
by DirtyDribblers on Apr 15, 2011 10:14 AM PDT reply actions
I thought he looked really bored talking about the Anaheim presentation
they don´t have their shit together
Switched the subject to draft
"Oh boy! If you don't like that you don't like Kings basketball"-Peaches
So...
How should we be feeling about Burkle?
by LightningStrike5 on Apr 15, 2011 10:18 AM PDT reply actions
I still want to clean up after his miniature pet giraffe and fan him with palm fronds.
We’re feeling good.
"He forced it to go in the net, and that's a good thing."
-Jerry Reynolds
by Juan Primo on Apr 15, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Man Twitter sure is blowing up with all this
I can barely keep up reading it, love it
Fry - "I'll be whatever I wanna do."
********************
Tobias - "I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
Michael - There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence
*********************
Somebody enlighten me
What’s the deadline for that feasibility study by Taylor/Icon?
"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds
Didn't they stop work until they found out if the Kings were, in fact, moving?
by LightningStrike5 on Apr 15, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
well and they can't complete the feasibility without knowing how much the Maloofs actually have
which the maloofs won’t tell them
No, they kept on
but there was no rush on their part.
I’m thinking now they will go back to working hard on it
Fry - "I'll be whatever I wanna do."
********************
Tobias - "I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
Michael - There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence
*********************
Well it got slowed down
but sometime in May. I’m pretty sure the BoG “fact-finders” are going to be talking with Taylor/ICON more closely.
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Good stuff.
"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds
by kingsfan300 on Apr 15, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought it was the 18th now
"But screw your courage to the sticking place - and we'll not fail"
Macbeth Act I, Sc VII
by lietothegirls on Apr 15, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Kriedler
Says Anaheim proposal “not fully understood” by committee. That, plus the Burkle factor AND renewed local corporate interest, did the trick.
No sponsers and especially no TV contract
"But screw your courage to the sticking place - and we'll not fail"
Macbeth Act I, Sc VII
by lietothegirls on Apr 15, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Remember when the deal was done
and they were just trying to get people in the building…..
Yeah…. deal done, huh?
#here we stay
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
by edm7 on Apr 15, 2011 10:22 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Our work is not done
We are going to keep working and fighting that “mythological fight that wasn’t going to do anything and was just wasting everyone’s time”
"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims
Like Carmichael Dave said
THIS IS NOT OVER.
It’s WAR.
by Scott Section 213 on Apr 15, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Definitely. Here We Stay has been amazing. Thank you, Ed, Tom, Blake, Aykis, CD, et al.
KJ deserves more than a little credit too. A lot of people here questioned his “willingness to fight.” The gloves came off yesterday.
"He forced it to go in the net, and that's a good thing."
-Jerry Reynolds
by Juan Primo on Apr 15, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep, I was one of those people
He landed a haymaker yesterday. Props to the Mayor.
Burklemaniac
by otis29 on Apr 15, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Me too
I was so tired of the ‘Maloofs have to make a business decision crap’ but
it probably played just right along with a Burkle in the hand beating a bikini waxed Anaheim bush.
"But screw your courage to the sticking place - and we'll not fail"
Macbeth Act I, Sc VII
by lietothegirls on Apr 15, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Stern sounds like an ass on the radio
Fry - "I'll be whatever I wanna do."
********************
Tobias - "I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
Michael - There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence
*********************
truff
but he especially sounds annoyed and he keeps pointing out how much of a Sacramento presence there is there.
Clearly he no likey
Fry - "I'll be whatever I wanna do."
********************
Tobias - "I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid i have something of a mess on my hands."
Michael - There's just so many poorly chosen words in that sentence
*********************
A horse's ass, specifically.
"He forced it to go in the net, and that's a good thing."
-Jerry Reynolds
I wonder if when the BoG talks to Taylor/ICON
They say “well this is how we could build an arena, and we don’t know how much the Maloofs would give us since they haven’t told us, but this Ron Burkle guy has pledged $100 million if he were the owner… and we could easily get that done”
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My crappy, non-factual conspiracy theory.
Maloofs traded a 2002 Sacramento Championship to Stern for the ability to move the team to Anaheim.
urkle Mania
Naw! Stern just took it because he likes the Lakers more.
Part of the perks of being the leader, with refs as his henchmen.
wooo
thanks new york!
but wow stern you are such a punk and a dog
So
it’s time to give KJ credit. I didn’t think him going to NY would do anything, but it sure as hell did. Great job, Mayor.
Stern: "PBP inadequate due to much-delayed maintenance."
Well, who the fuck owns it, asshole?
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by andy sims on Apr 15, 2011 10:26 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Easy.
Joe and Gavin can say that Sacramento owns it. The Maloofs just get every penny of every event held there, but they don’t technically “own” the building because of the $75M loan/bond/bailout, or….
Shit. Where’s Wally when you need him?
Those who walk on eggshells rarely leave footprints.
by SierraSpartan on Apr 15, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
So Stern is mentioning the focus on Sacramento is mainly the arena issue.
"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds
This is like a Meg Whitman press conference from last year.
“I just want to talk about the things that make me look authoritative, not the stuff that makes me look like a billionaire-stroking douchebag. NO MORE QUESTIONS.”
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agreed
He just keeps bringing it back to the arena issue, but its so much bigger than that now. Seems like an easy talking point where the city can be blamed for the team wanting to leave.
"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."
Yeah
he is dancing a dangerous line because the maloofs are moving to an 18 year old arena that in as little as 5-10 years might be facing the same type of questions regarding new renovations again! or a new facility not to mention the immediate need for a practice facility
Yeah
Sacramento with a tough question…three teams in so cal…
Stern says he believes LA can support three teams.
F that mess, where is Buss in this?!
by LightningStrike5 on Apr 15, 2011 10:31 AM PDT reply actions
He doesn't say he wants that though
And I don’t think other owners really do either.
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KJ is epic.
This isn’t just saving a basketball team for the basketball fans in Sacramento… this could change the city drastically if he is able to save the team… a new arena, entertainment complex for international-scale events, huge revenue for the city, massive national credibility, and if Burkle is involved, we have someone who rubs shoulders with the most important people in the world hanging out on J Street and sitting courtside.
I went from being pissed at and disappointed in KJ
to thinking he’s a badass. All this fight our community has put on will make us all proud regardless of what happens. KJ gets free drinks from now on in our city.
RT (Regional Transit)
Would also get a big boon from this. They already have lightrail extened to the railyards…….. That’s how I would go to the game for SURE.
That is exactly how I would go too.
Funny thing though, that is seen as a big fat negative for the Maloofs
Live every week like it's Shark Week.
by wallywagon11 on Apr 18, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
He could have
easily said that an extension cannot happen…especially with the labor negotiations and all that.
but no, he gave it to them.
Part of me wants to get excited but another part of me saying why would he give them another extension if he didn’t want them to go.
ah! i don’t know what to think!
Listen to that first part of you.
"He forced it to go in the net, and that's a good thing."
-Jerry Reynolds
"Another Sacramentan"
Stern just hates us.
"Oh boy! If you don't like that you don't like Kings basketball"-Peaches
Fuck Stern in his Fuckhole.
Did he expect the people around here and just roll over and die for the Greater Glory of Anaheim>
Up his ass with a rabid porcupine.
Those who walk on eggshells rarely leave footprints.
by SierraSpartan on Apr 15, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Carmichael Dave must be dancing right now.
to me this means they now wanna see if there´s a strong will to really build this bitch. If so and the money is in place, there´s no approving the move. am I wrong here?
You might be wrong, even if logically you shouldn't be.
I don’t think Stern feels it’s his job to fuck Sacramento and its fans, merely one of the perks of the job.
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Which I will eat.
@mcuban
Carmichael Dave says we need to adopt an undecided owner today. For today, it’s MarK Cuban.
by Scott Section 213 on Apr 15, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
It's all about an Arena Plan that has legs now
I think Stern was pretty clear about that. I hope it’s long nights, coffee and other stimulants for those working on it.
"But screw your courage to the sticking place - and we'll not fail"
Macbeth Act I, Sc VII
Taken on a literal basis...that is what Stern said.
He may have just used this to further his support of the Maloofs’ move to Anaheim, irrespective of an his feelings of an arena. Politically better to say the arena is inadequate than to say, I am in favor of more money for the Maloofs and NBA. He knows it will take years if not decades to get a new arena in place. He could have one foot in the grave by then. He is just placing the blame on Sacramento, IMO.
He's also not thrilled with Honda Center
and I think VERY concerned about a 20 year lease in an old and small building.
The Maloofs are creating just another Arena problem for 5 -10 years down the road.
"But screw your courage to the sticking place - and we'll not fail"
Macbeth Act I, Sc VII
by lietothegirls on Apr 15, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
NOW WE BURKLE!
Stay Thirsty My Friends
WONK
Etymology - origin unknown
Function - Noun
Definition - A person preoccuped with arcane details or procedures in a specialized field; broadly, NERD; especially someone young who focuses on one topic or subject to the near exclusion of all other topics.
A Biegler read is truly like no other.
Fucking rec’d hard.
#HEREWERON
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
New at the Kings Store -
The Burkle Burqa.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Apr 15, 2011 2:16 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
New at the Kings concession stand -
Burkle Brickle.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
by section214 on Apr 15, 2011 2:20 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Billionaire Butter Brickle is my fav.
Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile
I can't believe I never noticed that "mal oeuf" means bad egg in French.
You can look it up.
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by andy sims on Apr 15, 2011 8:07 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
wonderrful piece of writing.
Thanks rbeigler.I enjoy not just what you say, but how you say it. Rec’d.
Thank You for explaining it so clearly Rob.
Bravo sir.
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