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Why I have Hope...

The past few weeks have been a rollercoaster, and I wanted to jot down a few thoughts in the wake of the BOG meeting.

First off, I was elated (just like everyone else) with the news of Burkle being on board and with the decision for a stay of execution by Stern.

Then, when pouring over the details of the meeting, I was admittedly was very frustrated with the comments made by Stern when he dismissed Burkle and a new ownership as being not a "high priority" at this point, and stating quite clearly that we had failed miserably at getting a new arena built.


And, when Clay Bennett was appointed the head of the relocation committee and Jerry Buss was removed from the committee entirely, I became clinically depressed.

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My thinking was that we (and by "we" I mean KJ) had put forth a great proposal, and the basketball Gods (that have been so unforgiving in the past) were again conspiring against us.  We had done everything we could to show we were a great basketball town, and it didn't matter. The OC had the corporate base and a more lucrative TV contract, so it didn't matter if your fan base was passionate. It didn't matter that we mobilized the "Here We Stay" movement so quickly and effectively. All that mattered was that we didn't have a new arena and, thus, we were screwed. Not only did LA break our hearts in 2002, but they were going to steal our team. Bastards!

But then I listened to the Rise Guys interview Sam Amick this morning, and Sam said something that made me stop and reconsider. He said the commissioners actions and comments on the surface didn't make sense. Case in point, downplaying Burkle (i.e., he's not a big priority, when billionaires obviously are always a big priority), and stating that if the move to Anaheim made sense, it didn't matter what the Lakers and Clippers thought (when obviously, it matters a great deal what the Lakers and Buss thinks). He then proceeded to say that if they vote down the move, the Maloof's would  have a field day in court if it looked like the league was keeping them from moving and hadn't explored and exhausted every option.

Therefore, there is two ways of looking at the proceedings: One) That Stern is stacking the deck against us by putting Clay Bennett on the committee, and acting less than interested in Burkle's involvement, or Two)  that he is creating the appearance that the league gave the Maloof's every opportunity to get this move completed for the sole purpose of protecting the league in court.

I think Stern is very smart and very calculating, but I don't know if he is this smart and calculating. Obviously though, the Bennett move (and Buss demotion) seems very political and overtly Pro-Maloof, so much so that it raised eyebrows all over the Internet. However, it certainly takes away the argument (if an Anaheim move is turned down) that Buss railroaded the process. Also telling is the fact that Buss didn't make a peep about the switch. Lastly, I love the body language of the Maloofs as they tried to leave the BOG meeting. It was apparent they were annoyed, pissed and flustered (as they struggled to find their car). I would love to know what was said inside those closed doors to "the Boys."

I may be reading way too far into this, but I think the Bennett appointment could be a positive, and this is Stern laying the groundwork for a "no" vote.  It would be great if the league decided to give up on the Maloofs as owners rather than Sacramento as a basketball market.

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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Anything good from the Amick interview? Any inside tidbits on Burkle, or Webber, or the mood of the BoG?

Also, I’m a bit confused about how the Maloofs could take the NBA to court if the relocation is voted down. It’s obviously in the NBA’s bylaws that any relocation has to be approved by a majority of the board. If a majority of the board does not approve the move, for clear reasons (market infringement and/or not wanting to leave the Sacramento market at this time), isn’t that a fairly black-and-white process? It sounds like you’re saying that Amick thinks the NBA needs to build a solid case for turning down the relocation?

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by AnotherStupidSN on Apr 18, 2011 9:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Again (and it's making me a little nervous) I'm with Wally on this

The NBA has their processes in place and if a majority vote the relocation down I don’t see what the Maloofs could do about it.

Dr, Buss is the one who I see having an actionable cause if the BOG relocation committee approves the move and assesses the typical relocation fee of $30 mil. If Buss truly has a television contract whose value is reduced by 10% amounting to somewhere between $300 – 500 million if a 3rd team moves into the media market and the relocation doesn’t award him a huge relocation fee he will have no choice but to sue.

The players CBA has language that the players have to abide by which can roll back the value of their signed contracts because the CBA is the governing document. I’m sure the franchise contracts the owners have to sign contain similar language.

I can see two “if’s” that could make the move to Anaheim somewhat moot. The first “if” would be that if the revenue sharing the league adopts is robust enough to alleviate the financial concerns of the Maloofs and other small/mid market owners, then it may make it difficult for them to get their move approved. I think there is good reason to believe that the big media market teams may be willing to give up a good chunk of change to maintain their territorial integrity.

The second if, when combined with the first could stop the Maloof’s move in it’s tracks and that would be is that there is a real local plan with financing actually in place to build an arena regardless if it’s occupied by the Kings or not. If Stern can be assured that the arena will be built I think the Maloofs have almost no chance to win approval.

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by Bluejohn on Apr 18, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I was trying to get at

is regardless of whatever contracts or bylaws that exist, there are some really tricky agency/partnership laws that make the league suing a team or a team suing another team extremely complicated. It’s a rather big unknown in professional sports.

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by wallywagon11 on Apr 18, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could see the LA teams having standing to sue (as we've discussed before)

They can show immediate and obvious damages. That 75 mile ‘rule’ has never been tested to my knowledge.

I gather that NY isn’t hasn’t challenged the Nets going to Brooklyn but I may look it up and see if there’s any info on a relocation fee there.

"But screw your courage to the sticking place - and we'll not fail"
Macbeth Act I, Sc VII

by lietothegirls on Apr 18, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't even worry to apply the Knicks/Nets thing either way. Technically the Nets jumped into the Knicks market back when they joined the NBA.

I would agree with you just from giving a quick glance on what you need for standing and what not but the fact we are talking about a sports league does somewhat change things to be honest. And it’s really complicated, so much so that I am kind of scared about even trying to type about it without more research on the subject.

At the risk of sounding like a dumbass because this stuff is difficult and I am shooting at the hip … All I can really say at this point is if it went down this road, Maloof Sports and Entertainment would likely argue they own the Kings as an independent business whereas the league or other teams trying to enforce a heavy “territorial rights” fee will argue it’s merely a franchise of the league and they must operate under the contracts and bylaws established under the joint venture (basically how Burger King corp probably won’t allow a second Burger King to put in across the street from another Burger King).

However, unlike the MLB, the NBA (and NFL and NHL) has limited antitrust exemptions so it could technically be pretty darn difficult to force an owner to not move under that type of arguement. Furthermore, retraint of trade claims are often frowned upon in court (although it is nice to have such a clear example of damages).

Only twice has an owner forced the issue and it was Al Davis and Donald Sterling. Everyone thought they were crazy for doing it but hey Al Davis won and Sterling and the NBA ended up settling out of court (I know San Diego and LA are close but technically it was actually infringing on the Lakers “territorial rights” at the time and it was a contentious issue between the two franchises). Heck, technically speaking we are not even sure if MLB (the one league with the anti trust exemption) would even win in court if they tried to force a team not to enter another team’s territory. I really think it’s pretty murkey water where the deciding factor could very well be what judge you happen to draw.

Of course, an owner would probably have to bat crazy to take it that far given all the bad blood it would create (and probably the only reason Al Davis and Donald Sterling are the two guys who have taken it the furthest, although Al Davis went much further then Sterling)

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by wallywagon11 on Apr 18, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Personally

if they don’t get the votes I highly doubt the Maloofs would take it any further. If they get the votes and Buss puts up a fight over the relocation fees being inadequate I think there is going to be some sort of settlement where Buss gets his pound of flesh either from the Kings through one of their revenue streams (like perhaps a percentage of their future TV deal or perhaps a percentage of any luxury tax money they get from the league’s shared pool) or just get paid off by the NBA and the Kings would still move.

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by wallywagon11 on Apr 18, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it only gets to a vote

if they have the votes. They’ll do another straw poll afterthe commitee reports next Friday

I’d be surprised if the Maloofs push it if they’re behind – but you never know, they may calculate that a straw poll is a lot different than actually votin against a fellow owner.

"But screw your courage to the sticking place - and we'll not fail"
Macbeth Act I, Sc VII

by lietothegirls on Apr 18, 2011 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

all I was trying to point out above is that technically speaking in a case where either

they don’t have the votes but pull the overnight move trick or they do have the votes but Buss still wants more money, it’s really all not that clear (even though it would seem we have a strong arguement to keep them here) what would happen.

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by wallywagon11 on Apr 18, 2011 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good Interview

I would think that KHTK should have it up and streaming soon.

To answer your question, he talked about how league had to be careful because of anti-trust laws, and the possibility that the Maloofs might sue if they don’t get their way.

by R-Man on Apr 18, 2011 9:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Nice!

I never though of it as $tern covering his butt.

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by caseycheesecake on Apr 18, 2011 10:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Very

interesting insight.
I had not really looked at it that way but the more I think about it the more I like it!

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by CapitanMericanu on Apr 18, 2011 10:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Assume the lies actually reveal the truth

I like it.

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by sac_faithful on Apr 18, 2011 12:04 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Yeah, the post definitely has a "conspiracy" vibe

However, I do think the Bennett appointment is Stern protecting the league in case of a “no” vote. Whether there is more to it, I don’t know.

by R-Man on Apr 18, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bottom Line:we have no arena!

So stern o.k.‘s move to anaheim and that’s that.stern knows we have ron burkle in our corner and he will say build a arena and we will check back sacramento.of course i want the kings to stay but stern is a asshole.

by cowboyron96@yahoo.com on Apr 18, 2011 2:37 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

This one is awesome!!

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Apr 18, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's like a Haiku, only different

Lowku?

Ronku?

Riseku?

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by section214 on Apr 18, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

ron'd

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Apr 18, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ronku

Rising the Hot Hand!!
Cowboyron has spoke again
More dead angels now

by Nutterball on Apr 18, 2011 6:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   4 recs

re'd for cowdoyness

"But screw your courage to the sticking place - and we'll not fail"
Macbeth Act I, Sc VII

by lietothegirls on Apr 18, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, just read it 7 hours later

and it’s still funny.

"Children want what they want when they want it." ... Andy Sims

by edm7 on Apr 18, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

By bringing up our new billionaire friend, he debunks the theory that cowboyron is, in fact, Ron Burkle himself.

by J Ryan on Apr 18, 2011 3:10 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Ron is scoring points on you now.

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen. And for a limited time, every third person who follows me on Twitter (andy_sims) gets a free ice cream cone.

Which I will eat.

by andy sims on Apr 19, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

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