More Cowbell: Draft Draft Draft, Omri Crispies
by Tom Ziller on May 19, 2011 10:23 AM PDT
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PrintThere will be lots of NBA Draft links in More Cowbell for the next month.
Behind-The-Scenes at the NBA Draft Lottery : Full Court Press
Our friend Alex Kramers covered the lotto for Kings.com. Included is the nugget that Kevin Johnson brought a Here We Stay t-shirt for good luck.
2011 NBA Mock Draft 1.0, led by Kyrie Irving, Derrick Williams - Sam Amick - SI.com
Our friend Sam Amick explains why he thinks Donatas Motiejunas would be a good fit with DeMarcus Cousins. (This was already on the front page, but I wanted to be sure everyone saw it.)
Ailene Voisin: A sense of urgency marks this offseason - Sacramento Bee
Our friend Ailene Voisin offers up a few early clues as to what the Kings could possibly be thinking maybe.
NBA’s Omri Casspi gets cereal deal - Jewish Community Voice of Southern New Jersey
Casspi got a cereal endorsement deal before Tyreke Evans did. Omri 1, 'Reke 0.
NBA Draft Lottery Study: Part Three - The Last Decade - Brew Hoop
Brew Hoop does a fantastic job with these draft studies. Well worth checking out.
DraftExpress: Post-NBA Draft Lottery Analysis: The Implications
DX goes into a bit more depth on its first post-lottery mock, including some more on its Biyombo pick for Sacramento.
Inside-Out Game: Defending Jimmer Fredette and Stephen Curry
Our friend Exhibit G's March breakdown of Stephen Curry and Jimmer Fredette. I'll have something on the Jimmer too this afternoon.
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PW Mills presents Omri cereal
You eat it for a few consecutive days, then it gets shoved in the cupboard and you don’t see it again for weeks.
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by section214 on May 19, 2011 10:28 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Warning
This cereal may raise your TS% inadvertently and randomly. It may also raise adrenaline levels which may cause serious injury to your heart.
"Contraction, I didn't say anything about contraction. I'm talking about shrinking the league." - Lebron James
"We're talking about Kwame Brown, who cares?" - Stephen A. Smith
Fuck you Landon Donovan, have fun losing in the World Cup asshole.
Careful though
When you go looking for it again, it might be in the pantry, or the fridge, or behind the cleaning supplies under the sink, or even clear out in the garage. Clearly this is a cereal that doesn’t know its place.
[THIS SPACE RENTED]
Burkle for President. KJ for VP.
by SavageBeast on May 19, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Just checked out Jimmer's profile, then watched a few youtubes
Damn I’m impressed. He hits his shots 7 feet beyond the 3 point line, nice speed and handles. I’m thinking, right off the bat… worst case: JJ Redick best case: Stephen Curry
His defense is really what's in question. No one is questioning his offense(other than can he be a facilitator)
Some are writing it off as BYU didn’t have him try hard on the defensive side of the ball because they needed his offense so much and they wanted him to save his energy.
by HeuristicLineup on May 19, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Your best and worst case it probably right
but, I would strongly caution against ever evaluating a player based off of youtube videos.
They can make me look like a NBA player.
Ya, I pay very little attention to youtube videos
You can find youtube clips of Adam Morrison that make him look like an AllStar bench sitter in the NBA
by HeuristicLineup on May 19, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Let's face it
K9 is a HOF bench sitter. If we could get another guy like that, we’d have two former player in the Hall.
"I think this can be a good line-up for us and we’ll see how it works." - PW on replacing Casspi and Beno with JT and Head in the starting lineup (Nov. 18, 2010 Sac Bee)
Trying to thinks of a joke about Voison putting Omri in her mouth
that doesn’t get me flogged by the moderators and my mouth washed out with soap.
I'd have to buy a new keyboard, monitor, computer, desk, carpet because I'd have violently vomitted over everything
If I tried to make a voison joke like that
by HeuristicLineup on May 19, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
That BrewHoop write-up was incredible
…the first overall pick does not have the highest “success percentage”; picks 3, 4, and 7(!) have a higher likelihood of meeting (50 games played at 12 min/game).
Statistically, the 7th pick has produced a SF/PF bench guy that has an average PER between 11.5 (Corey Brewer) and 19.4 (Nene Hilario). Interesting…
Yeah I saw that too
I think we’ll do alright. In GP we trust.
"You can have the knowledge that a tomato is a fruit, but it takes wisdom not to put it in a fruit salad." Jerry Reynolds
by kingsfan300 on May 19, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Well doesn't the quoted line
largely reflect injuries?
Doesn’t make the #1 pick more of a gamble than the others. The average 3 year peak per if 4 points higher than the next highest pick (#3).
The fact that Oden, Martin and Bogut in particular have missed a lot of seasons doesn’t devalue the first pick. There’s nothing about that draft slot that makes someone more likely to get hurt. I think it’s mostly a result of noise in the data from looking at a fairly short time frame (11 years).
While it’s true injuries will affect who was chosen for this particular analysis, the players with the highest PERS for every draft class still tended to have enough qualifying seasons. Oden is the biggest loser in this example, but both Bogut and Martin had more than 3 qualifying season.
I know this isn’t a good predictor of likelihood of injury—I was merely thinking about how this analysis showed that we can have an effective player (based on minutes played and PER) as the 7th pick.
The flip side to this argument is that although these lottery picks are getting playing time, we have to realize most of the teams who chose them sucked before, during, and after that particular year. Getting minutes on a bad team when you are just above average isn’t hard to do.
So yeah, /GRAINOFSALT
And it works for Oden as well
He’s officially played one full season of NBA basketball, and his numbers in that time are exceptionally good for a big man his age.
PER can’t take injuries into account, so I’d have to say Oden doesn’t disprove your thesis.
"Grant is a genius." - section214 - 5/17/11
I agree. I felt like the quote didn't match the conclusion though
Quote was about #1 pick and success percentage, which I don’t put a lot of stock in for the aforementioned reasons.
I thought your take was spot on though.
y'all see this?
Sam Amico is reporting that the Indiana Pacers and Minnesota Timberwolves are discussing a potential trade for the second overall selection in the NBA Draft. Amico mentions Danny Granger, Ricky Rubio and Michael Beasley as some of the players being discussed between the two teams, so clearly these two teams are looking to make a major deal. If David Kahn deals the second overall pick and gives up Rubio and Beasley in the same trade, he better receive a haul of talent in return or he’s going to face some serious backlash from the fans
nope but not remotely surprised
Live every week like it's Shark Week.
by wallywagon11 on May 19, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Former 2nd overall pick, former 5th overall pick...
And the 2nd overall pick in this draft for Granger. …I think it’s just a new phase he’s going through. Instead of buying up a ton of picks, he wants to sell sell sell!
It'll probably get him another 1st or 2nd rounder as well though.
I know we're gonna lose but I still think we're gonna win.
Amici is pretty good though
Live every week like it's Shark Week.
by wallywagon11 on May 19, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
(really hoping I guess right there was no Sam Amico and we are talking about Amick)
Live every week like it's Shark Week.
by wallywagon11 on May 19, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Sam Amico is different from Sam Amick.
Different people.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Amico is based in Akron OH (I think) or somewhere around those parts.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
lol
and of course he is
JOKE FAIL
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by wallywagon11 on May 19, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
So I fell into the pit of 'cazm did I?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
asdf
"He forced it to go in the net, and that's a good thing." -Jerry Reynolds
by Juan Primo on May 19, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
And the lesson here children
is that I am a moron.
The end.
Live every week like it's Shark Week.
by wallywagon11 on May 19, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
So you didn't accept the pearls of wisdom from Billy Dee did ya?
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I had a Papst the other day, that almost counts
Live every week like it's Shark Week.
by wallywagon11 on May 19, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
You've let Billy Dee down. I'm telling on you.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
that's not short for "pap smere" is it?
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on May 19, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
lol meant to write Pabst
Live every week like it's Shark Week.
by wallywagon11 on May 20, 2011 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Draft Express - Booooo
Has the Kings drafting two PF/C. I don’t freaking think so. Last position we need. I would be surprised if we draft one PF/C unless we are giving up on Whiteside already.
I don't think that they've really spent a lot of time on the 2nd round
They have us picking 36th, and I think we moved to 35th after Utah (via New Jersey) vaulted us in the 1s round.
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You are correct
Was talking about that with a friend earlier.
I don’t put too much stock in any of these mocks right now though. Even more than most years 3-14 is in complete flux. So it’s even more guess work (and less solid logic) than normal I think.
Agreed
Its a lot less simple than years before.
Last year most people had 1-5 figured out within a week after the lottery, with the only real debate being whether Minnesota would draft Wes Johnson or Cousins. In the draft, first real surprise were the Dubs taking Udoh at 6.
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That being said
While it was a surprise, most people had figured out the Warriors were going to take him based off reports earlier that week and multiple times the Warriors had brought him in.
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Ha, maybe surprise to logic and common sense
but you are right they had brought him in.
I understand their theory too, they wanted a defensive presence in the paint.
Still, if it was me, I would have taken Monroe.
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