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I'm FanPosting this one. While my views are never meant to be viewed as the opinion of Sactown Royalty, this one is definitely to be viewed as one man, one opinion.

I received an email today:

"Dear Rob,
As a valued Season Ticket Holder, I want to thank you for your support of the Sacramento Kings. The past several months have been extremely challenging, and I am so pleased to be able to share with you that the team will remain in Sacramento for the 2011-12 season.
We have been overwhelmed by the tremendous community support, led by Mayor Kevin Johnson and the Sacramento Metro Chamber, and by the passion and loyalty demonstrated by the always terrific Sacramento Kings fans. As a fellow Sacramentan, I am excited about the next steps for our community.
Next season presents Sacramento with a historic opportunity. We hope you will again choose to be part of it – and the team’s future – at this very pivotal and exciting time for the Sacramento Kings by renewing your season tickets. Please access
www.commit2kings.com to find your renewal information, using your account ID (xxxxxx) to log in.
Over the next year Sacramento will be working diligently to secure the sports and entertainment complex our community deserves in order to make this a viable long-term home for the team. We are committed to working with local leaders to help make that happen.
I hope you will choose to join us next season. Let’s work together to make it our best season yet.
Sincerely,

Matina Kolokotronis
President, Business Operations
Maloof Sports & Entertainment  

Now, there is no doubt that I am a bit hyper-sensitive right now, but I can't help but read a little extortion into this. You know, renew or we might have to leave. And while I was slightly offended, I was also honest enough to realize that I'm still angry over the treatment the fans received at Fan Depreciation Night, and how through this process years and years of undying fan support has been largely ignored by Maloof Sports & Entertainment. I understand that it was not personal, that it was only business. So that is now my approach - it is only business.

With that in mind, I clicked on my account to find that my ticket price is exactly the same as last year. However, I now only have six months to pay on my account instead of the ten months that I had last year. Also, the twenty free parking passes that I received last year are no more. So, net-net I am paying more in less time to secure tickets to watch a team that has won fewer games in the past two years combined than nine NBA teams won this past season. And with no new Collective Bargaining Agreement, I could be ponying up for a season that may not be played in part or entirety. And I have no assurance from the team that they are going to invest their usable cap space for upgraded talent, though the $240 that they saw fit to tack onto my bill this year via rescinding the parking passes should go a long way in securing a free agent.

Understand, I have always been of the mind that as a season ticket holder, you were investing in the future of the team. I never, never got upset when MS&E would discount tickets that I paid full boat for, and I supported every one of their ticket-selling promotions. A full arena was a fun arena, and it mattered not to me if I paid more for the experience than the guy sitting next to me. But that is the thought process of someone who is invested emotionally, and as the Maloofs have proven over the past several months, this is not personal, it's only business.

As such, I simply cannot make what I consider to be a bad business decision. As a person that has tight cash flow, I cannot justify investing season ticket money in this team at this time. Not when I take into consideration the current talent base, the grand possibility of little or no season, the fact that under these circumstances my ticket package has actually become more expensive, and the fall-off in customer service that used to be a MS&E staple.

Under the economic conditions that this city still finds itself in, after the product that has been placed before Kings fans for the past few years, after the Maloofery that has taken place over the past several weeks and months, and taking into account the precarious nature of this upcoming NBA season, MS&E needs to be bending over backwards for its customers. But it seems that it is the customer that is doing the bending over. And as I advance in years, I'm just not that flexible anymore.

Please understand, I'm not advising anyone to not buy tickets (or even season tickets). This team needs our support to survive in Sacramento. If you go into it with no expectations, you won't be disappointed. But I cannot simply give the Maloofs my business because they demand it. They still need to earn it, and they are not doing that in the here and the now.

I will likely share tickets with another season ticket holder looking to sell off a few games, or I will buy a game here and there. But I just can't bring myself to renew my season tickets when I consider all of the elements. It might make sense if I look at it emotionally, but I won't do that. This is business.

My apologies for the negativity during this celebratory time. Go Kings!

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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Makes sense why you’re so upset. I hope the Maloofs really re-committ to Sacramento and the fans. All of us deserve better treatment after what we’ve been through.

"Keep a positive outlook, even when things are looking bleak. Remember, nothing is impossible."

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by DaT3rmin8r on May 2, 2011 7:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I get your feelings and would never try to convert anyone.......but

This is your opportunity to move into row B C D E or F for the price you paid last year, although I grant the price will start rising once the arena is full and the team improves. My rep said they want you guys to move down.
Another perk is that I suspect the scoreboard prevents you from actually being able to see me in 203. I realize I am sensitive but after 10 complaints, it begins to sink in.

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by ElRonToro on May 2, 2011 7:32 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd.

I think you should e-mail back that post in its entirety. They need to know how you, and probably a lot of other season ticket holders, feel.

I’m sure it wouldn’t take much (restore the parking passes, $100 off the package, same terms as before) for MS&E to keep from losing season ticket holders.

After the way they’ve treated Kings fans, a little show of good faith would go a long way. I would even suggest that it’s necessary at this point, given the looming labor issues.

Even though the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas!

by LeaguePassAddict on May 2, 2011 7:36 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Agreed

If they didn’t get the memo, the first time, complain again.

See if they are willing to fix their Snafu.

I got my flights fully reimbursed once! FTW!

by chenp22 on May 2, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

As always...

wisdom in a few short sentences from BTE. Nicely said…uh…written.

"Let's put this negatizm behind us!" - Joe Maloof

by debrixtha1 on May 3, 2011 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

How to feel?

I usually don’t listen to grant’s show, but tuned in today. And felt like I needed to call in. I just got a busy signal, but I wanted to make a point.

That point is that the Kings are not just the Maloofs. Buying tickets is not just putting money in the Maloofs pockets. It is supporting the franchise and the brand. It is supporting the team. This is easy to understand from an analytical perspective, but this is not about that. This is about how we feel.

The Maloofs have damaged the franchise and the brand. What is worse for each of us personally is that they hurt us and our fandom. Their very presence as owners put the future of this team at risk because many people can’t and won’t get past the trauma of just the possibility of losing this team to Anaheim.

I am committing to go to more games this year. Despite the Maloofs. Because I am going to have more commitment to the team. Not the Maloofs. And partially because they want the team to fail. They want tickets to drop off and corporate sponsors to go elsewhere so they can leave. Screw them.

I am not going to let them sabotage how I feel about this team. I can hate them and love the team. They can’t take that away from me. To me being less committed means they win.

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on May 2, 2011 7:41 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

chen prince
@GrantNapearShow Its not impossible to Love your team and City and dislike the way fans have been treated.

I said that to Grant earlier. I was surprised at the amount of people slurping it up. “We are so lucky that they decided to come back to us” Do they not read everything out there? I mean they have to know that the Maloofs would be LONG GONE if they were allowed. Right? Right?

by chenp22 on May 2, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

The King never left. Only the Maloofs did and they could not take the team with them.

For me they will always be gone. They are no longer part of my regard for the team. I will love and support this team while hating them for the harm they have done.

This has always been about supporting the team for me and they got to share that for a while by being part of it. No longer. To me they are dead. I will heal and get past the hurt, let go of the anger that I needed while hurt, and move on to continue enjoying my team.

They are not worth holding onto the pain, hurt, and anger.

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on May 2, 2011 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty much right there with you

Im not a fan of the Maloofs, never was. I’m a fan of Sacramento, and the Basketball team.
I’ll get over the grief they caused, but on the radio today, everyone seemed like nothing had happened.

Clean Slate! You have been bending me over for the last few months, but hey its ok.
I’m not even sure there was an apology. Was there?

by chenp22 on May 3, 2011 4:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

No apology was given.

Makes me wonder if the Maloofs even understand what they have done and its consequences. They were not at the last game so maybe they didn’t see people crying. Maybe they are so caught up in their own crap that they don’t try to understand. Or maybe they just simply don’t give a shit.

Anyway you slice it the Maloofs are now toxic in Sacramento. The awareness of just how much so isn’t fully understood. They should issue an apology. How can they be forgiven if they don’t apologize and acknowledge the situation…

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on May 3, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh absolutely, that's why Joe pulls the "Just ask yourself what would you do if you are a Maloof?" card

which would actually work if … well they actually were straight up open about their situation and can actually show us what they are looking at here when dealing with all this stuff. And they won’t do it. Whether it’s because they are full of shit, want to protect themselves in case of future possible action against the league, or just not sure what to do it’s anybody’s guess and they can’t bitch about the speculation and doubt they are in fact creating with their own actions.

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by wallywagon11 on May 3, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm glad youdidnt re-up

Discounting some non-renewal setas 40% or more, but not discounting renewals that happen to be in a more desirable location? Puh-lease. I’m sure you’ll still go to 10+ games, so I don’t doubt your fanhood… Or intelligence.

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on May 2, 2011 7:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Ok I feel too much like an apologist here

but my rep said that if you take any section of seats and factor in the severe discounts they gave to see the crap teams, but add in the sold out top tier games add 3 times the cost, that the average price of tickets for each section were higher than the season ticket holder paid for a seat in the same section.
I did not do the math but my brain said that this could be true.
On a game for game basis you get screwed but over the course of the season he said it works out.

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by ElRonToro on May 2, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apologist

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on May 2, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

To clarify

I think buying season tickets is awesome, and I will go to as many games next season as I can. I just don’t like the fact that “bad” seats were deeply discounted, and “good” seats were not in any way. Even for people that are renewing existing tickets.

Wait....Why is everybody clapping? Everyone around me is clapping.... I guess I should be clapping too... GO LAKERS!!! I hate living in So Cal

by 27freethrows on May 2, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good seats were discounted as well

Late in the season we picked up 117 P for $60 each a few days before the game.

I do think season tix should be discounted more off face (right now we get $105 seats for $98) – and we are talking to our rep about free parking right now. They gave us about half the season parking free last year.

The tix rep seemed open to working with us.

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by lietothegirls on May 5, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is precisely the conundrum that the Maloofs put their customers in due to their own issue's.

This is why people have complained about them (after hearing complaints in the better years of the franchise here; it was mostly drowned out because there were plenty of people wishing for tickets) recently. They simply do not understand that you have to adjust prices to demand, and still treat your customers well.

The Kings are charging a high price for a poor product, and wonder why they aren’t selling out? This is one area, for people just like you Rob, where the NBA steps in and says: Whoa? Why? Get people in than worry about prices. Hello?

Again, they like to believe they treat customers with respect. That holds with the Maloofs edge. However, if you talk to actual customers, they don’t feel the same way. Not all customers are right necessarily; but none of your complaints are beyond the realm of customer complaint. While I understand the idiom “The Customer is always Right”, customers are not always right. Product demand = Consumer

Standard Economics. I know, I go through this in my class almost every day. The Maloofs just don’t seem to know it.

I would second LPA’s motion to send this postl back to the Kings ticket staff. If the NBA is to get a handle on what the issue’s here are, I think one way is to recognize that the Maloof’s are treating their customers badly by simply neglecting them. It’s not that they are mean are anything; it’s just that they are too desperate to lower prices because it cuts into any profit margin they do have. They can’t afford anything different.

Like everyone else, I’m glad you didn’t reup for your reasons Rob. But, at the same time, I’m saddened that a long time season ticket holder had to resort to such things when not really wishing to. It’s quite the conundrum that faces this market (and others) as the NBA is so determined to face a lockout.

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by pookeyguru on May 2, 2011 8:24 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

I think the problem is

as others have said, separating the Kings from the Maloofs. The Kings are Sacramento’s team, but they almost became Anaheim’s and could be Kansas City’s next year. Don’t let it happen.

"His D was a difference at the end."

by NewEraKings on May 2, 2011 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

The question

I have is….are you going to have change your screenname now? Or will you only purchase tickets in 214?

Seriously though, I feel your pain on this. Sad how the Maloof’s have let their reputation slip so far…

"Let's put this negatizm behind us!" - Joe Maloof

by debrixtha1 on May 3, 2011 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

If it's that important..

…why don’t you attend all 46 games next year?

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 2, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frankly

To me, it’s not that important. If I lived in Sacramento, I am sure it would be different.

And I agree the arena is the big deal, but I think the general support given to the franchise and the building of a new arena go hand in hand.

"His D was a difference at the end."

by NewEraKings on May 2, 2011 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that's fine. I think support is a big deal..

..but I’m not questioning anyone for not going. I can’t do that given I can’t go to the games. Neither can you. So I’m curious how being critical of someone who has been a season ticket holder for over 15 years is suddenly abandoning the team when the team is not responding to what’s clearly going on. Or, more precisely, the ownership group that has proven to be ineffectual (to put it kindly).

The point, and it remains the point, is that the Maloofs have poisoned this well through & through with their own actions. That was the point of this post by 214. What did you read?

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by pookeyguru on May 2, 2011 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see my post as critical

and it was addressed to Kings fans in general as opposed to S214 in solo.

I think the drop in attendance over the past several years, although justified by the increasingly crappy product, gave the Maloofs cover to almost pull this relocation off. It took an amazing fourth-quarter comeback by the fans and business community to send this game into overtime. But it’s going to take continued fan support and a new arena to keep the team here. That’s all.

"His D was a difference at the end."

by NewEraKings on May 2, 2011 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't really read "extortion" into the sales letter, either.

It’s a sales email, a marketing piece. And I agree with others that if someone doesn’t like a sales pitch, they can ignore it or respond with a counter-proposal or by pointing out what’s different and how those perks should still be included.

Like Section said, losing him as a season ticket holder isn’t going to in and of itself mean much.

"His D was a difference at the end."

by NewEraKings on May 2, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

We agree that support is needed to keep the team here.

Good night.

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by pookeyguru on May 2, 2011 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

46? Are you including preseason? Postseason?

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by JediLeroy on May 2, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pre Season actually.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 2, 2011 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will Gavin ever lean?

Red’c

Sound the trumpets, Raise the drawbridge, and drop the Oldsmobile

by Balky Needs on May 2, 2011 8:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I thought it was fairly well-written and did a good job

of addressing the elephant in the room, instead of ignoring it. I didn’t take it as extortion.

by Smills9133 on May 2, 2011 8:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I did.

But only from the Maloof’s POV. I’m hoping the NBA puts a stop to it quickly.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 2, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

No need to apologize for negativity, at all.

This letter is just another bad move by the Maloofs.
It should be them kowtowing to you season ticket holders (by offering discounts and incentives) — not the other way around.

by ivan209 on May 2, 2011 9:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Wanna know why the NBA is coming around?

To look at stuff like this I reckon. I doubt that season ticket holders will have to deal with this much longer. If they do, the NBA might as well make plans because Arco won’t be nearly full at the prices currently offered.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 2, 2011 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Damnit!

Didn’t see the Youngman fanshot. I blew my wad! Arrrrrrgggggggg!

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by wallywagon11 on May 2, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Funny, but isn't that just someone rolling the DVR back?

Hehe.

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Small-market crowds > Large-market crowds

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by DaT3rmin8r on May 2, 2011 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you miss the end?

It froze for the first time. Try refreshing the page if you didn’t see anything…ah…out of place.

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by PurpleLoco on May 3, 2011 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

*for me

In these times, you have to be an optimist to open your eyes when you awake in the morning.
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by PurpleLoco on May 3, 2011 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Simple, email sales asking for a better deal

At least mention the additional throw ins your received last season. I bet they come down and meet you.

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by bignerd on May 2, 2011 10:23 PM PDT reply actions  

They have.

See my post below. There are quite good bonuses now. I think they didn’t have the time to roll those out immediately.

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by Scott Section 213 on May 3, 2011 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

gotta love form letters.

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by TrojanCBB on May 2, 2011 10:43 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I would bet it's not Matina's first choice.

Blaming her for the Maloof’s decision is not wise. Hopefully the power at be (namely the NBA marketing people) see this as a sign of how Sacramento support is being hurt from the top of the organization.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 2, 2011 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

They do know this Pookey to some degree...

That is why the NBA is sending in their big guns, but I don’t know that they realize the extent of it.

Section could be in a unique position to be heard. I think that there are many who feel completely conflicted about supporting this team. The NBA should know just how toxic the Maloofs are and how bad it has become…

As an editor for this blog Section could represent those who would not be otherwise heard…

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on May 2, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

People have to represent themselves.

It has a lot more weight with 10000 voices than it has with 1 person representing 10000 people.

EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 3, 2011 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry you feel so bitter

It’s not about the Maloofs for me.

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- Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower

by lietothegirls on May 2, 2011 11:08 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

If it's personal financial reasons

it’s totally understandable. But if it’s about the Maloofs greediness, it wouldn’t bother me. The whole system is crazy, we have 19 year olds paid millions for bouncing a ball when the majority of the planet is starving. I’d just buy the season ticket and have a fun year as much as my payroll allows and put my justified small egos against the Maloofs aside. Other than that, this post is a great analysis of the Maloofs’ lack of understanding.

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by ZenBaller on May 3, 2011 2:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Season tickets

It has always been a dream of mine to be a season ticket holder. The cost and the distance have always been prohibitive. Even Nuggets season tickets would require me to drive an hour to and from each game. If that was for the Kings, absolutely, but not the Nuggets. And if I lived in Sacramento, I’m sure I would have already been a season ticket holder by now.

All of that being said, I don’t blame you at all, Section. Not one bit. As the Here We Stay, Here We Build, and Here We Purple movements demonstrated, there are many ways to support a team even if you do not attend every game. Even if you don’t attend any games.

Season tickets have been a dream of mine, but the Maloofs have put us through a nightmare. To buckle to the NBA and stay in Sacramento only to, essentially, increase prices to season tickets holders, is absurd.

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by Exhibit G on May 3, 2011 7:02 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't blame you at all

This is some of the fallout that the Maloofs will have to deal with. They completely botched everything last season when it came to us Sacramento fans. All they care about was getting to Anaheim, ASAP. They didn’t do the necessary maintenance on the arena. They didn’t show up to Fan Appreciation Night. Usually in the past, the FAN night is a giveaway night, but this year, nothing.

They’re going to have to realize how badly they burned the fan base. We all love our Kings. I think it’s safe to say we ALL lost a ton of respect for the Maloofs. That being said, I haven’t been to a game for about 2 years now, but that ends next year. I’m going to as many as I can go to. Not to put money into the Maloofs pockets, but to support the team I love.

I don’t take this as anything negative, honestly. I take it as being smart.

by Dub_TC on May 3, 2011 8:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Extortion? Probably not. Tone-deaf? Abso-fuggin'-lutely.

It’s a pretty plain-vanilla season ticket re-up request. All of the common verbiage is there, the props to the “valued Season Ticket Holder,” the request to be part of the team at “this very pivotal and exciting time” for the team, it’s just Season Tix Reup Boilerplate language.

It’s paragraph #4 (“Over the next year…”) that doesn’t fit in, and this note probably would have been fine for you if that paragraph hadn’t been included. However, in a typical Maloofian over-reach, they figured that the good feelings from yesterday would help cascade people into lining up to get those season tix.

Once again, by including that paragraph, they made yesterday’s decision about them, rather than about us as a fan base. I don’t see it so much as an extortion, as much as it is the Maloofs trying to turn yesterday’s good feelings into something that was their idea all along.

And then trying to profit by it.

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by SierraSpartan on May 3, 2011 8:37 AM PDT reply actions  

If this were about season ticket holders paying more for each seat than the non-season ticket holders around them...

I could see the vitriol and probably understand it. Not getting free shit at the last game seems like an odd fulcrum.

by towndunce on May 3, 2011 9:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Respectfully

It was not about “free shit.” It was about giving the fan base the appreciation that they deserved. It was about at least meeting a standard that the franchise itself had set over the years. It was about thanking the fans for their patronage. They did none of that. They should have been ashamed of themselves for even showing the “Fan Appreciation Night” logo on the jumbo tron, becuase there was virtually no appreciation, at least none more than you would find at a mid-season game.

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by section214 on May 3, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that's what has stuck in my craw as well

It wasn’t just an annual “Fan Appreciation Night” – it was quite likely (at the time) the last night of professional basketball in Sacramento EVER. A quarter of a century’s worth of basketball history could have been noted and celebrated.

Instead, we saw Laker fans in the owners seats and no acknowledgement of the great history of this franchise in Sacramento. For an allegedly customer service oriented group, they really whiffed on this badly.

Burklemaniac

by otis29 on May 3, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

That night, the franchise was already gone to Anaheim. So, would the organization go out with a bang or a whimper? Asked and answered, they went out like punks. Thanks for support…don’t forget to turn out the lights on your way out. Worse than a swing and a miss – they never took the bat of their shoulders.

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by section214 on May 3, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think it was worse

i think it was more of a case of them getting themselves pulled out of a playoff game early showering and leaving before the game was over, and leaving a lesser player to play in their place

by Murf on May 4, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

They were out the door and everyone knew it

Wouldn’t it seem disingenuous to tell everyone how great they are while in the middle of taking the team away? If anything that would be the ultimate middle finger. I’m not a huge fan of the Maloof’s but I think we’re being way too sensitive about these things…

by towndunce on May 3, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Come on

it’s not like there was a high standard to be met here. Just don’t give your tickets to Lakers fans and do your usual Fan Appreciation Night and you are good to go.

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by wallywagon11 on May 3, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would not have been disingenuous

for them to at least meet the standard of past fan appreciation nights, which included the organization (did not have to be the brothers directly) recognizing and rewarding the fans for their support, and giving proper accordance and respect to those fans that were inducted into the fan hall of fame.

I’ve never won a thing at fan appreciation night. But you know what I always get a kick out of? The kids clean up. They get t-shirts and ipods and Gameboys and all sorts of stuff. Stuff that makes the night a lifetime memory for the kid, as well as the parent that accompanied him/her. And there was none of that this year. Zip. Zero. Nada. Why the change? Why now? For a few thousand dollars they could have made it a night to remember, instead of making it a night that we would all prefer to forget.

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by section214 on May 3, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

And it's not just the "how" of Fan Appreciation Night

To me, it’s the “why”. They appeared to be two guys whose feet were on fire and the only water left on the planet was in Anaheim. A few weeks later and you’re asking for significant dollars from these same fans without bringing any incentive to the table?

I do agree a bit with one caller who Grant basically ignored yesterday. He was a season ticket holder and wondered why he should invest in season tickets when a) there was no parking discount, which he received last year, and b) based on the marketing push to sell single-game tickets last season, he could buy individual game tickets and get a better dollar value in most instances.

Ultimately, the guy was having trouble reconciling the benefit to being a season ticket holder at this point.

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by otis29 on May 3, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Heard the same caller

wish Grant didn’t brush the guy off either. He was respectful and coherent. Well, at least that explains the “why” Grant brushed him off.

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by wallywagon11 on May 3, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I rarely listen to Grant's show but heard it yesterday and that guy had a good point

When asked by ticket reps if we’d recommend season tickets to someone else we said no. Specifically because they can get better deals if they aren’t.

by towndunce on May 3, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully Otis...

….the NBA staff is listening to this though. Hopefully anyway. That’s the only real hope or the shenanigans will continue.

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by pookeyguru on May 3, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I found out from my season ticket holder buddy...

…they’re really trying to get renewals. If you renew by May 17, you get to pick one of these bonuses:
20 free parking passes or
$200 credit to the team store or
$300 credit for food/beverage or
$400 credit for tickets to non-premium games

It’s good they’re trying by actions to win people back. Actions do speak louder than words.

by Scott Section 213 on May 3, 2011 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions   4 recs

Wow. That is something.

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by pookeyguru on May 3, 2011 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

must be based on ticket price

mine were

$150 parking
$250 food
$150 store
$300 tickets

not that excited about it quite frankly because they’ve given us $200 in parking or food the last 2 or 3 years already. had i chosen parking i’d actually get less than last year.

by Madzillagd on May 4, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure

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by lietothegirls on May 5, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

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