More Cowbell: Santiago On Perception Of Sacramento, Westphal On Fans
by Tom Ziller on May 4, 2011 5:15 AM PDT
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Cowbell Kingdom: More Than a Pitstop
Friend-of-StR Jon Santiago digs into the perception of Sacramento and how, for him, it's changed over the last few weeks.
Sac Bee: Kings' Arena Drama Not Lost on Westphal
Ailene Voisin talks to Paul Westphal about the whole relocation thing. (Thanks to Juan for the FanShot.) Money quote:
"The team hit rock bottom and is trying to climb back up. The city is trying to climb back up. There is something to catch a romantic bone in everyone's body. So let's go!"
Sac Bee: Sacramento begins real work to keep Kings
A good summary of what's happening now that the Kings are confirmed for next year. (Thanks to Juan for the FanShot.) Season tickets are outpacing team expectations and the NBA's nine-person team is already in town.
Rise Guys: Jason Thompson
The RGS spent most of Tuesday morning talking about the euphoria of the Kings staying, but my favorite segment was J.T. talking about the fans in the last game.
Sac Bee: Catching up with Tyreke Evans
'Reke lost a Call of Duty match against Deron Williams, likes Derrick Williams and Kemba Walker and used to play CoD against Spencer Hawes all of the time.
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lots to comment on
1. it is great to know the Kings players and coaches really felt the fans love for the team and our Kings.
2. I am Kemba Walker fan, and i would love for the kingz to get him if they pick 4-6, And it sounds like. Tyreke would be ok with it too.
3. i hope the Kings are willing to sign a lease of at least 20 million per year, and that the city can find a way to donate part of the land at the rail yards and start a use tax without a vote, so we can get the arena built.
4. i love talking about basketball when it involves our Kings
hey dipitydoo
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$20 million a year!?????
Holy ratshit Batman! That is craaaaazy talk.
We’ll be lucky to get bac anywhere close to the $10 mil a year – but I’d guess it will be more like $5 mil.
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by lietothegirls on May 4, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
this
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by wallywagon11 on May 4, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
i must have put crack in my bong. . .and
used bourbon for the water. for some reason i thought the old plan.called for a 20 million dollar lease.
hey dipitydoo
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by want2win on May 4, 2011 9:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I have yet to hear about an NBA player who is not a Call of Duty guy
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I've yet to hear
about an American Male aged 15-25 who is not a Call of Duty guy.
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by Aykis16 on May 4, 2011 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I fit that criteria lol
With that said, add me on PSN guys!
LOL Timmy_13
"Contraction, I didn't say anything about contraction. I'm talking about shrinking the league." - Lebron James
"We're talking about Kwame Brown, who cares?" - Stephen A. Smith
Fuck you Landon Donovan, have fun losing in the World Cup asshole.
Haha
Why?
"Contraction, I didn't say anything about contraction. I'm talking about shrinking the league." - Lebron James
"We're talking about Kwame Brown, who cares?" - Stephen A. Smith
Fuck you Landon Donovan, have fun losing in the World Cup asshole.
PSN network went down after a security breach
Bin Laden was found and killed
The joke is that we found Bin Laden through the PSN network breach.
And when you have to explain a joke … probably not that funny
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Oh
I’ve been living under a cave for quite a while now.
Pardon my ignorance.
"Contraction, I didn't say anything about contraction. I'm talking about shrinking the league." - Lebron James
"We're talking about Kwame Brown, who cares?" - Stephen A. Smith
Fuck you Landon Donovan, have fun losing in the World Cup asshole.
aren't you on the PSN network though?
You didn’t notice it was shut down for a week? You do know your personal information they had may have been stolen right?
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I do know it had been shut down for a week and a half now(?)
but me not getting the joke is what I was saying. And yea, I saw an article about it on yahoo. Thank God I didn’t buy online games on my PSN account.
"Contraction, I didn't say anything about contraction. I'm talking about shrinking the league." - Lebron James
"We're talking about Kwame Brown, who cares?" - Stephen A. Smith
Fuck you Landon Donovan, have fun losing in the World Cup asshole.
Has there been any reports of them actually using any of that CC information?
I know they felt like it was access, but has anyone actually reported they have done anything with it?
by HeuristicLineup on May 4, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I heard someone actually sued Sony for it.
And one – There are rumors going around that a hacker group actually vowed to hack Sony because Sony had a legal battle against a hacker. I guess they succeeded. But as for actually using CC’s I don’t know. They said, they just hack to prove a point.
"Contraction, I didn't say anything about contraction. I'm talking about shrinking the league." - Lebron James
"We're talking about Kwame Brown, who cares?" - Stephen A. Smith
Fuck you Landon Donovan, have fun losing in the World Cup asshole.
"And one" or "And won"?
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on May 4, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
And 1 sorry.
I’m lethargic today.
"Contraction, I didn't say anything about contraction. I'm talking about shrinking the league." - Lebron James
"We're talking about Kwame Brown, who cares?" - Stephen A. Smith
Fuck you Landon Donovan, have fun losing in the World Cup asshole.
So while they were suing they got fouled and still made the basket?
by HeuristicLineup on May 4, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
That's nice
"Contraction, I didn't say anything about contraction. I'm talking about shrinking the league." - Lebron James
"We're talking about Kwame Brown, who cares?" - Stephen A. Smith
Fuck you Landon Donovan, have fun losing in the World Cup asshole.
Especially when it's on a 3 pointer
4 point plays are awesome
by HeuristicLineup on May 4, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
6 point plays are awesome-r
*scene
- Misses FT, grabs O Reb, hits a three.
"Contraction, I didn't say anything about contraction. I'm talking about shrinking the league." - Lebron James
"We're talking about Kwame Brown, who cares?" - Stephen A. Smith
Fuck you Landon Donovan, have fun losing in the World Cup asshole.
Actually,
The rumor now is it was an inside job. Sony recently fired a bunch of people and some who were working on the online security side were canned and they are the ones who supposedly hacked the system.
I know we're gonna lose but I still think we're gonna win.
/raises hand
I’m just not very good at video games anymore. I was awesome at Nintendo though
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oh you young guys
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by betweentheeyes on May 4, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Holy sh*t.
I don’t even know what that is.
"Contraction, I didn't say anything about contraction. I'm talking about shrinking the league." - Lebron James
"We're talking about Kwame Brown, who cares?" - Stephen A. Smith
Fuck you Landon Donovan, have fun losing in the World Cup asshole.
It's an ancient ancestor of the Gameboy
It’s a football game.
by Kfan in Korea on May 4, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I had one of those
played it constantly. LED FTW
by Kfan in Korea on May 4, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
do you remember when they came out with the head to head one
it was awesome too
hey dipitydoo
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by want2win on May 4, 2011 9:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Really?
I’d love to have one. Seriously, I played that thing all the time. I had a baseball one and a couple of others as well, but the football one was the deal.
by Kfan in Korea on May 4, 2011 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like they stopped making them again in the early 2000's
That’s why they are so freaking expensive now. Maybe they will start reissuing them again at some point.
Burklemaniac
i rocked this game when i was young
hey dipitydoo
"these arent writers, they’re fans. you want grammatic aestheticism? read the times." Rambler 80 in response to my request for use of spell check and grammar at Turf Show Times when writing an article, fanpost or fanshot.
by want2win on May 4, 2011 9:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep -
This game was the primer for texting for all of us old fogies.
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Finally we figured out the absolute PERFECT name for Links
by Aykis16 on May 4, 2011 7:42 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Yes!
And how did we not come up with that before? It’s so obvious.
by Kfan in Korea on May 4, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions
...
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by SierraSpartan on May 4, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Rec'd
Because, as Aykis said, “More Cowbell” is the perfect name for the links. And also because we’re talking about basketball stuff, and that makes me happy.
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by Exhibit G on May 4, 2011 7:47 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the links, Tom
Mile High Report is my other favorite SBNation site and I love that they aggregate all the Broncos related links for the readers. Love to see this with StR as well. Thanks again!
I just renamed my kids Burkle, Burkle, Burkle and Ron.
Wow.
This will keep me from doing my work today. lol
"Contraction, I didn't say anything about contraction. I'm talking about shrinking the league." - Lebron James
"We're talking about Kwame Brown, who cares?" - Stephen A. Smith
Fuck you Landon Donovan, have fun losing in the World Cup asshole.
But it’s a big jump from a Triple-A baseball stadium to an NBA arena. Sacramento’s arena could cost $350 million. There’s no way it could generate enough revenue to operate the team and pay the debt service, said Warren Smith, a former River Cats executive who worked on the Raley Field development.
That’s where public money would have to come in. But a JPA, or any governmental entity, would have trouble scaring up public dollars for an arena without voter approval.
California law says local tax increases must be decided at the ballot box. Although certain “user fees” don’t require a vote, the definition of what constitutes a fee was narrowed sharply by the passage of Proposition 26 last fall, said Peter Detwiler, staff director of the Senate Governance and Finance Committee.
I am a little confused as to why Prop 26 matters here. I was under the impression it created a super majority requirement in the state assembly not just for tax increaes but also user fee loopholes that previously only required a majority vote. In order for a county though to enforce a hotel/car rental fee did they need the state legislature to approve?
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It could be read that Prop 26 applies to local "fees" as well...
The arguments for and against can be read here. Without actually digging into the code, it would appear, at least on its face, that any new or increased “fee” would be subject to voter approval.
Now that’s not to say that local voters wouldn’t approve a rise in hotel taxes or rental car fees, or even a ticket tax user fee for the proposed ESC, but unless Taylor/ICON comes up with something extraordinary, it looks like we’re doomed to be headed to a vote.
"You take one step out that door and somebody’s gonna get fucked real bad" ... Elfboy
by SierraSpartan on May 4, 2011 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Here is the second question though (don't have to answer it Sierra just throwing it up there)
If Prop 26 actually does forces a public vote, does there need to be super majority approval for “fees”?
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could be jumping a little too quick on this (not saying you are wrong just saying someone has to look at the fine print in regards to the local fees portion)
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Here is all this very uneducated individual knows about this crap.
In a pre Prop 13 world …
Any changes in state taxes for the purpose of increasing revenue in California had to be approved by a two thirds vote of each house of the state legislature. Meanwhile, new or increased local taxes for a specific purpose usually had to be approved by two thirds of the electorate in that local area (this is actually what Measures Q&R tried to get around and no not going into it all right now because I doubt they could try that trick again). Now exactions that are qualfied as fees though could be authorized by a majority of the legislature or the local legislative body (so in Sacramento would need five city council members with KJ being our fifth vote).
So basically Kings fans would want funding through these “fees.” Kings fans would also probably love just using the city’s general fund however there is no cash in it and the only way to get cash in there is to tax which basically ends up putting the whole project in a bad spot because that would likely be determined a tax for a “specific purpose.”
Now I know very little about Prop 26. Obviously the goal was to expand the scope of what constitutes a state or local tax and limit the scope of what qualifies as a fee. Various categories of fees under Prop 26 would require approval by either two thirds of both houses of the state legislature or two thirds of the local electorate. Prop 26 defubes a tax as “any levy, charge, or exaction of any kind imposed by the state (or local goverment)” with certain exceptions. Just from a cursory reading, I don’t see how anything we are all hoping for would fall under an exception but I spend a fierce 30 seconds reading it.
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Basically
Kings fans would want any type of funding to somehow be designated through the general fund which requires a simply majority. They are likely going to have to have a special election. In order to get all this done in time for November they need the entire financing plan done by July and I really believe that is why KJ in his recent comments said they need to get it done in May, June, or July.
The counties in the proposed JPA area all running deficits. If all the counties can’t come to an agreement by July prospects look really bleak.
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by wallywagon11 on May 4, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
From May 26 until July this thing is going to have to be a sprint
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by wallywagon11 on May 4, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Ug kind of punted that one
Kings fans would first want the hotel tax/car rental fee stuff to still be considered a fee, not a tax under Prop 26.
This most likely can’t be considered part of the general fund so kind of pointless to mention.
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by wallywagon11 on May 4, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
found in hoopshype
With the chances slim of adding a quality center with the 17th pick in the draft slim and with an unkind salary cap situation in 2011, sources close to Knicks president Donnie Walsh say he has targeted Kings 6-foot-11 shotblocker Samuel Dalembert as the likeliest free-agent catch this summer. New York Post
Yes, I believe talking publically about anyone else's free agent
is considered tampering.
Please deposit $20 million dollars into our arena fund and we’ll forget the whole thing.
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by lietothegirls on May 4, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Quick, someone smarter than me
Would raising Hotel/Rental Car taxes require a vote?
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See above...
…but the short answer is, “yes.” Fortunately, most folks will be okay with that, in that it does not directly affect them in the pocketbook.
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by SierraSpartan on May 4, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
If it comes to a vote
It looks like Here We Build might have to go on a political campaign.
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ummmm, yeah trust me
you are going to have to go on a political campaign no matter what at this point
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Sure looks that way.
This is going to be a fight. I hope they exhaust all the private options first (i.e. Webber and whoever he has) and then we can make the money more manageable.
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You are already knee deep into a political fight even if you didn’t know it.
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Ug sorry apparantly my links suck
there are a few things you have to understand
One, the Anaheim rumors will not play well in the general public. It comes off like a threat and people usually repel from that type of stuff instinctively especially in the class warfare game.
Second, you really don’t need a majority of public support right now. What is far more important right now is answering the questions of how it’s going to get paid, what are the public benefits, and what are the total costs. Right now all you really need is a vocal and organized group supporting it. All said group needs to focus on for the long haul is get organized and make good contracts. You have to crawl before you can walk and I think the 28th is a good date to start crawling.
not only that but it really isn’t too late.
Yeah this is very unlikely to be what decides whether they file this March but that is far from certain and this is very much a good time to get your voice heard when everyone is paying attention and also getting organized for the long hall battle.
and technically speaking, there are some reasons to keep the Hear We Stay thing going
because if on April 19th we wake up and see the Maloofs never filed then if Here We Stay really wants to have a voice they need to be organized and motivated when it comes to the political angle right here at city hall. They need to know each other and be in regular contract and have all their email lists lined up and have to push hard.
100 people showing up for this is much more important than 100 people buying tickets to games
sorry but it’s true
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by wallywagon11 on May 4, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
If that's the case they better get on that sooner rather than later so we can get people out there to get the word out
And get it done in time
by HeuristicLineup on May 4, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
If we do, one of the toughest obstacles will be
to shape the conversation so that people understand that the ESC is for US and not simply a hand out for the spoiled Maloofs.
"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."
Do not mention the Kings, ever in your campaigning.
Music, Disney on Ice, Concert, improving Sacramento. Nothing about the Kings
by HeuristicLineup on May 4, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting...
maybe even just calling it an Entertainment Complex so that the focus is on community entertainment and not just for sports fans?
"The Kings have nothing to lose but their games."
That's how I figure would go over best with the public
Get the public to focus on the concerts, disney on ice, and not think about the Kings, since people link the Kings to the Maloofs. I’m not politician but I figure that might be the better route to go
by HeuristicLineup on May 4, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
That'll be the main challenge...
…that, and getting around the dunderheads at the SuckBee Noise Machine who will be bound and determined to chase the Kings out of town.
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by SierraSpartan on May 4, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
call it the disney-wiggles-monster truck-neil Diamond rock concert center for all to use
and it will happen
hey dipitydoo
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by want2win on May 4, 2011 9:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Aaah, No!
Comcastle Thunder Dome it is!
by Kfan in Korea on May 4, 2011 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
How do you know that most folks will be okay with that?
I mean, you’re right that it won’t affect their pocket books… but to say people are rational like that?
If that is your opinion, here is mine: Any vote that has anything to do with this will fail. A tiny tax raise that would cost everyone a few bucks failed (I think that’s what Q&R was, anyway) was shot down by the voters. Those that won’t pay a few bucks are the same folks, for the most part, that say, “No way I’m going to vote to help those greedy (blah blah blah) a new arena!!!!!” People are irrational.
We must avoid a vote, and if we can’t, then God help us… or KJ help us… by coming up with a great marketing scheme to make people believe that a new ESC is truly going to help the region make money.
Q&R was a joke
No one supported that bill
by HeuristicLineup on May 4, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Yea but I could have left Q&R out of it
and I still think my opinion holds water… There are way too many people that will look at any vote negatively as an automatic reaction and they won’t care what kind of tax/fee it is. They will vote no unless KJ can reach them, which is a difficult task.
I get your skepticism of the initial comment about whether most folks would be okay with that
but KJ likely does not have any other choices unless a billionare is willing to poor his money into it.
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by wallywagon11 on May 4, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Unfortunate, and I think you're right
It’s going to take a marketing marvel to put the ESC in the right kind of light that will allow a vote to pass.
KJ has done a great job to get us to this point, but I think he’s going to need some serious help in winning Sacramento voters minds on this. A study on how much revenue an ESC would bring to the city/area tax-wise would be a great place start. The support that local businesses have shown demonstrates some of that, but we have a long way to go. A lot of people are more concerned about economics than having a nice ESC these days.
From the Sac Bee comments all they appear to care about is teachers and the homeless
by HeuristicLineup on May 4, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
given what is going on right now, they should be caring about teachers
a ton of pink slips have gone out. Heck if you are teacher in Sacramento unified and have more then five years of experience there is a good chance you got a pink slip.
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by wallywagon11 on May 4, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish I could say I feel bad for teachers.
But I don’t.
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A few.
Both my parents have taught at various times too. But I don’t feel bad for teachers or this educational system. It’s pointless in it’s current state IMO. Has been for 30 years.
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No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I feel bad for the teachers I know
Living in a small community and having a child at the local elementary school, I’ve gotten to know quite a few fairly well. Almost all are very good people, good teachers, but always have the axe hanging over their heads AND they are working with continuously more limited resources.
Are you saying you don’t feel bad for them because they chose a career that’s in a downward spiral right now?
Burklemaniac
Eh......
…..probably for some of them. I feel for their situation, but, again, I don’t have great empathy for the educational system in general. And, unfortunately, some of them include nice people who are incredibly effected by the crumbling of this system in general.
So, while I’m not against them personally, I’m against their general status. I think.
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+1
Government and unions have decimated their noble profession. But that’s been going on for decades.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on May 4, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Not what I said.
Not what I was trying to say. I don’t like the educational system. I DO believe that government and unions play an important role in our lives.
EvilCowtownInc: Screwin Suckaz over since 1985...... On Twitter
No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Of course they do.
Does that mean they don’t destroy some things they put their hands in?
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by caseycheesecake on May 5, 2011 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Does that mean that all corporate entities, IE, multinational congolomerates, are good for the world either?
Eh no.
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Yes they should, and tax revenue from an arena might be able to help with
The hard part is proving that and then convincing the masses…
I got zero clue what percentage of the sales tax in Sacramento goes to that but whatever percentage is what you are looking at
won’t see any property taxes. Lease payments would likely all go towards bond or loan repayment
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usually one of the big key things with these types of projects
is trying to make the money to go projects with the highest number of potential full time employees who make an income around the middle class because their money is a lot more likely to be recycled in the local economy again and again.
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It's unclear whether it would require a public vote to me
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by lietothegirls on May 4, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
It was intentionally written pretty vague
but it sure looks like it but it to me but doesn’t appear to require a super majority at least. To be honest though, regardless of Prop 26 if there is any public money in this (and I can’t see that wouldn’t happen) we’d have to issue bonds anyway to actually pay for it now and you know a tax group or Anaheim would go out and get the signatures to force a ballot measure for that anyway. It sure looks like there is going to have to be a public vote, the trick would be to try and avoid any vote that requires a super-majority.
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by wallywagon11 on May 4, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry about the first sentence
*but it sure likes like it will require a vote to me but it ….
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by wallywagon11 on May 4, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
By the way
did this article by Amick ever get fanshot here? Nothing earth shattering but good nevertheless. I think it got lost in all the excitement on Monday.
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It never got a fanshot, but someone mentioned it in a thread.
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