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a bit more well-rounded in his overall game than Crawford. He’s decent at D and Crawford is just atrocious on that end of the ball.

And Sam’s been much healthier throughout his career. I thought Tysonwas 2-3 years younger initially.

If your logic for Samuel sticking with the Kings for the rest of his career is because he seems content in Sac … don’t you think the fact the Kings are kind of up in the air might be a problem?

he wasnt here for almost 4 years………….he didnt put his full effort, and he didnt have his people stay here to help he just stood by and "said im am hopefully but i am also skeptic.

What? Sideline? You do realize he had people here working directly with state officials and the commissioner’s office gave a presentation here and openly backed the Convergence Plan here and were involved waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before the city looked at it right?

bro i understand you like to argue an optimistic fan but before you talk take everything i say into consideration before talking. i did say more than just chemistry and i did mention more than one person………..why dont you bring it all into play instead of just nit picking.

What did I not take into consideration? If this is in regards to Dalembert, relax. I was just asking a question that seemed pretty darn fair to ask. There is no right answer anyway, just wondering if you thought everything through with the whole “content in Sacramento” and “chemistory and heart” thing. These conversations are back and forths.

First, welcome, and thank you for your recent posts.

Second, learn to use the reply button.

Third, please don’t instruct other members how or what to post. If you disagree with a statement, respond to the statement. But don’t tell other members to “take everything i say into consideration before talking” or “why dont you bring it all into play instead of just nit picking”.

Again, welcome.

Write like an adult, and you will be treated like one.

“………….” is not a thing in English. It just isn’t.

A new paragraph occasionally is a real help to the reader.

If you want to debate, fantastic, but don’t be churlish about it.

I bring up the part’s of people’s posts I am commenting on. I dunno what to tell you: you want me to praise you for the other stuff I wasn’t asking you about? I wasn’t trying to trip you up or spin your words, I was honestly trying to ask you about specific things you wrote that I did not really understand, that’s it. So unless you want me to give you false praise for things I did not care to address then I dunno what to say. So yeah, yeah Webber?

yes david was out here but he never fully invested himself…….i watched a lot of what was happening in the earlier 2000’s and david stern never really put that much of an effort because he didnt think that it would happened……..thats why he pulled out a year or 2 ago before it became a heated discussion. He never was public about his involvment and stayed in the back ground.

Just letting you know in case you were unaware, after Measures Q & R were defeated on November 7, 2006, Stern announced in a press conference in public that he was flying to Sacramento in December and the commissioner’s office was going to take control of the arena issue for the Maloofs. In October of 2007, Cal Expo voted to openly negotiate with the NBA through the commissioner’s office on building a new arena on the state fairgrounds with the idea to lease some of the state owned Cal Expo 360 acres of land to a developer for buiding stores, offices, and homes. According to the Sacramento Bee, “NBA and Cal Expo offciials hope such a development could produce enough money to both fund an arena as well as refurbish the fairgrounds.” (Notice, we aren’t talking about Cal Expo and the Kings negotating but the NBA through Stern’s office). The Sacramento Bee even reported on the negotations when they extended into March of 2008 with little progress. Voison even did an interview with Stern talking about it. Then in February of 2009 Moag of the Commissioner’s office presented a mixed-use project anchored by an arena at Cal Expo which inlcuded a 350 acre “living village” with a new indoor fair space, and retail, office, and residential buildings, and a $1.9 biilion price tag.

This was all going on well before Kevin Johnson started his task force in the Fall of 2009 and without direct communications between Cal Expo and the Maloofs. Anyway, the project lagged because of the sheer cost of the whole thing and the already very much slumping real estate market. The NBA tried to negotiate other ideas. Obviously when the task force was convened in the late Fall and was then finished in December of 2009, one of the proposals was from Gerry Kamilos, along with developer David Taylor, who called for a complicated land-swap deal that woudl build an arena on city-controlled land at the downtown railyards, transfer the Arco Arena site and adjacent property to the state for a new state fairgrounds, and sell Cal Expo. Surprise surprise the NBA publicaly declared this project (there were seven of them) their favorite because they were the ones pulling it together for a few years at that point. To nobody’s surprise in March KJs’ task force officially endorsed the NBA approved Convergence Plan and by September of 2010 it fell apart.

So is that enough evidence in regards to Stern and the Commissioner’s Office for you?