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There have already been a lot of calls directed at clubs late in the lottery, with one executive suggesting that, based on the needs of the suitors, shooting sensation Jimmer Fredette is a likely target. The possibility of a pick being moved goes all the way to No. 2, where the Timberwolves continue to have conversations but know the best offers probably won’t come until the final days before the draft."

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I've read that the Bobcats really like Jimmer and Kemba

Jordan is serious about making moves but just off enough as a talent evaluator to trade up in this, yes this, draft. I would happily give up the #7 and #35 for their #9 and #19. Or the #7 for D.J. Augustin.

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by sac_faithful on Jun 12, 2011 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Not really interested in Augustin

but maybe swing Tyrus Thomas somehow? He’d be perfect next to Cousins defensively.

by LPKingsFan on Jun 12, 2011 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had considered him as well

but I think he has proven himself unable to be that defensive stud we want at the 4. He has shown flashes of potential but nothing consistent. He’s coming off the bench in Charlotte…its the same knock against Casspi, he’s coming off the bench in Sacramento.

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by sac_faithful on Jun 12, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

The veteran to add to the Kings is Tyrus Thomas?

interesting take.

I will only add that if, and of course we are all just ‘sposing, DJ Augustin is a King, then he instantly becomes the starting PG. I don’t see where this doesn’t make good sense.

That still means that another, starting veteran of established star value is added – i.e. a SF of the Iggy variety. If that doesn’t happen, perhaps at the least, a starter of some degree (i.e. Battier, Budinger, etc).

It has to be all uphill. Maybe that is Tyrus Thomas, but given the choices, I hope the Kings do better. They may not be able to, but I hope they do.
(in case it is not obvious, I am not a Tyrus Thomas fan)

by betweentheeyes on Jun 12, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

And his contract is terrible to boot

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by sac_faithful on Jun 12, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe

DJ Augustin? nice player and a pure point guard, but isnt he a liability defensively?

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by broken_360 on Jun 12, 2011 7:22 PM PDT reply actions  

because of his size, yes - he is a low post liabiity, but as far as guarding opposing PGs he does okay

according to Hollinger’s report on ESPN.

Do you think Walker or Fredette would be better? I don’t. Same questions, but he is an established pro – most of his questions have been answered. He is 6’0" tall (not 5’12") with a PER of 15.97 and is 23 years old. His current pay is $2.5M/yr.

If the Kings want a legit starting PG – he fits the bill. And, I don’t say this with too much tongue in cheek – he gets Coach HighTops endorsement.

by betweentheeyes on Jun 12, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

And at 2.5 m/yr he is a steal compared to other scenarios such as those featuring Iggy

He may not be the same level of defender that Iggy is, or a position of need (others would argue different) but he is a ball handler, not a rookie, shoots the same from distance as Iggy, and comes at a fraction of those cost.

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by sac_faithful on Jun 12, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are a lot of IFs with Jimmer

Jimmer will be good IF he can get his shot off against NBA level talent, IF he isn’t a sieve on defense, IF he can run the point, IF he can develop a floater with which he can effectively drive to the hoop cause his shot gets swatted all the time IN COLLEGE.

DJ has already proven he CAN run the point, play defense, and drive the lane.

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by sac_faithful on Jun 12, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's proven to be rather mediocre at all those things.

Let’s not kid ourselves now. Augustin’s nice and all, but he’s not that special to warrant a lotto pick, even in this draft. I’d rather take my what if’s(which IMO are much overblown) and run with the Jimmer. If he flops, so be it, but I doubt he will.

by Smills9133 on Jun 12, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we are going with potential alone then Biyombo is the guy

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by sac_faithful on Jun 12, 2011 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just draft Jimmer at 7 and be done with it.

Trying to manipulate ‘extra’ perceived value out of this draft is not only reckless, but just downright stupid. If you like a guy, just draft him. I highly doubt Jimmer goes before 7. And there’s noone in this draft that is good enough to justify moving up or down and risking losing a player like Jimmer who’s such a tremendous fit on multiple levels for the Kings franchise on the court, in the box office and in the lockerroom.

by Smills9133 on Jun 12, 2011 8:06 PM PDT reply actions  

same.

He probably has one of the best records choosing in the first round. The second not so much.

by Ultrakingsfan on Jun 12, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what Petrie will do anyway

He’s not gonna trade down, he’ll just pick who he wants where he wants, a la Jason Thompson

"What the fuck did I do?" - McNulty

by vfettke on Jun 12, 2011 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

Jimmer seems like the right fit on the court, at the box office, and in the locker room. Pick him at 7 and be done with it. Good call.

Plus, there’s plenty of capspace to sign free agents.

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by kingofpain on Jun 13, 2011 11:53 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I know Petrie doesn't usually trade down picks, but.....

If Walker, Irving and Knight are off the board at #7, I am wondering if trading down to the Pacers (#15) or 76ers (#16) plus their first round pick next year would be enticing. Pacers/76ers can draft Jimmer. At 15/16 we could target the defensive SF Chris Singleton and pick up a “possible” lottery pick in next years draft. Next year’s draft appears to be much deeper. Drafting Singleton fulfills a need and sets up with hopefully 2 lottery picks in a deeper draft.

by Fredman on Jun 13, 2011 5:25 AM PDT reply actions  

I doubt a team's going to give up a first rounder in a potentially good draft next year

To move up a few spots in a weak draft this year.

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by otis29 on Jun 13, 2011 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Plus knowing Petrie

if he really likes Singleton, he’ll just take him at 7. It may seem like a reach, but if you trade down to 15, there is a very real possibility that a team like the Warriors grab him at 11 and then you are up the creek without a paddle.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jun 13, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

if the kings are going to trade down , please do it with the bobcats Pick # 9 and # 19 for our # 7 and # 35.

by Beer_man on Jun 13, 2011 10:37 AM PDT reply actions  

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