Is Richard Jefferson Too Poisonous A Pill In Kings' Tony Parker Trade?
So the next stage of the Tony Parker trade rumor includes Richard Jefferson, as in, to get Tony Parker from the San Antonio Spurs, the Sacramento Kings would have to give up the No. 7 pick in the 2011 NBA Draft and Omri Casspi and take Richard Jefferson.
Jefferson is due $30 million over the next three seasons. He is ... not great. In San Antonio, he went from high-scoring wing to roleplaying shooter. He's overpaid -- no two ways about it. There remains a lot of shock that the Spurs signed him to the deal they did last summer, but the calculus is easy: he had a really expensive player option that the Spurs couldn't stomach given the Parker and Manu Ginobili extensions, so the Spurs worked out a deal in which he'd opt out and re-sign for a longer-term deal that significantly lessened the cap hit for 2010-11. Now, to get rid of that longer-term deal that is quickly becoming a burden.
That's both where the Kings come in, and where many fans of the Parker-for-7 rumor leave. But not me.
As Aykis16 has noted in the comments to the two previous Parker-for-7 threads, Jefferson instantly becomes the best small forward on the roster. He shoots more efficiently inside and outside the arc than Francisco Garcia, Donte Greene or Omri. He's no longer a great rebounder and was never a great passer, but he'd be replacing Garcia, Greene and Omri. He's the best shooter and scorer of the three, and would be comparable on defense. He's got experience both playing a large offensive role (with the Nets, Bucks) and a small one (Spurs). I think you could be comfortable if he was your No. 2 scorer on the floor for stretches, and you could be comfortable if he was on the court with three of your four big scorers (Parker, Tyreke Evans or Marcus Thornton and DeMarcus Cousins).
You'd like a better defender there, and someone who can help rebound to bolster that team strength. But at the same time, you're looking a gift horse in the mouth. The Spurs are selling on TONY PARKER. The team isn't "sold" on any of the picks reasonably expected to be available. If Jefferson is the tonic you have to take to get that gin, drink it. It's not that bad. It's not perfect, no no no. But it's not that bad.
As for the finances:
* The Kings have $29 million tied up for 2011-12.
* A Parker-Casspi+7 swap would leave the Kings' payroll around $40 million.
* Add in Jefferson and you're at about $49 million.
* Add in Thornton at $5-6 million starting salary and you're at $54-55 million.
* This assumes you can't include Francisco Garcia ($5.8 million) or Beno Udrih ($6.9 million) in this deal or unload one of them on another team. If you can, the cap situation looks even better.
* The cap last season was $58 million. The proposed (by the NBA, not the union) new "flex cap" is $62 million.
Depending how the labor issue shakes out, you could actually keep Samuel Dalembert at about $8 million in starting salary -- Thornton's cap hold is a ridiculously low $1 million (his qualifying offer), so you can handle Dalembert first and lock in Thornton at his $5-6 million. That puts the Kings' payroll above $60 million, depending on where Thornton and Dalembert land. But a) the Maloofs are adamant about spending and b) that leaves you with a legit playoff depth chart:
Parker / Udrih / Jeter
Evans / Thornton
Jefferson / Garcia / Greene
Cousins / Jackson / Whiteside
Dalembert / Thompson
Add in the No. 35 pick and maybe even the Spurs' No. 29 pick, if that's in the deal. You can replace Jeter with one of those, or Jackson. That's a playoff contender, at the very least, assuming reasonable health for the key players (Parker, Evans, Cousins). If Evans gets back to his ROY standard or Cousins improves his shot selection and turnovers, that's a legit playoff team.
That's the goal, right ... a better team without mortgaging the future? Unless you think the future of the franchise is sitting there at No. 7 and in this year's free agent class ...
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Thank You TZ
For bringing back the sanity. This deal is a no-brainer if it can be done. Two teams going different directions.
by Ultrakingsfan on Jun 22, 2011 10:11 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I want this trade to happen yesterday.
And there is about a 95% chance it won’t.
Ah well. I couldn’t have put it better myself TZ. This deal is a no-brainer to me, especially considering the fact that I don’t think there is a player at 7 the team is absolutely in love with, like they were with Tyreke and DeMarcus.
And this Free Agent class sucks almost as bad as the draft.
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by Aykis16 on Jun 22, 2011 10:13 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Why do think there is 95% chance it won't happen? Just curious
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Because 95% of rumored trades never happen.
In fact, its very probably we have discussed this trade more than R.C. Buford and Geoff Petrie had. The Spurs are most likely just gauging interest in Parker, and also seeing what it would take to get into the lottery of this year’s draft.
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If it's in the papers, it's already dead.
Unless it’s about Carmelo Anthony, the well, documented exception.
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Not dead necessarily
It could have also been leaked to get other teams in the mix, to up the competition from other teams interested in the 7th pick.
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by Bambooozled on Jun 22, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
If you look at the teams drafting ahead of the Kings it would appear the Raptors would be the only other Top 7 team that would consider Parker. The Cavs will not with Irving likely joining the fold with Baron Davis, the Wolves have Rubio, the Jazz have Devin Harris, and the Wiz John Wall.
I actually think the move makes sense for the Spurs. Pop has seen enough of George Hill to think he can start and they don’t want to do what the Kings did in our salad days – hold on to their stars too long – i.e. Mike Bibby traded for a bag of chips in 2008.
by VirginiaKingsFan on Jun 22, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I Can't See the Raptors Doing This
What would they the Raps trade for Parker? There’s also no way they can absorb RJ’s contract w/o sending a sizable contract back.
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by Bambooozled on Jun 22, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed.
The Kings’ ability to absorb salary is the only reason this alleged deal makes any sense, from this Spurs fan’s point of view.
[I’d also take Beno back, since we’d need a PG and George Hill is definitely not one.]
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Beno has been the most consistent King
To the point where I don’t know that they would include him in the deal. His value has definitely been increasing. You would not do wrong to get him.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
They'd include Beno in a heartbeat.
The question is if the Spurs would take Beno back.
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by Bambooozled on Jun 22, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Not if they could include Cisco and get more for Beno elsewhere
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Don’t disagree but somehow reports have them in the conversation. TP is clearly an upgrade on who they have, Jose Calderon – who I believe has enormous salary himself. Given the Raptors history and how BC runs things there – it does not make sense though.
Clearly with TP gone it opens up more minutes for George Hill who seems to be a real talent though I am unsure of his PG skills.
by VirginiaKingsFan on Jun 22, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah, I could see that...
If the Kings want to follow the mold that the Spurs used for so long then getting Parker would be a huge step in that direction. He knows how to run that system inside and out.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Well written and thought out. This deal is a no-brainer to me. This is huge year for the franchise in so many ways. Two veterans starters to go with Reke and DMC from the team that had the best record in the conference last year. I like the veteran balance it will give our team in the starting line-up and I can see this line-up bringing out some serious ‘Arco Thunder’ and a playoff berth…
by VirginiaKingsFan on Jun 22, 2011 10:15 AM PDT reply actions
Can the Maloofs pony up that cash?
I am curious about that. They just lost the Palms, seem to be in a financial tailspin, and have stated they can’t afford to stay in Sac. I just have to wonder if they can even really pay the salary to get this talent.
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
It's only about $15M more than last season.
I know that sounds like a lot, but it’s the price of doing business in the NBA.
Well it is good to hear that they can afford it.
I think there has been a question mark regarding whether or not the Maloofs have the financial means to remain NBA owners. Part of me fears that they will promise to do a lot and then stick to the salary minimum or just above it…
I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...
Tix sales would go waaay up
3 million at least I’d think
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by lietothegirls on Jun 22, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Part of losing the Palms means losing their debt with the Palms
which helps a lot in the short term
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Hell yes.
The saddest part of all this is that RJ probably makes more $ this year than the Maloofs.
This.
Oops, just re-read the topic and realized the vagueness of my response.
I say do the trade. Taking RJ + TP = Win.
This.
yep no brainer to me too.
I can’t believe we could add Parker without losing Reke, DMC or Thornton
RJ is a boss!
He had the fifth highest 3 point % last year in the NBA and first at the SF position. Even with the price, he’s still worth it. We’d likely have to overpay to get anyone of that caliber in FA.
I am so meh about this draft that even Richard Jefferson
doesn’t sound bad in comparison. Normally, a declining Jefferson would rank high on the meh meter but there is not one single player in this draft that I think would make a material difference to the Kings.
While Omri may well turn into the player we’ve been expecting under Pop’s coaching that is the price the Kings would have to pay to make the deal happen. Tony Parker and Richard Jefferson would radically improve the team and get it on a winning trajectory. I think the constant losing has depressed the games of the rooks and young vets and the beginning of a winning tradition in Sac could be the thing they need to get excited about raising their games.
Well done TZ, you’ve sold me.
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by Bluejohn on Jun 22, 2011 10:30 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It's not a legit playoff team until they get a coach
Parker was amazing in under Popovich, but with a rudimentary, inept offensive system, poor preparation and baffeling substitution patterns the Kings won’t improve very much.
We've seen legit playoff teams coached by
Mike Brown, Mike Dunleavy and Larry Bird coached legit playoff teams.
PW may need to go eventually, but the players make the biggest difference.
+1
Players do most of the heavy lifting.
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by caseycheesecake on Jun 22, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
PW did take a team to the Finals as well
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jun 22, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Was it caseycheesecake
That had the “No Jimmer” gif with the little puppydog looking all sad? I think that might explain what’s behind some of the naysaying of this deal.
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Ah, found it
http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2011/6/15/2226097/trade-rumor#69744060
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I'd say it's more like this

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I don't buy that
I’m a pretty big Jimmer fan. But just like you don’t put Darko and Vlade in the same sentance, you don’t put Jimmer and Parker in the same sentence. Good he be that good. Sure. It’s not impossible. But it’s like saying a rookie receiver is more valuable than Jerry Rice in his prime.
You’re actually not seeing many people against this trade, and the few that are haven’t said anything about Fredette. I honestly think almost any trade you could suggest would have at least a handful of people against it. But this is as close to a no-brainer as we’ve seen in awhile.
It comes down to reality
And it's fine with me 'cause I've let it slide
by SavageBeast on Jun 22, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They can't mention Fredette
Because it’s in their subconscious driving them to hate the deal. That’s my point. :)
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So they are suncpnciously thinking about their Jimmer?
It comes down to reality
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by SavageBeast on Jun 22, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Jesus Christ!
The Spurs won 61 games with these two guys starting – how bad could it be!
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by Bambooozled on Jun 22, 2011 10:39 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I would go as far as to say this trade is to good to be possible
This team would have a set roster with absolutely no real weaknesses. Think about it.
Top flight PG to compete in a PG driven league? Check!
Dominating young 2 guard? Check!
Great 3 point shooting veteran SF? Check!
Low post scoring multi-skilled PF? Check!
Defensive, shot blocking presence to hold down the paint? Check!
Very good back up PG? Check!
Crazy bench scoring 6th man? Check!
Good back up SF? We’ve got 2! Check!
A defensive specialist to come in & handle the guys RJ can’t? Check!
A great 3rd big off the bench? Check!
Depth? Check!
Every damn team in the league has atleast one weakness! Lakers need a PG, Miami needs a center, Chicago needs a 2 guard, etc, etc.
I love beating dead horses.
by allbenji's on Jun 22, 2011 10:52 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
this trade makes too much sense
PULL THE TRIGGER GP
If it does happen its not going to happen until right before the Kings pick.
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by Bambooozled on Jun 22, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Also there are rumors about an amnesty clause in the new CBA
Jefferson could be that guy if his production drops off even more or if we just want to cut bait. like everyone else: no brainer.
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by sac_faithful on Jun 22, 2011 10:55 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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They could have written $30 million dollar check to hold onto the Palms another year, I don’t think they have it.
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They only had to pay $30 million on the promissory note?
by wallywagon11 on Jun 22, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd do this 6 days a week...
And twice on Sunday.
Sure RJ is a little overpaid, but the Kings would be addressing their two biggest needs in one swoop. And all they’d be giving up is a lottery pick in a one-player draft and Omri (whom I love but is also one of the few assets worth trading). That is no-brainer territory.
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by RingAroundThePosey on Jun 22, 2011 10:56 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Just something to think about...
Parker’s career high in minutes played is 34.4 minutes per game. For comparison’s sake, Beno played 34.6 minutes per game last year, and Tyreke has been over 37 in each of his first two years. Not sure if it means anything, but I found it interesting that he played less minutes than I expected.
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To me that means there won't be too many problems with minutes.
Between Beno, Tyreke, Thornton, and Parker we would have three guards at least capable of playing point and three guards capable of playing shooting guard. There’s only so many minutes to go around and I really have a hard time cutting into minutes for a guy like Thornton who thrived when starting last year.
Considering Parker’s age and how many games he’s played, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to reduce his minutes a little bit. Same with Reke, though in his case it would be to limit injuries rather than for age.
You Do this
You only make this trade if they take either Garcia or Udrih. I could see the spurs taking on Garcia possibly.
You had me at...
…Tony Parker, Kings starting Point Guard.
Deals like this (and contracts like Jeffersons) are the reason for having cap space—it’s not an asset if you don’t use it.
I can’t honestly say something this good was even on my radar—I’ve been mentally trying to picture the Feltons, Teagues, Barreas, and Walkers of the world in our backcourt, and suddenly getting a glipse of a guy like TP has me downright giddy.
I don’t think it would be blasphemy to compare TP to a modern day KJ—sure, Johnson might have been a little more explosive in his prime and a little better assist guy, but Parker is a superlative player.
I’d do this in a second—and the fact that Jefferson becomes our best player at a position of need does’t hurt, either.
by Gunrock on Jun 22, 2011 11:12 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
GET THIS THE FUCK DONE PETRIE!
pretty please

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by vfettke on Jun 22, 2011 11:13 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Kittens shouldn’t use such language.
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by caseycheesecake on Jun 22, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Parker, Evans, Jefferson, Dmc, Daly
Udrih, Thornton, Jt, Garcia, Donte, off the bench
This is a playoff team my friends.
No, it is not.
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I think it is a playoff team as well
remember, SA is out of the playoffs, Phx might be, if Memphis cannot re-sign Gasol, I don’t really believe in Denver and Nene might be moving . . .
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by lietothegirls on Jun 22, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
A veteran PG and an all-star too boot, just what I've been dreaming off, But
The #7 pick in this draft plus Casspi seems cheap. JR is owed $30M and he’s probably worth half that much. So, basically if we do the deal we’ll be paying Max money $17.5M over the next 3 years for Parker.
Now, there is no arguing that Parker makes this team better, but is that worth the price. You have to value what the player brings to the team, and not just the player himself. If the Spurs where to take back Cisco then it’s an absolute no brainer.
But, for the price Felton might be a better deal for the Kings. He’s younger, a better defender, a better assist man, almost as good scoring, and he’d cost half the price if you include the extra salary your paying JR. And, Felton might be available without giving up the #7.
I believe obtaining Felton is a more likely prospect, but if JR has to be included without the Spurs taking back either Beno or Cisco (preferably Cisco), then I’d have to think long and hard. Parker and JR for Cisco, Casspi and our #7, done deal with out hesitation.
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by HighTops on Jun 22, 2011 11:24 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
this this this!
I think either trade is a good idea but i see more value in getting Felton. No disrespect to Parker, he is a fantastic talent. but over all bang for your buck i say Felton as well
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I'd call "bang-for-your buck", being an instant contender.
Anything else is being cheap for the sake of being cheap.
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by Balky Needs on Jun 22, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Felton won't make the PR splash that this franchise needs though
I just looked up his numbers though – wow
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by lietothegirls on Jun 22, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
RJ
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by sac_faithful on Jun 22, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Kings need to shake it up somehow
Parker for 7 and the baggage that would come with that are not the perfect solution, but it would certainly shake up the team and energize the fanbase. But the Felton plan seems more realistic and cost effective. The Kings just need a good Point Guard and keep the young players who are producing for them. Omri has not shown any signs of being a breakout player. He is mired in the role player mold. Greene is not the answer. So what do the Kings do? I hope Petrie is thinking long and hard about the next move the Kings make because it will effect the team for several years to come.
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Only one problem here...
The logic is based on the assumption that the Maloofs will spend 60 million on the roster next season.
by DerekRE_3 on Jun 22, 2011 11:33 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
They have said
that they are willing to spend.
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Right...they didn't say how much
Kings are at 29 mil right now. They never said they’d spend the entire salary cap. They could spend 20 mil this offseason and still have another 10 mil or so in cap space.
by DerekRE_3 on Jun 22, 2011 11:59 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
correct.
but with Parker and RJ we would have some redundancies at some positions. Which could possibly mean some off loading could be done. unless you have figured that into your total
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I'm going off what TZ had in his post
Well the redundancies you are talking about would be Beno and Cisco. At best the spurs take on Cisco in that deal.
I dunno how we dump Beno to be honest. I just don’t see many teams trading for him. And we’d still have to match salary in a trade. I only see contenders wanting Beno in a mid year playoff push kind of deal, so we couldn’t just trade him to a team with cap space (contenders pretty much never have cap space).
by DerekRE_3 on Jun 22, 2011 12:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Thats a great take.
however i think Beno would Draw some definitive interest from eastern teams on the bubble. the price to get into the playoff’s out yonder hasn’t been as hard as it has been in the west a team like the pacers or Wizards (who could be better next year who knows) i think would find him quite useful. this is just my opinion of course. and as i have stated before i am only a fool with a keyboard.
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There is NOTHING to think about here.
We do this deal immediately if it is available.
You simply don’t pass on acquiring a star at 29 for 4 years of a good contract (at a position of need, at potentially the hardest position to fill). Jefferson’s contract isn’t even THAT horrible. He is a past all-star who is 31 years old and was the 4th option on his team’s offense.
by Hoops Mike on Jun 22, 2011 11:43 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
For being the
4th option i would say he did fairly well (scoring wise)
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honestly though
do we really need him to score a ton?? yeah we would need him to knock down some 3’s but i think having a Defender at the SF is really what we need
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I don't disagree.
I see Jefferson as being a better wing defender than anyone we currently have.
Donte is far too inconsistent. Jefferson will do nothing to hurt us.
Now that the potential trade took shape
I have to say that I like it. I am not keen on Parker but both of these guys are a really big upgrade for the team.
I admire Jefferson a lot. He came in the league as a one sided highflyer who couldn’t shoot further than Biyombo and gradually he became an almost marginal all-star with good range and a decent all around game. Last season 3p% stats won’t be repeated. I’m pretty sure about that, but he has made huge strides, even though I’m not convinced he has a better 3p than Casspi (it doesn’t matter because he’s much better in everything else). One reason his 3p% was that high last year is the Spurs’ system for corner 3s. The corner three is in a closer range compared to the rest of the arc, and the Spurs have a habit of taking advantage of that (they had the best pct last season in the league). 62% of Jefferson’s 3s were attempted in the corners. He shot 46% from the corners and a “normal” 38% from the rest of the perimeter.
He was a great 2nd scorer in the Nets and I still remember some long periods when Carter was out and Jefferson was averaging around 20-25ppg. His numbers went down on the Spurs mostly because of the.. Spurs. The team had many more solutions so he took a more background role.
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by ZenBaller on Jun 22, 2011 11:50 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This post is a pretty good indication why you’re SBN’s lead basketball writer.
Phenomenal work. One of the better articles I’ve read in a while.
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Parker is an established veteran who could teach DMC how to run it with him. This is what some of us have been waiting for.
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by kwill on Jun 22, 2011 11:58 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Here's what troubles me
According to Sham (and this only reflects salaries for 11-12), Frank + RJ Donte = 16,761,914. Our current guys (FrankDonte+Omri) = 8,821,874. Is what RJ brings to the table really worth an extra 8 mil?
If Frank could be moved it would certainly help, but I don’t see him being much of a commodity.
I agree with this part.
Jefferson is due $30 million over the next three seasons. He is … not great.
I am all for Tony Parker, but not the least bit interested in an over the hill, over paid Jefferson. I sure don’t want to dump, Beno for him.
Tony yes; Jefferson, no thank you.
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My only issue with this trade...
is that this would be the team. We would no longer have much cap space, and that cap space is only going to shrink once Tyreke is resigned and DeMarcus is resigned. So, if we are confident that one or both of those guys are going to be stars, and if the job is just to build around them, then this is a really good trade. Although, since Jefferson’s contract only runs for three years, it would give us three likely seasons in the playoffs, and if its not working, we can adjust from there. Idk, there are some contractual issues though.
Parker and Jefferson
would basically be out of contract by the time you need to extend Cousins.
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Exactly
I don’t see Parker and Jefferson’s contracts harming our long term future. Maybe if you add in Dalembert, but If this offer is seriously on the table, GP needs to pull the trigger.
We could finally have a well-rounded team with very good talent at all positions.
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Yes!
This is the kind of turn around we need. It answers the clearest issues we have, and it would give us the best summer I can remember since C-Webb and Vlade came to town. Parker may not be C-Webb, seeing as he’s a future HoF PF, but Parker adds what this team needs, and would really help our young guys. I don’t even look at Beno or Cisco as being redundant, I look at it as depth. I basically look at it as "Are we giving up Leonard/Jimmer/Walker + Financial flexibility for a couple years + Extra Asset (Cisco/Omri/Beno) for TP and RJ, again, reading what others have written, I don’t think RJ is washed up, and I definitely don’t have concerns about what Parker can bring to our team. Putting Felton and Parker in the same sentence as replaceable is just foolish in my opinion.
One other thought is that I look at a “Celing/Basement” approach with each player. Felton’s best doesn’t touch Parkers best. Same with their worst. It’s no comparison.
Shuumtimes!
Well said.
I see the situation exactly the same as you do.
I don’t think there is a down side. Short of them trading us Parker for Pooh Jeter, they couldn’t make this much more enticing (if it is, in fact, true).
I don't agree.
RJ averages 11ppg, 1,3 apg, 3.8 rpg. He is expensive, hurts financial flexibility, he is 31-years-old and he isn’t getting any younger. That isn’t something I am going to write home about.
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That's a very basic look at Richard Jefferson's game.
There’s more to it than that.
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by CaliforniaJag on Jun 22, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
You're welcome to disagree
We read a lovely bit on that in the rules for StR post earlier. However, as has been stated, RJ was the 4th option on the Spurs. I agree he hurts financial flexibility, but I don’t see that being a problem this summer or next summer, and after that I don’t really know. I’m willing to bite the bullet for Parker. That’s the more important part of my post. To me, Tony Parker represents making Evans and Cousins much better with having a natural PG on the floor. If you don’t think DMC will listen to TP, or if you think that Evans would feel threatened by him, that’s fair, but he makes our team better. He brings what we are missing. I just don’t see RJ as a poison pill that’s too big to swallow for him, and that’s what the title of the main post is. Jefferson isn’t great, but I think he’ll have more opportunity here, and together they make us better than the #7, FA the next two years and/or Casspi/Beno/Cisco make us.
Shuumtimes!
I didn't say anything about a problem with Tony Parker.
If you don’t think DMC will listen to TP, or if you think that Evans would feel threatened by him, that’s fair,
I didn’t say anything of the kind. My issue is with RJ. For the amount of money in this trade, I don’t want to be a little bit better. It needs to be substantially better.
The key to any game is to use your strengths and hide your weaknesses.
-Paul Westphal
RIght-o
I wasn’t saying you did. I was saying “If there IS a problem, such as ______” Then maybe there’s more. I just think that Parker makes the kids substantially better while filling a need. In addition, I think RJ is a starter and also would be good for the team. He might be more on the marginal side, but at least he’s a legit starter. I think with TP, Reke, RJ, DMC, and Sammy that you have a starting line up even PW won’t mess with much. Then you have good depth. Not just guys filling the padded seats. JT, Donte, MT23, and whoever is left (Beno/Cisco/Omri/Whiteside/Jackson/Jeter/2nd rounders/FA Minimum Pickups) makes our team able to win 15 more games which should put us in the playoff.
I get that your issue is with RJ. I wouldn’t trade for him straight up. But if he is what we have to take in order to get Tony Parker? I’m all over that because I think the rest of the dominoes work out so nicely.
Shuumtimes!
This trade would really force our kids to grow the F up and get serious about winning basketball.
I like it. Man up or get shipped out.
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by caseycheesecake on Jun 22, 2011 12:31 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
A vet SF who can play some D and hit 3's?
This is what most of us have been wishing for.
And then they added in Tony Parker.

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