Isaiah Thomas Picked No. 60 By Kings, Completing Wild NBA Draft
by Tom Ziller on Jun 23, 2011 9:17 PM PDT
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The Sacramento Kings finished off the 2011 NBA Draft by taking Washington Huskies point guard Isaiah Thomas with the No. 60 pick on a night in which the team's backcourt was completely remade. The Kings had already traded Beno Udrih to the Milwaukee Bucks and selected Jimmer Fredette in the lottery. Thomas could replace Pooh Jeter as the new fourth guard in the Kings' rotation, assuming Marcus Thornton is retained.
The Thomas pick caps off an interesting night, not just for the Kings but for the NBA. There's no telling when we as basketball fans will again have something to celebrate, given the labor situation. I really cannot wait to see Thomas and Tyler Honeycutt compete with the incumbents, or see Jimmer and Tyreke Evans pair up, or -- yes -- seeing John Salmons tilt his head and drive to the hoop. Even if it didn't turn out quite as expected or hoped, it's basketball. It's what we love.
Welcome to Sacramento, new Kings. Hope you stay (and the team) stay a while.
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i hope all of them make the cut.
"And Solskjaer has won it!"
by 'tough as nails' spence on Jun 23, 2011 9:19 PM PDT reply actions
Amen TZ!
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its questions like these that make STR oh so lovely.
is this the part where i make a joke about us bringing in Isaiah’s dad to help out with front-office decision-making?
Honeycutt should
Thomas, as TZ mentioned is gonna battle Pooh for minutes/ roster spot.. I just don’t know who is better
Is cowboyron a chiropractor?- Wallywagon11
its questions like these that make STR oh so lovely.
cant lie, i always feel bad for the last few players taken.
instead of getting to pick a situation that is favorable, they have to go and fight for a spot on a team with no guaranteed deal.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Great last point
Even if trading for John Salmons is lunacy, we still have a team. Let’s keep it that way.
Here’s a look at our roster depth chart right now:
PG: Tyreke Evans, Jimmer Fredette, Pooh Jeter, Isaiah Thomas
SG: Marcus Thornton, Francisco Garcia
SF: John Effing Salmons, Omri Casspi, Donté Greene, Tyler Honeycutt
PF: Jason Thompson, Darnell Jackson
C: DeMarcus Cousins, Hassan Whiteside
That’s 14 players. 15 if we re-sign Dalembert. Both Pooh and Darnell have unguaranteed contracts if they are waived. Isaiah and Honeycutt as 2nd rounders could possibly not make the team.
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Has any word been heard from the Kings
In any kind of official way as to the logic of the Salmons deal? I didn’t like the deal when it happened and I just finished Hollinger’s post mortem on the trade and it just pissed me off further. Sorry to dump a bit more salt in your open wound!
Petrie said something to the effect
of how Salmons is versatile and can defend a few positions and that they’re looking forward to him being back.
We’ll get more after the Press Conference which is happening right now at PBP Practice Facility.
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westphal said on the radio that they obviously like salmons a ton since they traded down to get him
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Yeah, but what's he gonna say?
“I think he’s a bum, and I’m looking forward to the day I never have to see him again.”
As for his contract, part of me wonders if the Maloofs don’t plan on owning this team in three years.
I think this trade could be a positive if Salmons is willing to accept a diminished offensive role.
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if you look at his past success it was when he was the main option.
he played well when martin was out. hows he going to play next to tyreke. both are ball stoppers.
petrie describes him like he is scottie pippen or something.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
That's likely what he's most comfortable with.
But he’s going to have to change at least a little, because there’s only so much ball to go around.
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I don't see how this trade can be a success PERIOD.
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Even with Dalembert
I don’t see that team making the playoffs.
Hope there are more moves in the works.
by boredwiththeUSA on Jun 23, 2011 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Jimmer says he's probably going to wear #7
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Who is the last player to wear #7 for us?
"That might've been a little push, but that was a major flop. That would make Vlade Divac very proud." - Jerry Reynolds
Looks like Dominic McGuire
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Ahhhh, yes that's right.
Tried to put a name to that face. Dom McGuire on the other hand, I just blanked on. Only thing I remember is that he posted a triple-double for Charlotte this year.
"That might've been a little push, but that was a major flop. That would make Vlade Divac very proud." - Jerry Reynolds
If only Isaiah can bring this confidence, swag and skill to Sactown..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEGP6nBiub8
"That might've been a little push, but that was a major flop. That would make Vlade Divac very proud." - Jerry Reynolds
According to Jon Santiago
Westphal and Petrie said they are not done making moves. I would hope not.
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by Aykis16 on Jun 23, 2011 9:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
After that trade,
I’d keep moving, too.
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by section214 on Jun 23, 2011 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ha ha I love this site.
What I like about all you guys here is that you all make me laugh. Even when I don’t agree with you all I can’t help but smile.
by Passive Sloth on Jun 23, 2011 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
When is the last time you saw me Smills?
I am not that creepy… anymore.
by Passive Sloth on Jun 23, 2011 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha! I just clicked on it and read what it said. That was funny.
I love turning english words into spanish words. It is my second favorite pasttime.
by Passive Sloth on Jun 23, 2011 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no confidence
In Petrie’s ability to remedy this catastrophe of a situation. This trade was garbage either way you slice it.
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If you liked Jimmer so much, why not just take him at #7. What the crap could be so appealing about picking up John Salmons again and his bloated contract. Beno Udrih>John Salmons last year and younger and less expensive and not to mention the team has FIVE small forwards now. This is worse than David Kahn like. At least David Kahn didn’t give up MOVE DOWN IN THE DRAFT TO PICK UP A WORSE, OLDER AND MORE EXPENSIVE PLAYER THAT CREATES A LOGJAM IN THE WINGS.
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AND NOT TO MENTION
A WORSE FIT THAN TONY PARKER. YEAH TALKING TO YOU SMILLS.
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So we've got 12 guys at about $40m,
and this includes the rookies (give or take a half mil depending on whether Thomas or Jeter wins the backup backup PG job), but does not include Darnell Jackson. It also inlcudes about $6m for Thornton, which is probably more than anyone will offer him. So if the cap is indeed going to remain in the upper $50m region, we’ve got a crap load of money to throw at someone. But who?
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Bogut would be great
But I don’t see the Bucks letting him go. But without Daly (a good possibility), we have to get another big.
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I'm hoping Marc Gasol.
Yea, I’m being optimistic about our future.
Seriously though, “John Salmons?”
"Contraction, I didn't say anything about contraction. I'm talking about shrinking the league." - Lebron James
Thanks Lebron, for reminding me how miserable my life is.
He ain't walking through those doors.
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S&T with Memphis
SamWow for 6 mil and Salmons for Gasol @ around 15 /16
...Watching DeMarcus Cousins’ transformation from large human to immortal kill beast...
I would go after Gasol
I would give him the Max deal he can get, and watch our front court be set for years. That would be a huge front line.
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Would we have enough cap space to offer the max to Gasol?
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Yes
What I don’t know is what max for Gasol would be. Horford and Noah each got 5 yr. / $60m deals, but Memphis could probably match that. Gasol, as a 2nd round pick, might not be hamstrung by that same scale – I just don’t know.
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he isnt.
same thing that happened with arenas and boozer i think
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
So -
The Kings could probably make him an offer that Memphis would have a tough time matching, or at least overpay to the point that Memphis won’t want to match. And they could probably get away with it, as they would shed Garcia’s contract in time to extend Evans and Salmons’ contract in time to extend Cousins.
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So....
Because he was picked in the 2nd round, he could actually get more on his next contract?
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not that it is more.
1st rd contracts have all those options and restricted free agency years.
i am under the impression that 2nd rd picks, since the contracts arent slotted and guaranteed, go right into unrestricted free agency- like any other contract that ends.
am i incorrect?
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
I don't know
ShamSports shows him as restricted, but ESPN shows him as unrestricted I believe.
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well if he is restricted, then that sucks for us.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
We talked about this last night a bit
Look at his stats, it would be insane to give this guy the max.
He rates among the top 10 in centers in the league in just about zero categories. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a fine player, but the max? Let someone else make that mistake.
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How much did the Kings gain by getting Jimmer at 10 vs. at No. 7?
Maloofs still in penny-saving mode?
"His D was a difference at the end."
I think it's between 500 to 600 thousand the first year and then decreases each year.
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When you factor in the 3 year rookie scale, they saved a total of about $2m
But they committed $9.9m more when you compare Salmons to Udrih, so they increased total salary by almost $8m. If you look at just the two year period (because Udrih is not under contract in the 3rd year but Salmons is), the difference would be a total increase of about $1m.
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Consider this
If we would have desired to keep Beno past his current contract, wouldn’t the salary he’d be demanding be a wash with what Salmons will get? So I think it “nets” with what Beno would have received.
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unless he greatly improves, beno is going to take a pay cut on his next deal.
plain and simple.
but thats ok, we’ll be paying salmons $8 million when he is almost 35
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
I'm not worried about him being 35
Salmons keeps himself in great, and I mean great shape.
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He sure did
When he put up that crapfest in Milwaukee last year. You can be in great shape but point of the matter was he was TERRIBLE last year and cost the team more financially. Just makes no sense.
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Udrih will be 31 when his contract expires
He is not starter material. I can’t envision that the Kings would have wanted to retain him, especially for tangible dollars.
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Fair enough
Then how much would it have costed to get a starting PG, though I think Thornton is the guy they have in mind?
I guess the point is, most of the time we get what we pay for. Aside from any Parker deal that could or could not of happened, spending 15 mill (6.9 for Beno, 6 for Thornton and 2 for Jimmer?) for 3 PGs would be way too much for average talent, and without getting a starting SF.
Don’t get me wrong. I have yelled at the tv many times when Salmons was playing. Hopefully this was the best deal. I just don’t know.
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not making the deal would have been better.
i mean what did we gain?
does salmons’ skill set really make the kings better?
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Yes. I think so.
Thornton is better than Beno and will now start. Salmons is better than any other SF we have. So I say yess.
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Speaking of "chin boobs"
But don’t tell him I said that. I don’t want to get my arse kicked.
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The big winner today is Francisco Garcia
Congratulations Cisco.
You no longer have the worst contract on the team and will no longer be the focus of my scorn and ridicule.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
Isaiah scored really high on the Dalt system rankings for a pick this late
That tickles my fancy on this pick
Where's my pie
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