This Aaron Brooks Rumor Doesn't Add Up
by Aykis16 on Jun 26, 2011 12:09 PM PDT
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PrintThe latest rumor in regards to our Sacramento Kings comes from the New York Daily News (thanks to Crocoduck for the FanShot).
Here is the rumor:
With Jimmer Fredette's addition to a backcourt featuring Tyreke Evans, Sacramento doesn't have a playmaker, but the answer might come in free agency, whenever that is. The Kings plan on making a pitch for the Suns' Aaron Brooks, who is restricted. Phoenix made him a qualifying offer on Thursday.
The Kings have liked Aaron Brooks for ages, but this still doesn't make sense for a myriad of reasons.
1. The New York Daily News is not a reliable source when it comes to Sacramento Kings information. I'll stick to local sources or Sam Amick (who is both local and national).
2. Aaron Brooks is a Restricted Free Agent. Any offer given to him can be matched by the Phoenix Suns. To prevent the Suns from matching, they'd have to make Brooks an offer that Phoenix would find unappealing. This would likely mean overpaying Brooks.
3. The Kings just traded an overpaid PG for an overpaid SF to clear up minutes for Jimmer Fredette. Why would they then re-clog that lineup by adding Brooks? Fredette has been brought in because he's supposed to be able to make an impact right away.
4. There are 96 minutes at the PG and SG spots. The Kings have the following players who look to see minutes at those spots: Tyreke Evans, Marcus Thornton (it's likely he'll re-sign), Jimmer Fredette, Francisco Garcia, and John Salmons (who is more of a two than a three really). Where does Aaron Brooks playing time come in? The Kings also may have Pooh Jeter and/or Isaiah Thomas for spot minutes or as injury insurance (it remains to be seen whether Jeter's team option will be picked up or if Thomas makes the team).
5. The rumor says the Kings are without a playmaker. Aaron Brooks is not a playmaker. He has a lower career Assist Rate than Tyreke Evans. Brooks is a scorer first and foremost. He's also not that consistent of a shooter, with a career 3P% of .363, not that much better than the recently departed Beno Udrih, and he's much worse from the rest of the field than Udrih, with a career .411 FG%.
6. Aaron Brooks is a high usage player. Almost as high as Tyreke Evans and Marcus Thornton in fact.
7. Brooks is a defensive sieve, which is why Houston didn't even consider signing him to an extension and instead opted to make his backup Kyle Lowry their PG of the future. Last time I checked, the Kings were trying to get better defensively.
Do I need to keep going? Aaron Brooks does not fit on this roster. The only way he does is if the Kings do not re-sign Marcus Thornton, which appears to be very, very unlikely. Sorry NY Daily News, but I'm not buying what you're selling.
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Nice writeup Aykis..
Agreed, this makes absolutely no sense. Brooks is about the last person I think we’d go for in FA..
lol, You can have brooks, if you really want him. In fact, I think the Suns should be willing to let him go in free agency
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Before Jimmer, maybe. I do think Brooks is underrated right now. He started last year on fire before the dreaded high ankle sprain derailed his season.
However, he’d cost too much money and be too redundant at this point.
We still could use a veteran PG, but someone who is more of a true PG and can play some D. Brooks is the antithesis of that.
This is exactly why I wrote the FanPost & Poll a couple of days ago
(see http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2011/6/24/2241911/nary-a-point-guard )
The overwhelming sense among StR respondants was that Jimmer should be our starting PG (as you state above), and the preferred way to go seems to be adding a big man via FA who can also be a distributor (Cf. the Princeton offense).
I still have to see if he can be a quality distributor at the NBA level to go all in on Fred, but if so, with a skilled big man then we would have a starting 5 where everyone can create their own shot. Unfortunately, this alone a successful NBA team does not make — we will need crisp passing to get truly open looks — and I think the ability to move the ball, especially in the halfcourt set, will be critical. But if everybody agrees to look to pass first…
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too much of a log jam…
on another note, I have been reading a lot about going after Marc Gasol. But what if the front office is going after a different impact big? I am thinking DeAndre Jordan possibly. Does anybody thing that might be our intention or is the front office looking for more of a veteran big?
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jun 26, 2011 12:47 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
My take from a little less than a month ago -
DeAndre Jordan, C, 6-11, 265, age 22, 3 years NBA – OK, so take a kid that is at one time projected to go in the upper reaches of his draft. But questions about his motor and maturity drop him into the 2nd round, where he is ultimately selected 35th. He doesn’t do much over his first couple of years, but over the last couple of months of his 3rd season he averages 8 and 8 and blocks a couple of shots a game (he even eclipses 50% from the free throw line over that period – a first for him!). If you’re the Sacramento Kings and this is Hassan Whiteside, no worries, as you have options on the kid through his 4th year. But if you’re the Clippers, you must now decide whether or not you want to pony up for DeAndre Jordan. Jordan showed some glimpses of his talent down the stretch last year. Was it maturation finally realized or someone playing for his next contract?
The Clippers have the room to keep Jordan. Not including him, they have 10 guys under about $45m worth of contract, and Chris Kaman is entering the last year of his contract, due $12.7m. The question is how much it will cost the Clippers to retain Jordan. Big men are still (and always) at a premium in the league, and it only takes one team to offer Jordan a deal that the Clippers would deem as too rich for Donald Sterling’s vampire blood. Could teams like Toronto see Jordan as the answer to their interior needs? Could the Dubs see Jordan as a viable yin to David Lee’s yang? As far as the Kings are concerned? I’d rather spend the money on Dalembert, even if it meant spending a couple million more per year. That said, I don’t think that the Clips will let him get away, as Jordan should benefit greatly from the arrival of Kyrie Irving…oops, scratch that.
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by section214 on Jun 26, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
nice
I would also rather keep Dalembert if we had the option of either him or DeAndre.
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by lemmetakeutodamovies on Jun 26, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
i'd take DeAndre J over Dalembert
if he’s slightly cheaper… theres just a higher ceiling there especially if we ever get a defense mind coach. To me he’s a young Tyson Chandler… And I dont see all the fuzz on Dalembert anyway… he’s a good starting center,, but if someone else wants to overpay Daly them let them be upset when he starts declining next year
by jadams12 on Jun 26, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Flip side
Jordan’s best month of his career was an 8.4ppg/9.7 rpg run, while Dalembert averaged a double double over the last three months of the season. Jordan shot a career best 45% from the line last year. For emphasis, 45% – career best.
I think that Dalembert is probably 3 years away from declining, as centers age a lot further into their career than guards and wings. You know what you’re getting with Dalembert, while Jordan still has a lot of unknown to him.
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by betweentheeyes on Jun 26, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
And don't discount his health history either
His injury with Sac was a fluke. He has been a soldier for most his career.
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by sac_faithful on Jun 27, 2011 5:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Not Brooks related
but why is John Salmons more of a 2 than a 3? I guess before I start arguing with everyone I should ask what you consider a 2 and what you consider a 3. Because to me, Salmons has the skills of your prototypical 3. Now, I’m not a huge fan of this trade and I’m not saying Salmons is awesome, but the things he does falls pretty in line with what your natural 3 would do. Even though he isn’t all that great at them.
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what is the difference between the skills of a prototypical 3 and a prototypical 2?
by wallywagon11 on Jun 26, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
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by section214 on Jun 26, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
Petrie was pretty clear
he was looking to add major talent in the frontcourt, which seems another way to tell “I think we’re pretty set for now in the backcourt”, so I don’t see the Kings making any kind of offer for Brooks.
I’d love to see them try to trade with Atlanta for Smith or Charlotte for Thomas, though.
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Agree
The backcourt is much improved, the whole rotation. If we resign Sammy the 4 and 5 are great too. And, Salmons is a stop gap at the 3. The only additions the Kings should be looking for going forward are star acquisitions. Brooks ain’t it.
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by sac_faithful on Jun 26, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Kind of a sidenote
but I do wonder what would the reaction be if Dally does not want to resign and the Mavericks, after resigning Chandler, dumped Haywood’s contract on us.
4 yrs. / $35m
I don’t know that I would be overjoyed, but I could make my peace with it.
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I would want someone in the Kings organization to show me where in the NBA Thesauras the words "major upgrade" and Brendon Haywood reside
by betweentheeyes on Jun 26, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I would want someone to show me where
I used the term “major upgrade.”
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I was tying in PanzerFaust comment and he mentioned major talent in the frontcourt
So it’s his fault I misinterpreted the comments and added my own flavor.
what’s a little major between friends?
by betweentheeyes on Jun 26, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah -
I would agree 100% that an upgrade of (say) Nene or M.Gasol or even Millsap would be light years better than Haywood. I think that a guy like Haywood comes into play after most other options have dried up, including Dalembert.
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Acquiring Salmons and Haywood this offseason
Would be incredibly disappointing.
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yet wouldn't be surprised at all
I have no clue if Nene is going to be all that available but I have a hard time seeing the Grizz letting go of Gasol. Now if there were a strike for a year and Gasol was unrestricted though, that’s different.
by wallywagon11 on Jun 26, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I know Nene has stated that he wants to end his career in Denver,
which gives me reason to believe that he’s the more untouchable of the two.
wouldn't be shocked if the Kings base Sammy's value somewhat on the Haywood contract
and possibly have him as a backup plan in case Sammy isn’t interested in staying here.
by wallywagon11 on Jun 26, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
The Aaron Brooks rumor definitely doesn't make sense
But neither did the John Salmons trade
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or the rumors about possibly signing Burks
by wallywagon11 on Jun 26, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Other things that don't add up
Trading down in the draft to add John Salmons, trading Kevin Martin for Carl Landry, signing Francsico Garcia to the midlevel a season before he hit restricted free agency, trading Salmons and Brad Miller for Andres Nocioni, dumping Mike Bibby for spare change a season too late, hiring Eric Musselman, hiring Reggie Theus, hiring Paul Westphal, offering Bonzi Wells a $36 million deal.
Don’t bet on logic.
by nbrans on Jun 26, 2011 1:21 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
It's funny how everyone always brings up the Wells offer
without finishing the story. When Wells balked, Petrie stole Salmons away from Toronto with a midnight offer of a 5 yr. / $23m deal that bettered the Raps offer by a couple of dollars. Salmons went on to be at least fair value during his first stint here, and his value enabled the Kings to get out from under Miller’s contract in the Nocioni deal (which by the way I see as a fair to non trade, not a bad trade).
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Point being,
Petrie didn’t wait for Wells to string things out – he pulled the offer and moved on to Salmons. In the end, he made the better move.
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I'm sorry, he got lucky
Bonzi Wells saved Petrie from himself. Yes, kudos for Petrie for following it with a gamble that paid off, but that was nearly a disaster.
by nbrans on Jun 26, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
And it was nearly a disaster for Chicago when they briefly contemplated drafting Sam Perkins before selecting Michael Jordan. But they didn’t, and it wasn’t.
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No
that would be like the Bulls trying to draft Perkins, but, after he refuses to sign, they pick Jordan. As far as we know, that offer was made, and we are damn lucky he didn’t immediately take it.
I’ll be the first to say I’d rather have Petrie than just about any other GM out there, but can’t say he’s without his faults
by LPKingsFan on Jun 26, 2011 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I will agree 100% that Petrie has faults
And I think that I have been pretty clear around here as it pertains to my opinion of the Salmons/Udrih trade, so I certainly don’t view GP as a patron saint. It just cracks me up whenever someone has to go to the lengths to count unsigned deals against him, especially when the end result was rather positive.
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All speculations without knowing the details
One of which is how Bonzi would have performed here. He was a beast with our team.
His agent screwed up. He lost out on a ton of money. And he seemed to sulk and fall apart with the Rockets.
If he got his deal and stayed in Sac, it’s entirely possible things would have gone differently.
Can we please avoid analogies comparing Bonzi Wells and John Salmons to Sam Perkins and Michael Jordan?
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I don't know, Bonzi was pretty good in his brief stint here
The team had so little rebounding when he was here, and to have a tough guard who could get boards was great. I think it’s unfair to say for sure if he would have panned out here if he’d re-signed. His problems have always been on the mental and attitude side. He was a pretty good soldier when here, maybe that would have continued. $36 mil was a lot, but I think there was a chance it worked out.
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I agree.
Coming off a 24pts 12rbs playoff run with the Spurs, I think he’d do pretty well the next year if things hadn’t gone so crazy.
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by caseycheesecake on Jun 27, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously?
We’ll see on the Salmons trade. Wish we got more value for trading down.
KMart for Landry – Argue all day if it was a good trade or not. But it hardly defies logic. We got a highly efficient PF who gave us half a good season, before Cousins/Sammy came to town. Then we flipped him for a talented young SG, who will make ~1/2 of KMart’s salary. Landry also played well for NO after he left. Debate good or bad, but it hardly defied logic.
Garcia’s contract – defied logic
Salmons-Miller for Noc – Very clear we were blowing things up. Team was going nowhere and Salmons and Miller were going through the motions. It wasn’t what the team needed. Maybe we could have held onto them until the summer and tried to eek out a bit more value, but we needed to play the young guys. Again, debate if you liked it, but certainly didn’t defy logic.
Bibby a season too late – Considering he was coming off an injury, I think they gambled he could play better and increase his value. He got hurt again. Didn’t work. Failed gamble? Sure. Defied logic? Not at all.
Muss, Theus, Westphal – Muss had pedigree. Didn’t work. Hindsight is 20-20, but most people were actually excited about the hire. Theus defied logic. Westphal was the cheapest option. Clear penny-pinching by the Maloofs, but didn’t defy logic.
Bonzi – Obviously being discussed below.
Petrie is far from perfect and not immune from criticism, but this is the opposite of rose-colored glasses.
Seriously!
KMart for Landry – one of the most affordable and efficient players in the league for a glorified 6th Man. I’ll argue that one to the death.
Garcia’s contract – we agree
Salmons/Miller for Noc – I agree didn’t defy all logic, and partly saved by turning Noc into Dalembert.
Coaches – Fair enough.
You’re ruining my snark party.
Weren't you quick to slam the Thornton trade...
Hows that looking so far?
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by bench_blob on Jun 26, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is not "calling out other members" Sunday, blob
Rein it in.
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I didn't think what blob said was all that bad...
he’s just asking the other person to reexamine their viewpoint on the Thornton trade.
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by PhutureKings on Jun 26, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I didn't slam the trade, I just said I liked Marcus Thornton better when his name was Cuttino Mobley
I still think they’re extremely similar players. And I still like Marcus Thornton off the bench and I still don’t see the value in trading Kevin Martin for a 6th man parlayed into another 6th man.
Still.
Re-examine all trades and acquisitions, including coaches with the now exposed view of the Maloofs' financial portfolio ("we don't have financial problems")
As is said in most crimes – follow the money. And no, not a crime but a cryin’ shame that the Maloofs misrepresented their financial abilities to field a competitive team as well as their desire to stay in Sacramento.
Given that context, the Martin trade, the MIller/Salmon trade, the Bibby trade, the Magnificient 7 that trotted through Sacramentro Feb 2008 (great trivia question – can you name them?) these were trades based on the cheap and that alone. Martin was a mess from the agent standpoint but he was essentially a salary relief trade, in my opinion, retrospectively.
Free Agent signings – Cisco – tough call, Beno was mandatory at the time and eventually turned out on the positive side.
Antoine Wright, Desmond Mason, Luther Head, Mikki Moore – I would go with the “available warm bodies” option.
by betweentheeyes on Jun 26, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree with this too
But since the Kings are most definitely still in follow the money mode, all the more reason to take proposed basketball decisions with a grain of salt.
it will be a lot harder to hide their penurious ways
under the watchful eye of the Arena issue and the NBA contingent here to push things through. The CBA may distract this for a bit but not long enough to overcome the well earned skepticism the Maloofs have earned after (at least) three less than acceptable seasons. They have run out of “rebuilding credit”. I put the win total floor at 34 (ten more than last season).
by betweentheeyes on Jun 27, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously
KM for L – Affordable? He’s making 12+ the next couple of seasons. He’s an efficient scorer, but an inefficient passer, rebounder and defender. And here he appeared to want to be “the man” and there seemed to be friction between Evans and him. Again, I’m not trying to debate whether the deal was good or not. That’s a much longer post. Just saying it doesn’t defy logic. We’ve refilled his role at ~1/2 the cost.
SM and Bibby – Very true. I think it’s the nature of a rebuild. Portland started theirs dumping Zach Randolph for nothing. OKC let Rashard walk out the door for a conditional second round pick. Washington, starting their rebuild one year after us, dumped Jamison, Butler and Haywood for expirings.
Ha. There’s plenty to still be snarky about. Just re-read another one of those Salmons posts ;)
Theus
God do I hate that Theus hire, but remember the Kings had Stan Van Gundy signed, sealed, delivered and a Donovan waffle and Kinkos trip away from being head coach. I always thought Theus was a panic, feel good move because of the Van Gundy kick in the balls. Doesn’t justify Theus. Nothing justifies Theus. Nothing will ever justify Theus. But at the time there was something comforting about a coaching wanting to be here vs. a coach that was on the first flight out to Orlando.
And...
if nothing else Westphal saved us from Rambis. Which by all appearances would have ended up being Theus, the encore. Replete with Theus on the coaching staff.
Westphal saved us from Rambis?
Yeah, let’s go with that. It’s certainly more palatable than thinking that Rambis saved us from Rambis.
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True, he's a good presenter and a mediorce head coach
but let’s keep context in mind too. He’s not some “used car salesman” who talked his way into a job he wasn’t qualified for.
He came from a NBA pedigree. His Dad was a NBA head coach and Muss grew up around the game. He played 4 years of college ball. He coached very successfully in the CBA and then was an assistant coach in the NBA. He had an up and down stint with the Warriors – guiding them to more wins than they’d had in awhile, but also alienating players. He spent a couple more years as an assistant with the Griz when they were doing well.
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Seriously doubt the Suns are going to match any kind of offer much over the QO ($2.9m).
You want him, take him.
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the Suns are looking for a SG upgrade
Perhaps Petrie SnT for Brooks using the contract of Garcia, would you bite then?
No
Because Garcia makes more sense on this roster than Brooks does, as he can play the 2 or the 3, plays some defense, can hit his threes, and is respected by his teammates.
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not going to lie
not a big fan of either Brooks or Garcia
by wallywagon11 on Jun 26, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not wild on either
But I’d rather have Garcia on this team than Brooks.
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I see the Suns only being interested in Thornton.
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Brooks? No. But what about Reggie Evans?
Knows his role. Rebounds. Hard nosed. Doesn’t need shots in order to be an impactful player. Affordable. It wouldn’t be a sexy move, but he could help fill the gap left by Sam’s presumed departure.
by KingsZagsAthleticsRaiders on Jun 26, 2011 1:47 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Well said
Brooks is a chucker. The Rockes were so much better with Lowry starting.
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by ZenBaller on Jun 26, 2011 2:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I think I will pass on this guy.
PPG
10.7
RPG
1.30
APG
3.9
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Instead of looking at the career averge, take a look at his 3% season by season
07-08: 33%
08-09: 36.6%
09-10: 39.8%
10:11: 28.4%
10-11 (Phoenix): 32.8%
The definition of instability. He never had more than 43% in field goals. He’s a very bad shot selector and a just above average 3p shooter, he doesn’t pass well and has a high usage as Akis said.
He would make a nice offensive weapon off the bench to give some spark when needed, but having this guy playing a lot of minutes for you is a disaster. I don’t think Jimmer will be worse than him, even in his rookie year.
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To be fair
Ginobili’s cheap shot messed up Brook’s ankle pretty bad and he never really seemed to get his legs back. Then he lost his starting job to Lowry w/the injury and didn’t get it back.
He was also po’d at Houston for not making an extension offer,so his head wasn’t right the whole yr.
Brooks is an amazing offensive talent,but his defense is astonishingly bad. Mainly because he does NONE of the things quick little guards can do-he doesn’t pressure the ball handler,he doesn’t poach passing lanes,he doesn’t use his speed to anticipate and draw charges,he lays off shooters and in general plays D as if he was 6" taller and could play his man straight up.
As to his passing,I’m still undecided if he has horrible court vision or just is afraid to throw a pass in the air which might lead to a turnover. He makes terrific bounce passes,in fact he puts on a clinic on how to make a bounce pass. Problem is no lobs,no chest passes,everything comes off the floor,esp causing problems for big men as they have to break their normal plane of vision and look down at floor to follow the pass,then reorient on basket,giving defenders that split-second of extra time to recover,contest,nudge.
As a scoring sparkplug off bench he’d be great,as a mini-SG teamed w/a playmaking SG/SF he’d be fine,but he’s not a guy you want running your offense.
Just a random piece of speculation,but are the Kings internally worried Thorton might be too pricey to keep? If say Chicago threw $5-6mil at him,would they match?
That might be the basis for interest in Brooks.
Roster balance and salary
If Thorton and Brooks are asking same amount,w/Brooks you get roster balance,where w/Thorton you still have to pay for a PG,as well as being forced to trade either Greene or Casspi.
W/Brooks you’re looking at something like
Jimmer,Evans,Salmons and Brooks,Garcia,Casspi/Greene
while w/Thorton it’s something like
Jimmer,Evans,Salmons
FA PG/Jeter,Thorton,Garcia and Casspi/Greene as fifth/sixth wings.
Even trading one is not going to leave the other too happy as the 5 rotation player at the wing.
Just a thought.
You think Brooks is a traditional PG. Your logic is invalid.
Thornton is the better scorer and defender, he can feed the post. Brooks is a worse rebounder too.
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by sac_faithful on Jun 26, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
All due respect
I’m not the one who’s allegedly interested in making Brooks an offer.
I was one who argued long and hard for Lowry to start over Brooks in Houston.
Gotcha
Thought you were stumping for him. Brooks has proven that his post season run a few years back was an anomaly in my eyes. He is going to be a backup from here on out in his career and we already have a couple backups who do what he does and our starters are already better.
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by sac_faithful on Jun 27, 2011 6:00 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I sure hope there is no truth to the Aaron Brooks rumor.
Although, with the exit of Beno, I do feel there is a hole at the PG position. With Tyreke, Jimmer, Thorton, and Salmons all demanding their touches, someone needs to get them the ball.
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by PhutureKings on Jun 26, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Adding...
If any one of these guys comes walking through the door…
Chris Paul
Russell Westbrook
Derrick Rose
Deron Williams
Tony Parker w/o Richard Jefferson
Stephen Curry
John Wall
then it is all good.
The key to any game is to use your strengths and hide your weaknesses.
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Wait, why? I think signing a veteran backup is smart.
Not a high minutes guy, but someone with experience who can mentor the team and step in and run the offense for stretches when our young uns start playing out of control. Kind of what Shaw and Harper did later in their careers for the Lakers.
Hey Slam,
Have you watched many/any BYU games?
I’ve only watched 1 so far, but I was pretty impressed with Jimmers pg play.
To be honest, I have not.
I have watched some highlights of Jimmer’s incredible shooting. The only thing I know about his pg play is that JR, PW, and Petrie think he will be good in that position.
The key to any game is to use your strengths and hide your weaknesses.
-Paul Westphal
I'd encourage you to watch some of BYU's games
It really gave me a better feel for the guy we’re getting. From the game I saw, he seemed to have a really nice hesitation drive. He gets doubled a lot (and didnt turn it over often). He’s got great handle on the ball, and seemed to find the open man quite often as soon as a double team was committed to him, usually for an easy 2 points.
This sort of stuff excites me because teams will have to keep relatively close to him, because of his 3 point range, which allows him to fake, and drive to the hoop, which leads to other defenders having to help, with him dishing off for easy buckets.
Why am I saying all this? I think Jimmer may be the best point guard we’ll have on the team.
I hope you are right.
From the excitement you and others have for him, I can’t wait to see what he’s got. I know he can shoot lights out. Off court, he presents himself very well – bright, articulate, and confident.
I tried to will myself into watching college basketball this year, so I could have some pulse on the upcoming draft picks. It just isn’t the same as the NBA. I guess it is an acquired taste.
This is a lot to expect from this rookie – take up the reins of the starting point guard position, shoot lights out, set up plays, and distribute the ball. From what you describe – he has a high BB IQ and an incredible feel for the game. I can’t wait to see him play for our team. If he can do all this and fill Beno’s shoes, I’ll settle down on my freakout over Beno’s departure.
The key to any game is to use your strengths and hide your weaknesses.
-Paul Westphal
I tried to watch some college too
but I didn’t get around to it. So now I am just downloading some of the games for the guys we got in the draft.
You’re right, it is alot to expect from a rookie, and Im not really expecting it from him, however I do feel more comfortable after seeing him play. It’s my hope that he works out for us.
And to put this rumor in perspective following draft
According to Sam Amick and Chad Ford and Draft Express, the Kings had their sights set on the likes of:
Klay Thompson
Kawhi Leonard
Brandon Knight
And as it turns out, there was zero basis to these reports. Smokescreen, misdirection, call it whatever you like, their sources were 100% inaccurate. So even credible sources, at times, were really misleading. Based on the post draft interviews, sounds like the Kings narrowed their selection to:
Jimmer
Kemba Walker
Alec Burks
The bullshit/truth ratio was very high leading up to draft, and that’s when common sense serves a fan well. Kawhi Leonard was fools gold to anyone who thought he was the pick. No 3 point range, disappointing combine testing, underwhelming scoring at SDSU. Passive personality. So what if he has big hands!!! In retrospect especially, it seems so obvious. But easy too to forecast he would be bypassed, and those who thought he was the pick were on mental vacation.
Regarding free agents, Kings are going to make hard push at Andres Kirelenko. Mark my words. If he can stay healthy, big if, he’s perfect complement along frontline, to protect Jimmer defensively, play off Cuz at the ‘4’ spot, to cover the paint if and when we lose Sammy D. Even if Sammy is resigned, AK-47 makes perfect sense to me as stretch ‘4’ and defensive presence.
I had strong feeling the Kings would draft Jimmer leading up to draft and feel the same way about AK-47. The Kings are going to make serious push to sign him. And they should. He can’t shoot, but he’s a damn good player.
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by bench_blob on Jun 26, 2011 2:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The tale of the tape is not 3 days after the draft, it's 3 years...or more
Time will tell as it pertains to who will and who will not be the viable NBA players from this draft. My bet is that there will be more good players outside the top 10 picks than within the top 10.
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by section214 on Jun 26, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, no and, lessee here, please god no.
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by defender96 on Jun 26, 2011 2:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I think the Brooks roomers are just that and are intended to
persuade Thorton to sign before its too late.
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Good analysis, Aykis.
I think the highest praise i can give you is that after reading both this article and the one with salmons’ graphs i expected to see TZ’s name as the author but both were by you. Good work man, ive been enjoying it.
huh? wha?
...
Well shouldnt we just have kept the seventh pick and chose either jimmer or knight and then go after prince in free agency or was it just my salmons hate talking
Front court help
If GP’s going to make a big “splash” it has to be either Gasol or Nene,personally I’d take Nene but would still be very happy with Gasol.Dalembert can go and is not worth a max deal which at this point in his career he’s going to demand.
by Bware94 on Jun 26, 2011 8:23 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
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i would take nene becaue i dont see gasol guarding the four
It'll be interesting to see if DMC becomes more agile if he comes in at 270 like he has said
I think he can do it, in which case the slower Gasol would play the 5. But that is all conjecture until we see what DMC can do at that weight.
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by sac_faithful on Jun 27, 2011 6:09 AM PDT up reply actions
What about DMC at the 5 and David West at 4?
Check out my comedy website, where you can access video clips of my stand-up @ here
"Put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair, and I can GUARANTEE Tyreke would demolish either. You might want to rethink what you just said." - MarcusC.
"I never read those trade threads. They seem to be mainly populated with the sports equivalent of people who think the Rapture is imminent." - andy sims.
by PhutureKings on Jun 27, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
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i like david west. that frontcourt wouldnt be the best defensive frontcourt but it could defintiely open things up on the offensive end. im afraid though that west would be a taller landry
who is going to give him that max deal?
The answer is nobody. We can offer the most for him, but he isn’t getting the max. He isn’t a max player. He’ll get 10 mil/yr which is a bargain for his skill level at his position.
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by sac_faithful on Jun 27, 2011 6:04 AM PDT up reply actions
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