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Is signing David West feasible and worth it?

 

David West is an intriguing option for the Kings as free agency, a lockout or any number of things approach.  West has been the model of consistency over his 8 year career with the New Orleans Hornets.  West averages 16.4 ppg and 7.3 rpg while shooting a very respectable 83.9% from the charity stripe for his career.  David will turn 31 this August which is still a very good age for an NBA player much like John Salmons and he still has at least 4 to 5 good years in the league assuming he stays healthy for that period. 

 

Then the question comes up, Is David West worth the risk? Considering he tore his ACL at the end of last season it is very much up in the air as to how he will recover from that devastating injury.  Luckily he isn't a guard and doesn't rely on his quickness as much as a guard would but one still has to wonder if his production will decline as a result or have lingering effects. Tim Duncan has been slowed by knee injuries as Shaq was at the end of his career.  Those two suffered a major decline especially Shaq at the end of his career because of the lingering knee trouble.  Duncan really didn't decline as much until this year which might have been due to the fact that he is now 35 and has probably lost a step.  Either way knee injuries are nothing to play around with and West will have to be examined thoroughly before any team signs him.

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Now we move to the how David West would fit in on the Kings and how feasible it is for them to sign him.  Last year's starting 4 and 5 combo was DeMarcus Cousins and Samuel Dalembert.  Obviously it remains to be seen whether the team will re-sign Dalembert or Marcus Thornton for that matter and the impending lockout only further complicates matters.  Judging by the production of Dalembert and Thornton last year, it would come as no surprise to anyone if both players returned to Sactown next season, whenever that may be.  Let's look at Samuel Dalembert's stats from last season.  He averaged 8.1 ppg and 8.2 rpg and shot a respectable 73% from the line.  However, Dalembert was widely inconsistent when it came to scoring points and that aspect really hurt the Kings because he wasn't really someone anybody wanted shooting 15-footers yet he did time and again.  When he was hot it was certainly a nice part of the offense but the bad part was when he wouldn't hit his jumpers on some nights and it really stunted the team offensively.  He did make up for it with his defense and rebounding but it would be nice to be able to mark in 15 and 10 every night like you can with West every night while moving D-Cuz back to his natural Center spot. This equation also involves Jason Thompson.  If the team re-signs Dalembert and happens to sign West, where does that leave Thompson?  To JT's credit, he did adjust well to coming off the bench last year and was a nice player to have fill in for either Dalembert or Cousins when they needed a break.  Obviously signing West would congest the frontcourt but I don't think it would be an impossible situation to work out.  A starting five of Evans, Thornton, Salmons, West and Cousins would be pretty formidable both defensively and offensively with no starter measuring under 6' 4" and nobody averaging less than Thornton's skewed 12.8 ppg.  Obviously everyone would have to adjust to Paul Westphal's offense and attempted shots would be more or less for the 5 guys than they were last year.

 

David West is a very affordable player (he opted out of the final year of his contract with NOH that was due to pay him $7.5 million).  The Kings have the most salary cap space of any team in the league and the Maloofs, Geoff Petrie and Paul Westphal have repeatedly stated that the team isn't done adding to this team and will do that either through free agency or by way of trades.  Either way the financial flexibility is there for the taking and the Kings desperately need to keep making additions to the team to bring it back to respectability and beyond.  After all this team might not even be here if it wasn't for Kevin Johnson's heroic efforts.  It is now the Kings' duty to show why they were worth keeping and give the loyal fans the proud and successful franchise that they deserve.  Much like the relocation, these matters are out of our hands but we can remain hopeful that David will indeed head West.

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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David West will be the Carlos Boozer of the 2011 free agent class.

Next to the downside of his career, benefited from playing next to a great distributor, and has injury history.

In other words… No thanks.

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by Schneezel on Jun 27, 2011 11:28 PM PDT reply actions  

though i dont necessarily disagree with you that

West is on the downside of his career, i will take issue with the “benefited from playing next to a great distributor” comment. Even when Paul was out the season before with injury, West put up near identical numbers. He’s efficient and would be a welcomed addition to our young squad.

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by Norcalfan10 on Jun 28, 2011 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like how he has performed in years past.

However, I wouldn’t want to acquire him for 4-5 years at 10 million/year and have that buyer’s remorse the Bulls have now. Josh Smith would be a much better target, as he is available and we have the assets the Hawks desire; cap relief and young talent.

"Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?"

by Schneezel on Jun 28, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

wont dispute that

was only referencing the “benefiting from playing next to a great distributor” comment. Between the two, I would also prefer JSmooth. And I think the default argument that Smooth and Cousins together would be bad news is overblown. He is exactly what we would need out of the 4.

Cain is Able ...

by Norcalfan10 on Jun 28, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's be clear.

Cuz never really played the 4 spot outside of the high post. Daly would usually take the offensive and defensive responsibilities of the PF, which works because he is good enough to defend the spot. That’s my biggest issue with a Gasol signing, who guards the 4? And no thanks on David West.

by VenomySnicket on Jun 28, 2011 12:05 AM PDT reply actions  

I like West a lot.

The problem is that he’s 30 and I don’t think he’ll accept anything less than 9-10 mil year, which is a lot for his age, plus the PF spot is not exactly our basic need. He could make a nice inside-out combination with Sammy though. He has a very good face up and mid range game.

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by ZenBaller on Jun 28, 2011 5:21 AM PDT reply actions  

31 is a "very good age"

for an already-unathletic big man coming off major knee surgery?

hmmm. no.

by lchristmas on Jun 28, 2011 7:52 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Um....no

West is a product of CP3, CP3 turned Tyson Chandler into a scoring machine……PLUS he’s a short PF who doesn’t rebound…..NEXT! Can i get Marc please?

by shadowchicken on Jun 28, 2011 8:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Hello Landry

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by Widowwolf on Jun 28, 2011 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

West isn't a "product of CP3"

He’s a good player who, like any good player, is even better with Chris Paul playing on his team.

Not saying I want the guy on our roster at this point in time, but Chris Paul has certainly benefited from having David West on his team as well.

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by otis29 on Jun 28, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Exactly

Founder of team Omté Caspeen

by Widowwolf on Jun 28, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!

by caseycheesecake on Jun 28, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

West would be a good pick up

But he has stated several times that he is looking to go to a winning team. I don’t even think overpaying him gets is done.

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And it's fine with me 'cause I've let it slide

by SavageBeast on Jun 28, 2011 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

NOH have 5 players under contract for $42M,

It’s going to be interesting to see if they try to get in the bidding for West, especially since the NBA owns the team.

As for whether or not he’d be a good choice for the Kings, well I guess that would depend on whether or not we get Sammy back. I don’t think there is enough cap space to sign West, Sammy and Thornton. So the only way we could get West would be in a sign and trade where they take back someone like Cisco and picks.

 DeMarcus is excellent at taking charges and blocking shots in man to man defense, but he’s not a leaper or weakside shotblocker like Dalembert. So, if we pick up West instead of Sam, the backcourt is going to have to do a better job in stopping penetration.

It’s already been said but with our improved shooting at the guard and wing positions and the scoring capability of DeMarcus, I’m not sure we need West’s scoring. And, I wouldn’t gamble a lot of money on his knees. Since he opted out of a $7.5M contract, and it’s pretty certain that the salaries are going down under the upcomming CBA, I’m guessing he’s expecting close to max money. ($12-15M) I think a good shotblocker/rebounder like Josh Smith who has 2yrs at $12.5M per would be a better choice.

I like West, but I’d look for someone better defensively to work with Cousins.

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by HighTops on Jun 28, 2011 3:08 PM PDT reply actions  

We have abotu 12 million a year to give him with resigning thornton and Sammy at 14 million between the two

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by Widowwolf on Jun 28, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's close to GP's projections assuming that the Salary Cap stays the same which it won't

The owners say that they are losing $300M per year. That’s $10M per team, so I’d expect the salary cap to drop by at least $5-8M. But, I think your price for Sam and Marcus are reasonable, but Dalembert might find someone to offer him more than $8M.

Really too many unknowns to have a really accurate projection.

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by HighTops on Jun 28, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was assuming 62 million being thrown around so far. He might be able to find more then that , but hopefully he likes Sacramento and sees the development and wants to stay

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by Widowwolf on Jun 28, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure about the details of the $62M flex cap but the union isn't in favor

I do know that the league wants to drop the players current share of revenue from 57% to 50% and the players have countered with 54%. And the cap is equal to the players share divided by 30. So, if their share goes down the cap should go down.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
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by HighTops on Jun 29, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

No and No

Can’t panic and just throw all that cash at the first good power forward that comes along on the market. I’d rather have a role player who is willing to do the dirty work on defense and the glass and who can do it well.

by Kevin Conroy on Jun 28, 2011 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Sounds familiar...

…Where have I seen such a player before?

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by napg on Jun 28, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last summer it was Carlos Boozer

The Blazers made that mistake a long time ago on an immature Zach Randolph. The Magic made that mistake with Rashard Lewis, breaking the bank to play him out of position for a few years. Billy King made the mistake with Kenny Thomas, who then became our albatross and I’d even say that Shareef Abdur-Rahim was the MLE version of signing a PF based solely on good per-game scoring and rebounding. Marc Gasol is a good player but there is a chance that Memphis or someone else overpays for him expecting another 5ppg and 3rpg to appear down the line.

by Kevin Conroy on Jun 28, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kris Humphries

"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!

by caseycheesecake on Jun 29, 2011 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd take him as my third big

he has really matured

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by lietothegirls on Jun 29, 2011 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's hope he doesn't come West.

The Kings would be wise to stay clear… Not a good fit next to Cousins… I would go after a guy like Humphries who is much younger and a better rebounder.

Plus… I doubt the Kings use all their space whatever the cap is. I think you will see their payroll in the 45-50 range next season.

by KingsFanNoMatterWhat on Jun 28, 2011 9:55 PM PDT reply actions  

David West is a Rich Man's Carl Landry

http://www.atthehive.com/2011/6/29/2249530/david-west-and-carl-landry?ref=yahoo

Interesting read regarding West vs Landry. Not sure I agree, but the assessment of West would have me saying “No Thanks” like many have already done…

by LDM on Jun 29, 2011 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't see that we need another scorer

someone who CAN score but, I worry that West was not a great defender before the knee injury (though I don’t see NewOrl enough to be sure on that) and was never really a tough guy defender either.

Without a fantastic medical exam – no, and even then not for a lot of years.

"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
- Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower

by lietothegirls on Jun 29, 2011 1:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh, pretty much what HT said above ^

I’d rather spend 8-9 mil a year on Sammy and 4-5 mil a year on Thornton.

Now, if Josh Smith was really available?

"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
- Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower

by lietothegirls on Jun 29, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Hawks have $66M committed to 7 contracts

they have Jason Collins and Zaza Pachulia at center, and Josh Smith and Marvin Williams at SF. JT and Omri for Smith would save them $8M. Whether they would like to same some money or would be interested in a Young Center & SF, I don’t know. But, it could be done.

I also like Tyrus Thomas from Cha and Greg Monroe. From Toronto I’d consider Amir Johnson and Ed Davis. For a vet to replace Sammy, I like Anderson Varejao. Whether any of them would be available at a reasonable cost is anyones guess. But, those are the guys that I would go after.

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by HighTops on Jun 29, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see Monroe or Davis as being available.

But I’d love to get Monroe. He’s a stud.

"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!

by caseycheesecake on Jul 1, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Excellent young defensive players and I'd add Amir Johnson to that list

the Redacted might be looking to reduce salary and Lamar Odom might be available. I think after the CBA is finalized we’ll have a better view of who might be available for trade, and can stop just concentrating on the limited number of FA’s that are availablel.

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by HighTops on Jul 3, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

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