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The Newest Sacramento King Is...

Deceptive Athleticism.  Steady competitor. Brilliant Shooter.  Unlimited Range.  Quiet Confidence.  And the next Sacramento King! 

I have been hunkering down in my B-Lab (Blob Laboratory) lately, that is, in front of my iMac, to study, quantify, qualify and deconstruct the top prospects through combination of You Tube clips, articles, respected commentary and relevant data to separate the wheat from the chaff, the contenders from the pretenders, and the Hakeem's from the Hasheem's. 

My analysis reveals the Kings will select...wait, wait...drama building, wait...tension mounting, wait...boredom setting in, wait...and wait no more! 

Jimmer Fredette with the # 7 pick of the NBA draft!!!  These results have a margin of error of 0.0%.  

Send him to the draft podium, design the 2011-2012 promotional billboards, book the January 2013 appearance at the Arco 2 Groundbreaking Ceremony, replete with logoed hardhat and purple-tinted shovel, and let Jimmermania commence!

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The output of my scientific 2011 NBA draft investigation reveals Jimmer to be the most worthy candidate based on optimal fit, immediate and long-term impact, as opposed to position, reputation, or the elusive quality known as 'upside'.  In sum, Jimmer is the best NBA prospect available at #7 while satisfying a foremost need. 

B-Lab Findings

Despite the late season brilliance of MT23, the Kings are being built around the dynamic duo of Tyreke Evans and DeMarcus Cousins.  Reke and Cuz are the most talented players on the roster, and the cornerstones of The Rebuild.  Any core addition must complement their predominant traits.  If there is a common trait shared by the two players, it is their preference to bully their way into the paint, to overpower smaller defenders, to carve a scoring path with muscle and skill.

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Opposing defenders able to cheat off their man and into help position narrows creases to exploit, and reduces room to operate.  To maximize the potential of our two best talents, we are wise to give them ample space to do damage.  Enter Jimmer, as weak side sharp shooter, spot up marksman, and trustworthy scoring option with minimal airspace required.  Jimmer will keep defenses honest and force opponents to swallow their poison. 

Drink up, mortal victim!

The Kings witnessed the positive impact Marcus Thornton brought to the team with his 3-point range (36%) and dynamic scoring repertoire (21.3 PPG in 27 games).  It is not an exaggeration to say the trade deadline deal made the Kings exponentially more watchable, exciting and competitive.  It has been suggested by many, myself included, that Jimmer duplicates the size and skillset of MT23, albeit a lesser and unproven version, and that the pick would be better utilized to fill another need or position (SF, PF).

Contrary to this line of thought, you can never have too many shooters and cold-blooded scorers.  Witness the NBA finalists Dallas Mavericks as example of team structured around the low/mid post dominance of Dirk as center hub to numerous spokes ready and able to launch from the three-point arc:  The Jason's, Terry and Kidd, our boy Peja, JJ Barea, and DaShawn Stevenson.

Reliable shooters become more indispensable when one of your best players drives relentlessly into the key, in the case of Reke, and needs a dependable safety valve when the bank is not open for business.  Further, when your best post player, DeMarcus Cousins, showed in his rookie season an ability to see over the top of the defense, and to find open wing or corner shooters, it helps when the man on the receiving end knows what to do. Swish!

Jimmertime!

Geoff Petrie's affection for superior shooting can be traced over the years to his acquisition of players who excelled at this one skill:  Ricky Barry, Danny Ainge, Mitch Richmond, Mike BibbyJason WilliamsPeja StojakovicKevin MartinEddie House, Tony Delk, Jon BarryOmri Casspi, to name a few. 

Adding Jimmer Fredette to this list seems overwhelmingly fitting under present circumstances, although at first I rejected the notion.  In fact, the idea the Kings would draft a 6'2" white kid from BYU was beyond the realm of possibility in my mind, but not because he is a 6'2" white kid from BYU.   I made no qualms over my objection to Jimmer as serious candidate.

A sampling of impressions leading to today:

The best player I have seen in tourney so far is Jimmer Freddette, and he looks too slow and nonathletic to guard at NBA level, or to get to the hoop and finish...

Jerry Reynolds implied the other telecast he likes Jimmer. He said he is bigger and stronger than Mike Bibby when he came in to league. It will be interesting to see where Jimmer goes in the draft. When he goes in for the individual workouts if he proves he is a decent enough athlete, he will go high. If his athleticism (lateral quickness, speed) is sketchy, teams will get nervous....

The player I don’t want is Jimmer Fredette. Dude is too slow to defend, get out on break, and beat anyone off dribble....

I am not saying Jimmer is not going to be a good pro or defy critics with his athletic ability. I just think a projected PG without decent speed, or a projected 6’2" SG with just average speed, has less margin for error. If the Kings even consider taking him at #5, he needs to prove at least average athleticism....

Of course teams like Jimmer. What’s not to like based on his college career? He was fantastic. But there's a big gap between we like him to he is our draft pick....

Yo, yo, waddup wit dat yo-yo head? What's up with the reversal of opinion?  Slight change of tune, eh hombre? What's with the two-sided mouth blabbing, blob!?!  Chill. Settle down, Pookey, err, random reader, NBA aficionado, and gentlemanly scholar. Relax, breathe, and recognize that looks can be deceiving and newly released data, once churned and digested, can be eye opening, and assuage concerns to decisive degree.  

Allow me to explain the evolution of my thought process, my surprising B-Lab findings, and the basis of my boarding pass upon the Jimmer Express. 

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As picture illustrates, Jimmer has a wide and somewhat stocky frame. However, his build belies his athleticism.  My initial impressions over his physique led me to imagine he would be a half to full step slow on NBA fast breaks, attempted back door cuts, or potential escape dribbles.  The NBA is a game of inches. Lack of speed and quickness is the difference between lay-up and a swatted shot, between three feet of shooting space and three inches, and between success and failure.

My tempered expectations held. Then, the NBA draft combine occurred.  The results are in.  Key categoric comparisons between Jimmer, his fellow attendees, his future King teammates, and established veterans listed below:

3/4 Court Sprint:

(1) Derrick Rose 3.05

(2) Rusell Westbrook 3.08

(3) John Wall: 3.14

(4) Kemba Walker 3.16

(5) Tyreke Evans 3.17

(6) Aaron Brooks 3.20

(7) Jimmer Fredette 3.21

(8) Jrue Holiday 3.21

(9) Chris Paul 3.22

(10) Marcus Thornton 3.28

(11) Omri Casspi 3.28

(12) Stephen Curry 3.28

(13) JJ Redick 3.29

 

Agility Drill:

(1) Jimmer Fredette! 10.42

(2) Dwyane Wade 10.56

(3) Jrue Holiday 10.64

(4) Marcus Thornton 10.73

(5) Brandon Knight 10.74

(6) John Wall 10.84

(7) Kemba Walker 10.87

(8) JJ Redick 10.94

(9) Russell Westbrook 10.98

(10) Stephen Curry 11.07

(11) Chris Paul 11.09

(12) Derrick Rose 11.69

(13) Tyreke Evans 11.89

 

Clearly, Jimmer Fredette is no athletic slug. He's more Road Runner than Wild E. Coyote. Line him up against the fastest of Kings (Tyreke, MT23, Pooh and Omri) and Jimmer will not get dusted.  In fact he may just lead the pack, and do the dusting.  Even more impressive, ask him to slide laterally against the most athletic guards in the NBA, and sliding he shall do.  His reputation as a defensive slouch at BYU may have been well earned, but he projects as a capable NBA defender.

The results of these agility and speed drills must be tempered with just this fact.  These are drills, not basketball plays. But the correlation should not be discounted, nor the fact that the impressive results address the primary concerns regarding his ability to excel as a pro. I was unable to find any prominent NBA guards who completed the agility drill faster than Jimmer. Video evidence here:

Jimmer Agility and Sprint Drills (4:55 to 6:00):

More Jimmer Agility on Display (2:55 to 3:05):

 

While Jimmer does not possess the length or hops of his soon-to-be peers, he possesses NBA level athleticism. His 6'4.5" wingspan is equal to Beno's, and puts him below the average of 6'6" for an NBA PG.  His 10'9".5 max vertical is mildly concerning, and puts him in the bottom 20% percentile of NBA PGs.  It still puts him among accomplished vertically-challenged company: Chris Paul, Jameer Nelson and Ty Lawson. He is not going to win a dunk contest anytime soon, or ever. But blowing out a candle upon a cupcake sitting atop of the rim while windmill double pumping is not requirement to becoming a NBA star.  

Sorry Gerald Green.

So there you have it.  In unexpected turn, Jimmer displays the foot speed and agility needed to defend, to fill the wings on a break, to pull up early in transition, to curl off picks, and to crossover unsuspecting defenders. Recent reports from individual and group workouts confirm teams and GMs are pleasantly surprised as well (Knicks, Pacers).  Most importantly, Jimmer seems to possess the athleticism to keep pace with teammates, if not lead them, and to play at speed and pace necessary to get consistent quality looks at the hoop.

Jimmer frenzy, friends! 

Jimmer compares favorably with a young Mike Bibby.  As a former #2 pick of the Vancouver Grizzlies, Bibby's transition to the NBA was fairly seamless. He averaged 13 points as a rookie, as high as 21 PPG in '05-'06,  and never less than 13 points over the first 12 years of his career.  He shot 38% from 3 points, 43% overall, with better than 2.5:1 assist:TO ratio. To secure a player of comparable potential and productivity with the 7th pick of the draft represents tremendous value.

Mike Bibby @ Arizona

vs.

Jimmer Fredette @ BYU

 

Fredette and Bibby have the similar body type, and same deft shooting touch. Both use their size and strength to ward off defenders and create space.  Jimmer has more range on his shot.  The Bibster had better penetration skills. The low camera angle on the Jimmer clips also effectively reveals (1) deft dribble crossover that will translate into NBA (2) nice elevation on jump shot, (3) adequate and crafty, if not good, penetration skills,  (4) nice handles in traffic, and (5) opportune passing.  

Why not Kemba, Biyombo or [insert name here]?!

Official B-Lab protocol dictates sizing up a draft in simplest of terms, in terms of impact.  Looking forward or in retrospect, the best players are those with an ability to impact a game and their team with a unique combination of skills. By considering a player in terms of past, current and projected impact, focus shifts to what he can do, versus what he cannot do.  Too often analysis gets muddled with lists of pros and cons, positional focus, and illogical comparisons.  By evaluating a player based on the level of impact he makes on a game today, and determining if the impact will likely translate into the future, chances improve that the best player will be chosen.

Tyreke Evans impacts a game with an ability to get to the rim at will through size and saavy, and his impact was demonstrated through 25+ consecutive victories at Memphis, once responsibility and the ball was placed in his hands.  DeMarcus was a prep state champion and leading contributor of top ranked team at Kentucky with his ability to impact the paint area through aggression, size and fundamentals. Likewise, Jimmer Fredette impacts a game with the constant attention required through his extraordinary ability to make shots.  His immeasurable impact upon the success of BYU program cannot be understated.  The clincher to this equation of projected impact is the display of athleticism to go with the sweet stroke. 

Jimmer will soon become the Kings best shooter since the glory days of Peja-vu, and an exciting and substantive addition to an emerging Kings team.  He immediately becomes the third guard in a 3-man rotation, and penciled in for 20 to 30 minutes per game.  I like Beno and his unheralded efficiency and production, but the arrival of Jimmer makes departure of Beno imminent.

The Blob has spoken.  The June 23rd Sacramento Kings draft future has been foretold. Trust in the wisdom of the Blob. The B-Lab never Be-Lies.   Thank you me for reading this post.  You have just been Jimmer'd.

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* Blob Disclaimer * This 100% money back draft guarantee is null and void in the unlikely event Enes Kanter or Brandon Knight slips to the #7 spot.  Past returns do not guarantee future results.  Ice cream tastes good.

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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Rec'd for the research and entertainment value

But, as to defense – I heard the Kings plan to let him rest on the defensive end so he can focus on scoring. So you might want to rewrite that part.

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by otis29 on Jun 9, 2011 1:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I thought this was going to be just another crap Jimmer post

but I am impressed ..very well done.
I am renaming him to Fred Jimmettere, just because I hate his name.
That being said, I think Fred will be given strong consideration by GP. If he is the choice I will be good with it.
Rec’d.

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by ElRonToro on Jun 9, 2011 1:27 PM PDT reply actions  

You're my favorite writer blob,

even though I’m not certain if I like you as a person.

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by caseycheesecake on Jun 9, 2011 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh

and great article! Freakin hilarious and informative – exactly how everything in writing should be.

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by caseycheesecake on Jun 9, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

hella agree

i think this is who well get forsure!! cant wait

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by yaboyrafa on Jun 9, 2011 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Excuse me, but...
Deceptive Athleticism. Steady competitor. Brilliant Shooter. Unlimited Range. Quiet Confidence.

We already have one Jason Thompson post today.

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by section214 on Jun 9, 2011 2:08 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Lol nice.

Ebomb is pulling his hair out right now. Assuming he has any left after being a T-wolves fan.

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by caseycheesecake on Jun 9, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really well done and rec'd

And while I have not moved Fredette into my top 10, I’ll be fine with the pick if GP deems it to be.

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by section214 on Jun 9, 2011 2:14 PM PDT reply actions  

If there is a common trait shared by the two players, it is their preference to bully their way into the paint, to overpower smaller defenders, to carve a scoring path with muscle and skill.

Did DMC really show this preference?

by wallywagon11 on Jun 9, 2011 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes, DMC drove a lot from the high post

It also resulted in quite a few travelling calls and charging fouls. I would like to see less driving from the high post and more time in the low post

by R-Man on Jun 9, 2011 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think

driving to the hoop and bullying his way to the hoop are different. I actually did not think DMC was a low post beast last year, though it certainly seems like he could be.

by MichaelMack on Jun 10, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was surprised how poor he did converting around the basket in traffic

He just didn’t have the strength to power the ball into the basket over guys who weren’t nearly as big.

This is just another reason I’m interested to find out how hard he works over the offseason. He needs to not only work on his conditioning, but strength training as well.

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by otis29 on Jun 10, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was surprised to at how hard it was for him to score down low

but looking at his fantastic rebounding ability, I think his low post game should come around pretty quickly.

by MichaelMack on Jun 10, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

what does this team need hmm allowed 104 a game,surprisingly one of the best rebounding teams in the league ah fawk enough typing we need this nikka
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by NastyNas on Jun 9, 2011 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Excellent points

I think he is a great fit & I cant wait to buy a Jimmer Kings jersey.

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by lars.ON on Jun 9, 2011 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, let me think about tha -

naaaaaaaa

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by lietothegirls on Jun 9, 2011 2:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Sounds plausible... Tempting... Time to jump onboard?

Wait! Don’t do it! Smokescreen!!

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by MustangMBS on Jun 9, 2011 3:39 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I disagree with a few of your points

But I’m rec’ing solely for the fact that it was very well written and researched fanpost.

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by Aykis16 on Jun 9, 2011 3:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Solid post

Very thorough and convincing. Even psyched me up a little. However you left out one glaring point that needs to be addressed. And that is, if we draft Jimmer, what do we do with Hassan Whiteside?

by kurtis22 on Jun 9, 2011 4:18 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

We dont do anything with Hassan Whiteside

He does what he wants.

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by lars.ON on Jun 9, 2011 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great post Blob - Rec'd

I would add to your impact section, that it helps if lottery picks have at least one thing they excel at where they can impact a basketball game.

Players like Leonard and Vesley worry me, because for all of their athleticism, they have no fundamental part of the game I have been made aware they can impact. Most of the hopes with them are aspirational, based off of their measurements, athletic ability and supposed work ethics.

Jimmer brings a definable skill that he will excel at. I think Jimmer could be a very good addition to our team. Both in terms of talent and fit with our stars.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jun 9, 2011 11:04 PM PDT reply actions  

As a Kings fan

I hope you’re kidding and way wrong. Jimmer’s ceiling is Ben Gordon’s glory years (all 3 of ‘em) … his base case is JJ Redick reborn … down case, John Paxson in a league that’s now a lot more athletic & faster. If Kings took him at 17 or 27, I’d say Q Douby and Good luck!

by Watty4ever on Jun 9, 2011 11:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Why?

What is your reasoning, if any?

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by caseycheesecake on Jun 10, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do I have all day?

Name one thing better about Jimmer’s game than JJ Reddick? Reddick was dominant player in the country’s best conference for 2 years; could score from anywhere on anyone & is just as athletic as Jimmer. Same hype, same player … but tall enough to actually defend the 2.

At 6’2" with virtually no handle, Jimmer has zero chance of being effective 1 in the NBA. Like Gordon, he’s just a short 2. Unlike Gordon, it’s doubtful he can effectively guard the 2 … and Gordon wasn’t very good himself on D. Your absolute best-case would be Jason Terry, but Terry was Pac10 POY playing the point after playing 2-3 years at the 2 and had the handle to break down D’s coming into the league.

Maybe I’m wrong about Jimmer, but I doubt it. JJ Reddick, c’mon down.

by Watty4ever on Jun 12, 2011 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see a resemblance to Ben Gordon

Gordon has always been a smallish SG. Reddick too. Jimmer projects as PG. That’s the difference. There may be some question about his ball-handling, but its incorrect to say Jimmer has virtually no handle.

Reddick had the look and feel of a SG at Duke. He would do a lot of catch and shooting, or one dribble and shot. Despite all the shots Jimmer took, he has the look and feel of a PG. He can create his own shot off the dribble. He plays with lower center of gravity which is more oriented towards being PG. He seems quicker too making his moves (PG) versus more deliberate pace of Reddick (SG).

Stephen Curry is a better example than Gordon or Reddick. Curry was a high volume scorer from smaller school like Jimmer, who because of his size had to make the transition to PG in NBA. Jimmer will do the same, and will benefit from playing with a guard with whom he can share ball-handling duties, like Tyreke.

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by bench_blob on Jun 12, 2011 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

By saying "virtually no handle"

I KNOW you havnt watched anything other then highlight videos of his bombs. Dude can handle AND distribute. Seen it in person.

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by lars.ON on Jun 13, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Locked on Jazz Jimmer breakdown

I didn’t want to start another Jimmer thread. But I think Locke had done a great job on this scouting series and I think he gives a pretty good breakdown here:

http://www.nba.com/jazz/features/locked_on_jazz.html

Basically says Jimmer should be a great scorer. Is a very good passer. And can be effective driving as he develops a floater. However, he will struggle scoring at the hoop and played little D. Although he did show some clips where Jimmer seemed to be trying to play D and was generally effective. So he puts in the caveat that Jimmer is not a lost cause there, but will certainly have to put in consistent effort at the next level.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jun 10, 2011 1:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Nice read -- rec'd!

Though I disagree not necessarily on particular points, but on the general thought that combine athleticism does not necessarily translate into game athleticism…especially on the defensive end. Just as lack of impressive combine numbers don’t dictate lack of athletic NBA game ability, I don’t think good numbers translate directly into good NBA athleticism either.

But nice post….still quite informative and entertaining.

by sactoreg on Jun 10, 2011 7:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Great write up

I’m miles upon miles behind the Jimmer bandwagon with no intentions of trying to catch up, but it’s nice to see an informative write up with facts, as opposed to the usual “Jimmer RuleZ let’s draft him” BS that’s flooded every thread over the last month.

by J Ryan on Jun 10, 2011 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

lol Aran Smith moved Bismack to 20 what an idiot

by NastyNas on Jun 10, 2011 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

You see his workout video on the main page..I would be dropping him too- No Offense

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by Widowwolf on Jun 12, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice post

I’d be comfortable with Jimmer as our seventh pick. Outside shooting is an area if need for our team. This has never been a question with him. His athleticism is better than expected, which should translate to decent defense. His defensive deficiencies were partly to keep him out of foul trouble and save energy for the offensive end. He won’t be a stopper, but his attitude, work ethic, and athleticism are the makings of a good defender. He would be a step above Beno (who isn’t)).

The area that I see Jimmer being most valuable is drawing fans into the arena. Like him or not, there’s no denying his popularity. For a franchise struggling to stay afloat, this can’t go unnoticed. He fills a need on the court and in the Maloof’s pocketbook. Unless Kemba blows GP away, I’m on board with Freddette.

Nice write-up.

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by kingofpain on Jun 10, 2011 1:09 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

He won’t be a stopper, but his attitude, work ethic, and athleticism are the makings of a good defender. He would be a step above Beno (who isn’t)).

Good point. I think Beno is a good character guy, but his lax attitude on defense reminds me of Hawes and his refusal to achieve anything greater on the court (what was his argument? “This is the way I play the game”, or something similar?) Beno doesn’t even seem to try to play D, and if Jimmer has the slightest interest in bettering himself in that department, he deserves the bulk of the minutes between the two of them (assuming we draft him and keep Udrih.

by J Ryan on Jun 10, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sign him up!

We should move down in the draft and get him at #9 though, so we can also get Honeycutt or Singleton at #19.

by g4y Vulture on Jun 10, 2011 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Awesome, blob.

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by DTG13 on Jun 10, 2011 10:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Great post , rec'd.

But can we start calling him Jim IF we take him ? That name sucks ass!

by 9K1NGS6 on Jun 11, 2011 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

THE ARENA WILL BE ROCKING ONCE AGAIN...

with jimmer our old arena will be rocking once more…

by NuttySide on Jun 11, 2011 12:20 PM PDT reply actions  

The underlying issue

is that Jimmer is (gulp)….a white guy. Not a Euro white guy who dominated some unknown Euro league through grainy Zapruder film workouts in a gym surrounded by chain link protected moats, but a Mormon kid with an erectile nickname. I think everyone thinks this to some degree, and putting his name in the #7 slot makes everyone a little apprehensive. If he was a black, inner city phenom, he’d all of a sudden be a lights-out scorer with scary upside, and would be Steph Curry 2.0 and not John Paxson or Steve Kerr. But being a guy who looks like he should be riding through the suburbs on his bike, wearing short-sleeved white dress shirts with a black tie, ready to spread the good word…..well, thats a little disconcerting. Is he Fred Hoiberg or Ray Allen? Not sure, but when opposing NCAA teams absolutely centered their defensive schemes to stop Fredette, he still lit them up. At the basket, or just across mid-court, Fredette is a scoring machine. How well that translates to the pros is unknown, but the same can be said for most players in this draft. Draft the kid, because at #7 I’d rather have the Kings swing for the fences!

by IamPurple on Jun 13, 2011 8:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Personally I think the world is a bit more grey

And after first glance I think most of the reasonable and pervasive concerns revolve around the assist numbers (advaned and assist/turnover rate) and whether he is more of a SG in a PG body.

by wallywagon11 on Jun 13, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Controversial--

-but interesting to think about, as well. I’d be interested to see if there was any research about something similar. Body attributes changes our perception of someone’s character-taller, thin, good looking people are perceived as more trustworthy, while short, fat, ugly people are not (I don’t have a source for this, but I’m pretty sure research supports it)—so why wouldn’t they affect our perception of someone’s physical capabilities?

Basketball is widely regarded as an African American’s sport—White Men Can’t Jump, anyone? African Americans are perceived to be superior athletes to Caucasians and Asians (in America, at least). Obviously, that means that a white guy is going to be less than stellar athletically, and follow in the footsteps of John Paxson and Steve Kerr.

I’ve no idea if I’m making a point here or spouting nonsense, so I’ll leave it at that!

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by Donovan Jeska on Jun 13, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

...someday I'm going to remember that "--" enables the strike-through code.

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by Donovan Jeska on Jun 13, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Insightful post

We all see other people through our own set of biases and through all the stereotypes that we may subconsciously hold. I think that there is a big difference in pointing out those stereotypes and asking for people to be more aware rather than saying something out of that subconscious crap.

Jimmer is a scorer and given the combine stats his athletic abilities may violate the preconceived image of white, unathletic players who can score. And then add in the images that we have about missionaries and I could definitely see how that could be a bit confusing for those who would rather think give less thought to the subject.

I think that you set a a good example IamPurple. On StR we should all be purple.

I didn't major in Common F-cking Sense, but ...

by MustangMBS on Jun 14, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd take Walker over Jimmer

I would rather have Kemba Walker than Jimmer anyday. Kemba is not the shooter, but what a winner…

by big-cuz fan on Jun 13, 2011 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Rec'd

Very informative and entertaining write-up. Thanks b_b

Kings rule! (They are royalty - right?)

by dalt99 on Jun 21, 2011 2:29 PM PDT reply actions  

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