The Business Journals: Kings are most difficult NBA team to root for
Nobody said it was easy.
(Still, I have a hard time believing it's easier being a Raptors fan.)
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I’d also like to thank the Business Journals for making me feel inferior by forcing me to look up the definition of a word… in your headline. (Although you finished the headline with a preposition so poo on you.)
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Yeah, that's silly. And after looking it up, I'd argue the validity of that opinion
Yes, the team has moved a lot in the past, but they’ve been in Sac for a generation.
by Kfan in Korea on Jul 13, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmpf
Not for nothing, but the 60 year title drought is a key component in this ranking. I wonder how many Kings fans have been entrenched for that period, following the team from Rochester to Cincy to Kansas City (and Omaha) to Sacramento. It would probably make more sense to cook the Sacramento number instead of the overall number.
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by section214 on Jul 13, 2011 9:21 AM PDT reply actions 7 recs
I thought for a second that was Randy looking at me.
Well I guess I´ll be proud to be a Kings fan even if it takes another 20 years to win a title (which it won´t). It´s a sad understanding of what being a fan means if your only way to enjoy your team is them winning rings. I feel a little sad for Scott Thomas for what he misses out on.
This article does show one big positive
even though the Kings haven’t won a ring in 60 years and only really had one big run of success so far in Sacramento, it’s pretty impressive losing has not really become part of the Kings fan identity.
The Royals won the Championship
in the first season after I was born. They were lead by Arnie “Hot Hand” Risen.
I am thinking I need to be reborn for the Kings to win a title…
That sacrifice will be a tad tough.
Esp on my mom……182 pounds….Ouch!
As a result of the NBA going dark and staging a lockout I plan on saying only depressing things until the season starts. If they put out the schedule I plan to also go and sit in the Arco parking lot on nights games would have been played. I will Tivo CSN on games nights. They can't stop me. Its my team and I'll cry if I want to, cry if I want to.
The last time the Chicago Bears won their last championship 37 days before I was born
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by HeuristicLineup on Jul 13, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
She can take it...
trust me.
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"I never read those trade threads. They seem to be mainly populated with the sports equivalent of people who think the Rapture is imminent." - andy sims.
"I regularly sacrifice good taste for great laughs." - Section214 (speaking of which, check out my comedy website, where you can access video clips of my stand-up @ here
by PhutureKings on Jul 14, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this such a bad thing
I hate bandwagon fans, its the hometown team (well since the mid 80s!), who cares how popular the team is nationally
by Murf on Jul 13, 2011 11:07 AM PDT reply actions 8 recs
this.
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yes!
I’m not really sure what they are trying to measure here.
It is an emotionaly roller coaster for sure, but I do not find it difficult to be a fan of the kings. It would be much harder for me to not to be a fan of them.
The Kings are my favorite sports team but it's true
Being a Kings fan sucks ass in so many ways. That said I wouldn’t switch teams or give it up for anything. Maybe I have issues? Lol it’s like being in love with someone who beats you.
I love beating dead horses.
by allbenji's on Jul 13, 2011 1:21 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
For me, it's a matter of perspective
As a Giants fan, it took me each of my 51 years to see a world championship, while I am only entering year 27 as a Kings. What I’ve learned along the way is to enjoy Mays and Marichal and McCovey and Richmond and Webber and Divac. Over time, the journey provides more memories than the destination. That’s life, I guess. But up until last November, being a combo Giants/Kings fan was certainly a labor of love.
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If only people were as dedicated to marriages as they were to their sports teams.
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by caseycheesecake on Jul 13, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
probably would be
if trades were allowed and you could draft rookies
As a result of the NBA going dark and staging a lockout I plan on saying only depressing things until the season starts. If they put out the schedule I plan to also go and sit in the Arco parking lot on nights games would have been played. I will Tivo CSN on games nights. They can't stop me. Its my team and I'll cry if I want to, cry if I want to.
by ElRonToro on Jul 13, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 39 recs
Best reply ever
And if it only goes for me and not the wifey I think we should institute these revolutionary rules in the next marriage CBA.
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jul 13, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
this should be a stronger tint of green somehow
by wallywagon11 on Jul 13, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rainbow
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Jul 14, 2011 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Double rainbow?
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Jul 14, 2011 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like how you set your own joke up.
In these times, you have to be an optimist to open your eyes when you awake in the morning.
~Carl Sandburg
lol
I didn’t want to set up another green in the same thread.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Jul 14, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
the college scouting reports would be phenominal
the high school blue chip recruits stuff though would be a little creepy
by wallywagon11 on Jul 13, 2011 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
League rules dictate they have to be at least one year removed from high school to enter the draft.
…Or 19 and European. Which sounds awesome, btw.
"Put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair, and I can GUARANTEE Tyreke would demolish either. You might want to rethink what you just said." - MarcusC.
"I never read those trade threads. They seem to be mainly populated with the sports equivalent of people who think the Rapture is imminent." - andy sims.
"I regularly sacrifice good taste for great laughs." - Section214 (speaking of which, check out my comedy website, where you can access video clips of my stand-up @ here
by PhutureKings on Jul 14, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't age the extra 20 years
until I sat directly in front of you at StR night. The Thundrsticks wounds still have not healed.
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by section214 on Jul 13, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Section you are a wise sports fan
I love beating dead horses.
by allbenji's on Jul 13, 2011 5:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Really?
I’d hate to be a fan in a place like Toronto, where no one wants to go or stay. At least stars that don’t want to come here eventually fall in love with it. And I’d also hate to be a fan of a team whose karma decided to take their superstar rookie’s first year from him just as a reminder that they’re permanently in the karmic doghouse as long as their team is owned by Donald fucking Sterling
"What the fuck did I do?" - McNulty
I think Minnesota is worse than Toronto.
At least Toronto has a hockey team.
Minne just has ungodly cold and a poster of Kevin Garnett.
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by caseycheesecake on Jul 13, 2011 3:22 PM PDT reply actions
Let me tell y'all a thing or two
about being a die hard fan to a team that’s known for losing (check my name below)
by Cubs n Kings on Jul 13, 2011 4:01 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
No surprise. As a native of Sacramento that lives out East I get a funny look when I tell someone my fav pro sports team is the Kings. You would surprised by the number of people who have not the slightest idea where in CA that Sactown is.
by VirginiaKingsFan on Jul 13, 2011 4:54 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
When I was in Hawaii the shuttle driver asked me "Thats next to LA right?"
Can't wait for October
by KingsFanInPortland on Jul 13, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
when I lived in KY
My nickname was OC for some reason. No matter how many times I explained it.
The weather outside is weather. - Kunu
by Red Reign on Jul 14, 2011 1:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
When I lived in KY
My nickname was brother, and it was given to me by my mom, dad, brother, sister, uncle, aunt…
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When I went to Kentucky Fried Chicken
my nickname was “Extra Side of Gravy Guy.”
I only went there once, and no one said this to my face. I might not have even had an official nickname. But, if I did, that would probably be it…because they don’t know much about me other than I ordered a side of extra gravy.
"Put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair, and I can GUARANTEE Tyreke would demolish either. You might want to rethink what you just said." - MarcusC.
"I never read those trade threads. They seem to be mainly populated with the sports equivalent of people who think the Rapture is imminent." - andy sims.
"I regularly sacrifice good taste for great laughs." - Section214 (speaking of which, check out my comedy website, where you can access video clips of my stand-up @ here
by PhutureKings on Jul 14, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I want to know why Red Reign and Section214 both lived in KY
that’s a lot of jelly for two guys
by betweentheeyes on Jul 14, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that is weird.
I mean, I swim in it sometimes, but living in it? No thanks.
"Put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair, and I can GUARANTEE Tyreke would demolish either. You might want to rethink what you just said." - MarcusC.
"I never read those trade threads. They seem to be mainly populated with the sports equivalent of people who think the Rapture is imminent." - andy sims.
"I regularly sacrifice good taste for great laughs." - Section214 (speaking of which, check out my comedy website, where you can access video clips of my stand-up @ here
by PhutureKings on Jul 14, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't speak for RR,
but the answer is simple and obvious for me – I’m a dick.
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not done in the same spirit but ...

I raise a gloved fist in your honor (it’s the KY)
by betweentheeyes on Jul 14, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Univ of Louisville plays at the KFC Yum Center
It’s nicknamed the “Bucket.” They are currently recruiting a stud ball player named “Chicken.” Seriously.
The weather outside is weather. - Kunu
by Red Reign on Jul 15, 2011 5:43 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
true story
I was at the Makers Mark distillery in Jan 2004 when it was about 10 degrees. Tour guide kept messing up. She said “I’m sorry y’all, my family tree doesn’t branch.”
The weather outside is weather. - Kunu
by Red Reign on Jul 15, 2011 5:31 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I would say the most pathetic, perhaps not peripatetic fans are in Los Angeles and cheer for the Lakers
And perhaps worse off are the Knick fans in New York. They have piad higher ticket prices and dealt with a persistent onslaught of disappointment more so than us here in Sacramento the last fifteen years.
Still, I have a hard time believing it’s easier being a Raptors fan.
Clippers, perhaps? I know they have Blake Griffin, but they play in the Lakers’ building and have Donald Sterling for an owner. While I am not a Clippers fan, I have a great deal of respect for that group of people.
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CALIFORNIA ANGELS . . . ANAHEIM DUCKS . . . CALIFORNIA GOLDEN BEARS
1920 • 1921 • 1922 • 1923 • 1937 • 1947 • 1951 • 1957 • 1959 • 2002 • 2007
As a Kings fan, I actually feel sorry for Clippers fans
’Nuff said.
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Lol, I'm actually wearing a Clippers tshirt this very moment
They’ve always been my #2 team after the Kings since I hit basketball puberty (age 12)
" 1 + 1 = 3 " - David Kahn
The Clippers as a #2 team
There is a certain symmetry to that…
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by section214 on Jul 14, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You poor bastard.
I don’t know how you survived 2008.
"He forced it to go in the net, and that's a good thing." -Jerry Reynolds
Add the Pittsburgh Pirates and Atlanta Thrashers
and you’re life would be just grand.
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by AndyHogan14 on Jul 13, 2011 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Please don't root for USA Men's Soccer.
I want us to at least have SOME hope for a World Cup title!
"Put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair, and I can GUARANTEE Tyreke would demolish either. You might want to rethink what you just said." - MarcusC.
"I never read those trade threads. They seem to be mainly populated with the sports equivalent of people who think the Rapture is imminent." - andy sims.
"I regularly sacrifice good taste for great laughs." - Section214 (speaking of which, check out my comedy website, where you can access video clips of my stand-up @ here
by PhutureKings on Jul 14, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
a starting linueup of beno,kmart,salmons,brad miller and mikki moore
with cisco, hawes, and douby coming off the bench now THAT is a hard team to root for
lolz
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Jul 14, 2011 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions
What an idiot, I bet G. Scott Thomas is buddies with Youngman
After all, the first thing I take into consideration is a team’s 60 year history prior to deciding whether I should root for them. Right.
The link to the details of how he decided to rank teams is a joke as well. He sums it up as: wins, plus championships are a key component.
This study is worthless. I challenge anybody to do a more worthwhile study:
1. Which team has the most/least fans?
2. Which team’s fans have been fans the longest/shortest amount of time?
3. Which team has the most fans abroad?
4. What makes a team more likely to have fans (e.g. playstyle, winning, etc.)
- is important, because Thomas’ article is based upon wins, yet there is no proof other than his statement, and perhaps anecdotal evidence for this…until he cites otherwise.
i want to pound this guy
really difficult to write a 75 word summarization of obvious facts and couple it with a meaningless study that he didn’t even conduct.
couple thoughts……
1. this guy knew nothing of the sacramento kings before writing this article
2. the day i trust The Business Journals to get any sports news is the day i fall out of love with sports.
3. This guy looks like doctor leo marvin’s bullied, younger brother
4. this study is absolutely meaningless and considers limited/shallow/obvious reasons that require no insight in really determining how hard it is to root for a team (did you see the criteria for judging)
5. did i mention i want to pound this guy…. kick us while we are down why don’t you
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by Loyalty2Royalty on Jul 14, 2011 10:40 AM PDT reply actions
this is where i would post a picture of dr. leo marvin holding a hand puppet talking to his daughter
can anyone help?
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by Loyalty2Royalty on Jul 14, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I find it hilarious you want to "pound this guy" over such a random article
I don’t get how anyone could get worked up at all about this. Absolute silliness.
by wallywagon11 on Jul 14, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
maybe his definition of "pound this guy" is not what you're thinking
now I have to go pound…my beer O.o
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by sj60615 on Jul 14, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
well not literally wally.....
it’s a sensetive subject, especially the last 6 months
i do feel he needs to get called out for referencing such a meaningless study and trying to support/justify it with 3 short sentences of information (info that he was probably absolutely unaware of)
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by Loyalty2Royalty on Jul 14, 2011 11:04 AM PDT reply actions
reply fail
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by Loyalty2Royalty on Jul 14, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
it's a pathetic study, based on limited criteria
a real sports writer could tear that study up in a heart beat
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by Loyalty2Royalty on Jul 14, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I have no idea why it would even come close to being a sensitive subject. It's their silly By the Numbers project they do in the dog days of summer when there is nothing to write about. They do it for every team in every professionl sports league
and the whole point of it is to keep it simple stupid with numbers.
This is like getting personally offended and worked up when ESPN writes their “Best Fans” silly survey thing every year. Utterly pointless.
by wallywagon11 on Jul 14, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i am sorry you took it so literally... the pounding that is
and yes, it is a sensetive subject
This team is not a guarantee to stay…. so any negative attention aimed our way does nothing but damage the franchise in my eyes. (even if the damage is minimal)
during these uncertain times I am going to be a little sensetive, especially to jackasses like this, who credit these stupid “studies” by bringing them up in their lame attempts at journalism.
"Bobby Jackson sends a dagger DEEP into the heart of Texas!" Kevin Harlan
by Loyalty2Royalty on Jul 14, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
besides....
if i want to get worked up over stupid shit that relates to my team i think this is the correct forum to do it in
"Bobby Jackson sends a dagger DEEP into the heart of Texas!" Kevin Harlan
by Loyalty2Royalty on Jul 14, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
i am going to go talk about PF's
"Bobby Jackson sends a dagger DEEP into the heart of Texas!" Kevin Harlan
by Loyalty2Royalty on Jul 14, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't take it literally
I just don’t get why one would take it so personally is all.
by wallywagon11 on Jul 14, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
because the love of my life could still run off to another city after this year
personal…. heck yeah it’s personal
"Bobby Jackson sends a dagger DEEP into the heart of Texas!" Kevin Harlan
by Loyalty2Royalty on Jul 14, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm a Indiana University alum (2009) and Kings fan since 1999-2000
That’s like 9 coaches in the last decade for my two favorite sports teams combined.
I guess I just love rooting for the "hard to root for" teams.
I was a Lakers & Heat fan and chose to become a Kings fan when I really got into enjoying the NBA (I saw the right path).
I’m also a Buffalo Bills fan and a ChiSox fan.
I know we're gonna lose but I still think we're gonna win.
I think what's overlooked in this article
Is that it doesn’t specify the who. Are the Kings hard to root for if you’re from Sacramento and have a vested interest in the city as well as the team? No. Now consider if you’re new to the sport and are trying to pick a team to follow. Yes, the Kings probably would be hard to follow. This guy isn’t trying to bash the Kings or the people who follow them, and his results aren’t terribly skewed by anything that I can see. Seeing as it’s coming from a business journal, it’s probably trying to assess some form of economic value of teams.
In conclusion, I’d be interested to see his results regressed against estimated values of the franchises.
















