'Disgusting'

To me acceptable uses of profanity can occur:

• When Playing the L*kers (L*kers itself counts as profanity in its vilest form)
• When talking about possible relocation efforts being made by the Maloofs
• When Samuel Dalembert wants to shoot 18 foot jumpers
• In bewilderment when Samuel Dalembert hits 18 foot jumpers
• In celebratory fashion when Tyreke Evans hits halfcourt game winners
• In celebratory fashion when Marcus Thornton does anything
• When trading for John Salmons and dropping 3 spots in the draft to do it
• When trying to read DeMarcus Cousins’ lips

Hope this helps!

I’m happy to a be a member (and, rarely, contributor) at StR; over the years I have found it to be reliable, responsible, thoughtful, and passionate.

There are wonderful fans here, great writing, well-thought out opinions, and innovative ideas. Having been a Kings fan since the beginning, and a season ticket holder for most of those years, I can say without a doubt that this is the best source of Kings’ talk and information available. Believe me, I’ve tried them all as I’ve moved about the country.

I’d describe myself as socially conservative, but politically liberal; I’ve admittedly got very little stomach for swearing, but absolutely none for racism or bigotry. I’ve always been impressed with how well this site is managed; considering the number of people, the number of topics, the number of posts, there is very little that I find offensive, and almost without fail it has been addressed by an editor long before I’ve seen it. I can only imagine that there’s a bit more that I never see, due to the vigilance of the editors on this site.

For comparison’s sake, I can hardly get through five minutes of KHTK’s talk shows without wincing; on the rare occasions that I do listen, I almost always regret it. (notable exception—Gerry Gerould)

To Tom Ziller, Section214, the associate editors, and the other contributors (regulars, newbies, pseudo-lurkers, the whole lot of you…)—thank you so much for running such a great site, and please keep up the great work!

I always defend him by saying you’ve got to always view him and what he says by acknowledging he is not a very bright guy. He can understand 1 =1 =2, but would be dumbfounded if you told him 0+2 , or 3-1 also = 2. He only sees what is straight ahead and does not have the perception or depth to see more than 1 possibility, or another approach, as an answer a question.
It basically I have my fact and its full speed ahead with him. Don’t bother me with reasoning or shades or gray.
He is basically a puppy who has successfully learned it is not ok to pee in the house but doesn’t have the thought process to realize the answer is to pee outside.
The floor of the Napear home is always wet. It doesn’t mean he is a bad guy, it just means thats all he is capable of.

All I can
Say is
Sometimes people
Can
Lash
Out
When they know
Nobody likes them

I’m half-Israeli and have been very outspoken about my fandom of Omri. I have read every article/fanpost/fanshot related to Omri, and commented on many.

There have been some stupid remarks, some not-so-funny jokes and the very rare outright anti-semitic remark. The editors of StR have been quick to stamp down such inappropriate behavior in most instances, and if they may have missed one or two, I am sure it was not by design.

I never liked Napear, but gave him a lot of credit for his support of Here We Stay (never mind that he had a personal interest). That credit is gone with this stupid and hurtful accusation.

If we assume that Fuck is a bad word and little Jimmy doesn’t know what it means, then him reading it causes no harm. If he does know what it means, then it causes no harm. What’s the big deal?

Also, if he knows what Fuck means, I’m pretty sure he can figure out that Frick really means the same thing.

I think it more likely he is more hurt and offended by the Peaches references and Grant put-downs. He is not going to say he doesn’t like Str because his feelings are hurt because he knows that will make him look and sound like a wimp. So, instead of expressing his hurt, he goes into attack mode -

“All this time I thought that I was a self-hating Jew. Turns out that I’m nothing but a lousy anti-semite.”

I think what amazes me here is the accusation in the face of what is overwhelming evidence of diversity at StR. I’m Jewish, Aykis is Greek (sorry Aykis, you’ve been outed). I suppose that Grant figures that we are nothing more than the result of Affirmative Action. Hell, rbiegler works for the state, and I can’t think of a more oppressed group of people. Yes, Ziller is the white overlord, but he’s still better than Rupert Murdoch.

OK, how about other members like our Latino correspondent, edm7 (Why do I feel like this is turning into an edition of “The Daily Show”)? And the all-too-many members to list that have joined us from around the world? We have members from every continent, and members that are incontinent. We even other planets if you want to include Poison Monkey.

We have women (I rarely have had the opportunity to boast that in my adult life).

We have kids that contribute here. Oh, and a note on that whole profanity thing – the pre-teen to young adult demographic swears more than they will at any other time in their lifetime. I’m all for site decorum, and I permit myself to swear on this site once a year (though I think that I have already burned through my supply through 2013 this year), but to think that this site is “profane” when compared to what can be seen at the movies or on TV or heard on the radio or bu searching itunes? Give me a fucking break I respectfully disagree.

We have members that can carry on an upper tier financial conversation, which is not to be undervalued in this day and age of the Kings. We have a great blend of serious posters and class clowns. We are, more than any other Kings blog, driven by our member participation.

I read jjham15 and Cowbell Kingdom, and I surf the net for news. But this is the only place where I choose to participate in written form. I don’t Tweet, and I don’t have a Facebook account. This is it, the only place for me. It is my community, and I choose to be a member in large part because of the diversity and flavor and different views and approaches to myriad topics. I am proud to flaunt my StR membership, as I feel that I am surrounded for the most part by intelligent fellow members that can think and process on a broad and open scale.

Are we perfect? Not by a long shot. Can we do better? Always. But this isn’t utopia, and it never will be. But to accuse this site of racism would be as ridiculous as accusing a certain radio “personality” of same because every player that he has called out for not playing hurt (Bobby Jackson and Kevin Martin) is African American.

This is a Kings blog site, and it is the place to go if you want the latest and accurate Kings news, and it is the place to go if you want to entertain/be entertained by fellow community members.

Grant Napear has become the inner most fear of every media person – a caricature of himself. It has become literally impossible to mock Grant Napear, because he does a better job of it than we can. He is a mean, nasty, unhappy little man, and he deserves no more of our time in the future than the time that it takes to wipe something unpleasant off the bottom of your shoe.

My deepest and most heartfelt condolences go out to Carmichael Dave, Jerry Reynolds, and anyone else that actually has to spend time with this waste of flesh.

A hero for taking on such responsibilities in the hunt for a new ESC in Sacramento, and a zero for allowing himself to be treated like the one little kid at the parent’s dinner party.

If Don Geronimo doesn’t agree with something, he’s going to state his opinion (and vociferously). If Grant Napear doesn’t agree with something, he’s going to state his opinion (and vociferously). If Carmichael Dave doesn’t agree with something that Don Geronimo and Grant Napear state vociferously, well he gets to keep his opinion to himself.

And maybe he’s doing the right thing – in this day and age, you gotta keep your job and keep putting food on the table. But that doesn’t make him noble.

That aside, I’m now officially boycotting KHTK, regardless of Kings coverage. Although I enjoyed Don’s show in the afternoon from time to time, I gave his morning show a listen and it seemed like even more fart jokes and pleasing of the lowest common denominator than the afternoon show. Carmichael Dave in the afternoon was pretty “meh”, I could take it or leave it. And we all know that Grant’s a hypocritical d-bag who would get chewed up in a real market with any competition for the sporting fans’ ear.

So there’s really nothing left on that station that’s worth a damn IMO. I’ll continue to get my Kings news here and catch Kings games on television or in person.

I think he’s been here a lot, that he’s had multiple log-ins, and has been banned at least twice, probably for racist comments.

He’s probably standing right behind otis right now.

(Ha! Made you look!)

Grant is treated mercilessly here, as is Ailene Voison. They are both denigrated, insulted and cast asunder. If they were attacked as members of this site, those offenders would be banned. The open court of the internet, the airwaves and the newspaper are different as ownership is based on reputation as well as deeds. That is, for better or worse, the nature of the business. This site is an amalgam of fan support for your Sacramento Kings. By attacking StR’s being, it’s raison d’etre is upsetting to me. And that is at the heart of what is being done here. It is a slice to slight the site and make it bleed. To weaken and cheapen it’s worth. I disagree with that premise fully and wholly.

It is hard for me to relate. Sure, some posters here are vile, they come here to spout anger or seek a fight or argument, but they are the minority. Many share their thoughts with passion and intelligence (sometimes both). That is the beauty and the beast of the medium. The internet is an open invitation, however being invited back is another story. It is part and parcel of the constant and persistent struggle of running an internet blog site. I respect the people that have that unenviable job (who get paid as much as you StR members pay them).
My way of dealing with them is to shrug and move on. It really doesn’t effect me or my thoughts. Is this “disgusting” incident different? For me, personally, it is not. Grant can call me a racist or bigot – it effects me not a bit. I have my work, my family and this is not even a speck of pepper in my rice bowl. I know who I am and am not, and Grant’s words are but wind. But, if he assigns the people I look up to – Tom Ziller and Section214, Aykis16, rbiegler – a slanderous, derogatory label, than I have to say this is an ill conceived poorly executed attack that has no basis. I would rather come here and just read about the Kings and the NBA, but this is a form of bullying, and I don’t take kindly to that.

Fortunately, I have the chance to make my opinion, for as little as it is worth, to mean something. I have my ears, my eyes, my wallet and my mouse clicker. I can chose to vote against Grant Napear or Ailene Voisen. I can chose to not listen and this effects the worth of his voice as radio revenue is based on your attention to his show. For the newspaper, it is not purchasing the paper or not clicking on the SacBee.com website. If you want to show your disapproval – ignore Napear, Ignore Voison. They are judged in a popularity contest (both positive and negative). It is hard to turn away from such an attack, however, If you, fellow reader, ignore these two, though difficult as it may be, they will whither on the vine like rotten fruit.

Lastly, I think this is a poor strategic move by Mr. Napear. I understand his frustration, but it fuels a fire that would be best left at simmer. To alienate or worse, to agitate, a cohesive fan base which supports his existence is beyond my understanding. Why wave a red flag at an angry bull? This will not end here and it will not end well.

It’s pointless to discuss anything else regarding him and his views about StR.

He is probably the most recognizable voice/face in relation to the Kings’ news. He is the Kings’ broadcaster for 23 years, since 1988 (that was before the Fall of Communism for God’s sake!). His position within the Kings organization is high and the responsibility that comes with it is huge. He is supposed to be a professional, a person who should deeply research anything concerning the Kings before he speaks about a related topic.

This is not a rhetoric question but how is it possible to talk so negative about a blog he hasn’t obviously visited? And we’re not talking about any blog. We’re talking about thousands of visitors each day, surpassing even the 10.000 mark in season days. It’s the most popular Internet website about the team he works for. The most loyal Kings fans are part of this community. In a humble 10 min visit (it’s less than Pooh’ playing time!), he could discover literally dozens (maybe hundreds with 10 more minutes) of top quality articles and analyses and not just from the brilliant editing team but from the everyday mortal fans.

By calling TZ “an idiot” and StR “disgusting”, I could say that he’s insulting both TZ and all of us, the thousands members of this community, but he is not. He is insulting himself. A person of his position should have known the importance of this blog for the Kings. Known? I’m being lenient. He should have been a member and participate to help boost the community even more. But not only he doesn’t know, he didn’t even have the decency to make a 10 min research before childishly condemning. He only proved what we already knew and mocked him for the past years: He is a stupid person who’s bad at his job.

If you can’t be right, be loud.

Grant is very loud.

p/s: I don’t get Grant’s show since I’m overseas. Could someone send me instructions on how to tune in to his show, so I can NOT tune in by choice?