This is not an advocacy to trade him (NaATTH)™
At some point, people need to step back from their emotions (and the ledge), and consider what is going on.
Assuming what Westphal has said about Cousins' trade demands are true (and I'm inclined to think that they are), fuck DeMarcus Cousins.
This is not an advocacy to trade him.
The argument that a man of Westphal's years has to act more mature because he's older is horseshit. Cousins is a full-grown man, is paid like one, and at some point, people will stop using the excuse that "he's just a kid."
He isn't. This is not an advocacy to trade him.
I thought Westphal's press release was worded in kind of a silly fashion, and was too specific (inclined as I am to privacy), but if Cousins is going to have bitch-ass tantrums, then let the fans see who he really is. Our beloved man-child allegedly stated on more than one occasion that he doesn't want to be your man-child anymore. You don't bother taking that personally, the fact that he asked to be sent anywhere to work that isn't Sacramento?
Do I think he really meant it? At the time he said it? Yes. Do I think he woke up this morning wanting to be traded? Not really.
But he fucking said it. This is not an advocacy to trade him.
Words mean things, and the argument of "being young" or "passionate" is complete crap. He's had over a year to adjust to the idea of being paid good money to play basketball (two years if you count the University of Kentucky), and that's enough. If any of the vociferous Cousins defenders truly believe he's going to settle down by 25, 28, 35 or 50, I have a bridge to sell you. People don't often change. They are who they are, and though we think we are capable of change most of us don't have the strength to pull it off. I'm not exactly Tony Robbins, here.
The point is, everyone looks at Ron Artest and his well-documented kerfuffles, and most of us can easily acknowledge that Metta has psychological issues (depression, bi-polar disorder, something), and he has addressed these issues with professionals, appears to be dealing with them fairly well, and has even been big enough to discuss them in public. Brave stuff in the world of hyper-masculinity.
So, is DeMarcus Cousins in need of the help of mental health professionals? Many of us are. I'm not qualified to say.
But what if DMC isn't just "young" or "immature" or "passionate?" What if he's angry in a DSM IV type of way? Then he should get some help. The Kings' organization should insist that he see psychological professionals, to find out whether talk therapy or medicines can help him with his problem.
Would he consent to such analysis? I'd bet a year of his salary that he wouldn't. This is not an advocacy to trade him.
What if DeMarcus Cousins is just simply a spoiled jerk? He wouldn't be the first. Like so many others, he's had everything put in front of him since grade school because he was tall and skilled. The Kings hired his high school coach, because he needs a babysitter. Does anyone really think the man has anything useful to add to the Kings as an organization? That he's been overlooked by far better high school programs, colleges, and the NBA until now? The man is a security blanket for a child. Anyone think Francisco Garcia ever needed this type of special consideration?
So, maybe he's a jerk. Maybe he needs help with his emotions. I don't really care, as long as he can acknowledge his own shortcomings, and attempt to deal with them. I like DeMarcus Cousins, I think he's an interesting person, very talented, and a complete pussycat when things are going his way. That isn't the definition of character.
Westphal handled this in a less than ideal fashion. I don't know if he's the guy to lead the Kings back to great success. If he isn't, I couldn't begin to guess who might be.
Any mistakes Westphal has made or will make do not include calling out DeMarcus Cousins for acting like a bitch. People like that are not good to have in an organization, especially when they are being counted upon to become leaders. This is not an advocacy to trade him.
I wouldn't trade DeMarcus Cousins. If I was Geoff Petrie, and anyone called to inquire about Cousins, I'd tell them to pound sand. I'd sit him for an entire season before I'd trade him for less than value. Cousins is a big boy, and he's going to have to go along to get along. When you're high profile, you don't get to blow off steam this way. It's part of the cost for an otherwise spectacular lifestyle.
You're staying here, DeMarcus. You're going to play team ball on and off the court, or you're going to wear a nice suit and sit in a folding chair. You're going to have disagreements with Paul Westphal, Keith Smart, or whomever is head coach of this team, because that's how you are. You're going to learn how the world works, or you won't. You can be great, or you can be Mike Olowokandi. I hope you can look within yourself and make the right decisions for yourself, and the team. You have a lot to offer on and off the court. It's going to be the most difficult thing you ever do in your entire life.
This is not an advocacy to trade him.
(NaATTH)™
(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)
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I agree
We can’t trade a guy for this caliber-type of player, DMC, needs also to grow up himself, he should learn that at first hand. Then PW, should also embrace his role as a father figure to this young team cause they need guidance and direction. DMC, Here We Stay. Do your stuff man prove it on the court stop all this BS around. You know how important you are to this team.
beat what you can't beat.
love what others hate and stand up when you fall.
So about that bridge....
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by prowseinthehouse on Jan 1, 2012 11:58 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
I know that you and I have only shared a few brief moments tonight on this blog
But I sir, am a fan.
by Jimmy Martin on Jan 2, 2012 12:21 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks!
Good to know I have fans. Now, I don’t have a twitter, but you can follow me around in real life, although I can’t promise I wont make you clap coconut halves together
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by prowseinthehouse on Jan 2, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
It's just a flesh wound.
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by andy sims on Jan 2, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
come back here, I'll bite your ankles!
by Lotusprime on Jan 2, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Bring out your dead...
Even though the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas!
by LeaguePassAddict on Jan 2, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
*running off in the distance with my sword held high
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by caseycheesecake on Jan 3, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
I have to agree with a lot of this
If I were the coach I don’t know how much better I’d be able to handle this situation than what Westphal has done. I know that I don’t like what Westphal has done, but I don’t know if I could give a better solution, especially if the fact that DeMarcus has had a lot of other off-the-court problems (which I suspect he has, particularly from the tip of the iceberg comment).
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Whoops!
So, in hindsight, maybe the giant picture of the kid on THE SIDE OF A BUILDING wasn’t such a great idea?
I think Demarcus needs to be knocked down a few pegs. So, they tell him to sit this one out, take him out of the opening video package tonight, and remove him from the theme of the kings.com website. The message: we gave you the keys from day one, and this is how you treat us?
There is a hierarchy of how things work. This is a business. If you wanna play the game, you gotta follow the rules.
If I had a twitter account,
I’d try to get #NaATTH to trend.
It does need to trend. Doesn't even need to apply to anything.
e.g: Dog licked its own poop then looked up and saw me give it stink eye. he pretends like nothin & comes over to be petted. #NaATTH.
This.
I'm starting to think both of these chuckleheads should be gone
I can’t get on board with giving Westphal a pass here though – as a member of the management of this organization, he (and Petrie tacitly) are continuously giving the impression that they have no problem throwing their players under the bus in the media.
Let’s say the team has no choice but to deal DeMarcus, due to his attitude and unwillingness to play for the Kings. Has the team’s actions here harmed or hurt his trade value?
It’s not about who’s right and who’s wrong. It’s about protecting the value of your assets and your organization’s reputation.
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by otis29 on Jan 2, 2012 5:20 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'm also surprised by the lopsided support of DMC over Westphal.
J.A. Adande made some good points in his article that should worry us about Cousins’s future with the Kings. Basically, regardless of who coaches DMC, there’s going to be a problem and the only possible solution is time and constant, repetitive discipline from multiple sources. We would have to cut bait for him to learn it’s the same everywhere else and then maybe he’d get it.
I think we can all agree that NBA players, like hot chicks, have a skewed perception of reality and self compared to us normies. Everyone’s ego and sense of self is constructed out of how they think other people see them (It’s called looking-glass self), so if all your life everyone around told you how effing money you were… you’d be fuct in the head too.
The antidote to this socially constructed psychosis is empathy – putting yourself in other people’s shoes. DeMarcus, like many people, doesn’t do that so well. That’s why he does shit like blow-off Westphal’s hi-five or act like an asshat on the court in front of thousands of people – stuff that would make most of us uncomfortable. He just doesn’t care and doesn’t believe he should care.
So what do the Kings do? Most people eventually do start to care more about what they look like through other people’s eyes; in other words, they mature. But what is ‘eventually’ going to be for him and do we really have time to find out? I think DeMarcus is gonna have a tough time getting there and so maybe a public flogging of his ego by the media, teammates and friends isn’t such a bad place to start.
by Caljin on Jan 2, 2012 6:39 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Adande also said that we should trade Cousins for 4 months of Dwight Howard
The again I thought Adande was a douche before I read the article.
by elSAVinator on Jan 2, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That just makes him more likely to go to the Lakers.
You didn’t know Adande was Kobe’s valet?
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Great post Andy
It’s time DMC woke up and gets with the program. The program being doing what is asked and expected of you by the boss (being Westy and the team as a whole). That’s how it’s done in the real world. Now we all know the NBA isn’t the real world, but if the boss (coach) asks/tells you to do something you try to do it to the best of your ability. You don’t have to necessarily like it, but you do it.
Now in fairness to DMC, maybe Westy and the team hasn’t handled the PR side of this as well as they could have, but in the end I think I side with the franchise given what we know so far. The franchise is bigger than DMC and he needs to learn this. It’s how it is in the real world.
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Great read, Andy
Entertaining and insightful, as always.
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Did DeMarcus say "trade me", I have no doubt he did
Did he say it in anger intended to convey “fuck you”, I have no doubt.
Doesn’t PW have a responsibility to treat his players with honesty and with respect, or is he the captain of his ship and can say or do anything he wants? This is the real crux of the matter.
Is PW taking any accountability of the teams problems or is he just deflecting his own failings on young inexperienced and emotional players? Would you let a boss or co-worker pass blame to you that isn’t justified. What has DeMarcus done on the court to deserve to be singled out by PW? Is he the reason we’re last in assists? Is he the reason the team is shooting 40% from the field? Is he the reason the team is allowing over 50 pts per game in the paint?
I guarantee you that if I thought that I was doing what I was told to do and trying my best and my supervisor called me out in front of the team, I wouldn’t take it lying down.
As far a DeMarcus still wanting to be traded. Based on the offseason signing and the number of NBA players that seem to be eager to join this team, I’d guess that anyone on the current roster that would be guaranteed a job somewhere else probably wants to be TRADED right about now.
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by HighTops on Jan 2, 2012 1:00 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I guess the question at that point is
Is he doing what he’s being told to do or is he doing what he wants to do?
Coming to the party late, but
If any of the vociferous Cousins defenders truly believe he’s going to settle down by 25, 28, 35 or 50, I have a bridge to sell you. People don’t often change. They are who they are, and though we think we are capable of change most of us don’t have the strength to pull it off.
I guess I must be ready to buy a bridge. Because, I absolutely do believe that players change and mature. Just like almost all young adults do. Are you seriously telling me that when you were twenty-one you didn’t think you knew much more than your parents? And are you further telling me that by the time you had a mortgage, a family, and all the other responsibilities of adulthood you didn’t realize what a complete and total ass you had been? Because that’s what happens with most young adults.
You mention Artest as an example. But I would look to Webber. It took two trades and three head coaches, but he finally pulled his head out of his butt and became a great player and a great person IMO. I fully expect Cuz to realize what a punk he has been and clean up his act. I just hope it is with the Kings and not whatever team we trade him too. One day he is going to be an All Star and I want him to be sporting the purple and black when he does.
And this is from a guy that thinks the PW call was poorly worded but absolutely justified.
It comes down to reality
And it's fine with me 'cause I've let it slide
by SavageBeast on Jan 2, 2012 2:56 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
Interesting and apt comparison to Webber, Nicely done.
I still think most of us are a little wiser at 40 than we are at 21, if only that the only thing I know for certain is that I know absolutely nothing for certain. I’m just a more multi-faceted asshole than I was at 21, but I’m pretty sure my college friends would still recognize me.
The real problem with Cousins or any other athlete with similar issues, is that he may be a wonderful citizen at 40, but statistically, he won’t be playing when he’s 30. I’d just like to see if he’s man enough to look past what is frequently labeled as youth/immaturity, and see if he has deeper problems than could be addressed in one way or another. No one wants to see him become successful and happy more than us Kings fans, no matter how we feel about this incident.
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by andy sims on Jan 2, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd for I’m just a more multi-faceted asshole than I was at 21,
It comes down to reality
And it's fine with me 'cause I've let it slide
DMC has red flag issues before we drafted him.
In other words, the front office KNEW shit like this was going to happen but they believe his talent out weighed his mental deficiencies. They believe that over the next 4 years of his rookie contract he would grow into a professional, mature adult. Maybe I am naive, but personally I believe he will make that change and I am definitely not ready to give up on the guy yet. But to type up a rant every time he has some “issue”, some issue by the way in which no details came out, is silly to me. I highly doubt he requested to be traded in the way that Westfail leads us to believe, but that is all speculation at this point. I don’t think PW has to go because of this incident, I believe PW needs to go because his coaching style is not clicking with our young roster.
This story is about Westphal and his choice to publicly air the issue.
Demarcus spoke out of frustration and immaturity
Westphal’s comments were calculated and planned.
I think the reason most of the “he said/she said” votes are in DeMarcus’ corner is because we have low expectations for Demarcus’ behavior. It doesn’t make it o.k. It’s bad behavior and we want him to develop into a coach-able and improving professional.
I don’t think there’s any question there are more productive ways for Westphal to have handled this specific challenge. I’m certainly not a face analysis expert with the CIA but I quickly ID’d Westphal as angry, challenged and defensive.
That’s just not what I’m looking for in someone to maximize DeMarcus’ talent and development. I hope I’m wrong.
I really hope I’m wrong
An unwinnable but not an untenable situation.
Paul Westphal had his press conference as a pre-emptive strike before the New Orleans game to explain why DeMarcus Cousins was not in the building. He had the opportunity to address the question on his own terms and he was able to focus on the DMC situation solely. If he had waited until the post game it would dominated the discussion (it may have already) no matter the outcome of the contest.
Being a coach in the NBA for 590 games (!), Paul Westphal is no rookie. He is a veteran presence and an avuncular one. He is also the authority figure on this team. He has undergone apparent numerous challenges to his authority by the youngest member of his team. His previous methods of controlling the player were ineffective. He changed his method – havoc ensued.
I would be willing to bet that if Paul Westphal had a winning record for this team or if his name was Jerry Sloan or Rick Adelman that the reactions here would be different. Paul Westphal is a respected member of the NBA community with many more advocates than detractors. But the Kings win few games and are in Sacramento, shouts and snickers were already asking to replace the coach, now they grow louder and more meaningful.
We can guess what was said, when it was said, in front of whom it was said, where it was said. We end up playing “He said, He said”. No thanks. We have no choice but to watch this soap opera move along, and discuss and argue over our opinions as to how it will all end. Let me tell you now – not well. Someone will not be working in Sacramento for very much longer. If it is Paul Westphal shown the door, than good luck finding a replacement other than Keith Smart or Jim Eyen. You have now labeled DeMarcus Cousins a coach killer. If DeMarcus Cousins is traded and the Kings then have even less talent – they will win even less games and no coach gets to stay with a losing record and a label of not being able to handle young players in this League.
by betweentheeyes on Jan 2, 2012 6:08 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Nicely done
This is an advocacy to trade DeMarcus Cousins to the Rockets. You know it’s the best home for centers. Try to help this troubled young man. You can talk about personal responsibility and acting like an adult all you like, but you know in your heart that he’ll get the help he desperately needs in Houston. Kevin McHale will teach him post moves. Hakeem will show him the Dreamshake. Moses Malone will swing by and beat the crap out of him, just so he understands his place in the world of centers.
For what it’s worth, I’m trying to imagine Yao Ming, who was just as young as DeMarcus when he came to the NBA, acting like Cousin’s has. And you can’t say Yao had less expectation riding on him, since he was carrying the basketball hopes of 1.3 billion people.
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no such thing will happen
ever
"i thought rasheed wallace was the best kings player or whatever that rookie's name is"
by Imminentfailure on Jan 3, 2012 1:28 AM PST up reply actions
I dunno, I'm pretty sure Moses Malone could still beat the crap out of him.
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Good Post
Nice to see an adult perspective on this.
*GASP*
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He don't know you very well,

do he?
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