The way talks broke down isn't something Dalembert liked. Nor did he like the Kings issuing a...

The way talks broke down isn't something Dalembert liked. Nor did he like the Kings issuing a statement about the talks.

"You know that's the business is and sometimes there's bad blood," Dalembert said. "I was expecting a more professional approach but obviously some people handle things differently. To me obviously they were upset and I wasn't wrong. I feel bad, they have a great fan base over there, I loved playing over there but I had the feeling they really didn't want me back. For them to come out and say something like that it shows they really didn't have it in mind to get me back. It's the way it is and it's the way the business is and I've had to deal with it."

Samuel Dalembert, on the Kings FO

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Our FO is

pretty bad

by aizen07 on Jan 14, 2012 10:51 PM PST reply actions 1 recs

Yup. Maybe we should just

Bust everyone in the FO down to floor sweeper and replace them with new people.

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by HarveySpecter on Jan 14, 2012 10:58 PM PST reply actions 1 recs

When Dalembert came to the Kings I was expecting a more professional approach but some people handle things differently

Let it go people. God bless the man for the work he does in Haiti, but he is a very average basketball player. He merely contributed to the “me first” attitude that is the single biggest problem with this Kings team. You don’t see Nene or Tyson Chandler or I don’t know Marcin freakin’ Gortat pretending they’re Kobe Bryant at the top of the key.

by blknblu on Jan 15, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions

That's one side of a story.

Let’s not rush to judgement.

"If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well
It were done quickly..."

by Ichiban on Jan 14, 2012 11:26 PM PST reply actions

Well

It may be one side of the story, true, but it does explain a lot. And also can explain the downslide of this team and organization over the last decade.

Let’s be real – an organization that has to market a rookie and a 20-5-5 campaign over the actual good of the team has some problems.

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by HarveySpecter on Jan 14, 2012 11:51 PM PST up reply actions

No arguing that.

"If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well
It were done quickly..."

by Ichiban on Jan 14, 2012 11:57 PM PST up reply actions

Not trying to be argumentative here

But what exactly do you think this explains?

If anything it still sounds to me like Dally’s agent was using the Kings to get a better deal from Houston. Once we realized we we being used, we stepped out of the game and Dally had to take Houston’s offer. If that ticks him off, so be it. I don’t see anything here that makes our FO look bad. But I would be curious what you get from this story.

It comes down to reality
And it's fine with me 'cause I've let it slide

by SavageBeast on Jan 15, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs

While I have no illusion our FO is at the top of its game right now

And plenty of whispers from writers seem to point that out, I agree with your assessment. I think Dally was unhappy from the year before, and had little intent to sign in Sactown again, and was just using us to get a better deal from Houston.

by MichaelMack on Jan 15, 2012 8:57 PM PST up reply actions

i alos think that is what happened

"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
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by lietothegirls on Jan 17, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions

'also'

sheesh

"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
- Chessmaster Savielly Grigorievitch Tartakower

by lietothegirls on Jan 17, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions

Still

why let your center walk when he and your prized rookie (DMC) finally begin to gel as a front court duo? I’m all for the Hayes signing, and even for Hickson, but I’d rather have Dalembert than three of the small forwards on the team.

by boredwiththeUSA on Jan 15, 2012 9:22 AM PST reply actions

because he really didn't want to be here

We were being used as a tool to jack up Sammy’s value

Currently satiating my hunger for Kings basketball with a renewed focus on the NINERS

by Tetsu on Jan 16, 2012 4:07 AM PST up reply actions

That article is as clear as mud.

The best I can tell is that the Kings FO didn’t want Dalembert back for the kind of money that they got Hayes. But, then went begging when it looked like Hayes had heart problems.

Then it really get vague. Did Dalembert sign with Houston because of the Kings not making him an offer? Or, did the FO find out Hayes could play, rescinded the offer to Sam, and put Sam in a weak position where he had to accept a worse offer from Houston?

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by HighTops on Jan 15, 2012 12:30 PM PST reply actions 2 recs

Yep

Don’t see how this clears up what went down at all.

It comes down to reality
And it's fine with me 'cause I've let it slide

by SavageBeast on Jan 15, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions

That is pretty much my take on what happened.

Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."

by Slam_Dunk on Jan 15, 2012 7:56 PM PST up reply actions

Now, I know that to take it with a grain of salt since it's Daly,

But I was just wondering. For him to bring up the FO and all, I wonder if that points to some goings ons that aren’t all that professional in the organization.

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by HarveySpecter on Jan 15, 2012 9:37 PM PST up reply actions

I have no idea what went on in terms of how "professional" it all went down.

I was responding to HT’s assertions:

1. The FO really didn’t want Dally back all that much. (Agree)

2. The FO went begging, when it looked like Hayes had the heart problem. (Agree)

3. It all got very vague. I assumed that the FO picked up Hayes, when they found out he could play and rescinded the offer to Dally.

Pure conjecture, but I suspect that Dally read the FO correctly (that they really didn’t want him all that much) and as a result he felt hurt and didn’t feel the FO handled the situation well. Too bad. It is a business, though.

Dally, on the other hand, could have handled the situation more professionally, by not making the kind of statement he made about the FO.

Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."

by Slam_Dunk on Jan 16, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions

This alone does not condemn the FO

It is a subjective view and as others have said, it hardly sheds light on things.

But the evidence exists already. The free agents slipping through our fingers (despite reportedly better offers), the questionable trades and extensions, the outright ignoring of advanced stats. But most of all, the team’s record for the past 6/7 years.

I grant you that some things are out of their hands. What else can you do if you make someone the best offer possible, only for that player to sign elsewhere? If your owners are sitting on their cheque book, how can you make positive moves?

Unless you retire, you can only live off former glory for so long. Something needs to improve so the team can improve. New ownership and eventually a new FO may be exactly what this franchise needs…

by Rickyflip on Jan 16, 2012 5:15 AM PST reply actions

How can you blame the front office for a FA choosing another team

when we make a better offer? Lots of things you can blame on them, but a guy choosing to go somewhere else despite us making the best offer is not really one of them.

It comes down to reality
And it's fine with me 'cause I've let it slide

by SavageBeast on Jan 16, 2012 8:05 AM PST up reply actions

Hence this part of my post:

I grant you that some things are out of their hands. What else can you do if you make someone the best offer possible, only for that player to sign elsewhere?

by Rickyflip on Jan 16, 2012 9:01 AM PST up reply actions

I don't believe Ricky was blaming the FO entirely

The final sentence states it all.

New ownership and eventually a new FO may be exactly what this franchise needs…

this franchise is in need of new ownership that possesses a wallet and not a change purse. And, just like in GS when the new owner took over, they put in their own choices at the top. And, having that happen here is ‘exactly what this franchise needs’. No matter who’s to blame.

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by HighTops on Jan 16, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs