The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: 2011-12 Week 3
Five games in one week, and the Kings only manage to win one. Along the way we had two competitive losses as well as two blowouts, one which set some records for futility. If you've been a Kings fan these last few years, this isn't anything new.
The Good:
1. Tyreke Evans
See Player of the Week
2. Isaiah Thomas
Isaiah came in this week and proved that he can be a good player in the NBA. He plays scrappy defense, distributes the ball well, and really sets a nice tempo. His shot still isn't consistent, but he takes good shots for the most part. I'm looking forward to seeing more of Isaiah.
3. First Road Win in Toronto
Both teams probably came in thinking that this was a game they should win. Luckily for us, it was the Kings who ended up victorious, and it was in large part due to the play of DeMarcus Cousins, Isaiah Thomas and Tyreke Evans. Those three carried the team during this game, with Cousins killing it inside and on the glass, Tyreke getting to the line, and Isaiah providing a burst of energy and a scoring punch. The game was tied going into the 4th, and the Kings managed to close out a game that in previous years they might have lost.
4. DeMarcus Cousins
5 games this week, 4 double-doubles. Aside from the game against Houston where he got shut down by a cold and Dalembert, DeMarcus is establishing himself as one of the best young centers in the league, especially on defense, where he is making a significant impact. He still has a lot of work to do, but I love seeing the improvement all-around from him. Even his on-court demeanor has significantly improved as he is no longer protesting every foul or non-foul that is called.
5. Donté Greene
Donté has come in off the bench and provided some quality defense and is actually rebounding well for a change (almost double the rate of his career). He still isn't shooting consistently (almost nobody on the team has), but he's provided good energy off the bench.
6. Free Throw Shooting
Another great week from the Kings at the line, going 91 of 113 in their 5 games (80.5%).
7. Jason Thompson
Jason has been our most efficient big by far this year, and the only Kings player to be shooting above 50% from the field. He went 17 of 27 (62.9%) this week and probably should be starting ahead of J.J. Hickson at this point.
The Bad:
1. Marcus Thornton Thigh Contusion
I think the Kings would have won another game if they had a healthy Thornton. Nobody really replaced his production while he was gone, and when he came back against Dallas, he didn't play well. Hopefully he'll be fully healthy Monday against Minnesota.
2. J.J. Hickson
That trade isn't looking all that great right now. Hickson has great athleticism, energy and is a tenacious rebounder. That's about all he offers though, as he has almost no post-game (he faces up 95% of the time), his shot is terrible off the dribble (and he takes almost all his shots off the dribble), and his defense is porous. I would have him come off the bench to provide energy, because we need consistency in the starting lineup and he hasn't provided that.
3. Travis Outlaw and Francisco Garcia
Outlaw has played himself out of the rotation, and for good reason too. Garcia has largely replaced him, and he hasn't been much better. Both guys are having a really tough time hitting their shots despite being good shooters for their career.
4. Ball movement
The Kings had 17 assists against Houston this week. That was a season high. Some of this has to do with guys just not hitting their shots, but most of it is because the ball simply isn't moving as much as it needs to. Jerry Reynolds talked about the need to make the extra pass, and so far, the Kings aren't making the extra pass.
The Ugly:
1. Blowout in Philadelphia
The Kings got beat in every single quarter of this game, but really broke out in the 2nd half. The offense was stagnant, and the defense was even worse. Philadelphia was getting everything they wanted inside or out, and showcased how a team plays basketball, getting 30 assists on 47 made baskets.
2. Even Worse Blowout in Dallas
I fortunately did not have to watch this game. Franchise low 23 points in a half, 60 points in the game, 25.6% shooting from the field. Just flat out embarrassing.
3. Jimmer Fredette
Right now, Jimmer is playing terribly. He's being asked to play the role of point guard, a role he's clearly not comfortable in, and he also seems tentative on offense. Speaking of his offense, that was the one part of the game that he was supposed to excel at, but his shooting has been horrid to date. This week, he shot 8-30 overall (26.7%) and 4-15 from 3 (also 26.7%). If anything his supposed weakness, his defense, has been better than his offense. Despite putting him in the Ugly column this week, I'm not too worried about Jimmer just yet. It's his rookie year, he's in a shooting slump, and has had very little practice time thanks to the lockout.
4. John Salmons
John's 8 points on 7 shots to go with 7 boards and 3 assists was his best performance of the year. That's how bad he's been. His shooting has been way off (0-15 from 3 this week) and his defense has been iffy to say the least. Hopefully the Dallas game shook him out of this slump he's been in, and that becomes that game's redeeming quality.
5. The Rebuilding Effort
This looks like yet another lost year to rebuilding, with the playoffs a year or two away. We seem to keep going through this process year after year. I'll respect Geoff Petrie forever for his draft prowess and for assembling the best team in Kings history, but right now it looks like that is the only reason why he still has a job. The talent continues to not mesh, and the moves that have been have not worked out for the most part. I do believe there is a financial aspect to this, and that won't be rectified until the Maloofs either open up the pocketbook or sell the team to someone who will.
Player of the Week:
Tyreke Evans
20.4 PPG, .432 FG%, 4.8 RPG, 4.2 APG, 2.2 STL
I'm discounting the horrendous performance against Dallas, because everyone had a horrendous performance against Dallas. Aside from that game however, Tyreke has been playing like a star, much more explosive and also more comfortable with his jumper. He still probably shoots it too much for how often it goes in, but there has been a definite improvement in his shot. He also is playing much better in transition, finding teammates on fastbreaks regularly, which has been a bugaboo with him. His defense has also been excellent. There have been a lot of promising signs from Tyreke ever since Keith Smart took over, and I hope this signals genuine improvement and not just a flash in the pan.
Image / GIF of the Week:
on our way to becoming a RUNNING team
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Comment of the Week: (In response to me saying Dragic is a more athletic Beno)
Snails are more athletic rocks
by HeuristicLineup on Jan 13, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions 10 recs
FanPost of the Week:
It's the "offense", not the talent. Now in Pictures. - By SPTSJUNKIE (A great look at how poor the Kings offense is)
Highlight of the Week:
Caption Contest:
Last Week's Winner: LaPrimeraLives
"Throw out your hands! Stick out your tush! Hands on your hips, Give them a push!You'll be surprised You're doing the French Mistake! VOILA!! "
Last Week's Runner-Up: Perezident of the Bahamas
Paul....what are you doing with that knife? I SWEAR, I found out the same time you did
This Week's Picture:
A reminder of the rules for the Caption Contest. Leave your caption in the comments below, and the most rec'd (to recommend a comment, hit action, then rec) caption wins.
This week's caption contest winner gets to start at Small Forward.
Question of the Week:
Should Keith Smart make a rotational change? He's been keeping the same lineup since taking over and I feel it's time to start bring Salmons off the bench and start Donté or Francisco. I also think that Isaiah deserves to be the team's third guard over Jimmer at this point, until Jimmer does something to earn more minutes. I would also play JT ahead of J.J. Hickson since Jason is more efficient, a better defender, and a better passer.
And Nostradumbass Prediction for Next Week:
@ Minnesota 1/16 W (Minnesota is a young and exciting team with a good coach. I'm hoping the Kings have some oomph in their step after being just embarrassed in Dallas.)
v. Indiana 1/18 W (Indiana has been playing well, but we've also been playing well at home and I think we can take this one before heading back out on the road.)
@ San Antonio 1/20 L (San Antonio is still a great team, with more youth than you would think. I just hope this doesn't get ugly.)
@ Memphis 1/21 L (This game will be more competitive than the last one in Memphis, but I fear the same result)
Nostradumbass Record for the Season: 10-3
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Hawes: (off-camera) Hey, where did I put my giant invisible pizza? Oh dammit Francisco!
(You’re asking for it with this photo.)
by Tom Ziller on Jan 15, 2012 8:08 AM PST reply actions 5 recs
Yeah, looks like most people have gone with the lowest common denominator here
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The current funk is partly due to the unavoidable realization that this team still has much further to go before we can agree they are an up- and- coming young team
Rotations or other kick starters are Westphalian at best and worst.
As for the caption – I am with Ziller, you are asking for it with this one. I’m going to pass.
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Oh Dios mio, Elton! That’s not how you do the flamenco.
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by DTG13 on Jan 15, 2012 8:23 AM PST via Android app reply actions
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“OH-EM-GEE! Have you theen the balls on Elton Brand?!?”
Also:

Rocks are free, and slingshots easily stolen. And for a limited time, every third person who follows me on Twitter (andy_sims) gets a free ice cream cone.
Which I will eat.
by andy sims on Jan 15, 2012 8:32 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
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Cisco: “Hercules! Hercules!!!” claps
Elton Brand: “…”
by VenomySnicket on Jan 15, 2012 8:52 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
A Kings Fan
knows what 17 win seasons and 30 point losses feel like, but that airball-fest last night really really hurt. I couldn´t even be mad at these condescending Maverick announcers, because everything they said was actually true.
As for Petrie: 10 years ago I had pretty goodish grades at school, but that won´t do me any good if I suck at my job today and can´t seem to get any evaluation right. How many years after assembling that great team that made me become a fan will it actually matter how terrible the current team is? I can´t wait to find out.
Thanks for another great write-up Aykis, here´s to hoping next week will be bearable.
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Cisco: “OOOOOOOhh. Almost caught that one.”
Brand: “You wish.”
by rubenho on Jan 15, 2012 9:03 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Barf
It is becoming very difficult to watch this team. Pride and an occasional “I give a shit” would help this long suffering Kings fan try to stomach this"Major League" drama continuing for the rest of the year. If I did my job like I saw in last nights piss poor effort, I would not only be fired, I would be blacklisted. No one on this team seems to care that we are on the brink. Something has got to give.
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Francisco, how the hell did you get in the game!?
“Well, I grabbed Smart by the ass like this, and then….”
The rest was inaudible.
The endless pounding.
A hole, blacker than despair.
John Salmons is back.
by twasserm on Jun 23, 2011
by Dirkula on Jan 15, 2012 9:39 AM PST reply actions 5 recs
everyone was already thinking this, why did you have to say it?
by VenomySnicket on Jan 15, 2012 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
Because I have the maturity of a 14 year old!
The endless pounding.
A hole, blacker than despair.
John Salmons is back.
by twasserm on Jun 23, 2011
by Dirkula on Jan 15, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
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“pass me the ball…pass me the ball….why isn’t anybody passing me the freaking ball?”
35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.
by ElRonToro on Jan 15, 2012 9:46 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Caption:
Cisco: “WHO’S GOT IT BETTER THAN US!?”
Brand, under his breath: “everyone…”
Question: I agree with Aykis; IT deserves the 3rd guard minutes at this point. I’d like to see the team get Jimmer some open looks with him playing off the ball using some double screens or something like that, but that seems like a lot to ask for at this point.
by Crocoduck on Jan 15, 2012 9:47 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
It’s like we drafted Jimmer expecting points to magically appear on the scoreboard. We have to run plays for him? Who’da thunk?
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by caseycheesecake on Jan 15, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Also
He shot about 20-30 shots a game in college so hard for him to score when he only takes (whether a play is there for him or not) about 4 shots a game.
by larry_funderburke on Jan 15, 2012 6:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Well, at least Treke has good stats most nights.
by ExPFCWintergreen on Jan 15, 2012 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
Unfortunately stats, by themselves, don't win games...
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Give Jimmer the Minutes
So I want you to learn a lesson about a player named Wesley Matthews. Matthews was amazing, the organization loved him, he was a non-pick walk on, kind of like a second round draft pick. The Jazz invested in making him a star, because kid could play. Once the season was over he was signed to a big contract that The Jazz couldn’t match. I love Isaiah, dude can play and should get some burn, but for the long turn of the organization you are stuck with Jimmer and his contract for a few years, and if he does blossom (which I think he will once you have a team that learns how to play Basketball, by sharing the ball and trusting each other, “they are getting better, so I am not trying to be cynical, but they are still playing ugly basketball a lot of the time, ISO plays, not ball movement etc.”) Look anyone who watches the game will see that The Jimmer get’s frozen out, I think he is earning trust by passing and playing hard, but they seem to not respond to him as well as other players, it is evident just watch the game. O.k. so long story short, it is worth it to invest time in The Jimmer, if he gets better you have a great asset you can trade, or keep. With Isaiah if he develops into an awesome player you will just lose him, so try to win games, give Isaiah Thomas some burn, but you have to give your Rooks and high draft picks time to shine they are the only asset you have some good control over as an organization. People overlook this business side of things so much, because we want to win now.
by pickupballer on Jan 16, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
I think Jimmer's freezing himself out, more than being froze out
I still think Jimmer’s going to be a fine player down the road, but he’s also the rare player that played four years of college ball. One of the “tangibles” about having him on the team was his confidence and leadership abilities. There were going to be issues transitioning him to more of a ballhandler, sure…but what he was supposed to give us out of the gate is missing at this point.
And it’s up to him to show glimpses of those positives.
Today’s “Did you know?”:
- Jimmer Fredette is 5th in minutes played among all rookies, and one minute out of the 4th position. And Ricky Rubio’s included in that list ahead of him.
He’s getting plenty of minutes. The team IS investing in him.
"I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!" - Michael Scott
Fun facts
With team options, the Kings could have Thomas under contract for the next three years – it’s the choice of the team to pick up these options, and if they do, Thomas cannot go out to bid a la Matthews. Also, the two option years after this year are both for under $1m per.
Fredette is under guaranteed contract for the next two years at a little better than $2m per – not exactly a King’s ransom. His third year is a team option at under $2.5m, with the following year being a tad over $3m before his 5th year, which carries a $4.2m qualifying offer.
To recap, contract issues are not really germane to the conversation of minutes for Jimmer or Isaiah, as the team has both guys locked up yet little invested.
May the best man win!
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Matthews was amazing, the organization loved him, he was a non-pick walk on, kind of like a second round draft pick. The Jazz invested in making him a star, because kid could play. Once the season was over he was signed to a big contract that The Jazz couldn’t match.
1. Pretty sure it’s in no way close to the same contract situation as Isaiah.
2. Pretty sure if Isaiah ended up with the same value of Wesley Mathews, although at the point position, that would be one of those “Holy shit I love this” good problems.
Look anyone who watches the game will see that The Jimmer get’s frozen out
Anyone who has watched the games knows that Jimmer and Isaiah had the ball in their hands roughly the same amount of time when on the court. That is until Isaiah killed it in Toronto. (technically I think pretty much everyone is getting froze out in this offense)
With Isaiah if he develops into an awesome player you will just lose him
This is true so long as you completely ignore reality and live in a fantasy world.
by wallywagon11 on Jan 16, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
Yes, Smart should make some changes.
JJ is not the Defensive help that Chuck was, but he is just as inept offensively. We’re already seeing Donte getting more minutes at the 4, and he’s been somewhat successful. It may cost us a couple of rebounds, but I would expect that Donte’s ability to shot from outside would clear some space in the paint.
It wouldn’t be my first choice but I can see Donte starting at the 4 with DeMarcus. That would give us two energy guys coming off the bench.
Garcia looked like he’s lost more than a step when Carter blew by him, but right now he may be our best SF choice. I don’t want to lose Salmons altogether, so I’d move him back to the 2.
Tyreke just stands around when he doesn’t have the ball, and that happens a lot when he starts with Thornton. Thornton needs to come off the bench.
Because his improved offense, JT needs more PT but not as a starter because he’s our main backup for foul troubled Cuz. My big rotation in order are; Cuz & Donte, JT first big off bench and then JJ. I’d start Francisco at the 3 and Tyreke and Salmons in the backcourt. It wouldn’t be our best offensive team but it would be our best Defensive team.
I’d bring Thornton in for Salmons early, and IT in for Tyreke at the end of the quarter. I’m not concerned about their height because they both play bigger than their size. I’d use Tyreke, Salmons and Donte to backup the 3. And, I’d use Jimmer sparingly at the one while I work on getting the others to work with him to get open and create passing lanes. He’s a fine talent but there’s no reason to throw him into this mess before he’s ready.
But, even more important than a rotation change, we need weak-side player movement and we need to picks and screens for players without the ball to free them up. Especially for our bigs in the paint. Smart has already run those type of plays at the start of games and now we need to implement them more often in the game.
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by HighTops on Jan 15, 2012 10:00 AM PST reply actions 9 recs
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Because someone has to say it:
“Invisible fellatio”
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Cisco: Hey Elton you think you have ball skills. But can you do this? Three at a time baby!!!
Brand: Nah Man You win.
by tonyfrmnatomas on Jan 15, 2012 10:20 AM PST reply actions
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“Things go well and I might be showing them my O face….O for offense Elton, O for offense.”
Am I wrong? Am I wrong?
by ItsALeagueGame on Jan 15, 2012 10:37 AM PST reply actions
Anyone Got
Some of MJ’s Special Stuff for these guys?
Claremont Mckenna College
Forbes #3 in the West, #12 in the Nation
"Crescit cum comercio civicas"
Throw it around the back so it look fly when I pass//
Just to avoid the block go high off the glass//
I'm killing them out there they gon' have to bring caskets//
This all I hear after the baskets *swoosh*//
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Cisco decides to pursue a career in porn, meaning basketball so ugly it smells like stinky fish and is ruled porn by the supreme court. Justice Roberts comments that it was so disgusting he couldn’t finish watching.
Answer to the question of the week...
I think you need to get Salmons off the bench, and demote Jimmer a bit because they are slumping. Nothing permanent, just to give them some incentive to get their game back. Donte and IT are playing far better at this point than them, and deserve to move up in the rotation.
I would go big and start DMC, JJ, Donte, Tyreke, Thornton. Have JT come in as 3rd big, and IT come in as 3rd guard. Against Minnesota, I think Donte will match up well against Derrick Williams, and IT will match up well against Rubio, and we steal one in Minnesota to get some momentum going home against Indiana.
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Answer
Yes, change the recipe before we all vomit. Start IT, MT, Evans, JT, and Cuz. Rotate Jimmer with IT, Evans, and MT. Rotate Hickson, with the bigs. Sprinkle with Donte and Garcia to taste. Never use old fish or other outlawed ingredients which may result in criminal charges and require amnesty.
wait...
You havent vomited yet?
Sanka....you dead? Ya Man
by prowseinthehouse on Jan 15, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
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*Harmonica music
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Jan 15, 2012 12:23 PM PST reply actions
Trying to keep it clean.
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Jan 16, 2012 7:59 AM PST up reply actions
Time
Ok Coach, F*** draft position. F*** salary. Time to start:
I.T.
Reke
Anyone but salmon, guess you overpay for AK.
JT
DMC
Coach, time to grow apair!!! If not, I screaming conspiracy!!!!!! Malfoofs!!!!!
PUHD!
ksh
by kendogfunky on Jan 15, 2012 12:25 PM PST via mobile reply actions
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Cisco spots up at the three point line and prepares for a pass. Unfortunately he’s on defense, which he realizes the split second after the ball goes flying by him to the wide open Elton Brand. He didn’t make the realization because the pass went to a Sixer, he made the realization when someone made a pass at all.
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Francisco Garcia doing his Mikki Moore impression in Opera format
“LOOOOOObster claws! I have lOOOOOOObster claws!”
by wallywagon11 on Jan 15, 2012 12:37 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Total aside
but does it make me a girl if everytime I think of “opera voice” singing it is in Gaston’s voice from Disney’s Beauty and the Best?
Actually, don’t answer that.
by wallywagon11 on Jan 15, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
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If we let them score 10 more points, we can use our tickets to get tacos THIS big!
(trying to keep it PG)
by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 15, 2012 12:40 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
When I saw the score of the Mavericks game yesterday
I thought, “Hey, at least we stopped them from getting free food for once”.
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Ha. I thought opposing teams were going to start advertising Kings games as
Dinner and a Basketballish Game
by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 15, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Back in bad old days
I used to say I was going to go watch the Kings play a professional basketball team. It looks like it’s past time to drag that phrase out of the dust bin.
"Live Long and Prosper." - Spock
the whole dine downtown value thing was a waaaaay better idea
by wallywagon11 on Jan 15, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Ya, I skipped the game because Lewis Black was in town.
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Hey Salmons, you’re getting closer, only missed it by this much!
by Bill2 on Jan 15, 2012 12:49 PM PST reply actions 17 recs
This next week might really really suck
I hope I have the good sense to avoid the game threads. Particularly the Twolves and Spurs games (Rubio and Kawhi references)
I think I might avoid all together
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by raiderking21 on Jan 15, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
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I think that the current situation under our rim provides no good hopes for our winning chances. C’est la vie.
The rebuilding effort and Question of the Week
In regards to the rebuilding effort, it’s not going to be smooth sailing and hopefully opportunities for adjustment can be made. For example, Jeff Green was a high draft pick for OKC but no longer a part of their team. It’s still a work in progress. Quincy Miller did pretty good yesterday.
In regards to Question of the Week, I agree that Isaiah should be ahead of Jimmer in most situations. My starting five is Boogie, JT, Donte, Franciscio, and Reke. My first thought was putting out a lineup that won’t get blown out at the beginning of games. I remember a chart that Ziller posted a while back that had Boogie and JT being the best duo for offensive rebounds. If the team is going to start out cold, I think it’s best to put out the best offensive rebounding duo. I’d rather see the game competitive/close and worry about foul trouble at the 5, than watch a team with fouls to spare but getting blown out. Adding Donte, Francisco, and Reke, it’s not the best offensive team, but brings offensive rebounding, length, defense, and spacing.
by getPGwithbounce on Jan 15, 2012 1:41 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Late in the 4th quarter, Francisco Garcia notices the scoreboard
by paleface on Jan 15, 2012 1:53 PM PST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
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So get up, get, get get down
911 is a joke in yo town
Get up, get, get, get down
Late 911 wears the late crown
Mitch Richmond - All-Time leader in shots taken with a toe on the three point line. True Story...You can look it up.
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Throw it IN the basket. You know, the basket: about so big…looks like this.
by polotown on Jan 15, 2012 1:59 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
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“WHAT WAS THAT!!!!!?!?”
“…that was an ‘assist’ Francisco…”
“TEAMS CAN DO THAT?!?”
by paleface on Jan 15, 2012 2:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
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See. Everything he does on the court is invisible.
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Oh my God Becky look at her butt
Mirror on the wall
Here we are again.
by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 15, 2012 2:38 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
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“Hey guys this past summer, I caught a salmon this big, but thanks to the new fish and game regulations I was able to amnesty back into the wild. Set if free fellas, set it free.”
by adamsite on Jan 15, 2012 2:47 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
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Francisco Garcia, forgetting the proper hand signal to call the team’s new “Motorboat” play, improvises.
"If you're going to lead the orchestra, you have to turn your back on the audience." -Geoff Petrie
by AnotherStupidSN on Jan 15, 2012 2:56 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
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Did you guys see how big Brand’s contract is? You what they say about the size of a man’s contract don’t ya? His children will be well endowed. Man how I wish I had a contract like that right here in front of my face. This is the face I would make! Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh…..money shot.
Caption (for Family Guy fans):
“Dog, I’m smoking. Hey, dog. Dog. DOG! Look at me. Look at me…I’m smoking.”
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Garcia – “Oh my god, I just crapped out a basketball !!”
Brand – “Ewww”
by DiegoKing on Jan 15, 2012 5:03 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Off topic but are you an eagles fan?
by 2002HauntsME4ever on Jan 15, 2012 5:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Me too saw Diego in a username on BGN nation thought iit seemed familiar btw r u from San Diego too?
by 2002HauntsME4ever on Jan 15, 2012 8:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
This is hard to post as a Bears fan... but...

by HeuristicLineup on Jan 15, 2012 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
Makes sense
If Rodgers were really any good, he would catch all of those passes that his receivers drop. He should also be held responsible as the team leader for not spending enough time teaching the defense how to tackle.
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He sucked today just as bad as his wide outs and defense, overthrew, underthrew threw a pick that led to points etc etc..
I will give him a little credit though, he did lead his team in rushing yards and kept getting up after big hits, tough dude. I know it wasn’t his fault completely but he definitely didn’t help the cause.
Respectfully disagree
And I’m not going to draw this out on a Kings site. Simply, if his receivers do their job in the 1st half, the Packers probably have at least 10 more points at half, if not more. If the Packers simply tackle Bradshaw to end the 1st half, that’s 7 fewer points for the Giants. And the Packers fed the Giants offense with several other missed tackles.
Put another way, who on the Packers played better than Rodgers today? No, he wasn’t his best. But he was the best that they had, and by a pretty hefty margin, in my opinion.
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I believe that any QB in the NFL can appear to be lackluster if he is pressured throughout the entire game. That doesn’t mean he is a bum, just that, no matter how well someone can pass the ball, see the field of play, find receivers, etc., if there is an onslaught, that stuff doesn’t really matter that much
by ExPFCWintergreen on Jan 15, 2012 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
I honestly think the extra time off messed with the Packers offense that's all based on timing.
Anyhoo, I’ll shut up about fooseball now, sorry. :)
It's all relative. The Kings play well at home relative to their performance on the road.
This team is worse than their record indicates. They are one of 3 teams with a scoring margin of negative double digits. The Kings’ performance on the road has been downright pitiful like this season.
I don’t think our performance at home is anything to write home about either: ugly blowout to the Knicks and a fortunate comeback against the Bucks. Did the team need to trail by 21 to that team by halftime?
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At this point, I think us as kings fans we should just embrace our team losing so much. I sure have. I used to complain and just go crazy when I witness a blowout coming, now I don’t let it get to me. You just gotta go with the flow and always have hope that when we face a worse team next week we might win. Hopefully we destroy the twolves and rick adelman looks sad.
by CousinsEvansDUO on Jan 15, 2012 7:43 PM PST reply actions
I think us as kings fans we should just embrace our team losing so much.
this year for sure, with the strong draft class it’s a win-win situation. A loss is worth more than a win on the good things wheel of fortune right now.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 15, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
I for one never think it is good to embrace losing, even if it were the end of the year and the Kings were to find themselves at the bottom, a lack of will to play to win is toxic and deadly for a team, and it is difficult to ever come back around to a winning attitude.
by ExPFCWintergreen on Jan 15, 2012 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
I'm interested
as to why someone that lists himself on SBN as a Laker fan but has spent the majority of his time on the Warriors site now lists himself as a Kings fan.
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Skeptic doesn't have the same boundaries in terms of sports fandom as most
he’s not putting on an act (sorry just saying before we tar and feather him, I’ve known him for quite some time now)
by wallywagon11 on Jan 15, 2012 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
Basically I've seen this episode a few times
Big fan of California (plenty more and plenty of nice things about the Kings). And he’s been trolled for it before (notice the lack of an “L” at the end of the username and check your ban hammer).
by wallywagon11 on Jan 15, 2012 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
why someone that lists himself on SBN as a Laker fan but has spent the majority of his time on the Warriors site now lists himself as a Kings fan.
Good question. Actually my son lives in Sac and I live in the bay area so I got dual teamizenship.When I’m visiting Sac the logistics of going to a game at Arco are actually a lot easier than going to a game at Oracle when I’m home. My big problem is they don’t broadcast Kings games on TV over here so I can’t watch many. I joined Sactown royalty to follow the Cousins saga and found some interesting threads while looking around. I view it as a can’t lose situation, either the Kings or Dubs will get a great new player out of this draft, it’s just a matter of who manages their wins the best.
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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 15, 2012 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for the explanation, and thanks for taking the time to give it
I respect your takes, and this gives me an even better understanding of them.
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by caseycheesecake on Jan 16, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
How to build the Kings
The biggest problem is that this team is disorganized group of role players. Coach Smart needs to bring some structure to the team instead od constantly trying random groupings of players.
Core: Cousins, Evans, Thomas.
These are the players with strong all-around games. They should all start and all get a lot of minutes. Thomas is the controversial choice but I think it should be evident to anyone who has closely evaluated his play, that he has not only the best PG skills on the team, but that he will soon be one of the best PGs in the league. IT seems to have a special chemistry with Cousins and they should soon make for a dynamic combo. IT will get better — much, much better — the more he plays. It takes a bit for PGs to learn how to play in the NBA. Remember, his rookie education had no Las Vegas summer league, a very short traing camp, and almost no exhibition experience? It is remarkable that he has been able to adjust to the league the way he has given the circumstances.
All the other players, aside from Cuz, Reke and IT, are role and bench players and have to adjust their games to fit with the Core.
Starters: Cousins, Evans, Thomas, Thompson, Hickson
The most stable additional starters would be JT and Hayes, when he gets healthy in three weeks. Until then I would start Hickson (the Kings gave up their 1st round pick for him, along with Caspi, so they should try to make it work) with he understanding that his main role is rebounding and defense.
Thornton would be the main firepower off the bench. Smart has to let everyone else know in detail what his expectations of them are, including defense, and adjust their minutea according to how they are meeting expectations.
The Kings should start considering trading off some of their deadwood — Outlaw, Salmons, Green, Garcia, Honeycutt, etc. I hate to say it, but Jimmer will never be a star in this league, maybe not even a solid starter. If they can get from Utah something like what they gave up for Hickson, they should consider doing it. They shouldn’t let an unreasonable amount of hope or the inability to admit a mistake interfere with sound judgement.
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Some of what you suggest makes sense, but I disagree with designating IT as a core player at this point. It is difficult for me to imagine the team ever being able to play well TOGETHER as a unit, which suggests that they will never amount to much without wholesale changes. The lack of teamwork here is breathtaking.
by ExPFCWintergreen on Jan 15, 2012 9:33 PM PST up reply actions
Way to early
Too early to give up on Jimmer, but this team needs some changes. Before it is all done though, I really want to see Salmons benched, Tyreke moving to the 3, and Jimmer and IT mixed up for the Point.
by pickupballer on Jan 16, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
As far as the rotations go,
as bad as Salmons as been. And damn, he has been BAD.. I don’t think it’s quite time to pull him out of the starting lineup. I’d like to see his minutes reduce quite a bit (around 23-25~), and give them to Donte.
It is definitely, definitely too early to give up on Jimmer or even think about him as a bad pick. He’s played 13 games with no training camp and basically no practice in an incoherent offense. I am not worried about him at all.
However, Thomas has earned third guard minutes over Jimmer. I don’t think he’ll end up being the better player, but as of now we need a distributor, and Isaiah provides a nice spark off the bench.
I’m glad you’re on board with moving JT to the starting lineup, Aykis. I’m a big fan of JT, and he’s been the only somewhat consistent King all season. (even his awful FT shooting is consistent!) I was incredibly impressed his play at the end of last season and it seemed to have carried over. It’s just hard to fill the stat sheet in 16 minutes a game.
If I hadn't watched all of the games we lost I could be cautiously optimistic about the King's chances going forward while reading the Good section of the GB & U..........Unfortunately..........
I did watch almost all the games and at this point I debating whether to even watch the next game. I will just because I am a Kings fan and secondly I want to see Ricky in action.
Emotionally, I feel like the Kings I’m watching are the worst version ever. On the court they seem to be playing at the same level that the Wizards are which is pretty bad indeed considering we don’t even have André Blatche on the team.
I was thinking about this last night but I can’t recall either Reke or Cuz ever being in great shape. Their conditioning is sub par and not anywhere close to being able play a run and gun style for 48 minutes. The Houston game was winnable but the Kings ran themselves out of the game by the half and when they came back at the beginning of the 3rd they were out of juice.
I will say it again: Jimmer needs to go and log a bunch of minutes up in Reno. The D league is rapidly losing it’s stigma and Jimmer needs to acclimate himself to the pro game out of the spotlight. At this point he is afraid of his own shadow and so tentative that for all practical purposes he takes himself out of the game. He can’t handle NBA defense and when faced with a double team he practically will always turn the ball over. Every minute Jimmer spends on the court is causing his dwindling supply of confidence to be further diminish.
Nice post Aykis, the return of GB & UU is one of the few good things about this sad sack Kings season.
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Tough situation
You have a coach taking over after seven games with a lineup full of role players, few of whom are NBA starter material. Those who are are still learning the game.
Our small ball lineups seemed to have been the most effective. In terms of playing time, I’d lean heavy on Tyreke and Thornton, have Cousins and JT split the center minutes and limit the playing time of Hickson, Outlaw and Garcia.
I think both Jimmer and IT should be playing at least 20 minutes a game and possibly be splitting a third guard position. I’d play Salmons less and use him to back up Tyreke and Thornton for 20 minutes a game. I agree with giving Donte minutes at the 4, but would play the minutes there depending more on the matchups.
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How do you give Tyreke player of the week over Cousins?
DeMarcus was a beast this week. Tyreke improved, but Cousins was easily our best player on the floor every night except for the Dallas game, where we didn’t actually have one.
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by LeaguePassAddict on Jan 16, 2012 10:36 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
In honor of John Salmons,
we need to add a “Player of the Weak” category.
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by section214 on Jan 16, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Tyreke was far more consistent
DeMarcus had a few great games though.
If DeMarcus had found a way to stay on the court more (whether that’s related to his foul problems, conditioning, or illness), maybe I’d agree. But Tyreke averaged 10 more minutes per game during that stretch.
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