The Week's Asinine Trade Thread, January 23.

Thornton and Jimmer for DJ Augustin and a top ten protected first round pick.

Cisco and Greene for Mo Williams. They have 5 guys who are pgs or can play pg. Then trade Thornton somewhere, Mo will be a much better fit and Thornton is too good to not be getting minutes.

My best trade I’ve been discussing with friends would be:

Clippers: D12, Ryan Anderson

Magic: Blake Griffin, Jordan, Foye

Trade can’t take place until March 1st cause of Jordan’s new contract.

Clips aren’t getting Howard with the rest of their roster. It would be tough for them to part with Blake after he put them back on the map, but how often do you get to acquire two superstars in their prime? With Howard, the Clips D gets much, much better and their O is just as deadly. This also keeps Lakers from getting Howard for Bynum + filler. Foye is expiring contract and just filler to make the salaries match.

For the Magic, this is a no brainer. No one is beating this deal.

How about a bold move?

I think the wiz just want to dump him at this point.

Fish and a 2nd for Blatche. Flip likes his 3 guard lineups.

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for Garcia, Hickson, Whiteside and our 2012 Lottery Pick. [If no lottery pick (selection goes to Cleveland), then Boston receives both of Sacramento’s 2013 picks, first and second round selections.]

Trade Link

New Depth Chart
1 – Evans/Thomas
2 – Thornton/Fredette
3 – Pierce/Salmons/Outlaw/Honeycutt
4 – Thompson/Greene
5 – Cousins/Hayes

Kings need a solution at SF, a permanent one.

Kings trade Marcus Thornton, Donté Greene and Jason Thompson to Indiana for Danny Granger and Tyler Hansbrough

For Sacramento, you give up a potential young scoring dynamo in Thornton to lock up a proven star at the Small Forward position. Greene would give the Pacers additional depth there, and Thompson is probably better than Hansbrough at this point, and the Kings and Pacers would just be swapping third bigs. For Indiana, this gives them a younger replacement for Granger as well as moves Paul George to the SF spot.

KG for Thorton/JT/Cisco

I would only do this if Garnett signs and extension with us. He is the perfect ying to Cousins yang. His intensity would be contagious on our team and it would be nice to see some of our players work out with him in the off season to get in better shape.

Mo Williams for JT/Cisco

Clips need another big, throw in Cisco to make the salaries work, maybee throw in a 3rd team if they don’t want Cisco. We get a PG who can pass and shoot.

Give Evans to a bottom feeder, force them to take Salmons’ contract. Probably would have to take back an expiring contract in return.

Then use the money saved on Evans coming extention to up the offer on AK to 2 years, 23 million.

Prime candidates are Phoenix, New Orleans (their own pick or the Wolves pick), Charlotte, Milwaukee, Toronto

Ok people These are the guys who cant be traded until after 03/01/2012 –
Thornton
Hayes
Outlaw

I know people wanna give up on Thornton, but you cant do so for another 1.5 months..

My idea John Salmons for Noc!…Then trade after 03/01 Thornton and Hayes for Dalembert and Kmart! We can go all Retro!

Ok yeah this is Asinine!

Utah is over loaded with 4’s and needs a SG. We would get DMC’s running mate for the future.

Then…

Mo Williams for JT/Cisco

Clips need another big, throw in Cisco to make the salaries work, maybee throw in a 3rd team if they don’t want Cisco. We get a PG who can pass and shoot.

Then…

We offer Nicholas Batum a big contract that POR can’t match in the off season

Mo Williams PER 21.37
Nicholas Batum PER 16.21
Tyreke Evans PER 16.44
Paul Millsap PER 26.7
DMC PER 20.38

Bench:
IT PER 13.01
Jimmer PER 9.52
FA SF
Hayes PER 12.02
Whiteside

Ok here we go – We may need to throw in a 2nd round pick or two, and I think by now we know we are gonna be in lottery- Notice the trade can be done before March 1st (no 2011 FA’s invovled)

To Jazz – Garcia, Fredette
To Kings – Favors, Miles

To Clippers – Salmons and Hickson,
To Kings – Mo Williams

Starting lineup > Bench

Mo Williams > Isaiah Thomas
Tyreke Evans > Marcus Thornton
C.J. Miles > Donte Greene
Hayes > Favors
DMC > JT

Deep Bench Outlaw, Honeycutt and Whiteside

Trade Salmons and Hickson, I’ll thrown in Donte to boot, to the Clippers for Mo Williams and Ryan Gomes.

Sign Wilson Chandler to our remaining cap space.

Treat the rest of the season as training camp for next year.

Roster going forward:

C: Cousins, Thompson, Whitside
PF: Hayes, Gomes, Outlaw
SF: Chandler, Garcia, Honeycutt
SG: Evans, Thornton
PG: Mo, Jimmer, Isaiah

Is Jerebko more of a SF or more of a PF? It sure seems to me that they need some size.

Since this is an asinine trade thread, I’m just going to throw out some ideas that are completely unrealistic and benefit us.

Note: I am completely aware that these trades have no chance of happening, but I would love them anyways.

Trade 1:

Pacers Trade:
F Danny Granger
F Tyler Hansborough

Kings Trade:
G Marcus Thornton
G/F John Salmons
First Round pick this year or next (provided we are eliminated from playoff contention before the trade deadline)

Why the Kings do it:
Kings lose Salmons’ contract, and give up a great scorer in Thornton for a great SF and a serviceable big man in Hansborough.

Why the Pacers do it:
I have no idea. But maybe we catch them on a day that they have no idea what they are doing. Besides they get to move George to the 3, Salmons can start at 2, and they can bring Thornton as a 6th man with Hill.

Trade 2:

Hawks Trade:
G Kirk Hinrich
G/F Tracy McGrady

Kings Trade:
F J.J. Hickson
G/F Francisco Garcia

Why Kings do it:
They get a starting caliber PG Kirk Hinrich and Tracy McGrady off the bench, while giving up Garcia’s contract and a promising big.

Why Hawks do it:
Again, I have no idea. They would be left with only Jannero Pargo as their main backup, and Teague as the starter, and Willie Green as the main wingman. But they do get a decent backup G/F in Garcia and a nice promising F in Hickson while Horford recovers.

Kings Lineup:
G Kirk Hinrich
G Tyreke Evans
F Danny Granger
F Jason Thompson
C Demarcus Cousins

Bench:
G/F Tracy McGrady
G Isaiah Thomas OR G Jimmer Fredette
F Donte Greene
F Tyler Hansbrough
F/C Chuck Hayes

Deep Bench:
C Hassan Whiteside
F Tyler Honeycutt
G Isaiah Thomas OR G Jimmer Fredette
F Travis Outlaw

Again, I am aware of the fact that these are unrealistic trade ideas. But, you gotta admit, this would be a great team, right?

-Trade Salmons and 2013 2nd round draft pick to the Phoenix Suns for Jared Dudley and Hakim Warrick (waive Warrick after)
-Trade JJ Hickson to the Orlando Magic for Ryan Anderson (yes i’m aware in reality we’ll likely have to throw another piece in there)
-Sign Joel Pryzbilla to a one-year minimum salary contract with a 2nd year player option
-Waive Travis Outlaw

Don’t know how much money cap space that’ll take to work…

What team says no first?

Tyreke Evans/John Salmons/JJ Hickson

for

Lou Williams/Andre Iguodala

Sacramento sends
Evans and Salmons to Toronto
JJ Hickson to Washington

Toronto sends
Demar Demorzan to Washington

Washington sends
Javale Mcgee and Rashard Lewis to Sac

Kings have a great young front court to build around
Cousins and McGee with JT/Hayes on the bench
Jimmer/Thornton/IT finish the year at guards
Lewis/Greene/Honeycutt finish out the year at the 3

To New Orleans: Tyreke Evans, Donte Greene, A.J. Price
To Indiana: Eric Gordon, Jason Thompson
To Sacramento: Danny Granger, Jarrett Jack

New Orleans failed to sign Gordon to an extension and he’ll be a restricted FA this off-season. The Pacers could be confident in matching and retaining Gordon because 1) Indianpolis is Gordon’s hometown and 2) they would no longer have to pay Granger, $27M over the next two seasons. Also, as Aykis mentioned above, this would allow the Pacers to play Paul George at the 3. Jack is averaging over 7 assists/game (career-high), is in the prime of his career and is only under contract through next season. Granger would be the first competent SF the Kings have had in years and a solid mentor for Honeycutt.

It would essentially be a three-team deal, but could be accomplished in two separate transactions: First Trade Link and Second Trade Link.

New Kings Depth Chart:
1 – Jack /Fredette/Thomas
2 – Thornton/Salmons (Amnesty)/Garcia
3 – Granger/Honeycutt/Outlaw
4 – Hayes/Hickson
5 – Cousins/Whiteside

Kings Trade —> Memphis’ preference of JJ/JT, Donte/Garcia/Salmons’, Jimmer/IT (only combo that wouldn’t work financiallywas JJ/JT with Donte and IT)

Grizz Trade —> Rudy Gay

It’s late at night, so remind me why this doesn’t work.

Trade Link

To TOR: Tyreke Evans, J.J. Hickson
To SAC: Jose Calderon, Ed Davis, 2012 Lottery Pick (TOR)

A bit asinine, perhaps. I would do this even if the Raptors wanted JT instead of Hickson. I may consider Barbosa in place of Calderon, but I’d prefer the Spaniard. The Kings would get an unselfish point guard, a solid PF prospect to put next to Cousins AND probably have TWO top ten (five?) selections in this year’s draft.

New Kings Depth Chart:
1 – Calderon/Thomas
2 – Thornton/Fredette/Garcia
3 – Salmons/Greene/Honeycutt/Outlaw
4 – Hayes/Davis
5 – Cousins/Thompson/Whiteside

Thompson
Hickson
Greene
To Portland for:
Batum
Camby

Honest opinions – Who would say no first, and what we need to do to make it work

Kings , Trailblazers and Jazz

Trailblazers get Hickson, Whiteside
Jazz get Salmons and Jimmer
Kings get Devin Harris and Alex Burks from Jazz, Batum and Chris Johnson from TB

There also might need to be some money/picks thrown in here or there, but I think it would be a solid trade for all parties involved (That and you can tell Salmons and Outlaw are both not happy about being here)

Tyreke/Salmons/JT for Paul Millsap/Devin Harris/Alec Burks. We get an absolute stud at pf, a point guard who used to be good and maybe better in another situation (bad player with bad contract for a position of need in exhchange for a bad player with bad contract in Salmons) and a rookie in Burks who shows promise, reminds me of a less ball dominant, better shooting, less gifted Evans. Jazz get some guys who can drive in the paint, a guy in Evans who shows star potential and may get there 1 day, cap relief, more time for their young bigs to grow. What y’all think?

Sometimes I think they should be able to combine their talent and make one decent team. It really hurts to be a fan of these two teams sometimes.

Trade 1: Orlando/Sac

DMC/Jimmer/Garcia
for
Howard & Nelson.

Trade 2: Trade Reke and 1st rounder to Boston for Paul Pierce.

Leave us with a starting five of:
1- J. Nelson
2- Thornton
3- Pierce
4- Hayes
5- Howard

Lets do it. haha

We sign Wilson Chandler as a free agent.

We then trade NO for Kamen sending John Salmons and Hickson.

New line-up
Tyreke, Thorton, Chandler, Hayes, Cousins

Bench Players, Kamen, JT, Jimmer, IT, Greene

Players that don’t see the floor, Honeycutt, Whiteside, Garcia, Outlaw

While I agree no one would take Salmons, why not fantasize;

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=77bnhdu

Kings get;
Iggy
Calderon

Raptors get;
Salmons
Hickson

Sixers get;
Garcia
Derozan

Adding someone that can actually play the 3 would be beneficial to this roster.

Tyreke Evans and John Salmons for Andre Iguodala

Marcus Thornton for Jose Calderon

Francisco Garcia and J.J. Hickson for Boris Diaw

Cousins – C
Diaw – PF
SF – Iguodala
SG – Fredette
PG – Calderon

If you don’t like that team, you don’t like NBA basketball.

Sacramento – Hedo
Orlando – Bynum and JJ Hickson
Lakers – Howard

If Howard is going to walk they might as well get a couple young bigs our of the deal. They’d also be able to get rid of Hedo’s big contract giving them so flexability going forward.

Sacramento would be taking about a big contract with Hedo, but that would give the Kings a legit SF and his contract would be up by the time they need to start locking up Reke and DMC. Plus it’s Hedo! Don’t think the Kings will resign JJ at the end of the year anyways.

Lakers get Howard.

He’s shot over .400 from the 3 the last 4 years and is at .448 this season with almost 5 boards and 5 assists a game. What’s your argument he’s below average player?

The Kings could absorb his fat ass contact wihout any damage to their long term goals of keeping Reke and DMC. I’d prefer going after a FA SF this offseason, but they’d better be prepared to overpay.

Boston gets
John Salmons
JJ Hickson
Jimmer ( let all those Bostonians fall in love with the great white hype)

Sacramento get
Paul Pierce

Nets get
Jimmer (let him hang out with some rappers to perfect his Jimmer)
John Salmons

Sacramento gets
Anthony Morrow (finally somebody who can shoot the 3 with consistency)
J. Farmar

Lakers get: JT, Thorton, Donte (or Garcia)
Kings get: Pau Gasol

Why the Kings do it: We have 3 PF’s on our team, but none of them are even close to as good as a pairing as DMC would be with Pau. We would have Chuckwagon be our 3rd big now, which would be his perfect spot. With IT and Jimmer playing better it makes Thorton expendable, especially if we are still looking for Tyrekes back court partner of the future.

Why the Lakers do it: They are hovering around the .500 mark and with Kobe and Bynum taking control now, Pau looks lost on their team. He is a very underused star right now. They need some more scoring in the backcourt, which Thorton would provide. Thompson would then slide in next to Bynum.

and Kings didn’t even entertain it. Wonder who it was.

PG: Lawson(PG)/ Jimmer(PG,SG)/ IT(PG)
SG: Tyreke(PG,SG)/ Thorton(SG)
SF: Gallinari(SF,PF)/ Greene(SG,SF,PF), Honeycutt(SF)
PF:Cousin(PF,C)/
C: Hayes(PF,C)/ JT(PF,C)

Pick up- Batum(SF)
Give Denver: Garcia, Salmons, JJ, 1st , and whitside,
Trade: Thorton and 2nd rounder for Taj Gibson(F)

Memphis Grizzles Receive:
G Tyreke Evans (from SAC), F Michael Beasley (from MINN), G Wayne Ellington (from MINN)

Sacramento Receives:
SF Rudy Gay (from MEM)

Minnesota TWolves Receive:
G O.J. Mayo (from MEM) and C/F Jason Thompson (from SAC)

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7ytm9go

GAME OVER!