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How do we turn this thing around? Part 1

I believe the most important part of turning a franchise around is correctly assessing the talent you currently have. When looking at our Kings, I think there is room for guarded optimism as we have a number of solid pieces. I really believe the problem is the roster, as it's currently constructed, doesn't fit together, pieces don't compliment one another, or players are playing out of position, and the end result, unfortunately, can be grotesque. This leads people to overreact, and the hue and cry to blow the whole thing up has gotten louder and louder by the day; however, I don't think we need a complete overhaul.

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Just because our roster doesn't currently work together, doesn't mean that it can't perform at a high level with a few minor changes. The point I am trying to make is that while the current product on the floor isn't good, it doesn't mean that the team is totally devoid of talent. I believe we have several good, young pieces, but they simply aren't complementary. And, if we get a top pick in the draft this year, our current dysfunction may work to our benefit (as teams that work well together with only marginal talent are doomed to a quick exit in the first round of the playoffs with no hopes of ever really going any further).

So the big questions are as follows: What do we have?; What do we need?; How do we make the changes that need to be made?

Here's what I see that we have:

1. DeMarcus Cousins--Potential all-star big. He has improved greatly this year. His conditioning is better. He seems to be staying on the floor longer, and he also seems to be figuring out what he can and cannot do offensively, which is the trick to limiting silly turnovers. He is what every struggling team needs: a talented big that can rebound and score down low. He still needs to develop a few more go-to moves in the post (i.e., a half hook to counter the baseline spin), but he has made tremendous strides this year and is a great building block. Lastly, I think he has matured as well on the court (despite the weird spat with Westphal) as I am seeing much less of the pissing and moaning after a foul is called.

2. Tyreke Evans--Tyreke is a gifted player with significant flaws. By this I mean, he is an elite level talent in some respects (i.e., his driving ability and on-ball defense), yet he has significant deficiencies in other areas (i.e., D-League outside shot, and middle game). I believe he has made some strides this year as he really has become a more willing passer and distributor, but the league has figured him out. The book on Reke is to give him space and make him shoot the jumper, and if he drives, help defense needs to collapse on him. This has limited his ability to get to the rim (more so than his foot and ankle injuries). To be successful, he needs to work on the stop and pop jumper (ala Beno) and/or a soft running teardrop floater (think Tony Parker). These would enable him to use the drive (his greatest weapon) without needing to get all the way to the rim. Also, I believe he is playing out of position at the point and we should play him at the 2. He isn't a natural passing point and he rarely posts up smaller guards. Putting him at the two forces the other team to put a bigger and often slower player on him, which should only enhance his ability to get by his man.

3--Marcus Thorton--Marcus is great, but his what he is: a gunner. In my mind, he is a classic 6th man, the third guard in a really good 3 man rotation. He is the second coming of Bobby Jackson, and that's a good thing, but he isn't a starting 2. Much like Tyreke, I believe he is miscast in his current role, largely because we don't have enough talent. That being said, he is still miscast and should be leading the second unit, destroying the opposing teams' bench players. He is a Jason Terry type player, and we need to recognize that and play him accordingly.

4-Jason Thompson--Again, he is what, he is: a good active big. Good locker room guy. 3rd big in a 3 man rotation. Nice jumper for the pick and pop. Good rebounder. Can play the 4 or 5. Also, love the fact that he is finally starting to develop a go-to move down low (left handed hook? Who knew?). Asking him to do more is misguided in my opinion, but make no mistake about it, JT is a talented player that we absolutely should retain unless he gets a crazy offer from someone else. Every team in the NBA needs a player like this. He isn't flashy, but he is very important to have on those nights when DMC picks up two quick fouls in the first.

5--Jimmer Fredette--Not sure what we have here. He has shown flashes of brillance, but I have serious concerns about him. He isn't a point guard, but he isn't really big enough to guard shooting guards or quick enough to guard point guards, so he will always present a mismatch opportunity for other teams. I do believe he will figure things out on offense and become deadly from the 3. Also, I think he has a good head on his shoulders and that should help him become much more efficient on offense as he gets more experience, but his talents tend to overlap with Marcus Thorton, and he seems best suited for the 3rd guard in a 3 guard rotation.

6--JJ Hickson--Athletic big that isn't particularly skilled. This, quite frankly, looks to be a mistake on Petrie's part, and I hope he doesn't compound it by letting JT go to keep JJ. Most teams in the NBA have an athletic big that isn't particularly skilled. However, JJ is really young, so he might develop an improved jumper or a low post move, but he might not. Big crapshoot here, and I, for one, would not bet a lot of our cap space on JJ's development. He is, however, a good trade chip for the time being.

7--2012 Lottery pick--If we get lucky this year and end up in the top three picks, we will have another building block that will help the team immediately. Anthony Davis, a Kevin Garnett type, is my dream as his game--an athletic shotblocker with a nice face up game and crazy hops--would fit perfect next to DMC for the next decade. If we luck out here, our teams' prospects could change very, very quickly (e.g., Chicago and Derrick Rose).

That's what I believe we have. Next up, what do we need?

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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  1. Give Salmons the rest of Kobe’s burger from years ago,
  2. Rob him of his paycheck
  3. Give to Kirilenko
  4. Profit
  5. Win

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by Widowwolf on Jan 28, 2012 9:43 PM PST reply actions  

Be careful when you tell GP that he has to turn things around

It appears that he has done a complete 360.

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by section214 on Jan 28, 2012 9:51 PM PST reply actions  

does that mean all he has to do is another 180 and we'll be back in rebuild mode?

Nice post R – man. I’m starting to think the Reke has All Star caliber athletic skills and a D – league mind. I don’t think the Kings are going to get a lot better until the ball is taken out of Reke’s hand. BTW – I have no idea who that would be but a pg that can distribute and defend would fill the bill.

Along with his stop and pop, Beno had a sweet little tear drop shot that was money. I miss Beno. He’s getting less burn with the Bucks than Izzy is getting with the Kings. There must be something on our roster the Bucks would trade him for. Reke needs Beno back in the worst way, so does the GB & U.

JJ looks like he should be a baller but he’s struggling here and I’m not sure that he’s going to get any better than JT. JT has established his game and salary level and my guess is he isn’t going to be too expensive to keep. Let’s do it. Let’s do it regardless of what the blob says.

John Salmons clearly isn’t happy in Sacramento, I don’t want to see him play another minute this season. His stat’s are down in every category as are Cisco’s. If everything was equal which it’s not let’s just hope that Petrie convinces the Maloof’s to amnesty him as nobody is going to trade for him and have Cisco play his minutes instead. Inserting Cisco won’t improve things much but at least he’ll look like he enjoys playing here. Everybody’s always liked Cisco right?

I will never make a scathing comment regarding Jimmer but what the heck role is he supposed to play on this team? Thornton is an ideal 6th man so what does that make Jimmer? A back up 6th man? Does that make him a 12th man? If the Kings hadn’t drafted him in the lottery at the end of last season he wouldn’t be getting this much burn. I’m sure his shot will come together some day but he is not a starting point guard. He’s slow, he has a horrible handle, he can’t play defense, has anybody noticed?

Cuz. my man. I love me some Cuz. If Reke’s game was picking up as fast as Cousin’s is he would be in the running for an All Star berth. Despite his immaturity (which I can’t ignore totally) he is making progress at a rapid clip and the Kings are going to be his team before Reke figures it out. If it wasn’t for Cuz, Paul Westphal would still be coaching the Kings.

Keith Smart is looking to me and maybe only me as the perfect coach for this team going forward. He’s patient, has been in this situation before and is an excellent teacher who is establishing good relationships with his players. If he gets the boot at the end of the season I hope the FO looks at Mike Malone lead assistant with the dubs. I hope the Kings keep Smart.

Isaiah Thomas is an energy guy off the bench who can make things happen. One day he may realize that when he dribbles into defenders 6’-0" and taller he’s going to either turn the ball over or shoot a highly contested shot that’s going to be blocked. What he’s not at this stage of his development is a backup point guard. Sorry, he’s just not. I love him too.

Chuck Hayes looks like a solid (if short) addition to the frontcourt. Good defender, veteran presence on an affordable contract, a keeper.

2012 draft should get us a strong rookie. The way the season is progressing looks to me like a top 5 rookie or better is a real possibility. We suck and don’t look like we are making major strides towards improving and if that’s the case than this so – called strong draft is our friend.

Donté, Whiteside, Honeycutt, who knows? None of them cost much, some of them may get better, all appear tradeable, let’s see what we’ve got unless they can help to bring a better player back.

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by Bluejohn on Jan 29, 2012 1:05 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You almost created another fan post BJ

I’m starting to think the Reke has All Star caliber athletic skills and a D – league mind. I don’t think the Kings are going to get a lot better until the ball is taken out of Reke’s hand.

Probably not a surprise I disagree. I think Smart is installing an actual offense, which doesn’t rely on Evans pounding the ball. This is positive. However, I think Evans is bright enough to be a primary ball handler. It’s not as if LeBron, Kobe, Bird, Magic, Isaiah, etc. were all world class minds. Evans appears to be maturing under Smart and is still only 22. While he needs to keep learning the nuances of the game and develop a jumper and runner, I don’t think he’s our big problem.

There must be something on our roster the Bucks would trade him for. Reke needs Beno back in the worst way,

I’d rather let Jimmer mature into that role than pay and out-of-shape Beno for the next few seasons. We already have Evans, Jimmer, and Thornton. We’re going to pay 6+ mil a year for Beno to play 15 minutes a game?

Agree on JT. JJ mostly agree, but he could become better than JT. Keep in mind he’s 2-3 years younger. Remember 23 year old JT? JJ has decent form on his jumper. I think it smooths out eventually. We’ll see. I am pretty happy with JT as a backup 4/5 right now.

Also agree on Salmons. His attitude is poison. No way his stats should have fallen off this much. He’s not that old. He just looks like he doesn’t want to be here. I’d be happy for us to trade or more likely amnesty him.

I am liking Smart too. Too early to say anything defensive, but a lot of similarities with him and Brooks. Both took over for abrasive coaches with poor strategies for their rosters. both are more player’s coaches who worked well with a young teams. Hopefully Smart can emulate Brook’s success.

Agree on Thomas and Hayes.

For the draft, I think we finish with the 7th-9th worst record. Which means we’ll pick 11th :) Most likely we are in the range for a SG or PF (going by the Chad Ford’s rankings).

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 2:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Don't feel confident speaking about LeBron or IT

But Kobe, Magic, and Bird all strike me as having above-average NBA intellect. It remains to be seem whether Tyreke has the “right” mix of IQ and instinct to be a leader in the NBA.

One thing that can be said for sure is that Tyreke has carried the team on his back for late wins far less often than one would expect from a leader and star. This is precisely what made MT23 so appealing to the fan base late last season. You could hear the murmuring in Arco, at least up in my section.

I miss Big Mike and his Arco Thunder monologue.

by RJinFairOaks on Jan 29, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Kobe, Magic, and Bird all strike me as having above-average NBA intellect.

They developed great basketball IQ, but they never seemed on a higher level in terms of intellectual capacity.

I know I am willing to be more patient with Evans than some, but you are talking about murmurs in a muddled season for a 21 year old playing on a bad foot last season. Moreover a 21 year old who had the pressure in every late possession of getting the ball up top while his teammates stayed stationary in the corners and he had to create against NBA caliber defenses.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with the complicating circumstances

I have sat firmly on the fence on this general issue (“Tyreke’s upside vs. his likely NBA career outcome”) for the past three seasons, as the hype of 20-5-5 came and went. I really hope that I do not come off as chronically negative towards his past/present/future role and accomplishments.

That said, I do think that there is fair amount of (veiled) fanboy-ism towards Reke on this board. Coming off the ROY award, I can totally understand it…but we are 2.5 years down the road now. Sometimes all the highlight dunks and the ankle-breakers in the world can’t cover the lack of consistency and areas of glaring weakness that teams have come to understand and capitalize on over the past three seasons.

I optimistically remain on the fence about him and see all of the potential that is there to be exploited…if only he can work on those weaknesses, stay healthy and develop his NBA intellect. Performances like last night help me to see the glass as more full than empty, although there are always areas that allow for criticism.

Go Tyreke, and Go Kings.

I miss Big Mike and his Arco Thunder monologue.

by RJinFairOaks on Jan 29, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Understood

I think these message boards tend to vascillitate towards over optimistic and pessimistic.

I think Evans rookie year flashed his potential, but also set back his development as he was essentially given carte blanche to go nuts without learning how to play within a team concept at a NBA level. Memphis was similarly devoid of talent and Evans largely played the same way.

I think Evans understanding of when and how to distribute has been improving over the last year and a half (stop trying to age him ;) ). What I really would like to see from him is this:

1 – Improved mid range jumper – this shot helped Wade and Rose progress to the next level.

2 – Improve his set three point shot (may never be great, but good enough he can play in the flow of the offense and get open threes from Cousins & Jimmer).

3 – Better defensive focus. He has to tools to be a top notch defender. We see it in glimpses. Hopefully as we continue to run an offense that doesn’t rely on Evans creating everything, he has more energy for the defensive end.

4 – Keep improving his ball handling.

5 – Keep learning the nuances of the game that come with time and experience.

If he can do these, he still has plenty of time to emerge into a top end talent and one of the handful of players in the league you can win a championship with. If Cousins improves to this level as well, we’ll have something special here.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Succinct and accurate, IMO.

I miss Big Mike and his Arco Thunder monologue.

by RJinFairOaks on Jan 29, 2012 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

My thoughts

Agree w/R-Man’s thoughts on DMC, Reke, Marcus, JT & Jimmer. Not quite as pessimistic about JJ, though not optimistic either. Can’t speculate on the lottery pick until at least the Kings’ draft spot is known. However, no mention of Isaiah or Hayes? Imo, they’re solid rotation players, though not starter-caliber players.

by richie88 on Jan 29, 2012 2:46 AM PST reply actions  

Further thoughts

Rele seems to be best w/players like Beno & Isaiah, so similar but better players at PG would be best. The hydra at SF needs to be dismantled (w/the possible exception of Honeycutt) & replaced w/someone who’s starter-caliber. There also needs to be a 2nd starter-caliber big man.

by richie88 on Jan 29, 2012 2:49 AM PST up reply actions  

The Kings are not a team and Kieth Smart is not the correct coach. They have more problems than they have answers and will lose more fans as time goes on. I have watched the Kings since they arrived in Sacramento and find myself not wanting to go to games and when I watch them on the TV I fast forward thru more and more of the game. I didn’t like the trade of Beno or not resigning Dalenbert , getting Hays why for the locker room he can’t play as well as some of the players on the bench who hardly see any floor time. I still see the Maloofs saving money they say they are ready to spend money well why is Dalenbert wearing a Houston Uniform.

by TOCAN on Feb 3, 2012 7:15 PM PST reply actions  

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