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The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly: 2011-12 Week 5

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What I wouldn't do to have a SF of Gallinari's caliber on this team...

Three games, three losses. It has been a very disappointing week, and the Kings will have to take advantage of a much softer schedule coming up to make up for it.

Star-divide

The Good:

1. DeMarcus Cousins

See Player of the Week

2. Jimmer Fredette's Shooting

Jimmer's shot has finally arrived in the NBA. He's still struggling in other areas of the game (playmaking, defense), but his shooting has been phenomenal. He shot 48.4% from the field and a whopping 64.7% (11-17) from three over this past week. His 3P% is now up to 38% for the year, and it will continue to rise with more consistent shooting performances.

3. Isaiah Thomas Off the Bench

Isaiah might be the best bench player currently on the Kings. For a rookie, that's saying something. When he comes into the game, he's able to bring energy, a scoring punch, and distribution. His defense is still a work in progress, but he has the quickness and mindset to become a pesky defender in time, despite his size. His shooting needs to become consistent as well, although his shot looked very good these past two games.

4. Jason Thompson's Efficiency

Jason is developing a very solid post-game. He does a great job of fighting for position, and has a new go-to hook shot that he can perform with either hand. In fact, he probably doesn't get the ball down low enough for how effective he's been. He took 20 shots in three games this week, and he made 13 of them. He's now shooting 54.8% from the field for the season. His defensive rebounding hasn't been as good though, and that's been a problem. Fortunately for Thompson, Hayes' return from injury should eventually bring JT back to the bench, which strengthens our second unit.

5. Tyreke Evans Against Utah

Tyreke had a phenomenal game against Utah, aggressive and looking like a star. He carried the team all night, and his 31 points were a season-high. His jumper wasn't falling, but nobody could stop him getting to the basket. He also did a great job distributing. This is the Tyreke we want to see night in and night out.

6. Chuck Hayes Return

Hayes returned from his shoulder injury against Utah and played 20 minutes with a shoulder sleeve. He was 0-4 from the field, but his defense and rebounding were solid. Hayes return should bolster both these categories for us, and it will probably eventually lead to the return of JT to the bench, which should help our bench as well.

7. Three Point Shooting

In large part thanks to the return of Jimmer's shot, the Kings have started to shoot very well from three. They've shot 22 of 51 from three this week, or 43.1%, a higher percentage than the Kings have shot from the field this season. Jimmer hit 11 of those, and Isaiah hit 6.

The Bad:

1. Tyreke Evans Against Denver and Portland

These are the type of games that we DON'T want to see from Tyreke. Tyreke is going to see a bunch of minutes every night, so when he doesn't have it going like on these nights, that's a lot of offense the Kings are missing. He's not a good enough distributor to make up for the lack of points, even though he's gotten better, and he usually still tries to score even if it's not working by taking more long jumpers. I'd rather have him attack and try to get fouled instead of resorting to jumpers. He's still not good enough on those.

2. J.J. Hickson's Offensive Game

Does J.J. have to face up every single time he has the ball? He can be within two feet of the rim, and he'll turn around and try to shoot a jumper. He also loves taking long jumpers despite showing no knack for knocking them down, and does not do a good job of setting screens. This trade is looking like a terrible one for the Kings right now.

3. Defensive Rebounding

This is where Hayes can really help. The Kings have been getting killed on the offensive glass lately, thanks to playing a lot of small ball and DeMarcus Cousins being the Kings only really effective rebounder. They gave up offensive rebounding totals of 19, 17 and 15 this week, all more than the Kings themselves grabbed, and two of those totals came against teams that shot better than the Kings, meaning they got more 2nd chances while having less opportunities to get 2nd chances.

The Ugly:

1. Kings Small Forwards

It's almost unfathomable how bad our SFs have been. On most teams, John Salmons would have lost his starting role by now. On the Kings however, our options to replace John Salmons aren't all that great. Garcia might be our best option, but that's not saying much. Personally, I'd opt to start Tyreke at SF along with Jimmer/Isaiah and Marcus in the backcourt when he comes back. It can't be any worse than what we've been trying. Even defensively, the Kings got killed in each week this game by the opposing teams wings (Wallace, Gallinari, Hayward/Miles).

2. Hematoma

Marcus Thornton has a hematoma from his collision with Dwight Howard, and it forced him back to the bench for this week after he had struggled from coming back from the injury too soon. As Tom mentioned, you do NOT want to look up images of hematoma. We do not know when Marcus is set to return, but the original diagnosis was out 1-2 weeks, and we've just finished week one.

3. Blown out by Denver at Home thanks to NINETY TWO POINTS IN THE PAINT

This was the worst game I've ever attended as a Kings fan. The team seemed flat and had no energy, and Denver kept on running and gunning, and the score went up and up. The Nuggets scored a possible NBA record 92 points in the paint, and all but 4 of their field goals came outside of the paint. Denver had almost as many points in the paint as the Kings had total points. This was an embarrassing effort.

Player of the Week:

DeMarcus Cousins

16.3 PPG, .476 FG%, 12.3 RPG, 1.6 APG, 1 STL, 1 BLK

DeMarcus is quickly becoming the Kings most consistent player, and consistency is a thing this team desperately needs. Every night, DeMarcus is a double-double threat, and his efficiency is becoming much better. He's shooting the ball better, and turning it over less. He's also not fouling as much, which means he can stay on the floor longer, as evidenced by his minutes played this week (36.3 MPG).

Image / GIF of the Week:

Just can't get it together

by betweentheeyes on Jan 23, 2012 11:25 PM PST reply actions 11 recs

Comment of the Week:

Nevermind that.

Being a fan of the Sacramento Kings has never been about cheering for a winner. It's about enjoying and showing gratitude for the entire experience, from the highest highs to the lowest lows. It's about defiant, irrational pride. We don't want want Kobe's kind of respect or even Durant's kind of respect, because Sacramento never has and never will be gifted anything, the team nor the city. The respect we want and the respect we have had is the only kind of respect we can get- that of a team, a city, and fans that celebrate our victories with true appreciation and persevere through difficulties with whatever hope we can cling to.

We filled our crappy arena in last year's finale to cheer our crappy team for what seemed would be the very last time. We waved signs, we chanted, we screamed ourselves hoarse, we emptied 26 years of blood from our hearts as our team fought hard, fell behind, heroically charged back, and ultimately fell short. Then we kept right on cheering, the game already lost. We've been given another chance to fill our crappy arena and cheer our crappy team, to wring our hearts of any blood left in there. I hope the guys in black give the fans in the arena good reason to cheer, but the real game being played and the real reason to cheer will have nothing to do with the scoreboard on that night.

by AnotherStupidSN on Jan 27, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions 29 recs

FanPost of the Week:

How Bad Are the Kings Really Doing This Year? by SavageBeast

Highlight of the Week:

Caption Contest:

Link to Last Week's Picture

Last Week's Winner: JulyFishSB

You Know what Time it is....

TYREKE TIME

Last Week's Runner-Up: tonyfrmnatomas

Breaking News: For the first time ever Siamese twins are playing in the NBA. On opposing Teams!!!

This Week's Picture:

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A reminder of the rules for the Caption Contest. Leave your caption in the comments below, and the most rec'd (to recommend a comment, hit action, then rec) caption wins.

This week's caption contest winner gets a hair off of John Salmons chin beard.

Question of the Week:

The Kings desperately need a solution at the Small Forward spot. Here are the options (besides trading for someone):

A) Keep Salmons starting and hope he plays better

B) Start Garcia

C) Start Greene

D) Move Tyreke to the Three

Which option do you choose? I personally am for Option D, when Marcus Thornton comes back. Tyreke can still act as the primary ball handler from the 3, and it might give us better production at the spot. It certainly can't be worse than what we have been trying so far.

And Nostradumbass Prediction for Next Week:

@ Golden State 1/31 W (Kings need to win on the road sometimes, right? Also, it's the Warriors)

v. Portland 2/2 W (Third time's the charm)

v. Golden State 2/4 W (We're just going to dominate this week like there's no tomorrow.)

Nostradumbass Record for the Season: 14-6

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Hmmm… this shoe’s been in an A$$ kicking contest.

by AoxomoxoA on Jan 29, 2012 8:15 AM PST reply actions  

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Leonardo DiCaprio, sketching off-camera: “Now lower your right knee just a little.”

by Tom Ziller on Jan 29, 2012 8:25 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

Aykis, can these two comments be caption of the week as a combo?

I don’t think we’re beating this pair. But I haven’t read the fine print of the GB&U caption contest.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

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In his new life as a cameraman, Grizzly Adams rarely anymore gets the thrill of a beast in close proximity.

by Caljin on Jan 29, 2012 8:26 AM PST reply actions   3 recs

Cuz is the man, his game is improving rapidly, before Reke knows it, it won't be his team anymore

Frances Amthor: I think you're a very stupid person. You look stupid, you're in a stupid business, and you're on a stupid case.

Philip Marlowe: I get it. I'm stupid Farewell My Lovely (1975)

And in this vein I get what I want how I want it because I am the customer. You might want to remember that you thieving scumbag mongrel bitches.

nate21h@evilcowtowninc.com

by Bluejohn on Jan 29, 2012 8:26 AM PST reply actions  

Who has been the player of the week for the last month?

Hint: Not Tyreke Evans

Frances Amthor: I think you're a very stupid person. You look stupid, you're in a stupid business, and you're on a stupid case.

Philip Marlowe: I get it. I'm stupid Farewell My Lovely (1975)

And in this vein I get what I want how I want it because I am the customer. You might want to remember that you thieving scumbag mongrel bitches.

nate21h@evilcowtowninc.com

by Bluejohn on Jan 29, 2012 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

You may want to look again

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by otis29 on Jan 29, 2012 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Do you know how many times in a year I get up at 8:30 am? I'm not wasting this unusual opportunity by going back and searching out back issues of GB & U

Frances Amthor: I think you're a very stupid person. You look stupid, you're in a stupid business, and you're on a stupid case.

Philip Marlowe: I get it. I'm stupid Farewell My Lovely (1975)

And in this vein I get what I want how I want it because I am the customer. You might want to remember that you thieving scumbag mongrel bitches.

nate21h@evilcowtowninc.com

by Bluejohn on Jan 29, 2012 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah sorry

I thought you were stating something as fact.

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by otis29 on Jan 29, 2012 8:35 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

It was DMC

Last weeks GBU

The endless pounding.
A hole, blacker than despair.
John Salmons is back.

by twasserm on Jun 23, 2011

by Dirkula on Jan 29, 2012 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Well that's almost a month I suppose

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by otis29 on Jan 29, 2012 8:47 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Ha!

Month, not week.

Felt like Salmons for a minute there. Open drive to the lane, and I somehow muff it.
Like Salmons, I’ll just say “My bad!”

The endless pounding.
A hole, blacker than despair.
John Salmons is back.

by twasserm on Jun 23, 2011

by Dirkula on Jan 29, 2012 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL - no worries

You just forgot to do a spin move on your way into the lane! I’m sure you would have converted in that case.

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by otis29 on Jan 29, 2012 8:57 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

You guys love your stats.

Reke did look like a star last night, but he also killed team momentum several times. I’m thrilled that he’s starting to pick up more assists, I would be ecstatic to see him learn a little about the flow of the game and making your teammates better. And yes I know teammates are missing their shots and that doesn’t help.

When he dibbled the ball off his foot at the free throw line, I believe it was the third time in a row he was driving the lane. Everyone in the arena knew what he was doing and defenders collapsed, ball stolen, run over. Like the end of the third quarter when he had the ball slapped back in his face. Those explosions to the rim are a lot of fun to watch. Hey you know what I’d bet he would be a really good small forward!

by blknblu on Jan 29, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Several times?

I just rewatched the game and didn’t see it. There were a few times he went back to his old habits, but overall he was excellent, and was the main reason the team had a chance to beat a good team on the road.

Just say “props” and wait a game or two. I’m sure you’ll find some issues to harp on.

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by otis29 on Jan 29, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes. Several times like four or five at least.

God forbid I “harp on” issues on a team that constantly loses games, even ones that are in their grasp. They must be doing things right! Gee we lost another close game but look at that ESPN highlight dunk it’s all good. Lack of talent is one thing, one-on-one basketball year after year is getting harder and harder to watch.

by blknblu on Jan 29, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

You don't sound like a Kings' fan.

Blknblu, is that Timberwolves?

Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."

by Slam_Dunk on Jan 29, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah you're right if I don't like one-on-one basketball I shouldn't be a Kings fan.

I can root for a losing team. And I wanted the Kings to draft Tyreke and I am a fan of the young man. And he has improved a little bit as his assists show. And maybe someday Jimmer will be a good point guard. But to continue with this experiment is just stupid. Now “nobody want to come here” is the new “we have to get the bad contract off the books.” Somehow Petrie could have brought in a vet point guard. Or drafted Walker or Knight. This is just dumb and hard to watch.

by blknblu on Jan 29, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey, you can do whatever you like

I just didn’t see the same things you saw.

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by otis29 on Jan 29, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I am in the middle on this one Otis

Reke did have a spectacular game, but there were some rough patches as well. And one great game, doesn’t change the fact that over last seven games he average 11ppg and shot 27-84. Tyreke’s play for the most part has concerned me this season, spectacular game not withstanding.

by MichaelMack on Jan 29, 2012 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it's the overall development of Reke's game that impresses me

Tyreke is a guy whose game is being wholly redeveloped (at the ripe old age of 22), and I see the glimpses of what he can be. He still desperately needs to improve that jump shot and his left hand though, if he wants to be a dominant lead guard in the league.

I don’t expect the process to always be pretty, but I accept that it is indeed a process.

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by otis29 on Jan 30, 2012 5:25 AM PST up reply actions  

On this we agree, and he does have 5 yrs before he reaches his prime to do it.

"If you don't have anything good to say, LIE" - Mom
The greatest impact player in NBA History - Tim Donaghy

by HighTops on Jan 30, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

The Tyreke hate is getting so tired

It seems like it will never end. Is it just bitter Rubio lovers? Where does all the hate come from? I just don’t get it.

Can he do some things better? Of course. I could also say that about 99% of the players in the league. Even when he has a great game he gets nitpicked.

by Allbenji on Jan 29, 2012 8:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Even over the last 7 his rebounding and assists were up

And I am pretty sure his spectacular Spurs game was also recent. So 2 of his last 5 games he’s been spectacular. And in the others he’s still getting rebounds and assists.

His shooting has been off, but this is largely due to him taking increased jumpers playing within the offense. It’s a clear sign he needs to work on his jump shot, but then again, we already knew that.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I am just much more concerned about Tyreke's game

And I think PW did nothing to enhance it. I hope Smart can make the Tyreke the player we hope him to be. If you look at his game by game stats, he is not a consistent player. Even on the court, he seems to have times he dominates, and other times he seems almost oblivious.

by MichaelMack on Jan 29, 2012 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

That's true of a lot of young players. Especially without the jumper.

Look, I wish I could guarantee that Evans would become a superstar. Clearly I can’t. But he has the tools. And I too am hoping Smart is a better mentor to him than PW.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, then we agree

but a lot of young players are not being built around, and I think the Kings have invested A LOT in Tyreke, from having PW (in my opinion) coddle him, to disposing of players who questioned the coaching and direction of the team (Martin, Hawes, Casspi, Dalambert). I don’t think it is dramatic to say the near and far future heavily depends upon Tyreke raising his game to All Star level.

by MichaelMack on Jan 29, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree it does.

Although, I don’t think we got rid of all those players for Evans. Martin I think we did. Some of the others either weren’t that good or didn’t vibe with PW. The only one we arguably got rid of in favor of Evans was Martin. And while he’s a good player, you certainly don’t want to build a franchise around him.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I see what you are saying

But I think PW giving a rookie free reign was a major part of why those other three did not vibe with the Coach, and the FO chose to keep Evans happy over everyone else, thus my thoughts on him being such a major investment.

by MichaelMack on Jan 29, 2012 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you are reading too much into it

I think they wanted to market around Evans and put the ball in his hands more.

I think we have very little talent his rookie season, so we didn’t have a lot of other options (especially given PW’s inability to construct a complex offense once we had more players).

I haven’t seen Evans bristle at playing a role so far under Smart. And there was nothing I saw under PW that told me Evans was unwilling to play another style. So I don’t think it’s fair to say it was about keeping him happy.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I understand this might all be in my head

but, Evans wouldn’t bristle if he was being catered to.

I also don’t think it is in his personality to need to be catered to, which is why I think PW and the FO did a disservice to him in his rookie year.

by MichaelMack on Jan 30, 2012 12:44 AM PST up reply actions  

He's had 2 terrific games out of his last 8...

…but my problem is that when he’s not on his A+ game, he’s usually at about a D or an F. If you take out the Utah and San Antonio games, Tyreke has averaged 9.0 ppg on 26.2% FG, 3.7 FTA, 4.3 rebounds, 5.8 assists, and 3.2 turnovers a game. His TS%? 36.2%.

I understand we can expect Tyreke to have his ups and his lows. As of late, though, we’ve been seeing a lot of some really wretched lows, not nearly enough highs, and essentially nothing in between.

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by napg on Jan 30, 2012 6:37 AM PST up reply actions  

What's your point?

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by section214 on Jan 29, 2012 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

He's not Lebron.

I think that’s his point.

"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!

by caseycheesecake on Jan 30, 2012 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Another Stupid has a huge heart = well worth posting again

Frances Amthor: I think you're a very stupid person. You look stupid, you're in a stupid business, and you're on a stupid case.

Philip Marlowe: I get it. I'm stupid Farewell My Lovely (1975)

And in this vein I get what I want how I want it because I am the customer. You might want to remember that you thieving scumbag mongrel bitches.

nate21h@evilcowtowninc.com

by Bluejohn on Jan 29, 2012 8:36 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Absolutely!

It reminded me a lot of how lucky we all are to have each other for support. Lord knows it ain’t easy being a Kings fan sometimes, but this post rekindled my fire.

The endless pounding.
A hole, blacker than despair.
John Salmons is back.

by twasserm on Jun 23, 2011

by Dirkula on Jan 29, 2012 8:39 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Perfect

"I gotta have more cowbell"

by CowbellKings on Jan 29, 2012 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Needz Moar Green...

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by SierraSpartan on Jan 29, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I haven't been able to watch several of the past games

Os Honeycutt really that bad that he doesn’t get an extended look to see if he might be better than the shit show that is our SF’s?

by Merickel on Jan 29, 2012 8:42 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

I think he needs gym/maturation time

Unlike fellow rookies Thomas and Fredette, Honeycutt would be called upon to cover the likes of G.Wallace, Durant, Granger, Gay, etc. Last I saw of him, he looked like a guy that had a nice feel for the game but was in dire need of NBA strength.

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by section214 on Jan 29, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

I suppose it would be rough to throw him to the wolves like that.

by Merickel on Jan 29, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Caption:

Ref: ‘Hey Tyreke, check out what I’ve been working on during the lockout. I call this drop “the broken ankles!”

Tyreke: " Sweet man, can I borrow your cheat sheet to learn some bboying moves?"

by adamsite on Jan 29, 2012 8:44 AM PST reply actions  

Caption

“Trick or treat, smell my feet, give me something good to eat!”

Referee’s are so childish sometimes.

(For the record, this had better not be a home game. If I see Reke diving for a ball like that right in front of me, I sure as hell wouldn’t be sitting there with my hands in my lap!)

The endless pounding.
A hole, blacker than despair.
John Salmons is back.

by twasserm on Jun 23, 2011

by Dirkula on Jan 29, 2012 8:49 AM PST reply actions  

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The NBA, where losing one’s balls is a nightly event.

Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."

by Slam_Dunk on Jan 29, 2012 8:50 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Why is this not green?

You guys with your obsession over your balls. I thought you would be all over this.

Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."

by Slam_Dunk on Jan 29, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

you ball blocked yourself

and come to think of it – I will submit this as my suggested caption.

by betweentheeyes on Jan 29, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I looked it up.

It means being kept from playing on the basketball court.

Okay, I get it. I’m not welcome here. If that’s the way you guys feel, then I don’t want to continue where I’m not welcome.

Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."

by Slam_Dunk on Jan 29, 2012 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Oy vay

Slam – your comments are welcome as well as your disdain for my comments. If I have offended you, I humbly ask for your forgiveness, it was not my intention.

You baited the line with your comment about ball obsession. I went with the bait hook, line and sinker.

by betweentheeyes on Jan 29, 2012 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Btte,

I accept your sincere apology.

I didn’t even know what the term, “ball blocked” meant. You succinctly expressed what I had been feeling, answering my question of, “Why?”

I don’t believe when you posted it, you had any idea of the effect it would have on me. In a discerning manner you encompassed the situation of being left out of the game. It was an honest answer, one I was somewhat unprepared for.

It hurt. I immediately got the image of a young boy standing by the sidelines, wanting to get into the game, but being left out of it by the other guys on the court, who wouldn’t let him in to play. I had strong feelings of being excluded.

Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."

by Slam_Dunk on Jan 31, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah Slam, you make great contributions here

Everyone gets mocked at some point in this forum. Happens to the mods, the posters and the noobs.

The constant humor is one of the many great qualities that separates STR from the otehr sites.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Yikes

Photobucket

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by otis29 on Jan 30, 2012 5:31 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

FEEL THE POWER OF THE DARK SIDE OF THE FORCE FLOW THROUGH YOU MY SON

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by otis29 on Jan 30, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

As an aside

I just got my first Blu-Ray player at Christmas time and I see that the full set of Star Wars flicks can be purchased for under $100. As my wife tells me quite often – I can’t afford not to buy it!

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by otis29 on Jan 30, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

You can't afford not to!

Always here to help stoke those marital fires – you don’t even need to ask!

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by section214 on Jan 30, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Word of caution,

Greedo shoots first.

" 1 + 1 = 3 " - David Kahn

by Shizzo on Feb 1, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Caption:

Ref: “Tyreke, draw me like one of your French girls…”

by BPaoliano on Jan 29, 2012 8:53 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Caption

Kings Center DeMarcus Cousins faints as one of that evening’s referees inexplicably demonstrates the new “party trick” he learned in Bangkok. Time-traveling-prospector pretending to be a cameraman exclaims, “THAT’S GOLD!!! GOOOOLLLD I TELLS YA!”

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by AnotherStupidSN on Jan 29, 2012 8:57 AM PST reply actions   3 recs

Wow....just wow.

It’s like a “Family Guy” clip.

by adamsite on Jan 29, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Caption:

Ref: “Ah man, I think I stepped in something that fell out of Chris Anderson’s mouth. Get if off Tyreke!! GET IT OFFFFFFF!”

Tyreke: “Yup, sure did. You’d better have that looked at.”

by adamsite on Jan 29, 2012 9:02 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Caption:

’Yo Ref, Lift up your foot real quick, I think I saw a quarter"

by KingsFromNY on Jan 29, 2012 9:09 AM PST reply actions  

After our bench was scoreless minus Isaiah going into the 3rd,

I really did expect to see Honeycutt getting some burn. Like everyone has said before on here, he couldn’t have played any worse than the rest of our SFs and deep down I really felt that his length, youth, and hustle could’ve given Hayward some trouble.

by KingsFromNY on Jan 29, 2012 9:11 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

I wasn't surprise. We had a good shot at winning the game last night.

Doubt Smart wanted to risk putting Honeycutt in. I see your point, though,with the bench being scoreless, but Honeycutt just got called back from the D-league.

Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."

by Slam_Dunk on Jan 29, 2012 9:21 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

D) Move Tyreke to the Three

Tyreke can easily be a point forward.

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by CowbellKings on Jan 29, 2012 9:15 AM PST reply actions  

Like Iguodala?

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by caseycheesecake on Jan 29, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

This idea is growing on me

Particulrly if Reke still has the ball as the point forward. Put your best 5 guys on the floor, I don’t care what position they’re called.

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by Exhibit G on Jan 30, 2012 7:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the only long term option for the SF spot is a trade.

Or wait untill this summer for a FA. But since Aykis elliminated that option, I’d leave Salmons as the starter, but play as much small ball as possible with IT, Jimmer, Thorton, and Reke.

I really hope Petrie is doing some shopping right now. JT or JJ are the guys I’d expect to be moved if something happened.

by Crocoduck on Jan 29, 2012 9:15 AM PST reply actions  

Option D) Try Tyreke at the 3

Why wait until MT comes back? Do it now.

Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."

by Slam_Dunk on Jan 29, 2012 9:17 AM PST reply actions  

Short term answer

But probably gives us the best chance to win now.

by Crocoduck on Jan 29, 2012 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Short-term to solve the Salmons problem.

but Reke may turn out to suited for the position over the long-term.

Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."

by Slam_Dunk on Jan 29, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

PS.

WHY DOESN’T TYREKE DUNK MORE?!?!? When he gets a full head of steam running, he moves like a jaguar… so fast and powerful. I almost J O’d after that dunk.

by KingsFromNY on Jan 29, 2012 9:31 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Were you that guy sitting behind Jimmer?

Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."

by Slam_Dunk on Jan 29, 2012 9:57 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

He needs a big running start usually

before he does crazy dunks like that.

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by Aykis16 on Jan 29, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

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Camera Man: “Oh, wow, man! I should not have burned one during player introductions.”

"Put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair, and I can GUARANTEE Tyreke would demolish either. You might want to rethink what you just said." - MarcusC.

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Ref: “…And see, the weight of the ball on my lower legs actually makes kegels more efficient.”

"Put Kobe or Lebron in a wheelchair, and I can GUARANTEE Tyreke would demolish either. You might want to rethink what you just said." - MarcusC.

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by PhutureKings on Jan 29, 2012 10:11 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

Caption:

Tyreke: “Crikey… take a look at this, mates! ‘Tis the largest snake I’ve EVA laid eyes on. A real beaut, in’t she? This specimen in particular is notoriously hostile, and I tell ya wot – this one is grumpy! Their assaults are highly malign and will leave an extremely scathing wound. You shouldn’t horse around with these things as they are quite dangerous. Let’s see wot ’appens when you throw a ball into its ass!”

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by swoosh91 on Jan 29, 2012 10:14 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

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Acting as a ref during the WWE halftime show (NBA Ref VS NBA bal), Tyreke prepares to count out the Ref 1….2…
Camera man: Wait his shoulder is not down!!!!!

by tonyfrmnatomas on Jan 29, 2012 10:14 AM PST reply actions  

Sign Wilson Chandler next month!

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by solis91 on Jan 29, 2012 10:25 AM PST reply actions  

Tyreke – Push! Push! Push! aww you pushed through the wrong hole

"Good lordy wowdy I just took more shots then Kobe"

by solis91 on Jan 29, 2012 10:26 AM PST reply actions  

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fans were treated to halftime filming of "The NBA Kama Sutra as told by Gabby Hayes "

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by Skeptic con Urquell on Jan 29, 2012 10:27 AM PST reply actions  

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Tyreke: I know I smell Purps somewhere around here

Camera guy: Dude Its Train wreck, Uh err I mean dude its his not mine, dude, do i look like a weed smoker? come on.

by tonyfrmnatomas on Jan 29, 2012 10:34 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Can we end the Tyreke to the 3 movement?

Its just doesn’t matter.
At the end of games It will be Reke Thornton and Jimmer or IT. Call them whatever freaking positions you want.

35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.

by ElRonToro on Jan 29, 2012 10:38 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Tyreke>Fish

Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."

by Slam_Dunk on Jan 29, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

It does matter

if at the end of the game you are down by 20…

Something needs to happen at the SF position. At this point, you’re better of at trying Tyreke at the 3, or even give Donte 10 starts and an extended period to prove himself. Hell, maybe coming off the bench and playing against the scrubs will help Salmons to get back on track again. But not doing anything about the 3 spot is simply not an option, IMO. For crying out loud, I’m starting to pine for the days that PW gave JT minutes at the SF spot….

by RikSmits on Jan 29, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I think both of those are good options

Having Green get some time, or having Reke play there (which is my preference). I worry about what coming off the bench will do to Salmons though. We do not need another K9 situation.

by MichaelMack on Jan 29, 2012 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with this...

Starting Tyreke at the SF is only a short fix. He is playing the position in the 4th anyways, but I think playing him there all game will wear him out too much.

Whatever happens at the ‘3’ I think Salmons needs to go to the bench for a couple games at the very least. Give Donte or Cisco a couple starts and see what happens.

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by Wonderchild on Jan 29, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Can we at least call it what it is you guys are asking?

a 3 guard lineup?

35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.

by ElRonToro on Jan 29, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

That's what it is

People get stuck thinking about SF. Salmons isn’t a true SF either. We don’t really even have a true SF on the roster although Greene and Outlaw are probably closest.

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by Aykis16 on Jan 29, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Can we have an E choice for question of the week?

E) Give Honeycutt some burn because our other guys have been awful and he’s at least an unknown (vs. a known- garbage)

by outrider on Jan 29, 2012 10:39 AM PST reply actions  

Answer to question

E) Have Coach Smart consult with Francisco Garcia, aka The Salmons Whisperer, as to who will rise the hot hand on a given evening.

This was an effective strategy in our biggest win of the year vs. the Spurs.

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by RJinFairOaks on Jan 29, 2012 11:09 AM PST reply actions  

Caption contest

Watch as he stalks his prey…

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Caption:

Pigpen: Im gonna need a bucket, a paint brush, and ten pounds of salt. Lance, get his pants.

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by Wonderchild on Jan 29, 2012 11:26 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Nice

That doesn’t get referenced very often

by craigpg on Jan 29, 2012 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Caption

Tyreke’s testing his next shoe idea, scratch and sniff.

by ahgraham on Jan 29, 2012 11:36 AM PST reply actions  

Caption

Does the ping pong trick really count as an inbound pass?

by ahgraham on Jan 29, 2012 11:40 AM PST reply actions  

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Hey Ref! What’s that smell? I think you might have stepped in…yup, it’s dog shit!

by convoy on Jan 29, 2012 12:07 PM PST reply actions  

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Chuck Manson : “I hope this doesn’t blow my cover”

35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.

by ElRonToro on Jan 29, 2012 12:19 PM PST reply actions  

IT or Jimmer at the point

Kings outscored the Jazz badly with IT at the point and the ball out of Evan’s hands. Tyreke will score and rebound just as much at the 2 or 3 but with IT or Jimmer at the point other players will have the chance to contribute. I’d alternate Jimmer and IT at the point the entire game and see if the team responds. Evans is clearly the Kings best player the way LeBron is in Miami but Miami is better when a point guard who can pass improves the offense. I think Evans will do just as well and the balance of the team will improve. I like IT off the bench for his spark ability and change of pace and Jimmer as starter because I feel he has a higher ceiling. If Evans takes minutes away from Salmons at the 3 I’m all for it. I didn;t realize how ineffective and downright lazy Salmons was until I watched last night’s game.

by bankers hours on Jan 29, 2012 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

Man, you really don't like Evans, but your statement isn't even true

Isiah hit 3 threes while playing off ball. He also created two shots for himself. And he had 0 assists. Thomas played well yesterday, but if your solution is to stick Evans off ball while letting a rookie run the show based on a game without a single assist from him. That’s a pretty dicey decision.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Evans

I said he was clearly their best player, how’s that hating on him.

by bankers hours on Jan 29, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, he's not hating on Evans.

I agree with you BH. Reke is great, but his issues come with him having to handle the ball too much. Kings need a PG, and IT is just that (for now).

by amonk81 on Jan 29, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I may have read it the wrong way

Frankly, I don’t care what position Evans plays. His usage will be the same. Once we get into the halfcourt, the offense will run this Cousins and him. Doesn’t matter to me who dribbles the ball up the court.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

This is so far from being the truth

The Kings offense hummed with Tyreke at the point, all the way up to when he came out of the game the first time. That’s when things took an ugly turn in the 2nd quarter.

The best (only) point guard on the floor last night for the Kings was Evans – an assist every 4-5 minutes of game time. Meanwhile, Fredette had 1 in 31 minutes, and Thomas had 0(!) assists.

Fredette looked like a potential backcourt partner for ‘Reke at the start of last night’s game, and Thomas can effectively share the backcourt with Evans as well. But neither one of them is currently in the same zip code as Evans when it comes to being an NBA lead guard. Evans may have his flaws, but he is light years ahead of anyone else on the roster when it comes to running an offense and, yes, making his teammates better.

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by section214 on Jan 29, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

THANK YOU!!!!!

How in the world do people disregard the obvious sometimes? I keep hearing that they need IT or Jimmer as they “actually pass the ball and distribute” when like it or not Tyreke actually has as many assists as anyone (total and per 48). He also is the most efficient scorer thus far out of the bunch (Jimmer get to the line once or twice please!) I think it is clear as day who the best PG is at this time on this team.

I think the fact that they lack a quality SF is making people hate on Tyreke’s ability to play the point but lets look at the options. Even if you pull him right now and make him a 3 you still have to put in another guard (Jimmer or IT) which will (in my opinion) lower the defense and rebounding considerably. You are picking your poison at this point.

But back on topic, 214 is dead on there is NO WAY anyone can possibly argue that Tyreke is not the best facilitator on this team for now, especially if judging base solely on last night’s game.

by WebberDynasty on Jan 29, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I still think Reke and the Kings eventually need a PG to thrive, but perhaps overboard by me to think IT is that.

Obviously, Reke is the best option at the moment at running the show. Perhaps IT can run the show effectively for a bit and see what he’s got.

Ultimately, as I’ve stated, Reke is a badass, but should not be forced to play the PG all the time. I think the team will run more effectively if and when the Kings get a PG alongside Reke.

by amonk81 on Jan 29, 2012 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

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Ref – “What’s on my shoe? It’s rancid”
Reke – “You stepped in our small forward spot”

by amonk81 on Jan 29, 2012 12:30 PM PST reply actions  

Start Garcia (blech)

To me it’s the least terrible option. Tyreke is finally making good progress at the point guard position, and now everyone wants to take him away from that and play another player out of position?

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by prowseinthehouse on Jan 29, 2012 12:30 PM PST reply actions  

Reke - and thanks for the GBU Aykis......

Reke at the 3 may be OK for now, and though I’ve thought Reke trade for a PG of equal talent is acceptable, I’m back to thinking that most of Reke’s issues can be helped by this team getting a PG.

Reke was an absolute beast, and can be, but it’s his decision making that seems to be the real problem (and shot). Reke makes good and bad decisions, and will continue to do so. All he needs is a bit less time with the ball in his hands, so he doesn’t have to make so many decisions. Get a PG (eventually) and Reke’s problems start to dissipate. .

by amonk81 on Jan 29, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Tyreke needs to stay exactly where he's at

And I’d probably start Garcia as well. He is the most willing passer out of the bunch and still plays good defense.

by HeuristicLineup on Jan 29, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

If he stays at pg why did the Kings draft Jimmer and IT.

by bankers hours on Jan 29, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

They drafted Jimmer and IT to run the show, but Reke is better at it, for now.

I highly doubt Jimmer will be the PG they need. Petrie really did terribly this off season by not acquiring a PG or SF.

by amonk81 on Jan 29, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah two point guards who were shooting guards until recently.

Which is fine you just have your veteran point guard tutor them oh wait -

by blknblu on Jan 29, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Where were they shooting guards?

Both played the point in college, Isaiah has played it his entire life

by HeuristicLineup on Jan 29, 2012 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

IT played the 2 almost his entire life

He played 2/3 of his last college season as PG after the starting PG tore an ACL. The other 2 1/3 years at Washington he was a SG.

by Skeptical Dawg on Jan 29, 2012 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, not the case

Isaiah was forced into the PG role due to an injury on his Washington squad in his Senior season. Prior to that, he was more of a shooting guard who played a bit of the point at times.

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by otis29 on Jan 30, 2012 5:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Same thing with Tyreke at Memphis, right?

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by Wonderchild on Jan 30, 2012 7:56 AM PST up reply actions  

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by fffindeed on Jan 29, 2012 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You also

neglected to mention Honeycutt whom in college was not a slouch at the SF position. If you need a refresh then i would start here. this should help.

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by fffindeed on Jan 29, 2012 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Jimmer could get there

Evans will be our main backcourt weapon, so we don’t need a true PG. But if Jimmer can shoot and pass, he’ll fit nicely with Evans and Cousins.

Agree that Petrie should have picked up a veteran PG. Someone cheap who could come off the bench and settle the team down. Jimmer may get there, but that’s a lot to put on a rookie.

SF stinks. Petrie at least tried to address that. Was not a good offseason for SFs in general. I will say that I am shocked by Salmons terrible level of play. He’s not that old and has been fairly consistent. A lot of people who disliked the trade were concerned he would pound the ball too much. But even most of them could see him giving us better D and shooting. And he’s just been awful.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Kings do need a true PG, and Salmons is horrible....

Having Reke run the O would be equivalent to letting Wade or Kobe do the same. It’s not about dribbling the ball up, it’s about decisions a PG makes, vrs. a scorer. Wade and Kobe (and Reke) are obviously great players, but they need fascilitators or their style of play will ultimately hold back the team.

And Salmons’ is terrible. His lack of effort is really astonishing.

by amonk81 on Jan 29, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Those comments are on the money. As long as the team is really going nowhere this year why not try Jimmer at the PG and let him develop. What’s the difference winning 20 or 25 games if a long term solition is possible. Otherwise why the hell did they dratf Jimmer at 10.

by bankers hours on Jan 29, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah point forward or whatever Reke has to have the ball a lot

And Reke was awesome against the Spurs when he let the game come to him. But I have to think Reke would be even better with a veteran point guard/combo guard helping the team to function. Maybe in the meantime the Kings can play more games like the San Antonio game. Props to JT on another great game also.

by blknblu on Jan 29, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

This is even more confusing

Kobe’s PG’s – Derek Fisher, Ron Harper, Brian Shaw, Smush Parker

Wade’s PGs – Jason Williams, Mario Chalmers, Norris Cole, Chris Quinn

None of those players were running the offense. They dribbled the ball up and initiated the offense then hit open shots. Those teams actually ran an offense, so like we are getting with Smart it wasn’t a constant 1 four flat or P&R with no off ball movement. But neither Kobe nor Wade had a true PG running the show while they played off ball. The offense revolved around and depended on those two. And both of them were score first players who were also good facilitators.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Those are so/so PGs, but true PGs

All the PGs you listed are true PGs (except maybe Shaw). And Harper didn’t ever really run the show…… Point is, those PGs, and any PG, brings the ball up and they do run the offense. The call the play, get guys in place and start the ball rolling. Wade and Kobe are not forced to play the PG/run the O all the time (or most), and that’s all I’m saying about Reke. He eventually needs a PG to help.

Or think of AI. Needed a PG to really go far with his team. That’s the case. In order for the Kings to become good, they will need to get a PG. Until then, I agree, Reke is the best option.

by amonk81 on Jan 29, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, we don't disagree on that

I am fine bringing in someone to dribble the ball up the court and initiate the play.

I think Jimmer can develop into that player too, which is why I would be hesitant to spend a lot of money on someone like DJ Augustine at the moment (we’ll see how Jimmer progresses this season).

But there’s a huge gulf between calling for a Derek Fisher to play next to Evans and trading for a Raymond Felton, Andre Miller or Jose Calderon.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Question

By that argument, then, you are saying that Evans is the equivalent of Wade and Kobe, is that correct?

by MichaelMack on Jan 29, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Not that he is at the same level they developed over their careers

But a similar type of player. He may never reach their level (Kobe’s in particular), but you utilize him the same way.

To be clear, we are talking about styles of players, not saying that you could trade Evans to the Heat for Wade and they would produce the same outcome on the game.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Still remember his rookie year when he was

playing with Odom, Jones and Butler, but you could really see the potential there. He would carry that team for stretches.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I ask

because I wonder if the front office thinks that he is DWade-lite. I don’t think he is, but I am not an NBA General Manager either. I just worry that we are building an entire team around a very good player rather than a great one.

by MichaelMack on Jan 29, 2012 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

awesome.

thanks for that Wally.

Now, at the risk of being flamed, I watch that and I do not see Tyreke near that type of player.

While that may sound like some damnation of Tyreke, it really isn’t. We just need to be realistic about the talent we have.

by MichaelMack on Jan 29, 2012 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe there's some confusion

I don’t think those of us who “support” Tyreke are confused enough to see him potentially as a Wade or a Kobe.

I think he can be very, very good – and this team needs much more of that.

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by otis29 on Jan 30, 2012 5:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, we will see.

Hopefully either Evans or Cousins can become great. Both have the potential. The problem is the players out there who are “sure things” aren’t signing here and aren’t coming back if we trade Evans or Cousins.

It’s the plight of the small market team in the NBA. In other sports you can make up for lack of top-end quality with a quantity of very good players a bit more easily. In the NBA, you have to roll the dice.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I really see

Tyreke being more of a Steve Francis type than Kobe. Because he was so flaky in the latter part of his career, I think people forget how effective Steve was in his first few years.

by MichaelMack on Jan 29, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah part of me worries about Tyreke like that

Seems lately like Tyreke will have 1 good game and then two bad ones. Tyreke seems like he might be the type of player who never actually gets any better, or perhaps like Steve Francis, could actually get worse. Hope not though.

by convoy on Jan 29, 2012 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, that remains to be seen

But it was injuries that really derailed Francis later in his career. He relied on speed. I don’t see Evans as the same type of player. Though he certainly could fall short of where we need him to be.

But there are enough positives to give him more time. I certainly don’t want to stunt his development or trade him for .50 on the dollar like many of the proposals in the AT Thread.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I see Tyreke as being a big ass Tony Parker right now

Parker always has a real niche of getting to the hole when he was younger, but had no jumper whatsoever.

by elSAVinator on Jan 29, 2012 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

They are building around him and DeMarcus

I don’t think you’re going in the wrong direction by developing around two young guys, one in the frontcourt and one in the backcourt, who have a ton of potential on both the offensive and defensive end.

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by otis29 on Jan 30, 2012 5:38 AM PST up reply actions  

You still see it at times

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by otis29 on Jan 30, 2012 5:37 AM PST up reply actions  

IT was the 60th pick in the draft

So most likely they were taking the guy who they thought had the most talent at that point. Plus, he was a PG in college for about as long as Tyreke.

I think the hope with Jimmer is that his outside shooting would stretch the defense out.

If the team wanted to move Evans out for a “traditional” PG, I don’t think selecting Jimmer and Isaiah was the way to go about it.

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by otis29 on Jan 29, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm biased but I think IT has a high ceiling

The only knock ever about him is height. If he was 6’ 4" he’d have been a top 15 pick.

by Skeptical Dawg on Jan 29, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I get what your saying BUT...

I dont think that’s the only knock about him. Right now his shooting percentage and rate are a bit of a knock as far as I am concerned. Obviously still young and time to improve but lets not forget the guys was a 42/70% shooter in college and a 2/1 a/to guy so he hasnt exactly proved TOO much yet either. Lets let him develop into what we hope before we make him out to be more than he ever was. People need to be patient with both him and Jimmer, neither have ever been the player fans are wanting them to be (the super efficient facilitator.)

by WebberDynasty on Jan 29, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but again part of the shooting problems

is trying to shoot over a guy who’s at least half a foot taller than you are.

by Skeptical Dawg on Jan 29, 2012 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Jimmer is also a bit undersized

and both had been struggling shooting but are better now. They’re guys that need their offense to get them good looks because they can’t shoot over people. Good offense is, I think, something every fan would agree the Kings lack right now. But it is getting better.

by Skeptical Dawg on Jan 29, 2012 10:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Which is why I would question his decision making as well

Driving a packed lane and going for dunks at 5’8" or whatever is not exactly going high percentage. Taking shots you are struggling to get off because of your size is not desirable. He needs to manage better. I love his tenacity, love his approach, BUT I think he needs to learn better control. He could develop into a nice bench PG (for a team with solid guards only needing 15 minutes a game or so.) But I think he has to learn to play within himself a bit more still of course.

by WebberDynasty on Jan 30, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

They drafted IT because he was the most talented player available at #60.

They drafted Jimmer, because he’s Jimmer, and GP is still trying to prove that Quincy Douby wasn’t a mistake. That if you have a great shooter, you can make him into a decent PG. Especially when your shooting guard, is your perpetrator/disher, so you don’t need a PG who penetrates to draw double teams, to get open shots for your set shooters.

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by HighTops on Jan 29, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

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Keith Smart could only feel helpless as he watched the ref butt-dribble past Salmons, through our defense and score two more points in the paint. The next day Geoff Petrie signed him and he was immediately our best SF.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 12:46 PM PST reply actions  

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No, I never said "Hey sweetheart I'm Rookie of the Year." I told her "I'm Tyreke Evans" though............Tyreke Evans

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Bill Walton’s cousin describes his first night on the job as King’s court-side camera man as, “trippy”.

by double rainbow on Jan 29, 2012 1:18 PM PST reply actions  

Watching it. Enjoying it.

Having LBJ on your fantasy team makes it pretty sweet ;D.

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Just to avoid the block go high off the glass//
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 29, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Derrick Rose made some truly amazing plays

and then choked the free throws…

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by caseycheesecake on Jan 30, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

That is the one area that can not be excused in regards to John Salmons

The shots aren’t falling. Ok, that stinks, but it is not like the guy is trying to miss. I can deal with that disappointment. The thing I cannot understand is why this veteran, who has other skills for which he is known, is not busting his hump on the defensive end. Basketball is a game with many avenues for success. Salmons could be, should be, rebounding, overextending his defensive effort, passing, etc. That he is not doing those other things (besides scoring) is his largest damnation, IMO.

by betweentheeyes on Jan 29, 2012 6:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Salmons made a couple good plays in the 3rd quarter when he was coming off Hayes' screens.

He made 2 straight shots at the foul line, then a good pass that led to a JT layup. It was this play they ran 3 straight times, I think Grant called the play “New York, New York” or something like that.

Salmons has been utterly misused on offense thus far by us. Having him sit in the corner waiting for the ball is not and never has been his game.

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by Wonderchild on Jan 29, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Obviously Salmons has been awful this year

but we set him up to fail. He is not big enough nor athletic enough to play 30 min/game at SF. Nor is his offensive game keyed to playing with several shoot first one on one players, and a coach who let them play that way.

by MichaelMack on Jan 29, 2012 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Well said

As HT noted above, Salmons should be our best SF, but watching him make lazy plays while Donte dives for loose balls sends a clear message about effort level. I hope that Smart can coach Donte on some of the nuances of team defense and offensive movement enough to give him more of Salmons minutes, because frankly I’d rather watch him bust his tail instead of Salmons look so disinterested.

by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 30, 2012 12:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm okay with that

It’s probably tough for Reke to defer to a rookie who’s still learning the position and making mistakes, but that’s a valid point about the matchups. Just like to see Reke share floor general duties.

You are 100% right about Salmon’s lackadaisical (had to copy your sp.) play and effort. That back court play was embarrassing.

by blknblu on Jan 29, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

He's 22

and on the verge of a triple double any night. Do you know how many teams want a guy like this. Please stop with the negativity. He is the Kings star and he’s not going anywhere.

by F3RRi3R on Jan 29, 2012 8:11 PM PST up reply actions  

And he told you personally that he thinks he's a superstar?

Because I’ve never heard him say it, and I’ve never seen him conduct himself in a way that would give me the impression that he thinks that he’s above his teammates.

You’ve sure got a burr under your saddle when it comes to this young man.

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by section214 on Jan 29, 2012 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Saddleburr is a serious affliction.

"Crescit cum comercio civicas"

Throw it around the back so it look fly when I pass//
Just to avoid the block go high off the glass//
I'm killing them out there they gon' have to bring caskets//
This all I hear after the baskets *swoosh*//

by HarveySpecter on Jan 29, 2012 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm with HT

I feel like Donte is a better fit with the starting unit (with Salmons playing so bad) and would give him the nod. Better matchup defensively and could be our 4th,5th option on offense.

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by edm7 on Jan 29, 2012 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Caption

Cuz:" Right foot on green".
Ref: “You can´t be serious!”

by rubenho on Jan 30, 2012 3:33 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

Yay I won

Ahahahaha

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by JulyFishSB on Jan 30, 2012 7:56 AM PST reply actions  

Start Cisco at the SF

with Reke and MT. Not an optimal solution, but at least he isn’t a ball hog.

Why not have Cisco call the play and set up Reke, MT and DMC?

by polotown on Jan 30, 2012 9:00 AM PST reply actions  

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