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Good read
For what it’s worth, he has to be a star, based on the fact that he has a cool first name. Lebron, Kobe, Amare, Carmelo, Tyreke! Coincidence? I think not!
Once again, Cowbell Kingdom hits a home run
Winning is the name of the game. And yes, Tyreke Evans is a potential star. He has unique physical qualities and he has a good head for the game, but he needs to be molded into a point guard. Is he MVP Derrick Rose? No, but the comparison is not far off, IMO.
School, teach, coach, mold and be patient – if that is still the direction the Kings are taking for Evans, I think it is a wise approach.
by betweentheeyes on Jan 29, 2012 7:07 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
I Evans the team leader? Is Cousins?
We are so much like the Thunder, with the exception of winning games.
"I'm open! I'm open!" -Jim Les, 1991
A cheap copy
and one without 4 draft picks at 2,3,4,5 in three years
by betweentheeyes on Jan 29, 2012 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
2,3,4,5
2-Durant
3-???
4-Westbrook
5- Harden
Was Green a #3 pick?
"I'm open! I'm open!" -Jim Les, 1991
wrong, sorry. Durant, Harden, Westbrook, Green
by betweentheeyes on Jan 29, 2012 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
Damn,
those are some might strong draft positions. Durant was a pretty obvious pick but other than that, they could have missed on any of those other picks, and may have with Green I suppose. Still, when you throw the Serge pick in there, they have made some great decisions in the draft.
"I'm open! I'm open!" -Jim Les, 1991
They had opportunity and they made the best of it
Luck + skill
by betweentheeyes on Jan 29, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
Opportunity + Preparation
"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!
by caseycheesecake on Jan 30, 2012 8:38 AM PST up reply actions
Would have been hard to mess up too badly
#2 pick – Durant was a no brainer
#3 pick - Picks 3-10 were Harden, Evans, Rubio, Flynn, Curry, Jordan Hill, Derozan and Jennings. Would have been really hard to mess that pick up.
#4 pick - Picks 4-10 were Westbrook, Love, Gallinari, Eric Gordon, Joe Alexander, DJ Augustine & Brook Lopez. Again, anyone of them except for Alexander would look nice next to Durant. Realistically anyone with that pick would have been choosing between Westbrook, Love, & Gordon.
#5 – Picks 5-10 were Green, Jianlian, Corey Brewer, Brandan Wright, Noah, and Hawes. This draft is the opposite of the last two. He had to find the proverbial needle in the haystack to get Noah and he didn’t. A lot of other GMs wouldn’t have either.
I think Presti has done a nice job, especially with making trades to create additional value (swapping contracts for later first round picks). But I think he gets a little overrated. Time may prove him to be a genius, but so far he’s a GM who took over when a team was at it’s low point and used a ton of early draft picks in loaded drafts.
I mean, considering Durant was a given for any GM in the league (except Kahn maybe), you can pick a lot of different combos and have an equally good team. Especially from the #3 and #4 picks.
Let’s assume any GM whiffs on the Green pick: Durant-Lopez-Rubio sounds great. Durant-Love-Evans would be monstrous. Durant-Curry-Gallinari is an offensive explosion. Durant-Gordon-Jennings is undersized, but dangerous. And this is without using any player from the #3 or #4 pick twice.
This is why it is so hard to judge NBA GMs. The intersection of luck and skill is hard to judge. Bad ones are much easier to identify. But when people start trying to separate the good ones, they are normally crediting GMs for lucking into a superstar who makes everyone else look better (see: Spurs).
by SPTSJUNKIE on Jan 29, 2012 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 10 recs
wonderful recap. Rec'd
This comment should be traded for an unfortunate unpredictable aortic aneurysm (Green).
I will also say that this shows that when given the opportunity, good sense buoyed by luck is the key. Picking Evans and Cousins was good sense (the draft position was not in their favor). Now the Kings need the luck to grab that next piece. And that means placing themselves in the position to heighten their chance to do so (ping pong balls galore, aka losing)..
by betweentheeyes on Jan 29, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
Who knew that Hawes would turn out to arguably be the best of that bunch?
I know, I know, small sample size. Still.
by VenomySnicket on Jan 29, 2012 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
Lets see if Hawes can keep his numbers up all season
But still think Noah is the better defender, rebounder. He just isn’t worth his 12mil per year.
by sac_faithful on Jan 29, 2012 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
Hawes? Ummmmm . . .
“If your point guard is averaging 25 pts. the team might not flow”
“The Kings might need Tyreke to score 25 a night-” Ummmmm . . .
Something doesn't add up
That is the $84 million question (the approximate size of the extension Evans is playing for).
vs.
Coming into Saturday night’s game against the Utah Jazz, Evans had scored just 11 points per game over his previous seven contests. During that stretch, Evans shot a dreadful 32% from the field. Sure, he still averaged six rebounds and 5.4 assists over that stretch, but his team was just 2-5 and struggling mightily on the offensive end.
I’m not sure how many years that “$84-million extension” covers, but it seems to be way beyond what Tyreke’s play has merited. Frankly, he’s going to have to become a much more consistent player and the Kings are also going to have to show improvement for him to get an extension, period.
"His D was a difference at the end."
If he continues to struggle I think a max extension is out of the question
but just giving him the qualifying offer and making him a RFA is silly to me. The stretches he goes through where he dominates for 4-5 games in a row illustrate the ability to do it on a consistent basis. You don’t gamble with that kind of talent just because of some struggles while still on a rookie contract.
by sac_faithful on Jan 29, 2012 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
I would give Tyreke the 4 year extension, not 5
Solely based on the fact that if we give Tyreke the 5 year extension, then we can only give DMC a 4 year extension and they both become UFA’s at the same time.
Do not do what Minnesota did. Kevin Love’s opt out, Adelman’s contract, and Rubio’s rookie deal are all up after the same season.
"First we get jobs, then we get the khakis, then we get the chicks."
True
So Gallinari just extended four years for $42 million. Is Tyreke worth that much if he plays the rest of the season like he has played so far: flashes of brilliance mixed with regular bouts of disappearance?
"His D was a difference at the end."
I don't think we have to lock him up before the start of next year
I would prefer to see how much improvement he shows after the offseason.
Right now he is consistently playing better basketball from what I have seen. His jump shot is still a disaster. If he fixed that, I think 4/42 is a steal.
That was a fantastic article.
Huge props to CK for that one.
by LightningStrike5 on Jan 29, 2012 10:17 PM PST reply actions
play tyreke at sf since thomas and fredette r flourishing
evans will be able to make a mark on d. playin him at the three will make it much harder for teams other sfs to beat us up on fast breaks. were losing anyway. try it out for 1 whole game w evans playing 30 min at the sf position and see what materializes. peskier defender and probably an elite help defender with more range at the three.
play tyreke at sf since thomas and fredette r flourishing
evans will be able to make a mark on d. playin him at the three will make it much harder for teams other sfs to beat us up on fast breaks. were losing anyway. try it out for 1 whole game w evans playing 30 min at the sf position and see what materializes. peskier defender and probably an elite help defender with more range at the three.
flourishing is defined by shooting at least 40%
35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.
Jimmer/IT point, Reke off guard or 3
Kobe, LeBron, D Wade, Jordan, etc all superstars all with comparable size and athleticism and none of them played the point. Imagine if Jimmer ever got his confidence and ended up something like S Nash. Evans would actually be better and you’d get distribution plus the ability to score from the point with Jimmer. You always would have IT for a bench spark at PG and Tyreke could develop his superstardom from the wing just like the superstars listed above. What’s the risk the Kings are in transistion now and not going to the playoffs what better way to experiment. Also Reke at the 3 would lessen the horrendus play of Salmons at that position. He needs to be gone, he’s played very very badly.
Steve Nash really?
Yes & Tyreke will turn into Lebron & Cousins will turn into Dwight Howard.
by Allbenji on Jan 30, 2012 10:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
BaZinga, nice come back
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