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Bitching about Westphal

I'm watching this Memphis game and starting to hope... no, pray, that Paul Westphal is let go by the Kings. Sooner, rather than later, please. I'm going to outline my bitchings in an unclever list of bullet points. I don't have the time to do a lot of statistical analysis here, but I desperately need to vent. If you're into that, have fun, join me, and post your thoughts below. If you aren't, then by all means, just check out now. These are qualitative, not quantitative, so I'm curious if you guys agree or disagree with my ocular evaluation.


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I like Paul Westphal. I do. Seems like such a nice guy. I really hoped that he'd bring some credibility to the franchise and for a short time, I feel that he did. Let's not forget that he resurrected Beno Udrih's career after the worst year he'd ever had ('08-'09). But he just can't compete with the coaches he's facing each night. He can't orchestrate an offense that gets his players open shots. And obviously, he can't control this team.

As I'm watching:

-What the hell is this offense? Every time down court, the ball is brought up left or right, then fed to a big man above the key (where they are largely useless), then swung to the other side of the court. Every effing time! What exactly does this accomplish? Are we freaking the defense out by swinging the ball before initiating each play, or are we just wasting 5 seconds of every shot clock? Is something useful materializing with cutters while the big guy holds the ball up top? Did we just sign Webber and Vlade in their primes and I didn't get the memo? That high-post passer worked great in 2002, but that offense actually had a step 2 and step 3 after getting the ball there. This offense doesn't seem to have anything but a high pick-and-roll and a contested shot at the basket. To his credit, he seems to have gotten guys to cut back on jab-step-jumper-with-a-guy-in-your-face. But the shots at the rim aren't falling because there is no spacing or ball movement.

-I think J.J. Hickson is decent, but have you guys been comparing him to Jason Thompson so far this year? It's not even close, IMO. Jason has elevated his game. He's making good decisions around the basket and rebounding reasonably well, and most importantly, seems to keep his cool and keep hitting his shots when the team is falling into a chasm (which is often). JJ takes too many long shots, and isn't very good at hitting them, and I prefer Jason's defense.

-Similar issue at the SF position. How on earth is Travis Outlaw a better option off the bench than Francisco??? It seems like this team has just given up on Francisco, even though he's like, the most popular guy on the team (specifically for DMC and Tyreke, our troubled stars), is a better defender than Outlaw (again, IMO), and is a pretty good shooter. We've been frustrated with his decision making over the years, but has anybody been pleased with Outlaw's decision making, or for that matter, his shooting? Hasn't he shot like 4 for 374 on the year (all numbers approximated). Oh yeah, and Outlaw had like, 30 minutes of practice time with the team before the season opener. This makes sense because?...

-This offense does not utilize its shooters well. It seems like we do not have a play for a good shooter to curl around a screen or two for a catch and shoot at the elbow, or from three. Any time Jimmer is in the game he's either at the 3-point line hoping for a pass out of a double-team, or initiating the offense for himself. Remember how we used Peja? For YEARS? And then we did it in small doses with Kevin Martin and Francisco? This team seems to look for cutters (usually fails), then does a pick and roll. And that's IT. I like pick and rolls, really, I do. But there is no variety to this offense. Jimmer, Francisco, Outlaw, Salmons, these guys should be flying back and forth on the baseline, trying to pop out for jumpers. Either there is no provision in Westphal's shitty offense for this novel idea, or the players feel no confidence in our "point guards" to pass them the ball for their efforts.

-And DeMarcus. Dear lord. He's in better shape, he's got a much better (on-court) demeanor, and yet he's played awful. Many would argue that that is just on DeMarcus. I disagree. I rarely see him put into a position where he can succeed. Watching the offense function, I do not believe that it really encourages getting DeMarcus down deep on the block where he can draw double-teams. He's either on the high-post (with no cutters), or about 9 feet from the basket where's he's got to back somebody down a heck of a long ways to get himself a decent look at the basket. JJ Hickson is NOT better than DMC. Offense aside, DMC has drawn like, two charges per game and has been blocking guys at the rim. JJ's offense is perfect off the bench, too. For him to pretend that his benching of DMC tonight was about basketball decisions is ridiculous. It's punishment. JJ played OK, but let's not get carried away. Pulling DMC from the starting lineup is a mistake.

-Isaiah needs to play more. And I'm not just saying that because of what he was doing at the end of the Memphis game. He should have been playing more all along. And it should come at the expense of Jimmer. I know that Jimmer needs minutes to develop. But he's getting a TON of minutes. He looks shaky on offense and his defense is awful (tries hard, but still awful). Isaiah is battle-tested and obviously ready for the limelight. He looks confident and aggressive at all times. His shooting has been solid and his defense is stellar (despite his size). Jimmer could be at 15 minutes a night instead of 25 and I'd be plenty happy with his chances to develop. Jimmer looked great in garbage time tonight as well, bu overall he's been getting big minutes in tough situations that he doesn't necessarily need at this point.

I understand that players stop listening to their coach sometimes. Maybe Westphal is saying all the right things at practice and the guys just aren't buying in. Or maybe it's as I've suggested, the guy just can't coach (at least not at this level). But regardless of whether it's A or B, isn't it time to try something new? Gotta start somewhere. Even if the solution is jettisoning Tyreke and DMC, can't we implement a better offense, light a fire under them, and try to raise their all-time-low trade value? Am I excited about Keith Smart? Ugh, no. But at this point I'd rather Grant Napear coach the team than Westphal, and that guy eats KITTENS!

Okay, rant over. Go ahead and rip it apart. It's what you animals do best.

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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Huh?
Go ahead and rip it apart. It’s what you animals do best.


I don’t know what you’re talking about.

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by section214 on Jan 3, 2012 8:48 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

It's ironic that your name is grantnapeareats kittens...

yet you go on a long drawn out rant then end it with “okay, rant over”

Makes me wonder hmmm….

:)

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by prowseinthehouse on Jan 3, 2012 9:01 PM PST reply actions  

why not jerry sloan

Former Jazz coach Jerry Sloan, who was inducted, along with his longtime assistant Phil Johnson and others, into the Utah Sports Hall of Fame Wednesday night, is leaving open the possibility that he will someday return to coaching.

"I’ll just see what happens," Sloan said, according to the Salt Lake Tribune. "If there’s interest, there is. If there’s no interest, that’s fine, too."

The statement marks a change of attitude for Sloan, who, in April, denied he was considering a return, and in May, declined an opportunity to interview for the Warriors vacancy.

In a move that surprised many, Sloan abruptly left the Jazz in February and was replaced by Tyrone Corbin. He is third among coaches all-time with 1,221 regular-season wins.

Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2011-11-17/jerry-sloan-hints-hes-open-to-returning-to-coaching#ixzz1iUwNYbuh

by Beer_man on Jan 4, 2012 6:03 AM PST reply actions  

Sloan is a great coach

But he might say “hell no!” to having to coach Cousins

by Allbenji on Jan 4, 2012 7:09 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

How about a basketball version of the 49ers Harbaugh?

Maybe we should do what the 49ers did, and bring up a college coach? I would think someone that has experience and success dealing with today’s players could do wonders for the team. Young with a lot of energy, and knowing they need to step up to stay in the league would be a great motivation.

by reppin530 on Jan 4, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Totally agree about Hickson and Outlaw

I think Hickson could be very valuable if we could get him closer to the rim. He needs to catch a lob for once. The crap happening on the court doesn’t allow that… Instead he takes jumpers, which he is absolutely terrible at. If we are going to play like this, we need JT in the game.

Outlaw is just embarrassing. I’d rather see Donte or Cisco get his minutes, and NEVER want to see him at PF. Even though he hit some shots last night, I’ve seen him take some bad shots and get rebounded over by smaller players. It’s sickening.

by Steevo on Jan 4, 2012 9:18 AM PST reply actions  

Rec'd for the title alone.

"DeMarcus pounds, like the hammer. Tyreke slashes, like the sickle.
For the good of the proletariat!" - tomroadrunner

by Ice_9ine on Jan 4, 2012 9:57 AM PST reply actions  

If you think Westphal has a hard time relating to young players....

I can’t imagine what Grant would be like as the coach.

"DeMarcus pounds, like the hammer. Tyreke slashes, like the sickle.
For the good of the proletariat!" - tomroadrunner

by Ice_9ine on Jan 4, 2012 10:00 AM PST reply actions  

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the all the talk of the coaches we could get if Westphal was fired futile?

I can not remember an instance where a new coach, not previously on a team’s staff, was hired after a midseason firing.

Don’t all indications point to Keith Smart if Westphal is fired, and waiting until the offseason to consider a new hire?

by brianspider on Jan 4, 2012 10:01 AM PST reply actions  

Everyone needs to be punished

by making them stay put this year. If the fans have to watch this freakshow play out every other night, then the parties involved need to have their careers tainted by it as well. All are to blame and – frankly – can all find new homes next year.

But they need to be forced to figure it out like they wear big-boy pants.

How about instead of Sloan, the team just runs the pick-and-roll for 48 minutes. Can’t screw that up, right? At least they might be able to learn how to run a single play over and over…

Nothing is always anything.

by Docile Ocelot on Jan 4, 2012 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

Agree with most of your take

Don’t agree that DeMarcus hasn’t been in a position to succeed. He’s just shooting terribly right now. He seems to be making a conscious effort not to jack up a lot of jump shots like last season. He’s missing a lot in the paint and at the rim, but he’s taking most of his shots there. The shooting percentage should correct itself, and he needs to keep taking the types of shots he’s taking.

To throw some numbers at you:

58% of his shots (according to 82games.com) so far this season have been “Inside.” His eFG% on those shots is a miserable 35.5%. This is exactly where we want him to be doing his work, unfortunately he’s just missing.

Last year, only 39% of his shots were “Inside” but he shot an eFG% of 58.8%. 61% of his shots were jump-shots, and his eFG% was only 33% on those shots.

His shot selection has improved greatly, unfortunately, he’s just missing the good shots he’s taking. I expect this trend to reverse itself over the course of the season.

The devil is dryhumping the details - Tom Ziller

by rpmonkey on Jan 4, 2012 10:09 AM PST reply actions  

Preach

Nothing is always anything.

by Docile Ocelot on Jan 4, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Just a guess

But I think that DeMarcus is being told to stay out of the paint to draw defenders away from the basket so that Tyreke can drive and (allegedly) dish.

Even though the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas!

by LeaguePassAddict on Jan 4, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

But it doesn't work.

Everyone knows that if Tyreke is driving to the rim, he is unlikely to pass it out, and if he does, he’s not going to pass it to DeMarcus, because Cousins has no outside shot. So defenders cheat off of him, and Evans runs into the defenders in the paint, turning the ball over. Sometimes while falling to the floor.

We REALLY need a better playbook.

Even though the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas!

by LeaguePassAddict on Jan 4, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Quite frankly, I think I'd rather see him work on his perimeter shot and facilitation from the top of the key

I don’t hold out hope that he’s ever gonna be great converting around the basket. He’s not athletic enough.

If he can become a decent perimeter shooter that goes inside occasionally, while facilitating the offense a bit, rebounding and playing defense – he might have a nice little career going for himself.

"I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!" - Michael Scott

by otis29 on Jan 4, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

The last thing I want is for him to think he’s Dirk. His shot looks great when it goes in, unfortunately that isn’t very often. If he puts the same amount of effort into getting to the rim as he does to his rebounding, I think there is a high probability of him becoming a menace around the basket. He showed last year that he can finish around the basket even if there was room for improvement. I think he’s just going through a slump right now, I have a lot of confidence that his miserable shooting will work itself out.

The devil is dryhumping the details - Tom Ziller

by rpmonkey on Jan 4, 2012 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it's a waste of time

If I thought he’d work his ass off physically to get strong, I might agree with you. This isn’t college, these are grown ass men he’s dealing with down low.

"I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!" - Michael Scott

by otis29 on Jan 4, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

just because they are "close" doesn't mean they are good and it doesn't mean he'll start making a lot of them

he is unathletic and his go to move is “run through the defender’s chest”.

a 3 foot shot for him with a 7 footer in his way is a low percentage shot.

he has not yet figured out that he is not playing against a 6’5" kid in a Mobile high school. until he adjusts his game to the NBA he is going to continue to be a very inefficient player.

by lchristmas on Jan 4, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Haven't seen a lot of bad shots out of him this year

From what I’ve seen, most of his shots have been good looks, and he’s just missed. I don’t know that I’ve seen someone miss as many layups as he has this season.

I agree that he’s not the most athletic guy, but he’s a lot quicker than most of the players he’s going up against. He has a great first step, and mainly needs to learn not to hook his man when he makes that move to the basket.

The devil is dryhumping the details - Tom Ziller

by rpmonkey on Jan 4, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

The team just needs time to gel

3 new starters this year (Thornton, Hayes, Salmons), plus 4 new bench players (Hickson, Jimmer, Outlaw, Thomas).

Shots will fall, passes will be made. The FT shooting has already gotten better. The lockout has hit this team hard. A team that has also faced a pretty tough set of teams to start the season.

I mean I was hoping for a little more semblance of cohesion by now, but I am not at the point where I am up to make player/coaching changes yet.

"First we get jobs, then we get the khakis, then we get the chicks."

by Wonderchild on Jan 4, 2012 11:09 AM PST reply actions  

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