Kings 83, Nuggets 110: We've Seen This Movie Before
by Aykis16 on Jan 4, 2012 8:48 PM PST
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PrintThis is getting to the point where I almost need to create a template for these recaps and just fill in the blanks. Once more the Kings face a team missing it's best player (I "joked" pre-game that without Nene we'd lose by 30), and end up getting blown out. No one person on the Nuggets stood out, although Al Harrington led Denver with 15 points. It was an ultimate team effort by them, and they killed the Kings in transition (31 fast break points) and in the paint (62 points in the paint). The Nuggets had 31 assists on 46 made baskets, while the Kings had yet another game with more turnovers (16) than assists (12).
DeMarcus Cousins had his best game of the season by far for the Kings, scoring 26 points on 9-12 shooting in just 25 minutes while also playing decently on the defensive end. About the only thing he didn't do well was rebound (only 3 rebounds) and the team as a whole was killed on the boards by Denver (49 to 37). This might be explained by the fact that Denver scored 60.5% of their shots while the Kings managed a paltry 32.6%. Aside from Cousins, Marcus Thornton was the only one able to get anything going, scoring 23 on 8-20 shooting. Take those two players away, and the Kings only shot 13 of 60 or 21.6%. Let that sink in for a moment.
Tyreke Evans only played 23 minutes and missed most of the 2nd half after throwing up during halftime, likely because he watched some first half highlights (H/T Heuristic Lineup).
This team looks lost out there. They give up way too easily and it just seems like they aren't putting in maximum effort. Even when Denver emptied out their bench at the end of the game, they continued to build up their lead and play with energy. You could say the Kings are suffering from tired legs, playing their 4th game in 5 nights, and while I believe that's an issue for some (particularly the rookies who really struggled with their shot tonight), I think the bigger issue is that the team at large isn't putting forth 100% effort, and that is a major problem.
Paul Westphal is a good person. I've met him a few times and I've come away with good impressions. But as of now, I don't think he is the coach this team needs or wants. The team needs a breath of fresh air, a new outlook, and Westphal is not bringing it. I don't know how successful an interim coach like Keith Smart or even a new hire (which rarely happens mid-season) can be, particularly with the compressed season and little practice time, but at this point, I think you have to try.
The start to this season has been more frustrating to me than any season in recent memory. We weren't supposed to be this bad. I don't think most fans thought we'd be contenders or even necessarily in the playoff hunt, but at least be competitive night in and night out. Especially after the craziness of last season and the relocation issue, and then the months of no basketball due to the lockout, I, as well as many other fans, were so pumped up for the Kings to be returning to Sacramento and to hopefully begin their rise to relevance once more. Instead it looks like our annual tradition of getting screwed in the lottery will continue for the foreseeable future.
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That is all.
Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."
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Where do I sign the petition?
Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."
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by section214 on Jan 4, 2012 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 13 recs
Upon hearing this request, Joe and George and Gavin had a meeting...
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by SierraSpartan on Jan 4, 2012 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 12 recs
And they decided to
go without whores until they could afford a new head coach.
Norm
by EJ08 on Jan 4, 2012 9:24 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
They tried but just couldn't do it
The boys had another meeting and decided to go with cheaper whores until they saved up enough for a new coach. So it might take longer now.
Norm
by EJ08 on Jan 4, 2012 9:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Not trying to pile on, but this is my therapy
by wallywagon11 on Jan 4, 2012 8:51 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
The burger or what he did before the burger?
by SharkKings49 on Jan 4, 2012 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
Westphal is Looking Pretty Trapped Right Now...
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 8:52 PM PST reply actions 9 recs
My God! It's not full of stars...
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by SierraSpartan on Jan 4, 2012 8:58 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Sounds like...
Westphal’s rude awakening to the season.
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
You've reached he end of your journey, Paul
Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."
Whoa he blinks
I thought this was just a still image for the longest while.
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Heh, Yep
The eyes blink and move slightly. :P.
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
cool looking website you yanked that from
by wallywagon11 on Jan 4, 2012 9:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yup :)
One of my friends is involved with it, and a huge Kubrick fan. No better movies.
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
I think I'm going to have to start making some gifs for this season, however.
If this keeps up I’d run out by the end of the week.
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
and from the movie
Look Dave, I can see you’re really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over
by betweentheeyes on Jan 4, 2012 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
Plus ones
For the Kubrick references we can apply to this.
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
Well, God knows
We all could use something to gather around and get excited about.
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 9:26 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Paulie... Paulie... Give me your answer do,
I’m half crazy thanks to you. It won’t be a stylish marriage – you can’t afford DMC’s baggage. But you’d look sweet, on the street, after we fire you.
by athletics68 on Jan 4, 2012 11:20 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Oh sweet Jesus he blinked
"Cousins is the Blaster to Evans’ Master, the Hammer to Evans’ Sickle"- HP
by tomroadrunner on Jan 5, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
This is some tragic comedy we are living in as Kings fan. It's an absurd situation.
Last night I was ready to trade DMC. I was angry.
I have had a change of heart, however. (Shout out to omikron)
DMC needs to stay.
It’s all about Westphal right now. He has to go, IMMEDIATELY.
We will never get to see the potentials of any of our players reached until we replace the coach.
"If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well
It were done quickly..."
by Ichiban on Jan 4, 2012 8:53 PM PST reply actions 7 recs
I think your points were ever more clear with tonight's game.
DMC played well. Was clearly not the cancer PW would like everyone to believe. What was left was a reflection on the Coach.
Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."
by Slam_Dunk on Jan 4, 2012 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't have a problem benching a player for insubordination,
but when Hayes isn’t giving a full effort the picture becomes more clear.
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
by nothingbutnet on Jan 4, 2012 9:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Its ok guys we can win tomorow tomorow cousins will get 40 points because today he got 27 for 25 minutes so tomorow he will play for 35 or 40 minutes so yeah at least cousins will decimate our opponents tomorow.
If he doesn't foul out.
Leads the league in fouls presently
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
by nothingbutnet on Jan 4, 2012 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
OK - Why did Ziller give Tyreke food poisonng?
see today’s pre game write up: Kings vs. Nuggets: THROW ( N ) UP ?
by betweentheeyes on Jan 4, 2012 8:56 PM PST reply actions 14 recs
That was the secret code.
Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."
lol - that's two in a row for TZ!
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iashwash, you are the voice of reason - Holmdel
He has already been amnestied
twice
by betweentheeyes on Jan 4, 2012 10:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
So we have a Lingerer?
I hate lingerers man…
"I have talent that's there, but I just have the mentality right now that I just want to be the greatest. And I don't think that any other player has that right now." -DeMarcus Cousins
by Noble_Bloodlines on Jan 5, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
WTF is this?
I made one post and now it’s two?
"I have talent that's there, but I just have the mentality right now that I just want to be the greatest. And I don't think that any other player has that right now." -DeMarcus Cousins
by Noble_Bloodlines on Jan 5, 2012 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
I just don't know what to say or do anymore,
Frustrating isn’t man enough of a word to describe the wretchedness of watching these games. I wish I was the kind of fan that could just turn the fucking TV off.
I'm not that type of fan.
But this team has made me value my time a bit more.
by VenomySnicket on Jan 4, 2012 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not normally that type of fan either
I watched most of 3 quarters. Then fashioned a crude medal out of an old beer can and awarded it to myself for leaving it on that long.
Side note: how many excreable passes do I have to watch chuck hayes throw until I can break my tv when peaches refers to him as “normally a very good passer?”
by lchristmas on Jan 4, 2012 10:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The wife came in with dinner
I said “Ohhh, You don’t want to watch this”
She “You’re right”
Somehow I watched the rest later in the night.
"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
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by lietothegirls on Jan 5, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Hey we still have a game tomorrow.
I bet you we will be blown out once again and the whole team will throw up
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Dear Jimmer and Co.
Enough with the embarrassing blowouts. We get it. You wanted to prove everyone wrong that said you’d be good this year. Mission accomplished.
You can stop now.
Sincerely,
Everyone.
by public_enemy on Jan 4, 2012 8:58 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
This was Jimmer's mission?
35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.
No one is good under Westphal. NO ONE.
"If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well
It were done quickly..."
Remember when we used to try? Those were the days....
by Makdeeznut on Jan 4, 2012 8:59 PM PST reply actions 9 recs
Why you keep bringing up old stuff?
35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.
Cause those were the days....
and im sorry to say but your Kings predictions are not looking so good…..
It'll be a helluva finish
right now 33 and 26 should do it
35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.
I am pretty sure I said 24 wins
and a little hope followed by massive failure and a late season improvement. However, didn’t expect the hope to consist of just opening night.
To use our usual hot chick metaphors
This is like you landed a great and successful date with Ms. Turkey and ever since girls like Mindy Cohn have been refusing dates and trashing you.
35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.
For no other reason than it makes me laugh -
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by section214 on Jan 4, 2012 9:00 PM PST reply actions 11 recs
Dont forget Van Damme in Breakin'
The endless pounding.
A hole, blacker than despair.
John Salmons is back.
by twasserm on Jun 23, 2011
by Dirkula on Jan 4, 2012 9:10 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
You are stupid for that lol
That is one of the funniest thing i have ever seen
by Jacinto Freddie Martinez on Jan 4, 2012 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
Remmeber when this team passed and got people open and easy shots…contested jumpers the whole fkn game. we pass once, dribble around and take contested shots.
Ah, it certainly is good to have Salmons back, isn't it?
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Watching a Kings game is like staring at this:
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by LiquidPolio on Jan 4, 2012 9:03 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Looks like its counting our opponents fast breaks
35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.
Westphal is obviously done now
I feel bad for him, but it’s time. I was thinking they could just let Smart take over now, but since there never was really a training camp – why not just spend on a big time coach now. Jeff Van Gundy seems like he would be a great teacher for these young guys. Don’t see Jerry Sloan coming out of retirement for this mess, which is worse than the one that made him retire.
@dampania
Smart's salary is already on the books
He gets the call if/when Westphal is fired.
West Virginia football could potentially score more than us
says it all
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by The Crown Royal Gentleman on Jan 4, 2012 9:07 PM PST reply actions 7 recs
I'm going to keep it until we get 25 assists in a game
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by The Crown Royal Gentleman on Jan 4, 2012 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
well ...
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It may be a minute.
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by The Crown Royal Gentleman on Jan 4, 2012 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
At least Baron Davis has something....check link
http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/01/04/charlotte-observer-baron-davis-has-a-herniated-dick/
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Gotta love our 2011/2012 Washington Generals!
My favorite plays were when Birdman showered Westfal with a bucket of confetti and Gallinari pulled Jason Thompsons shorts down… Gets me every time! Go Generals!
by paleface on Jan 4, 2012 9:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions
There's no place like home, there is no place like home.
Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."
Westphal Post Game:
“I believe that we will bounce back…the avalanche just fell on us.”
I lurves cinnamon whiskey.
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 9:09 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Hah, I know.
It’s the only time I’ve felt like drinking for a Kings game. Exaggerating slightly, but where the hell has our team gone??
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
None taken. I usually take Jamison straight up, but
I felt like it would be a waste on this game.
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
Is it too late…
To jump on the fire Westphal bandwagon? And if not where can I board?
by Tricky-Nicky on Jan 4, 2012 9:10 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Its never too late but
you have to call GP’s number first and ask him to join
"I did not demand a Trade, the Trade Machine did" - Awesome
Fire PW NOW!!!!
DMC is having a good season in my opinion. Good D, taking charges, less complaining, decent FT%….horrible FG%…until tonight. I feel bad for him because he has been getting absolutely hacked this season and can’t get a call. Finally got some calls tonight, thank god :-P
Oh well…we might win 15 games at this rate.
My thoughts exactly
No mikev, no peace
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by Mike Garza on Jan 4, 2012 9:11 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
Wow, amazed
that so many still think the poor play is the coach’s fault. Not getting back on D, turnovers and missed shots. DMC’s poor play was coaches fault before the game started but he played well so…. How does canning a coach and having an interim coach help?
Save it for the show tomorrow, Grant.
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by Mike Garza on Jan 4, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Sorry Peaches, the Coaching was Just...
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 9:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Give it up Paul, you're done!
And besides, you don’t really have to come here & convince us. We don’t make the decisions.
by Allbenji on Jan 4, 2012 9:21 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I think if the Kings had a real offensive gameplan
Turnovers would decrease, an they would actually get better shots, causing the FG% to go up. This would also help cut down on the amount of times they have to get back on D.
First time poster here
I think a new coach would definitely help. I understand that the coach doesn’t stop them from playing defense, or turnovers, but it would be nice to see a coach actually hold these players accountable. What does he say when he takes timeouts? Hes obviously not motivating anyone to play better. Also i realize he can’t pass the ball himself, but if there is any type of offense in place he doesn’t seem to upset when his players don’t run it. We need someone that actually has a play book. All these players had a more advanced offense in college.
by Black&Purple4Ever on Jan 4, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
All these players had a more advanced offense in college
lol
by henryclemente on Jan 5, 2012 6:06 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
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by The Crown Royal Gentleman on Jan 4, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
But we didn't get 25 assists. The Tagline lives on.
If we get it tomorrow it’ll be thanks to The Bucks Guard, Beno Udrih, becuase no ones expects….. us to get 25 assists. Seriously.
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Thanks Exhibit G!!
I would not expect that.
Let’s hope the Yeti doesn’t disappoint.
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by The Crown Royal Gentleman on Jan 4, 2012 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
You should add a dribble for every game where we don't.
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Here you go:
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by Aykis16 on Jan 4, 2012 9:17 PM PST up reply actions 12 recs
If the Kings were a comment on StR
I’d flag them for trolling.
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by Aykis16 on Jan 4, 2012 9:22 PM PST reply actions 12 recs
As of now, no.
Also GBU will be on Saturday this week due to the early game on Sunday.
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The only good you could possibly do is that ummm crap..i think my brain just exploded from trying to think of one…
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At least...
Everyone managed to show up for the game in the right uniforms.
Moral victory!
by misterbrister on Jan 5, 2012 7:04 AM PST up reply actions
And i'd reply
And hope for some rec’s. cuz that team makes me green.
by VenomySnicket on Jan 4, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
So Milwaukee tomorrow night at the end of a back-to-back-to-back
And they are already in town with a day off? Yikes!
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Let's just hope that their best player isn't injured...
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I am pretty sure Drew Gooden through up a 20/20 night too in his absence
seems like a lot of 20/20 nights this year. Must be a lot of missed shots and offensive boards in the early going
Apparently the Milwaukee Journal has ruled Bogut out for tomorrow
He’s back home… in Australia. Wow. How crazy is this start for the Kings. No Bynum for the Lakers (won), no Amare for the Knicks (blowout loss), no Gordon for the Clippers (won), no Randolph for Memphis (blowout loss), no Nene for Denver (blowout loss), no Bogut for Milwaukee (to be determined)
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Hornets
I too love E Gordon but he is no longer a Clip. CP told me this
by betweentheeyes on Jan 4, 2012 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
This is like us whenever we get within 15 points... and the card is the lead.
I’ve never, ever seen a team that can’t get some sort of offensive flow going, ever. And when a team goes on a run, is impossible to stop. I dread our rematch against LA at Staples….and I was thinking of going to that that game :(.
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Terrible
It is bad, but not terrible to be 2 and 4 considering last year’s record of the teams we played, but to loose so badly is awful. I have not checked the actual statistical record, but Evans is not playing as well as he played when he was healthy last year and Thornton is not playing as well as he played with the Kings last year. My guess is that no other player is playing as well as they played last year except maybe Jason Thompson.
Westphal has never come close to having the winning record Theus had, but the local radio and newspaper columnists are not commenting negatively on Westphal.
I hate to do this after only 6 games, but if the Kings do not improve in the next ten games, Westphal has to go right away. I don’t care who takes over. I want something better. The Kings have too much talent to have this offensive incompetence.
Carlji
Are you going to be
One of those people who keeps saying “We’ll do better next season?”
It’s been 3 years. There needs to be some damn improvement to this team.
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 9:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Equally frustrated
But can a new coach actually teach them how to hit all those open shots they missed? If the Kings fire Westphal, they lose him as an excuse for their failure on the court. They’re not ready for that grenade.
Nothing is always anything.
by Docile Ocelot on Jan 4, 2012 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
Trade
Tyreke for Rubio!!!!
id rather go through this than go through the Anaheim BS again. I honestly think this team is missing a table setter. But I still think this team will do some things this year.
I’m rambling.
Boobies.
formerly what_the_crap
by Dub_TC on Jan 4, 2012 9:35 PM PST via Android app reply actions
I saw
David Thorpe say a few days ago that maybe they should have drafted Rubio instead since theyre lacking a true passer. I think it was him.
formerly what_the_crap
by Dub_TC on Jan 4, 2012 9:46 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
I still remember either Hollinger or chad ford say something like
Tyreke will look like a better pick the 1st 2 years, because he’s NBA ready, but the Kings will regret it in 3 years…..or something like that
As much as I dislike them
They have been pretty spot on about our players and GP’s moves the last 5 years
Sadly, homerism is part of being a fan.
We’re only realizing now that the players we thought were saviors are seriously, seriously flawed.
yup, remember that too
but remember, Rubio had his mom help cut his steak. So clearly, we couldn’t draft him.
Adelman would
laugh in our faces.
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
Our first round draft pick next season should draw great value though!
Oh, wait…
"I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!" - Michael Scott
Looks like we are guaranteed to keep that 1
35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.
Naw
I think there is only 3 sips of 6 day old warm beer in it
35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.
I gave you a shoutout towards the top of th page.
I was wrong about DMC.
"If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well
It were done quickly..."
by Ichiban on Jan 4, 2012 9:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
True
But I don’t think the Kings would trade Tyreke for Rubio either. Tyreke is still better than Rubio. He’s just has a terrible coach, unlike Rubio. If Rubio had to play for Rambis or westphal he would have ran back to Europe.
by Allbenji on Jan 4, 2012 9:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
well
in a nutshell, we suck. We have no interior defense. I like chuck hayes, but i really dont understand the signing. I would rather have sammy. I dont understand why we just didnt slightly overpay for him. He only signed a 7 million per with the rockets. we finished last year strong. We knew the combo of dmc and dally worked. you can tell me we couldn’t of offered sammy 2 years ay 10 million per and he wouldn’t have taken it. What would you rather have sammy or hayes and outlaw. And salmons blows my fucking mind. I really have no idea why they made that trade,
We offered him more money than any other team
And he didn’t sign with us. So, that’s why we don’t have Dally.
Only after we refused to offer him an extension before the lockout,
and we went after Hayes. I don’t know if anyone but the FO knows if we truly made Sam and offer before we voided Hayes contract.
But, you could be right, i can’t see anyone willing to come here the way things have gone.
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by prowseinthehouse on Jan 4, 2012 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
I still want to see another 15-20 games
I’m not ready to give up on this group yet.
I miss Big Mike and his Arco Thunder monologue.
If nothing changes you'd be watching another 15-20 games of what we've seen in games 2-7
Sadly, they’ve already given up. Make changes now, while the season is still young.
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Who is giving up?
We all have each other to commiserate with, I mean misery loves company right? I’m going to the game tomorrow! I best medicate myself through and through.
I think they have to
Because the teams they play in the next couple weeks are not pushovers.
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I'm glad I went to the store at halftime
and I only have a mild headache instead of the full on migraine I normally get from watching the entire game
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by prowseinthehouse on Jan 4, 2012 9:44 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Is it fair to ask the question now
Has Paul Westphal lost the team?
"I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!" - Michael Scott
Is it fair to ask...
Did he ever have the team?
I think one of the positives for Westphal
Is the effort the team has been giving him, even while playing poorly.
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I didn't see much effort tonight
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by Aykis16 on Jan 4, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
For another pick me up, I found this one funny
"Smelling the cork from an open bottle of wine is like smelling a woman's ass before you make love to her"
Miles from the novel "Sideways"
by A Night At The Arco on Jan 4, 2012 9:45 PM PST reply actions 13 recs
.... you didn't actually rec it. No one did.
The trick is not just saying “Rec’d” :)
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It were done quickly..."
At least we have Whiteside...so why not play the dude strategically (ha!) in spots just to swat
balls and snare rebounds? This team lacks inside presence among its other deficits. But alas we must also consider that the basketball gods are very angry with us. We have done something to create this bad JuJu. A sacrificial offering is the only thing that will placate them and change the mojo. Any suggestions?
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He's in the D-League.
Same with Honeycutt. They should both be there, getting actual playing time.
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Maybe this can make us feel better?
Ladies. Lots of them.
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 9:50 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Needz moar Diogu!
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by otis29 on Jan 4, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
But Diogu gets...
All the women.
We’re going to need one Kings dancer for each of us. From the auditions, otherwise there won’t be enough to go around.
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 9:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It seems to me
That this roster needs a wake up call, and a coaching change will help that. None of these players have grown or become better in their time with this awful coach. The fact that they haven’t been competitive in these losses show that this team isn’t being coached. I’m sorry if we were to be competitive and lose every game I’d have a better taste in my mouth than I do now. No tyreke reference intended
by Black&Purple4Ever on Jan 4, 2012 9:52 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Maybe best potential
Thortons been our best player which is a dissapointment.
by SharkKings49 on Jan 4, 2012 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
Not our best player IMO
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard!
- Wooden
by Get Jimmered on Jan 4, 2012 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
Still want to keep Cousins
You don’t trade him in his second year of rookie deal.
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I really don't think cousins is the issue
No one on this team is playing for westphal
by Black&Purple4Ever on Jan 4, 2012 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
I think just need to learn to work as a team
New coach may help
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by A Night At The Arco on Jan 4, 2012 9:57 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
That's how Cisco got hurt
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by section214 on Jan 4, 2012 10:13 PM PST up reply actions 8 recs
Guys, guys, guys
It’s ok. at least we have Hassan Whiteside.
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by Dub_TC on Jan 4, 2012 9:57 PM PST via Android app reply actions
Not Ok
Because he’s in Reno
If I was in a room with Bin Laden, Hitler, and Robert Horry, and I had a gun with two bullets, I'd shoot Robert Horry twice.
Neither one played last night
??
...Watching DeMarcus Cousins’ transformation from large human to immortal kill beast...
honestly
WTF…happened to the tyreke we saw his rookie year. he doesnt do any of that shit anymore
Paul Westphal Happened.
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 9:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That happens
When you have a terrible coach who has no plays that play to the strength of the players. First year he played on skill, it’s the coaches job to help build on that
by Black&Purple4Ever on Jan 4, 2012 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
The first year might be what put him at a disadvantage
PW gave him free rain to do whatever he wanted, treated him like he was the next Kobe. He wasn’t taught the right way to play from the get go.
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by dampania on Jan 4, 2012 10:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
At least he was averaging 5 apg
With a worse team, what happened to ball movement if he was let loose his rookie year.
by Black&Purple4Ever on Jan 4, 2012 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty sure he's still doing that
with ’Reke.
...Watching DeMarcus Cousins’ transformation from large human to immortal kill beast...
Not
Saying he should be fired or anything …. But what coaches are available right now? My friend was talking about that earlier and couldn’t think of any.
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by Dub_TC on Jan 4, 2012 10:03 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Shouldn't have replied
Getting used to this app.
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by Dub_TC on Jan 4, 2012 10:03 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
How about some new blood?
I’ll take anyone on this list!
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224-63 Jamie Dixon
221-76 Billy Donovan
221-55 Mark Few
217-71 Jim Calhoun
216-75 Rick Barnes
The endless pounding.
A hole, blacker than despair.
John Salmons is back.
by twasserm on Jun 23, 2011
by Dirkula on Jan 4, 2012 10:06 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Successful college coach =/= successful NBA coach
But anything is better than Westphal at this point, so I’m on board.
Westphal
Was a failure at Pepperdine, as well :/
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 10:11 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Not sure what you're talking about
He still has his handful of dribble moves to elude 4 guys and get to the rim. But as was pointed out yesterday, without proper defense to initiate fast breaks there isn’t much opportunity to utilize his best skill as PW apparently is tired of being chided for the 1-4 flat OR the team isn’t quite sure who its supposed to be run for at this point in time…
...Watching DeMarcus Cousins’ transformation from large human to immortal kill beast...
In good ol kings fashion..
so are we waiting for austin rivers?
by rise_to_mediocrity on Jan 4, 2012 10:00 PM PST reply actions
Kings lose by 27, Rockets lose by 28
Maybe these two teams will stop poaching from each other now!?
The endless pounding.
A hole, blacker than despair.
John Salmons is back.
by twasserm on Jun 23, 2011
by Dirkula on Jan 4, 2012 10:03 PM PST reply actions 10 recs
Wait a second.
Didn’t Maloof senior OWN the rockets?
Hmm…
"If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well
It were done quickly..."
disturbing image
roaming in my head now…
...Watching DeMarcus Cousins’ transformation from large human to immortal kill beast...
Are we the worst team in the league now?
I think we are better then Washington, Cleveland and New Orleans though
That would be the Wizards
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by The Crown Royal Gentleman on Jan 4, 2012 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
By that I mean, we are better than the Wizards -- record wise, anyways.
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by The Crown Royal Gentleman on Jan 4, 2012 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
I think the Kings are the worst team in the NBA with the least amount of promise going forward
for the foreseeable future.
by DiegoKing on Jan 4, 2012 10:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sadly I agree with you on that
Irving is still a rookie, N.O. has new guys like Gordon & Kaman. I hate to say it, but I think we have reached our peak with our lineup right now. That is unless Jimmer and IT will break out to be stars.
Don't let the recent play get you that far down
There is still a lot of young talent here, but the team is poorly coached and assembled. I’d still rather have our team over many of the other bottom dwellers.
@dampania | Section 103 Row V
For some reason or the other the Maloofs are cheap ass bastards,
they won’t fire Westy and shell out some real cheddar to snag a top coach, they’d rather reenact the plot of “Major League” plus stand behind the current loser-of-a-coach, PW. Until they stop shopping at Thrifty’s for head coaches and shit can their current loser-of-a-GM and hire some new blood, I don’t like the Kings chances at success for the foreseeable future. C’mon, Maloofs…you can do it! Stop crapping on the fans.
by DiegoKing on Jan 4, 2012 10:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
They don't have the scrilla
If the shell out top dolla for a top flight coach they’re gonna need to spend money on a new GM to actually go out and get some legit talent.
Nothing is always anything.
by Docile Ocelot on Jan 4, 2012 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
Don't forget the Lakers
We are better than them. Remember, we kicked their cocky, arrogant arses on opening night :-)
Norm
Nope.
They had a bad night, and the way Bynum’s playing, we’re lucky not to be 1-6.
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 4, 2012 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
I think we have more talent than a lot of teams. If you play fantasy.
Buy Kings starters before the coaching change
Too bad I'm not in Sac-Town
The next rally you guys have for “Here We Stay”, you guys should have a “FIRE WESTPHAL” thing going. Please.
lol yes away.
maybe not fire Cousins. but i think he is major negative piece in the puzzle. BAD CHEMISTRY. they can’t gel.
Curious. You posted this after his play last night.
Cousins played one of his best games of the season and was one of the few bright spots in the game last night.
Asked if the Kings had any intention of trading Cousins, basketball president Geoff Petrie said, "No."
If we lose tomorrow
I for one am going to take a dump right there in my seat in section 212 as a protest. Who else is with me?
Norm
by EJ08 on Jan 4, 2012 10:16 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
*if we get blown out again tomorrow
i’m right there with ya
I dont think Milwaukee can blow out a team
Have you seen that offense play? This game might stay in the 70s, and it wont be because of good defense on either side.
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by section214 on Jan 4, 2012 10:28 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I think Paul Westphal is a great coach,
…but a terrible fit for sacramento. he’s more of a veterans coach. i feel like he’s not developing our young players and giving them proper guidance. also, the team just doesn’t play for him anymore. i think regardless of who you are, it’s time to go when your team stops playing for you.
You'll have to copy and paste the link instead of just clicking on it
By the way, during the game he was REALLY criticizing the coach, saying there was no offense and whatnot.
Thanks. Just read his recent tweets.
He is calling for the coach’s head.
"If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well
It were done quickly..."
Highlights
you must don’t understand the game. It’s a system. The coaches system. It has to be followed. He has no system!!!
the bad thing is its not their fault. They’re being thrown into the fire with no coaching.
Yeah, need a new voice and someone who can tailor their system to the players strengths." absolutely!
this is painful! Where’s Reke? Fire Westphael i’m sick of his bullshit and bad rotations" facts!!
Damn
Anybody consider what happens when Westphal gets the ax and the team still sucks?
Nothing is always anything.
by Docile Ocelot on Jan 4, 2012 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
i honestly think we will be better with a new offense/defensive scheme/coach
the problem with westphal is that the offense is basically just running ISOs. i think running an actual offense would benefit every player on this roster, but we aren’t getting that right now. so i think it’s time to get that.
however you might be right that that could take a little while and in the meantime we will still stink, but hopefully we will be moving in the right direction. the current state of the offense does not look like it possesses much potential going forward.
Westphal is just trying to force a scheme that his players are not good at.
It happened in the last couple years for JVG in Houston. JVG’s guards wanted to leak on missed shots and try an uptempo game, but JVG would punish his players for not playing his scheme and that is inevitably why Houston got rid of him.
What makes Adelman’s offensive schemes so successful is he takes his philosophy (Princeton offense) and tailors it to fit his players.
It is like buying a suit straight off the rack vs. getting one to tailored to fit you.
"First we get jobs, then we get the khakis, then we get the chicks."
haha i just went back and looked at his twitter page
if you read all his tweets from the past couple of hours he does pretty much say this. i guess that would make sense because the only difference between me and doc is that I’m not the owner of a rap label.
here's the first in the thread:
GO KINGS!!!!!!! BEAT THE BUCKS TOMORROW!!!!!
by 2001nbachampions on Jan 4, 2012 10:32 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions 1 recs
nice! I gues. u like them too then!
by 2001nbachampions on Jan 4, 2012 10:36 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
there's a thing called loyalty and love
Idc about the score. I will love my kings forever.
by 2001nbachampions on Jan 5, 2012 1:00 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I love them too
But right now it’s the “I love you because you’re family but you need to get some serious help”
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by Aykis16 on Jan 5, 2012 7:20 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
who was arguing with me about Shumpert?
18 pts on 6-10 fg, 4-6 3PT, 2-2 FT, 5 REB, 3 AST, 2 STL BLK, only 2 TO…. in only his 2nd game. he’s gonna be better than Jimmer
Ya, he also plays with Melo and Stat
"First we get jobs, then we get the khakis, then we get the chicks."
This team
has been pieced together with a specific strategy in mind. It is apparent that that strategy has failed.
So my question is are we stuck with a group of players who are not compatible?
Even if we bring in a new coach, is this group doomed to lose because they can’t mesh?
If so, aren’t we looking at another two to three years of rebuilding before we become competitive again?
That’s the great frustration, isn’t it? We thought we would at least be competitive.
Or is there hope with this group and a decent coach?
by boredwiththeUSA on Jan 4, 2012 11:11 PM PST reply actions
Even with a new coach this group won't work
The blame doesn’t fall completely on Westphal. Petrie failed to acquire a proven point guard, a quality small forward, and didn’t sign a shotblocker specialist. Petrie needs to be in the chopping block talks as well. (Oh, wait, people still think he should be heralded as some kind of mesiah.)
Agreed
This team is going nowhere as built.
Defense is defense, open shots were missed by the buttload. They’ve clearly quit on PW so logic says they’ll quit again when the sledding gets choppy.
Blow it up.
Nothing is always anything.
by Docile Ocelot on Jan 4, 2012 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with Convoy, westy deserves blame but not all of it. Petrie made moves but they were sideways moves. What happened to us spending money and trying to build a solid team? And wtf is westphal doing anyway? He just needs to go.
by kuhreem on Jan 4, 2012 11:22 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Don't forget about the players
They took the sac outta… nevermind.
Nothing is always anything.
by Docile Ocelot on Jan 4, 2012 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
Fire PW, Fire PW
Firing PW this early of the season may save this team from further deterioration let Smart be the coach.
beat what you can't beat.
love what others hate and stand up when you fall.
Good luck with that
Sincerely. How many coaches do you need to cycle through before you realize the true problem?
Nothing is always anything.
by Docile Ocelot on Jan 4, 2012 11:40 PM PST up reply actions
How many coaches have coached this roster?
Only one. Can’t hurt.
And if not...a mutiny is certainly justified...wait, aren't we are kinda seeing that anyways?!
The Royal Court is out of order.
I found is amusing that the 2 top scorers tonight did so in ISO going man on man
and not thru some sort of scheme designed by the coaching staff to take advantage of the players strengths.
I think Cuz’s only assisted basket was on the pass from Jimmer at the rim. And, JR made the comment at half time, that Thornton was the only one shooting well and the team should be looking to find him. He did take 20 shots in 33 minutes with 0 assists, but I don’t think anyone has to make a concerted effort to get him his shots. He does fine all by his self.
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is it just me...
Or did the offense have a sense of flow the game Cousins sat out. I may be wrong but he could be the road block on offense IMO
I love a team that never quits
by Howard Nevens IV on Jan 4, 2012 11:54 PM PST via mobile reply actions
i noticed this too
BUT we were playing a hornets team that was lacking their best player. and also we got out rebounded by 20 that game. the hornet’s problem against us was that they just were not making shots. we still gave them plenty of open looks.
by jozy on Jan 4, 2012 11:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Hell, the offense flowed tonight
For the most part. And Cousins played out of his mind IMO. Guys have to make shots and get back on defense. Or at least stop hanging their heads when the game goes to pucker factor 5.
Nothing is always anything.
by Docile Ocelot on Jan 5, 2012 12:12 AM PST up reply actions
Off topic, but did the celtics really offer rondo for cousins?
i would have taken that if i was gp………..
I wouldn't
I’d consider Rondo for Evans over DMC though.
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by HarveySpecter on Jan 5, 2012 12:09 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
There's hope for Reke to acquire Rondo's skills and for DMC to mature
No hope for Rondo to reach DMC’s height
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by 'tough as nails' spence on Jan 5, 2012 12:28 AM PST up reply actions
On the bright side
I’m always excited for the next kings’ game even though the circumstance
by kranthig on Jan 5, 2012 12:11 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
It's the coach
While our players certainly have flaws to say they are missing shots and not playing d fails to recognize that w/o structure and a confidence a young team will fail…these guys can’t play disjointed rotations and reactionary ball as pw asks for…they are too young…maybe a veteran squad can thrive with such freedom…this team can’t and it needs roles, set minutes and repetitive patterns so they can gain comfort and confidence…w/o that we will barely win 15…with that we win 25-30 and we are working back to relevance…if pw can’t see that he must go
by CK40 on Jan 5, 2012 12:29 AM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
totally agree with this post
PW needs to “adjust” just as much as he’s asking his team to. I just don’t know if that will/can happen. Unfortunately. Congrats & Good Luck Mr. Smart, certainly here’s your chance to look it!
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Would any of you trade Reke for a PROVEN true PG or Big Man? If so, who?
Let’s understand a few things here… NO NEW COACH IS TURNING THIS SEASON/TEAM AROUND AS IT IS. #2, We can’t trade DMC and get the value for him, but Treke hasn’t blown his (yet). I think the floor/team chemistry (or lack there of) is poor because we don’t have a floor “general” or dominant center that’s a proven winner. Admit it, Beno did better last few years running the offense and the team.
I wouldn’t mind a Westbrook/Evans deal at all right now (even if it meant a draft pick). Not sure what center a team would be willing to give up for Evans (other than Howard, and not sure if that would work for long term).
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we should have
Resigned dally. him and cousins played real well together late last year in the key. The loofs should have ponied up the dough and kept dally. He had a leader presense and a personality that meshed w cousins.
by Bendacorna on Jan 5, 2012 1:07 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Exactly
Well said
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I gave it some thought & I personally can't blame everything on Westphal.
As far as we know, it wasn’t his decision to sign a 6’6" center over re-signing Dalembert who played solid for us last year and meshed nice with Cousins, and it wasn’t his decision to draft Jimmer Fredette over a real point guard like Kemba Walker. Other than Isaiah Thomas, this team has no point guard, and other than Hassan Whiteside who is now in Reno, this team has no true center. How can a team succeed when it lacks those 2 needs?? Any coach of this roster would be having the same issues this team is having.
"Clowns hate how I lock this down, but if they think I'm obnoxious now, wait til I pop Cristal." - Copywrite
I like Dally
but let’s not pretend he meshed nice. I get the whole preferring a big man who can contest shots thing, but it’s not like our interior defense was all that good last year either.
at least we were able to see a good block now and again
A good swat of the ball can give a team a solid boost mentally. I like blocks, that aren’t cells. He blocked shots on a consistent basis. We didn’t get thornton soon enough to see just how good we could be. If we had signed dally for some decent money and for a few years culdnt we have seen and then traded at a later time if need be so we could have seen the possibilities. Basketball goalies. He’s an original. After these games we’ve seen it seems very clear we now need him or someone w a similar game.
by Bendacorna on Jan 5, 2012 9:44 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Mo Williams ?
That game was awful, we really need an experienced PG !
What about Mo Williams against whoever they want (JT, Tyreke…) ?
Shake up the line-up
pg-Fredette
sg-Evans
PF-Chuck Hayes
SF-Chuck Hayes" Ass
C-Cousins
lol
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by caseycheesecake on Jan 5, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
This all starts with the Maloofs
If your not willing to pay out for a top tier coach this is what you get: a coach with an out-dated system and no motivation tactics. A lot of the improved play we saw at the end of last year is just not there anymore. You can see it in the player’s body language which is depressing. After the team got down by 10 it was almost like they said “here we go again” and started hanging their heads and playing solely for stats.
I don’t care who the new coach is they just need to be able to restore confidence in the players and motivate them. The Maloofs need to man up and get a proven coach or get out of town. This could get really ugly before it gets better.
Do we need to mention that Milwaukee wil be without Bogut tonight too?
I’d see he’s their best player right now…Jennings is good but he’s pretty inefficient. Does this mean we’re going to get torn up by Drew Gooden and Ersan Ilyasova? Too early?
by Sactown_Loyalty19 on Jan 5, 2012 8:26 AM PST reply actions
Nope
I guess teams see us as a break in the schedule to rest their stars. Can’t say I blame them.
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