Does the Bayou Bomber bomb too much?

I have tried everything, supposed to be a new paragraph and section after the opener, THE HORNETS, THE JIMMER, THIS SEASON, etc

thanks

The 17.8 this season puts him 36th among all players in the league playing at least 20 mpg. DMC is 18th on that list at 19.2 FGA’s per 40 minutes. For all of last season, Thornton ranked 23rd in the entire NBA in FGA’s per 40 minutes at 18.4. Tyreke was 38th last season at 17.7 per 40 minutes while DeMarcus was 44th at 17.2 per 40 minutes.

For his career Thornton averages on FGA for every 2.16 minutes played. In comparason Tyreke averages 2.29 minutes per FGA. So Marcus puts up shots more often than Tyreke, although in his defense, he’s has a slightly higher FG% of 44.3% compared to Tyreke’s 43.6%.

The big difference which BB pointed out is that Thornton doesn’t get the the FT line as often as a player with that many FGA’s ususally does. So his eFG% isn’t as high as it could be. Tyreke averages 1.17 pts per FGA. Marcus averages 0.85 points per FGA.

So for as many shots as Thornton puts up per minutes played (for his career not just this season) he has a slightly higher (0.7%) FG% over Tyreke, but Tyreke produces (0.32 pts) more per FGA. And as far as I’ve seen during his stay here, Thornton is prone to put up quite a few contested shots.

And, while Thornton was putting up all those shots his assists per 40 minutes is somewhere near 1.6.

Next season we need to amnesty Salmons and go after a real impact player to add to the core.

I also think that since we started really really bad, he seemed like he tried to carry the team. If I were Thorton I would probably do the same after watching Cousins shoot 32% and Tyreke having some low scoring games. My hope is that once Tyreke and Cousins hit their stride, Thorton will take a step back. Maybe only score about 20 points a game while shooting and even higher %. Jimmer developing could also help by allowing Thorton to be a 6th man and score at will against the other teams bench.

Pretty much, Thorton is the exact player that I expected when we signed him and thats a good thing.

thats the reason we have Jimmer. And you are satisfied with a 10 to 1 shot to assist ratio, or a 17.5 to 1.6 (basically the same thing).

33%, 38% and 29% from the field in 3 of our losses this season which is extremely bad coming from the guy that takes the most FGA’s on the team. He’s a career 44% shooter but only averages 0.85 pts per FGA. He’s a great clutch shooter when he’s hot, but I really see him as the spark off the bench.

And, according to 82games.com his offense doesn’t make up for his defense. SSS I know.

As a guard his assist numbers are extremely low at 1.6 per 40 Minutes while his FGA’s are at 18.5.

when he penetrates he needs to pass more often, especially when Jimmer is on the floor. The way shots aren’t going in right now it’s hard to build trust.

especially if he is a good shooter, just get rid of Salmons ugly attempts and get to Jmmer and we are all good..I think the trust will come and they will see Jimmer shoot more and the team get rewarded for the kick out, but Jimmer has hesitated a few times and the more senior players will take it upon themselves. Trust takes time, when it does click it might be special!

Sometimes, the most important understanding of statistics is to know when they aren’t telling us anything meaningful. It’s tempting to find patterns amidst the chaos. The studies cited in Thinking, Fast and Slow indicate that it’s basically human nature to attribute to much of performance to an individual and too little to outside factors. That’s why it’s necessary to keep in mind the importance of sample size this early in the season, and sometimes even mentioning it isn’t enough.

The latter issue is why I felt the great Henry Abbott’s post on TrueHoop on Monday comparing True Shooting Percentages and shot attempts during the first week of the season was unfair. Henry was sure to mention multiple times that it’s early, but still singled out players (including Cousins) as hurting their team by shooting so much. Especially among readers who aren’t as familiar with the variability of statistics, that’s dangerous, and I think it paints statistical analysis in a bad light. Unfortunately, when those readers consider numbers that don’t match up with what they see on the court, they’re likely to determine that the problem is with the statistics and not how they’re being used.

Their conclusion? Statistics lie.

You’re asking if the best shooting guy on the team is shooting too much, and you think the solution is to have the 4th best shooter (to this point) shoot it more. I disagree with that.

Now, has Thornton taken some ill-advised shots? Absolutely, as has every player on the squad. But if you’re asking me who I have the most confidence in when it comes to scoring, the answer is Marcus Thornton.

I know you purposefully wrote “I answer independent of statistics” but techincally the statistics don’t really even say different. It’s simply too small a sample size regardless and it is baring out that there aren’t even better options.

he takes too many contested shots, and you seem to be using his PPS as a argument when you know it’s a small sample size.

Thornton has a career average PPS of 0.85. Tyreke has a career average PPS of 1.17. Now if we were to need a 3pt game winner with seconds to play, I’ll agree that Marcus is the better choice. But, if we had to pick one to take the most shots per game Tyreke is the better choice. And, right now Marcus is the shot leader at 2.2 per minute played to 2.5 for Tyreke. So, while the difference isn’t that great, I’d rather see the FGA’s reversed.

Neither is exceptional at running the offense and creating for others. So, my question to you is “If we had a Star PG and a Star SF, whom would you have come off the bench Tyreke or Marcus?”

How much of a factor we can argue about without resolution. I will also say that there was also some negative bias placed on Jimmer on the draft boards for the same reasons and why many had him going lower..

but this

not for his ability to shoot and score points

is pure bullshit. if he can’t play GP might be out on his ass. you think the crowds are going to break down the doors for a little white guy who can’t play, on a losing team. gimme a break.

i’d love to see a poll of the black guards that jimmer destroyed in college (while knowing he had no support at all) whether he can play or not

he hasn’t turned into pete maravich yet in his first 8 NBA games. lets declare him an overrated white schmuck.

jimmer without a doubt was drafted because of his shooting ability.why do you think he was the leading scorer last year in college? To say he was drafted because he is white is ignorant. You can see the effort the teams put into guarding him because of this very reason. This is a great thing because it spreads out the opponents defense.One reason his stats are lower right now is because of him making that transition and learning as an NBA player. He was also a volume shooter in college and his stats shoot up when he is able to take more shots.Once he gains more experience and his teammates put more trust in him I guarantee he’ll shoot more and his percentages will go up.