Sacramento Kings owners still waiting
Nine months later, the Maloofs are still waiting for details. They reportedly haven't even been asked how much they're willing to kick in as the anchor tenants. If they're expected to contribute $80 million to $110 million, as the Sacramento Business Journal recently speculated, there won't be a new arena. They don't have it. It's not surprising that it's difficult to find anyone who believes the financial term sheet for the proposed $406 million sports and entertainment complex in downtown Sacramento – detailing the various public and private contributions toward the project – will be in place by March 1.
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So am I the only one who this gif bugs
Not in an offended way, just kind of the way I felt when I saw Roseann Barr grab her crotch after singing the national anthem. Maybe I need to see it context, but it’s like, wow does your mom look at this stuff?
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by jjham15 on Feb 2, 2012 8:54 AM PST reply actions 8 recs
Some information in here I suppose.
Earlier this week, I asked Frank in an email “if the relocation deadline is as flexible as it was last year, when two extensions were granted (by the NBA Board of Governors) or whether there has to be a financing plan announced by March 1, to the NBA’s satisfaction.”
This was Frank’s response: “The deadline has not been extended and remains March 1.”
Although really curious where he is getting this from.
Nine months later, the Maloofs are still waiting for details. They reportedly haven’t even been asked how much they’re willing to kick in as the anchor tenants. If they’re expected to contribute $80 million to $110 million, as the Sacramento Business Journal recently speculated, there won’t be a new arena. They don’t have it.
To be fair, Stern tried to call them
But I hear the line was disconnected because they couldn’t pay their bill.
by thewaterispoison on Feb 2, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
My interpretation of this article and your quote block is
Samueli expects to own the Kings because the Maloofs can’t afford to.
by betweentheeyes on Feb 2, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
I will add, if the Maloofs cannot afford to be reasonable rent contributing tenant anchors
Then their ship is sunk. The City will collect on the money owed at ARCO, The NBA will collect on their loan on the Kings and the Kings will be sold .
by betweentheeyes on Feb 2, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
I like how he didn't qualify this statement.
Is that $80-$110 million over 30 years or up front? If it’s over 30 years then someone has some explaining to do because that is $3-$4 per year.
The Kings have stayed out of the negotiations and are leaving those talks to the NBA and the City.
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it's weird because he says "reportedly" like there are reports out there
and I remember a few months ago that being the case but haven’t heard a lick either way in a long time. And time kind of matters in this.
by wallywagon11 on Feb 2, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Just curious
but why is this fanshot not in the fanshot section? Only noticed it because it was on the bar to the right of the page but didn’t see it in the fanshots or front page.
I was wondering the same thing.
dunno. I posted it the same way I always post fanshots.
by drew7 on Feb 2, 2012 10:48 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Randy is an idiot.
Earlier this week, I asked Frank in an email "if the relocation deadline is as flexible as it was last year, when two extensions were granted (by the NBA Board of Governors) or whether there has to be a financing plan announced by March 1, to the NBA’s satisfaction."
This was Frank’s response: "The deadline has not been extended and remains March 1.
To me, that means the deadline is firm and if the arena financing isn’t finalized in the next month, the Maloof family – which has owned a controlling interest in the Kings since 1999 – will have to file for relocation simply to protect its own interests in case the project falls through again this spring."
Well, to me this read like Frank didn’t answer your question and gave a “current status” and leaves it open to change.
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by ibon on Feb 2, 2012 10:57 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, his interpretation is different than mine
It sounds more like a “we’ll cross that bridge when we get to it”, rather than “this is a firm deadline”.
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by otis29 on Feb 2, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
and everyone knows that everything can get done by March 1st, the NBA isn't stupid.
the question is what is enough to give an extention and then you have to ask if this goes to the courts whether the Maloofs will be willing to fight the league (and yes I am making a big assumption the league would be willing to give the city more time in that case but I have a hard time believing they wouldn’t).
by wallywagon11 on Feb 2, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
derp
*everyone knows that everything can’t get done by March 1st
by wallywagon11 on Feb 2, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
I think I'm lost here
But if the Maloofs contribution to the arena is through a 30 year lease than it would be like $2.7 mil a year to reach that $80 mil mark. I don’t think that’s a ridiculous amount per year to ask for. Than again I don’t know how much other owners pay in rent either.
Or is the $80 mil required up front, plus rent as well? I know I need to read the documents again but maybe one of you can clarify for me.
by Crocoduck on Feb 2, 2012 11:37 AM PST via mobile reply actions
that's just financing and wouldn't equate to $80 million of the $406 million pricetag
by wallywagon11 on Feb 2, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Ok I see why you don't think we'll be able to do this without additional private funds.
The money we have for the upfront costs are not adding up. Like you said before the city wouldn’t take out a huge loan because of the huge interest rate.
Maloofs don’t have that kind of cash either, so I can see why you’re hopeful they sell. I wonder if another buyer would even think it’s worth it, without any parking revenue and putting that kind of cash up front.
by Crocoduck on Feb 2, 2012 12:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yes and no
The money we have for the upfront costs are not adding up. Like you said before the city wouldn’t take out a huge loan because of the huge interest rate.
Yes I don’t see the up front money adding up quite yet but technically muncipal bonds wouldn’t be a high interest rate and could be an option. Granted, I’ve said before that it seems like they are either trying to avoid them all together at all costs or at the very least trying to just limit the amount they are going to take out on this (basically only way to answer this is if someone has a solid understanding of the recent prop 13 amendments and whether it creates ramifications here with a bond sale).
Legally to avoid a referendum, I am extremely curious (but honestly don’t know the likely answer) whether selling municipal bonds here would be a material issue in a fight over a referendum. I can tell you that even though it’s not directly on point, all eyes are on Santa Clara right now though.
Regardless of that though, politically I do think municipal bonds on top of leasing out parking for 50 years and possibly selling land is a somewhat difficult pill to swallow for 5 council members to vote yes. And politically, it would be an incredibly difficult pill for for 5 council members to swallow a private loan with a higher interest rate where the city has to back the loan.
I have a hard time believing someone is going to be willing to give upfront millions at an interest rate of a municipal bond. Perhaps though the gap won’t be so big in the end but we don’t know.
But yes, this would be a lot easier if there were different owners.
by wallywagon11 on Feb 2, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Ok I see why you don't think we'll be able to do this without additional private funds.
The money we have for the upfront costs are not adding up. Like you said before the city wouldn’t take out a huge loan because of the huge interest rate.
Maloofs don’t have that kind of cash either, so I can see why you’re hopeful they sell. I wonder if another buyer would even think it’s worth it, without any parking revenue and putting that kind of cash up front.
by Crocoduck on Feb 2, 2012 12:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
My guess is
The NBA will determine what is fair for the Maloofs to contribute. If they can’t do it then they will hopefully be forced to sell.
by Allbenji on Feb 2, 2012 12:39 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I know 8 years ago, when the Maloofs were actively trying to get this arena built
and when they still had money, they were willing to give 25% of the arena cost (which was estimated $400 million).
Not sure if this would still be accurate though because they are only willing to be tenants at this point.
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Yes they advertised it as around 25% but it was a lie
more around 12%.
And the estimate was between $472 and $542 million for the arena at the time.
What is going on?
I haven’t heard anything about the Kings so I just assumed that everything was going fine in Sacramento. Is there any truth to Youngman’s article? Will there be another prolonged relocation fiasco? Hope everything works out on your end.
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by AnotherStupidSN on Feb 3, 2012 8:51 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
It's not surprising that it's difficult to find anyone who believes the financial term sheet for the proposed $406 million sports and entertainment complex in downtown Sacramento
I find it amazing that a state with the GDP of California can’t figure out how to finance an arena for it’s capitol? Yet they can build one in Orange F’in county?
Interest rates are low, unemployment is high and the govt. needs to stimulate the economy. It’s the perfect storm of need and opportunity. What if these folks were in charge when we needed a highway system, an aqueduct, or a power grid?
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