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This Week's Asinine Trade Thread, February 12-20

Since we are now officially about two months into the new season, and the last one was a gas, I thought it was a good time to bring back this baby for this week. Since next month is the deadline, I will start things off with a deal that is truly, truly asinine, and has about as much chance of happening as a sequel to "Gigli".

Star-divide

SAC Gets:

PF Josh Smith

SF Metta World Peace

ORL Gets:

C/PF Andrew Bynum

PF/C Jason Thompson

PG Andrew Goudelock

LAL Gets:

SF/SG John Salmons

C Dwight Howard

PG Kirk Hinrich

ATL Gets:

PF/C Pau Gasol

PF JJ Hickson

Conditional Sacramento pick

WHY: SAC does this trade for 2 reasons: 1, to get rid of that Salmons contract. 2., to get a fantastic PF that can project to be a starter for them for at least two more years to come. Metta and the pick are the cost of getting Smith, but isn't it worth it?

LAL does this trade for the obvious reasons- they get Howard, a true backup PG, and at least $8.1m in cap room to throw at a PF of their choosing (Humphries?) in the offseason. The painful part comes in them taking on that Salmons contract, but it's the Lakers- money ain't much of an issue. Losing Bynum AND Gasol hurts, but again, the cap room may be enough to entice them.Their starting 5 becomes: Howard/Murphy/Barnes/Fisher/Bryant, with Salmons and Hinrich as their new options on an improved bench.


ORL does this deal to get young talented pieces in Thompson and Bynum, with Goudelock becoming a nice affordable backup PG for them to move Duhon with Turkoglu or another piece later. There would likely need to be a pick included here as well, but seems like about what they could do, considering how much Howard claims he wants to dictate his destination.

ATL does this deal to get better depth now and an incredible piece to put alongside Collins or Horford once healthy. The pick is the ultimate sweetener here- that allows them to pick between 5-10 and get a true building block. Their starting five would become Horford/Gasol/Williams/Teague/Johnson, with Ivan Johnson, McGrady, Radmanovic, and Hickson on the bench.

So in the end, the Kings new starting five, pending another deal (my pick would be signing a long-time Petrie target, like Aaron Brooks or Leon Powe), would be:

C: Cousins

PF: Smith

SF: World Peace

PG: Evans

SG: Thornton

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6: Brooks, PG or Powe, PF/C; Hayes, C/PF; Fredette, SG/PG; Thomas, PG; Greene, PF/SF; Garcia, SG/SF; Outlaw, SF; Honeycutt, SF; Whiteside, C

Annnnnd with that insane and never-gonna-happen deal, any other ideas and thoughts welcome.

(This is a FanPost from a member of the Sactown Royalty community. The views expressed come from the member, and not Sactown Royalty staff.)

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Any trade that lands Sac- Iggy, J Smith, Granger

Gets My stamp of approval. At this stage not sure what metta offers us, and no I won’t succumb to the typical “he’ll mess up our chemistry, or locker room whatever”, cause that’s not his MO anymore nor has it been for awhile. But besides Decent D and a veteran presence, I mean I guess he’s somewhat a
"Upgrade"to our 3 and that’s not saying much.
But J smooth is involved in this trade so I’ll take metta for it

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by J.R 50 on Feb 12, 2012 5:41 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I honestly believe it's going to take that.

Us landing one of those guys will mean trading Tyreke or Cousins, OR taking on a “problem”/contract issue for another team. If Metta is the worst we have to deal with, I can live with that. I actually think he might be a nice mentor for this team, considering how he just might relish being a starter again. And our fans were good to him.

by KevinSalvadori on Feb 12, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Hate to give up JT though...

I think the prototypical trade for Kings in terms of what we give up is..
Salmons and Hickson / Cisco for
Some person we like. Now not saying teams are drooling over that tempting package but if we could ship 2 or 3 of those out in a trade.. Happy campers we become

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by J.R 50 on Feb 12, 2012 5:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

JT/Salmons/JJ for Smith/Metta

Worth it for me, I think. The hardest thing to trade was the pick. I honestly believe us picking Moultrie, Jones, or another could provide the second coming of JT anyways. We’re getting a guy that does a ton of the things we need- bona-fide blocker, good shot, fantastic rebounder. He has periods of mental lapses, sure, but he’s ready NOW. I think JT is great, but he’s not Smith. And I would take the Metta for Salmons/JJ deal all day long- so long as Smith was a piece of it as well.

by KevinSalvadori on Feb 12, 2012 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

O I know j smooth well,

Been on my fantasy teams since forever, I play as the hawks on 2k online (when not the kings), and he’s one of my fav players. So I know he’s worth that and more

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by J.R 50 on Feb 12, 2012 8:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I think we have a better chance for a trade like this to happen
Orlando gets Francisco Garcia & JJ Hickson
Kings get Dwight Howard

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by Widowwolf on Feb 13, 2012 12:17 AM PST up reply actions  

hahahahha

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by TrojanCBB on Feb 13, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

We can't trade a first round conditional pick

Because we already have a conditional pick out to Cleveland.

by Deleran on Feb 12, 2012 7:42 PM PST reply actions  

shhh keep it on the down low

besides thats what makes it assinine

35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.

by ElRonToro on Feb 12, 2012 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends on the size of the ass

besides S is my favorite letter, unpredictable and exciting

35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.

by ElRonToro on Feb 12, 2012 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Its out until we actually give it them

Which will most likely be when we make the playoffs.

by Deleran on Feb 12, 2012 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, can't use that one either

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by otis29 on Feb 13, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

nope

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by lietothegirls on Feb 15, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

He forgot to mention

That in this asinine trade, we trade two 2nd round picks to the Cavs in order to get our 1st back.

by SharkKings49 on Feb 15, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Also out of respect to our newly reinforced language edict

I think we should change the name of this to the Butt-like trade thread.
Or the Graswich.

35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.

by ElRonToro on Feb 12, 2012 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

That's why it's actually the rights and not the actual pick itself.

That’s how you get around it. :)

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by LOUiECOG on Feb 15, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

The rights don't really belong to us either...yet

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by otis29 on Feb 15, 2012 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we're fleecing those guys if we can give up Salmons and JJ for Josh Smith.

I’d be sad to see Thompson go, but as someone who has personally met and played with Smith I’d be beyond excited to have him on our team.

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by Schneezel on Feb 12, 2012 8:54 PM PST reply actions  

Travis Outlaw for Josh Childress

Saves the Suns money for a player they don’t play anyway, and gives the Kings more depth at the wing.

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by Aykis16 on Feb 13, 2012 2:15 AM PST reply actions  

I believe they pay what we pay.

I know we're gonna lose but I still think we're gonna win.

by LOUiECOG on Feb 15, 2012 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I've kind of warmed up to the Rondo for Reke trade

I love Reke & he might end up better than Rondo in the long run but Rondo might be better for this team.

Reke is a special player that needs a certain type of team built around him. I’m not sure Petrie has the know-how anymore to do that. Ainge can probably do a better job.

Rondo can probably make any team better. Him & DMC can be a force.

Ainge can start the rebuild in Boston around Reke. There has been rumors that if Boston is blown up Rondo wouldn’t be part of the rebuild.

Trade Rondo & Pierce for Reke, Jimmer, JJ, & Cisco.

Rondo/IT
MT23/Salmons
Pierce/Green/Outlaw
JT/Hayes/Donte
DMC/Hayes/JT

by Allbenji on Feb 13, 2012 9:14 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Is there a reason?

I’m going by all the rumors over the past few years that the Celtics are not opposed to trading Rondo. In fact there has been many rumors they have shopped him. Including the rumor they were willing to trade him for our pick which ended up being Reke.

Now those are all just rumors but usually where there’s smoke there’s fire. If the Celtics free fall they could be looking to rebuild(and have said they would blow it up if that happens)

Rondo is better than Reke right now but Reke has the potential to be better or at least as good. Maybe you wouldn’t trade Rondo for Reke but the Celtics might if the Celtics get bounced in the first round.

by Allbenji on Feb 13, 2012 7:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

i dont see them trading a borderline top 5 PG for reke.

i just dont.

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by TrojanCBB on Feb 14, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Not unless there is some serious behind the scenes sh*t

And I would think that it would have to be along the lines of a 3-state killing spree.

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by section214 on Feb 14, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Correct.

Ainge talked about trading Rondo for Chris Paul.
That is a little different.

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by TrojanCBB on Feb 14, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

And I wouldn't trade Rondo for Paul

Trading Rondo would mean the end of the Celtics run. Why would they trade him for a veteran with bad knees who was at the end of his contract? Reke is better for a rebuilding team than Paul all day.

by Allbenji on Feb 14, 2012 1:02 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I'd trade Rondo for Paul seven days a week

And twice on Sundays.

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by otis29 on Feb 14, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

And that goes extra for Reke, much as I love him.

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by otis29 on Feb 14, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

My point is trading Rondo for Reke would not be a stretch depending on the circumstances

NO just traded Paul for basically Eric Gordon(3rd best player on a winning team IMO)

Utah trade D-Will for Devin Harris(bleh!) & Derrick Favors(very meh so far, might not have any drive)

Those ARE your 2 best PGs in the league & that’s all they got because that’s the circumstances those teams were in. I could see Boston being in that type of circumstance by seasons end & I’d think they’d be thrilled to get a former ROY with multiple all-star potential that can already get you 18-5-5 every single night.

by Allbenji on Feb 14, 2012 3:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Paul's got another year on his deal, I believe?

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by otis29 on Feb 14, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

i thought it was a player option.

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by TrojanCBB on Feb 14, 2012 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Could be

ShamSports doesn’t list it as such, but I think that’s incorrect.

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by otis29 on Feb 15, 2012 5:44 AM PST up reply actions  

It is a player option, but he picked it up for the trade

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by lietothegirls on Feb 15, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

right.

so he wasnt picking it up for the hornets.

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by TrojanCBB on Feb 15, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

They traded Paul for a lot more than just Eric Gordon

And Eric Gordon scored 22 points per game pretty efficiently last year. He’s a future all-star that had more value than Tyreke before his injury.

by Charlieb on Feb 14, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Kinda disagree on the "future all-star" point

Could he be an all-star? Sure in the right situation. Mo Williams was an all-star playing with Lebron on a 60 win team but players like Gordon are a dime a dozen to me. Jason Richardson, Kevin Martin, Marcus Thornton, Jamal Crawford(in his prime) type player.

Gordon + BG = bad team
CP3 + BG = top 4 in the west

by Allbenji on Feb 14, 2012 11:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Those guys are all one-dimensional scorers - Eric Gordon is a very good all-round player

He passes, he rebounds, and he plays solid defense. CP3 is a top 5 player in the world, so no, Eric Gordon is not nearly on that level. But he’s already a much better player than any of the guys you just listed, and he’s still young and improving.

by Charlieb on Feb 15, 2012 4:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Young & improving?

Umm he is in his 4th year. Don’t you know if you’re not an all-star in your 3rd year you will never get better & you should be traded? Duh!

by Allbenji on Feb 15, 2012 7:01 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

lol nailed him.

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by caseycheesecake on Feb 15, 2012 7:25 AM PST up reply actions  

what say you

through JJ Hickson into the Evans for Rondo deal, would that get it done?

by Murf on Feb 14, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I posted this trade before but im posting it again

Because I think its a good, debatable trade that makes all parties better. Reke, Salmons, JT for Paul Millsap, Devin Harris, Alec Burks, 1st rd pick. Utah has GSs top 7 pick and their own this year. I like a Reke for Rondo trade the most, Reke/Salmons/JT for Rondo/Oneill. Then Boston should turn around and trade Ray Allen for Mo Williams. The Kings need to trade away Salmons.

by Chent on Feb 13, 2012 9:44 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

The Kings need to amnesty Salmons at the end of the season

There’s just no way they can trade him unless they give up a valuable asset to pay another team to take him – this would be the type of trade that would make most of us cringe. All we can do is hope the Malindas can afford to pay him to go away.

by Charlieb on Feb 13, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Millsap

I’m interested in acquiring Millsap, but not ready to give up on Tyreke. Kid is only 22 and has the second highest PER on the team. Don’t need to give up Tyreke or any other prospect just to get rid of Salmons’ contract either with the new amnesty provision.

by sroufe on Feb 15, 2012 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

not a Tyreke hater, but he has the most value besides Cousins, so

Tyreke for Paul George/D Collison. Tyreke would fit perfectly with Indianas team in my opinion, you’ve got a sf that loves to shoot 3s, George Hill can be very good playig off of Reke imo, D West is a great mid range shooter and leader, Collison/George are two young pieces who I think can fit very good on this team. Collison and Thornton played very good off of each other when they were in NO together.

by Chent on Feb 13, 2012 9:59 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Good suggestion.

As a Kings fan, it’s hard not to come up with trades lopsided in the Kings’ favor. With this trade, both sides would wince a bit at what they’re giving up, but be intrigued by the possibilities of what they’re getting. I’m not even sure I’d do it if offered, but it seems like a reasonably well-thought-out, balanced suggestion.

by twasserm on Feb 13, 2012 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

The idea that nobody wants anything we have after Tyreke, Cousins, and

maybe JT makes me realize how awful this roster is. Seriously, as I was messing with the trade machine I found myself repeatedly asking myself “way would team a trade player b for a package of Hickson, Garcia, and Thomas?”

by StevenG on Feb 13, 2012 1:27 PM PST reply actions  

Thats why i always think of trade ideas involving Tyreke

Its sad but the truth, we do have young players who another team might want to take a chance on but the reality is if we want a little extra value in a return I think Tyreke is the 1 to go. MT23, Jimmer, JT are the only other players I think a team wouldn’t mind aquiring but wont overpay for.

by Chent on Feb 13, 2012 1:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

What are you talking about?

Everyone wants Cisco’s leadership and intangible…

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by TrojanCBB on Feb 13, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Sadly true

Except that Marcus Thornton is pretty good, and there’s still hope that Jimmer eventually develops into a useful player. Beyond those guys all we have is this year’s draft pick, spare parts, and cap space. Looking at this roster, it’s pretty unlikely a trade makes the team better this year, but hopefully the draft adds a talented young player and a veteran free agent can be lured to town in the offseason.

by Charlieb on Feb 13, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Would you move Thomas?

If so, I think we have more pieces than you think. A lot of contenders would kill for a guy like Thomas right now- an affordable, spark-plug option that is signed for cheap over three years. IT, JJ, JT, our pick, and Jimmer, with obviously DMC and Cousins, we could be in a few conversations over the next month.

by KevinSalvadori on Feb 13, 2012 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm really impressed by Thomas' play so far, and I'm glad to have found him at the end of the 2nd round

but he’s not really worth much just yet. If he keeps up this level of play all season then that may change, but right now, IT falls under the spare parts category. No team would give the Kings a valuable player for him right now.

by Charlieb on Feb 13, 2012 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree, but...

…I think he provides an intriguing piece for a team with a couple of PGs of starting caliber they’re trying to make fit (CLE, DEN, CHA, HOU, TOR) but looking to deal, still needing a backup. If it were me, I’d float a proposal for Augustin or Sessions. CLE wants picks or young bigs to allow them to sell high on Varejao. CHA wants to find a team that can take on additional money from a bad contract and provide nice role players in return. Failing that, DEN would trade Miller for IT and Hickson at this stage just to free up money for Chandler.

I have no idea what the price would be on Calderon, but h has zilch defense and maybe isn’t exactly what we need. I like him, but I feel like Augustin, Sessions, or Miller would fit better. I’d fish for Miller, finding a way to acquire Smith from ATL as well in a deal (Hinrich to LAL, as mentioned above, with Salmons and Howard; Smith to Kings, etc, getting us Hedo as well). My pick for Miller would be Thomas and Hickson for ’Dre. Kings would get 7.6m of relief in offseason.

by KevinSalvadori on Feb 13, 2012 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Hickson has been less than useless this season

A few teams would probably take a flyer on Hickson or IT for a second-rounder or something along those lines (basically for free), but there’s just no way they can be traded for any player with real value, like Augustin or Andre Miller. They are at best a very minor throw-in that could be used to sweeten a deal where we sent out a player that another team actually valued. And like I said above, we really only have four players that other teams might covet, plus possibly JT to a lesser extent.

by Charlieb on Feb 14, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree.

Roster doesn’t pack much punch. On the other hand, it would be worse to have a roster full of OVERPRICED pieces no one wants (Charlotte, NOH, to a point, even Dallas). The only benefit we have is young-ish pieces at a reasonable price with some upside yet, and the ability to take on salary to get a player we want.

by KevinSalvadori on Feb 13, 2012 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

TRADE

how bout salmons, garcia, hickson for rashard lewis.

We would have a decent 3 man in lewis who can shoot and has experience. and we get rid of bad contracts.

washington get rid of their contracts and get a few players they could use. heck give em outlaw as well.

by donte-thexfactor on Feb 14, 2012 11:27 AM PST reply actions  

No.

Do we owe WAS a favor or something? Lewis sucks. He can’t even hit 3s anymore.

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by caseycheesecake on Feb 15, 2012 7:26 AM PST up reply actions  

normally I auto-rec these asinine threads

but I can’t rec a deal that has the Kings helping the Redacted land Dwight Howard.

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by TheFifthMookie on Feb 14, 2012 2:11 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Here's a thought...

John Salmons to China for Wilson Chandler.

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by TrojanCBB on Feb 15, 2012 10:42 AM PST reply actions  

one can only dream...

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by TrojanCBB on Feb 15, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

John Salmons to anywhere for anyone

If you can dump that contract without having to use our amnesty, do it.

by Deleran on Feb 15, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

If someone else is going to do the Trade Thread

It would be a good idea to include the trade machine link (not that many don’t ignore it anyway) to keep out some of the actually impossible trades.

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by lietothegirls on Feb 15, 2012 2:57 PM PST reply actions  

I got it ..Travis Outlaw for Jeremy Lin..Make it happen Petrie! He is a d league Scrub!

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by Widowwolf on Feb 15, 2012 7:31 PM PST reply actions  

IT+Hickson for Andre Miller

With Nene out hurt and Miller whining about PT, IT attracts them as an able backup. We get a possible starter and move ’Reke to his natural position, SG. Cut 7.8m for offseason as well, and get a veteran presence.

by KevinSalvadori on Feb 15, 2012 7:34 PM PST reply actions  

Uh uh

Give up two young energy guys for an older point guard who will probably just mail it in while he’s here? No thanks.

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by otis29 on Feb 16, 2012 5:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Wishful thinking and Paul Millsap

Nearly traded last summer to Phoenix, the Jazz are in full-rebuild mode now and can sell relatively high on Millsap, thus allowing Favors, Kanter and even Jeremy Evans to see more playing time.

In March, I’d offer them Thornton, Hickson and maybe Whiteside. I’d even do that AND take on Raja Bell’s salary. Since we’re dealing in hypotheticals here, I’d move Salmons to the 2 for the rest of the season and see if he dramatically improves. If not, amnesty him this summer. Start Greene at the 3 for the rest of the year and give him at least 25 MPG minimum. If he isn’t consistent then you simply don’t offer him the qualifying offer this summer.

Also, depending on how well he performs the rest of the season, I’d consider making Jeremy Lin a back-loaded offer that the Knicks cannot match. Not unlike what the Blazers did in signing Wes Matthews away from Utah. Probably harder to accomplish under the new CBA, but worth a try. If not Lin, then maybe Nic Batum. If the Kings were to also use their lottery selection on a SF such as Gilchrist-Kidd or Barnes, here’s what next year’s depth chart could look like:

1 – Lin / Thomas
2 – Evans / Fredette / Bell / Garcia
3 – Barnes / Honeycutt / Outlaw
4 – Millsap / Thompson
5 – Cousins / Hayes

Summary: Lin > Thornton; Barnes > Salmons; Millsap > Hickson

by sroufe on Feb 15, 2012 8:43 PM PST reply actions  

Tyreke, Fredette and Hickson for Wall and Vesely

I think John Wall is the best chance for the Kings to resign DMC. Its time to invest in the star that is showing growth improving.

by mattrick on Feb 15, 2012 11:03 PM PST reply actions  

Vesely won't be a consistent producer for 3 more years at least.

The kid is r a w.

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by caseycheesecake on Feb 16, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I know it's "crazy" but I'm throwing it out there again....

Tyreke and JT (if you can get them to take Hickson instead of JT that’s fine) for Kaman and one of the Hornet’s 1st rd picks. Kings will then have two 1st rd picks, one to pick up Quincy Miller (or some other SF they’d prefer), and the other pick to go after Brad Beal (or Lamb or Rivers or some other SG they’d prefer).

If the above proposal isn’t possible, I would propose putting together a Jimmer/Hickson “depth” package to obtain a low 1st rd pick.

by getPGwithbounce on Feb 16, 2012 3:34 AM PST reply actions  

Deal withe the Lakers

Pau Gasol for Thorton, Thompson, Hickson and 1st rd pick in 2013.

Why the Lakers do it: They need another guard that can score besides Kobe. They also get two servicable PF’s to go alongside of Bynum and a 1st rd pick next year.

Why the Kings do it: Pau is awesome and him and Cousins would be awesome together

by elSAVinator on Feb 16, 2012 5:37 PM PST reply actions  

That my friend

Is the type of saavy GM of the yr move the old Petrie would make. If he were able to pull off a deal like this or for players like Varejao, Millsap, etc everyones faith in him will be restored with a move like that.

by Chent on Feb 16, 2012 11:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Except we don't have a 1st rounder in 2013 to deal

Unless Petrie picked up another one in a separate deal.

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by otis29 on Feb 17, 2012 4:59 AM PST up reply actions  

J Salmons for Andres Nocioni... again!

I really would do that, lol. Some players I think the Kings should target and I think are attainable:Sessions, Martell Webster, Ed Davis, Calderon, Corey Brewer. None of them are the answer to our needs but they can help.

by Chent on Feb 16, 2012 10:39 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Ok

But I;m not giving up Reke or JT to acquire any of those players. We know DMC is untouchable. But i do believe each could help.

Need to get rid of: JJ Hickson ,John Salmons,Francisco Garcia,Travis Outlaw. bad part is in order to get rid of any off them you will have to package them with a average to above average player

I love a team that never quits

by Howard Nevens IV on Feb 17, 2012 12:27 AM PST up reply actions  

of course

I’m just trying to get rid of some of our junk for someone else’s spare parts.

by Chent on Feb 17, 2012 7:54 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Two Deals, three moves=playoffs?

First, deal Garcia, Isaiah Thomas, and Hickson to Toronto for Calderon. Deal saves TOR $1m and gives them a 2.2m expiring.

Next, deal Salmons, Thompson, and Honeycutt to New Orleans for Emeka Okafor and their 2nd rd pick next year. Deal gets NOH an expiring (3.0m) and provides them a cheap backup SF. Their lineup would become Kaman, Ayon, Ariza/Salmons, Jack, and Belinelli, with a bench of Landry, Salmons, Thompson, Henry, Vazquez, Summers, and Aminu. Not bad with a team heading into a nice draft with 2 lottery picks.

Next move: sign a backup PG or PF, just to ride out the year. Let’s say Leon Powe.
Summer move: sign Andrei Kirilenko, Nick Batum, or a newly fit Boris Diaw.

New Team:
1: Calderon/Fredette
2: Evans/Thornton
3: Kirilenko/Greene/Outlaw
4: Okafor/Powe/Draft Pick? (Henson?)
5: Cousins/Hayes/Whiteside

by KevinSalvadori on Feb 17, 2012 4:32 AM PST reply actions  

I love the idea of picking up Calderon.

However, he is playing REALLY well and as long as Bayless cant stay healthy he isnt going anywhere.

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Feb 17, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

if the Kings trade for another 1sr rd pick like around 29

Can we substitute that to Cleveland instead of our future pick? That would be considered our first rd pick right? Another trade I’ve thought of is Salmons/JJ hickson for Tyrus Thomas. Charlotte needs all the help they can get and Tyrus Thomas is basically just a defensive specialist , something we could use. Salmons might actually be able to be more of a contributer with more touches and shots in Charlotte, JJ Hickson is better than DJ White and they can test him out before RFA.

by Chent on Feb 17, 2012 8:45 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

no.

At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.

by TrojanCBB on Feb 17, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Trade back with the Bucks!

Send J.Salmons for S.Jackson,hell have a reunion if you want also send Garcia for Beno too!Bring back Brockman too!

by hudson101 on Feb 17, 2012 9:00 AM PST reply actions  

I'd take Beno back in a second.

Actually appeared to give a damn on the floor, and played the most well-rounded game of anyone on the team. MIL may bite, but it would take Jimmer and/or Donte.

Garcia+Greene for Brockman+Udrih.

Reunion time!!!

by KevinSalvadori on Feb 17, 2012 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

In a freaking heartbeat!

Founder of Isaiah as Mogwai..

by Widowwolf on Feb 17, 2012 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Help PHX out of LUX TAX!

J.Childress for T.Honeycutt & 2nd round pick
PHX saves over 5mil,We get a SF that can start now!

by hudson101 on Feb 17, 2012 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

Only problem

Is they’re not SF’s!6’6" Salmon & 6’7"Garcia are both SG’s always have been SG`s except in Sacramento!

by hudson101 on Feb 18, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure if they are willing to do this:
Budinger and Patterson for Hickson and Donte

Founder of Isaiah as Mogwai..

by Widowwolf on Feb 17, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

They might.

Another team that can use cheap bigs and Donte’s versatility. And the two expirings. That said, Budinger wouldn’t be my first pick. He’d be great off the bench though. Exactly the type of reserve we’d need.

by KevinSalvadori on Feb 17, 2012 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

That and maybe they could get something outta Hickson more then we are getting..He’d be better then Salmons, Garcia, Donte right now

Founder of Isaiah as Mogwai..

by Widowwolf on Feb 17, 2012 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I would honestly take either one of the 3 SF's POR currently has in Batum, Wallace, or Mathews

Now that Batum is starting this week and putting up big numbers, he is putting himself in a position to make a lot of money next year. I would love to offer Batum a big contract POR has no chance to match and then trade our top 5 pick and Thorton/Thompson for a nice PF/C like Josh Smith, Pau Gasol, Paul Millsap, Noah, Ibaka. The only reason I would include Thorton is because I think we could get OJ Mayo next year for a similar price and he is MT23 with better defense and playmaking skills. I would love a starting lienup next year of..

OJ Mayo
Tyreke
Batum
DMC
Pau/Smith/Millsap/Noah

With a bench of… Jimmer, IT, Hayes, Hickson, Honeycutt

by elSAVinator on Feb 18, 2012 7:59 PM PST reply actions  

I do not want to see Hickson on this team next year

Founder of Isaiah as Mogwai..

by Widowwolf on Feb 18, 2012 11:51 PM PST reply actions  

Any Chance we could get/want Gasol...

…as part of a Howard to LAL deal, IF it involved us not getting rid of DMC, Tyreke, or Jimmer?

I think it could add what we need, and set us up nicely. Draft a solid player in the draft (Barnes, Kidd-Gilchrist, Moultrie, or Robinson), sign an FA SF, and that could be a solid team.

C: Cousins
PF: Gasol
SF: Kirilenko/Batum
PG: Thomas
SG: Evans
-——————
BENCH Rotation: Thornton, Hayes, Fredette, New Draftee, Outlaw/Greene/Honeycutt.

Very competitive, and a nice core for the next 2-4 years, at least.

by KevinSalvadori on Feb 19, 2012 9:01 AM PST reply actions  

I don't venture over to the Asinine Trade thread very often.

I had to chuckle at the elaborate and convoluted trade you came up with to get rid of Salmons. It made me wonder if Petrie is spending far more hours coming up with trade ideas to get rid of him than the one to land him?

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by Slam_Dunk on Feb 19, 2012 9:53 AM PST reply actions  

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