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Kings vs. Cavaliers Preview: SERMONS

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Sacramento Kings at Cleveland Cavaliers
3 p.m. Pacific on Comcast SportsNet California

The Kings, 0-3 on this road trip, visit Cleveland for Game 4. Just a few days away from the much-needed All-Star break, Sacramento is looking for a couple of wins to avoid falling into last place in the West. The Hornets have won three straight -- ?!? -- and are now just three games behind the Kings for No. 14 in the conference.

The Cavs have fallen out of the Eastern playoff picture, though Cleveland remains just a couple games out. Unless Linsanity disappears completely, there's little chance the Cavs will get back into the mix. Despite that, this is a much improved team, one that has an absolute stud in Rookie of the Year frontrunner Kyrie Irving and that is getting more out of veteran Antawn Jamison.

What does Cleveland do well? The club is excellent on the offensive glass, No. 3 in the league. But the bulk of that work has come from Anderson Varejao, who is now out with an injury. Rookie Tristan Thompson has also been strong on the offensive glass, though. The other facet in which Cleveland excels is free throw rate; Irving and his backup Ramon Sessions are both solid at drawing foul shots, and the team is No. 9 in the league in that category.

But the Cavs don't shoot well and struggle to defend, something that Varejao's absence will exacerbate. This game could provide a great opportunity for DeMarcus Cousins and Tyreke Evans and, heck, everyone else on the Kings' roster.

The game's at 3. Game threads will magically appear at 3 and 4:30. Let's go Kings!

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Anticipating a big game from IT

Would love to see him compete number one vs mr irrelevant. Also big game from hickson? Maybe the familiarity of the court and surroundings will remind him how to catch a ball and put it strong into the hoop. these types of games can bring out the best in players so we shall see. I’d love to also see some subs after 8 minutes to get a better rotation in than everyone playing first quarter.

by larry_funderburke on Feb 19, 2012 11:19 AM PST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Wow you guys love you some Isiah

I think you overvalue him a little. Reminds me of the Jon Brockman love you guys had a few years ago. Hard work and hustle don’t always = actual production. I.T is shooting in the low 30% range. Good sparkplug off the bench, but if he is indeed the starting PG, then your team is in trouble.

by Nbawriter on Feb 19, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

watch him play, not his stat sheet

and yes, we are desperate to throw bb affection somewhere, anywhere.

by betweentheeyes on Feb 19, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Couldn't agree more

If you look at the per 36 minute stats on Thomas and Jimmer, the differences are negligible in every single category. Yet IT is a hero to Kings fans and Jimmer is practically a pariah. Now, I get that IT is a better defender and that he brings some “intangibles” but at the end of the day, I believe that numbers don’t lie and the numbers say that the two are pretty similar.

Thomas is so much more liked for a few reasons. One, he’s short and people always root for the short guy in the NBA. Two, he hustles and people love hustle. He honestly reminds me of Pooh Jeter and Pooh was a fan favorite too.

At the end of the day, if we’re putting our hopes in IT for the future Kings PG, that’s pretty sad.

Can we trade Tyreke for Rondo already???

by deadenddude on Feb 19, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

IT PER is 15.50 Jimmer is 11.14

And if you don’t like ESPN PER stats, we can go with EFF ratings where IT is +7.21 where Jimmer’s is +5.81. Jimmer is a better shooter, but IT is light years ahead of him on the defensive end right now

by elSAVinator on Feb 19, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

not to mention

Jimmer was the #10 pick and IT was the last pick in the 2nd round.

by TTown Kings on Feb 19, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Not putting hopes into IT

But yes I LOVE hustle and love watching him not back down. Also I’m a jimmer guy but love the contagious hustle IT brings right now so why not let it infect everyone.

by larry_funderburke on Feb 19, 2012 12:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Do you watch the games?

Forget stats all I knows is the team plays better when IT is on the floor. Especially Tyreke & DMC. Jimmer not so much.

I agree IT is maybe a little overrated by us but it’s only because this team is desperate for a real PG that pushes the ball. I love Reke but he is not that & neither is Jimmer.

by Allbenji on Feb 19, 2012 1:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I bet the Knicks fans said the same thing about LIN

At the end of the day, if we’re putting our hopes in IT for the future Kings PG, that’s pretty sad.

How about we let him play more then 15 games before we declare he’s not an NBA quality starting PG. He looks pretty good to me.

by elSAVinator on Feb 19, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

He looks good to me too

Very impressive tonight. I’m not hating on the guy, I hope he proves me wrong and becomes the Kings PG of the future.

by deadenddude on Feb 19, 2012 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

He actually has the 3rd highest PER on our team at 15.50

Right behind DMC 21.57, Reke 16.95 and above Thorton slightly 15.43. A lot of people on this site like IT because he promotes ball movement. A PG’s shooting % is probably one of the stats I could care less about if he plays good D and runs the team well (which IT needs to improve in the halfcourt).

by elSAVinator on Feb 19, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Rajon Rondo is a 25% 3 point shooter

And a 60% free throw shooter. Not comparing him to Rondo of course but just say shooting percentage doesn’t say everything

by Allbenji on Feb 19, 2012 1:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

How utterly incredulous!

On DeMarcus Cousins - "Should he just be renamed Player of the Week?" HeuristicLineup

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 19, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

That's why we love Isaiah.

"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!

by caseycheesecake on Feb 20, 2012 12:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Omri where are you now that we need you?

I must admit that I didn’t know much about Cleveland before I started to write this preview other than Omri Casspi plays there and they also have this guy Kyle Irving. Cleveland has the 10th best record in the Eastern Conference at 11-17; three games better than Detroit. They are 6-8 at home and 4-4 against the West.

They are only 4-6 in the last 10 but that was one rough schedule for 10 games. They split a pair with Boston, lost to Miami twice and once to Orlando , lost to Milwaukee and Philadelphia; beat Dallas, the Clippers and Indiana. They accomplished this feat with the 9th worst Offense (the Kings are 5th worst) and the 11th worst Defense (the Kings are the 4th worst).

They have the 3rd best Off Reb Rate (Kings have 2nd best) and they have the 7th best Def Reb Rate (Kings have the 3rd worst). With two excellent PG’s (Irving and Ramon Sessions) running the offense, Cleveland has a surprisingly below average Assist Rate and above average Turnover Rate. But when they are on, expect some absolutely astounding numbers; low turnovers and high offensive rebounds leads to more FGA’s and more easy assisted baskets at the rim. Think Phoenix, NY and Chicago all over again.

Omri is still finding his way. In 28 games he’s only scored in double figures 9 times with his highest point total being 14. He’s started all 28 games and is averaging 7.8pts 3.2rebs on 41% field 31% from three and only 59% from the FT line. His front-court mates are Anderson Varejao at Center and Antawn Jamison at PF. Jamison is 2nd to Irving in scoring with 16.6pts and 6.1reb on 42% field and 35% from three. Varejao is the leading rebounder averaging a double double with 10.8pts and 11.5 rebs per game. Irving leads all scorers with 18.2pts and 5 asts on 49% field and 41% from three.

Ninth year player 6-6 210lb guard Anthony Parker, started the season at SG, and averaged 6pts 2rebs 2asts. Parker hasn’t played since the Jan 29th win over Boston out with a lower back strain. Guard Mychel Thompson started the next 3 games but then was waived. Six foot six 210lb forward Alonzo Gee took over the SG duties for one game until 6-2 Daniel Gibson got the job for the next 4 games until he suffered a sprained left ankle and so for the last game Gee got the job back. So as of this writing, Parker and Gibson are inactive, Thompson is waived (Mychel not Tristen), and Forward Alonzo Gee is the starting SG

Center Anderson Varejao suffered a sprained right wrist injury in a collision with Mike Dunleavy Jr. 3 games ago. A MRI later revealed a fracture that will keep Varejao out indefinitely. So, the new starting center is 7-0 240lb 2nd year pro from Turkey Semih Erden. As a starter Erden is averaging 8pt 5rebs in 20mpg, and is only shooting 44% from the FT Line. Ryan Hollins is playing the backup minutes at center, with rookie Tristan Thompson and Luke Harangody getting the Forward minutes. Along with Sessions, 2nd year guard 6-3 Ben Uzoh is taking the back-court bench minutes.

Since Varejao went out the Cav’s are 1-2 with their one win coming against Indiana. Indiana dominated the boards but wasted their 12 extra possessions by shooting 38%, with Cleveland shot 47% and 10 of 27 from three for 37% to take the 11pt victory. Irving and Sessions are shooting better than 41% from 3, and Jamison & Gee are shooting 35%. And, while Omri is only shooting 31%, it didn’t stop him from going 3 for 7 from beyond the arc in the Indiana game. With the Kings more than likely dominating the paint, I could see the Cav’s taking bombs away from 3 as their strategy to stay in the game. That’s only if Irving and Sessions don’t pull off a Linsanity on us. Both those guards are capable of setting up their bigs for easy baskets at the rim. So, the Kings better get ready to defense the pick and roll, and the paint or else Erden may be the next unknown to look like an All-Star against the Kings.

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by HighTops on Feb 19, 2012 12:22 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I'm still waiting...but no longer patiently

It’s time for this team shit or get off the pot, so to speak. We’ve been cutting them slack for years with the YOUTH excuse. We’re getting to the point now where they’re getting old enough and experienced enough that the YOUTH excuse no longer flies. Tyreke is a 3rd year player. Thornton is a 3rd year player who had two years of college. JT is a fourth year player. Jimmer is a rookie but had four years of college. Outlaw, Hayes, Garcia, Salmons, all vets. This isn’t a team full of 19 year old rookies. These guys should be better than they are.

Ironically, the two guys who the YOUTH excuse would most apply to, Cousins and Thomas, are the two Kings players that are playing their best. Just goes to prove that it’s not how old you are, but how good you are that counts.

by deadenddude on Feb 19, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

older than Jimmer too

although just by 18 days (Jimmer’s birthday is coming up on the 25th)

by wallywagon11 on Feb 19, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya, I'd say the youth excuse is still valid when you have 10 players 25 and under...

Cousins: 21
Tyreke: 22
Jimmer: 22
Donte: 23(for 2 more days)
JJ: 23
Honeycutt: 21
Thomas: 23
Thompson: 25
Thornton: 24
Whiteside: 22

Garcia: 31
Hayes: 28
Outlaw: 27
Salmons: 32

by HeuristicLineup on Feb 19, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

But then you look at teams like the Thunder and Timberwolves

Thunder

Durant 24
Harden 23
Ibaka 23
Aldrich 24
Westbrook 24
Maynor 25
Jackson 22
Cook 25

Timberwolves

Beasly 23
Ellington 25
Johnson 25
Randolph – 23
Williams 21
Love 23
Rubio 22
Lee 22

And suddenly the youth card doesn’t seem quite as valid.

by deadenddude on Feb 19, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok of you don't like the Thunder comparison, the Timberwolves still apply

They’re almost identical in age to the Kings when adjusted for time playedhttp://thehoopdoctors.com/online2/2012/01/oldest-and-youngest-teams-in-the-nba/ not to mention their young core has actually had less time together. Yet, they’re 15 and 16, Kings are 10 and 20. They’ve been competitive in most games, the Kings have been blown out at least ten times this year. Talent wise Love/Rubio is comparable to Cousins/Evans. So, why si their team so much better?

by deadenddude on Feb 19, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Does that playing time adjustment account for how long Rubio's been playing professionally?

And aside from Kevin Love, isn’t this the first year where we’ve seen anything remotely promising out of Minnesota?

by jveezy on Feb 19, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think it factors in pre-NBA experiance

I’m not claiming that youth isn’t a factor with the Kings, I’m just saying that it’s overused as an excuse and that there are other young teams proving that young doesn’t have to translate to bad.

by deadenddude on Feb 19, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

The weighted for minutes played is the more important stat

Doesn’t really matter if you have old guys on your team if they don’t play. If you look at the ten youngest teams weighted for minutes played I count four good teams, Pacers, Thunder, Grizzlies, and 76ers, two decent teams, Timberwolves and Rockets, and four bad teams, Kings, Wizards, Bobcats, Warriors.

by deadenddude on Feb 19, 2012 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Good point I was looking at the left side of the column

No doubt that I had higher expectations for the team as well this year, but I still think our future is bright. We still have the most cap space, a top 5 pick coming and a complete STUD in DMC.

by elSAVinator on Feb 19, 2012 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed about the future but i think the pick will end up being 5-10

The have 2/3 home games after the all star break. I expect them to end up around 25-30 wins which is out of range for top 5 unless they just get lucky.

by deadenddude on Feb 19, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

25-30 wins??

I’m thinking between 20-23

by elSAVinator on Feb 19, 2012 7:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Something like 21 of 33 at home after the all star break

mostly against beatable teams too. I’m figuring they go just over .500 in the hoe games, so figure about 12 or 13 wins there. Then I figures 3 or 4 road wins making for a total of 16-17 wins in the second half. Not that I think the Kings are that good but the schedule is a piece of cake compared to the first half.

by deadenddude on Feb 20, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Soooo.

Thunders best players 24,24,23,23
Wolves best players 23,22,23, 31
Kings best players 21,22

I hate the comparison to the Thunder too. They are the exception, not the rule. They have a guy named KEVIN DURANT. He is one of the top 3 players in the league! We don’t have a top 20 player in the league.

by elSAVinator on Feb 19, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't dispute that the kings were the youngest

However, the difference between youngest and 3rd youngest, 5th youngest, etc. is negligible. You’re talking about less than a year difference there.

by deadenddude on Feb 19, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

If you want to get technical,

a basketball season is also less than a year. So less than a year can be a whole season.

"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!

by caseycheesecake on Feb 19, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm too lazy to do it

but just for kicks someone should see how many NBA games the Timberwolves best players have played vs. how many the Kings best players have played.

by deadenddude on Feb 19, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Chuck Hayes will have a monster game

proving to the rest of the NBA the Kings had the best off season free agent acquisition of any team. Yes, 1 game will prove all this. Put your seat belts on King’s fans Chuck-sanity is about to change your world!

"What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger" Some bad ass dude.

by Ba-Da Bing on Feb 19, 2012 1:26 PM PST reply actions  

Or UpChuck...

Remember I don't give a flying fuck!

by kromeace on Feb 19, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The Chuckwagon needs to be repaired.

Damn thing’s broken down because it was carrying too much weight then it could handle.

by DiegoKing on Feb 19, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Chuck hayes

Another so so signing by Petrie. Strange to me how well Petrie evaluates draft talent, but he consistently misses on free agent after free agent. He is about 50-50 on trades. Does well shedding salaries- but some deals just cause some head scratching. Salmons comes to mind. The kmart deal I wasn’t a huge fan of.

by Nbawriter on Feb 19, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

We need this guy:

http://www.wimp.com/basementbasketball/

"We're not talking about me and Darko in the same sentence." - Chris Webber vs KAHN!

by caseycheesecake on Feb 19, 2012 2:55 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Tremendous athlete

Don’t let Petrie see this or he sign him to a 6 year 36 million dollar deal

by Nbawriter on Feb 19, 2012 3:07 PM PST reply actions  

It will grow.

On DeMarcus Cousins - "Should he just be renamed Player of the Week?" HeuristicLineup

by Slam_Dunk on Feb 19, 2012 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

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