City Council Vote On Sacramento Arena Delayed To March 6
The Sacramento City Council will not vote on the proposed funding plan involving city parking facilities to build a new entertainment and sports complex downtown until March 6. KCRA's David Bienick was the first to report the news. The city is negotiating with the NBA and AEG through March 1 in an attempt to put together a term sheet that would go before the nine-member Council for approval.
That vote was originally scheduled for February 28, but in the interest of working with the NBA through March 1 and in giving the members of the Council enough time to review the plan, the mayor's office elected to delay the vote. The March 1 deadline is actually an NBA construct, so as long as commissioner David Stern is willing to delay the deadline for the Maloofs to file for relocation, there's no issue in missing that.
Kevin Johnson is expected to meet with Stern in Orlando at All-Star Weekend in the next few days. City staff has worked for weeks to get this deal done, but it'd still need what could prove to be a tough affirmative vote from the City Council.
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Not that surprising
Considering the city counsil is not getting the offers until Monday. Hopefully there are no hiccups over the weekend and evrything can continue moving forward.
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by kangsfan on Feb 22, 2012 1:37 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Not surprising
Still difficult. I just want a deal to be passed and for all of this drama to be behind us. But if pushing back a few more days helps get the deal done, so be it. Whatever it takes.
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Safe move
Get more time to get that term sheet right and make sure it will pass through the council. Now it really comes down to this weekend’s negotitations
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eh not a good sign
obviously if they have to do it this way they have to do it this way
by wallywagon11 on Feb 22, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think it's not good
It kind of makes sense. The hard hitting negotiation between the NBA and the city was always going to happen during the All-Star break, and that doesn’t give the City Council or public much time at all, especially if you spring a Term sheet on Monday.
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by Aykis16 on Feb 22, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
of course it makes sense
but it’s still not a good sign regardless of whether it makes sense
by wallywagon11 on Feb 22, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Agree
AEG and MS&E/NBA in disagreement over revenue split and contributions.
35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.
Even before you go that far down the road though
We’ve heard for awhile now from the local press about $200 million from parking and $130 million in private money in the form of $50 million from AEG around $80 million from the Maloofs/NBA.
And KJ has even said publicly that AEG would operate the ESC so there has to be some beginning of an agreement there at the very least. As for the parking, assuming the CIty already figured out the legality of leasing the parking meters (big if but they must feel comfortable thinking they can use the meter revenues to cover the $52 million in bond payments) it seems like the City is still struggling to come up with the $9 million hole in the general fund given the weird weekend phone poll.
And now here we are with the city doing everything they could get done and leading right up to the deadline still with funding issues to figure out outside of the $330 million or so they were planning to get from AEG/NBA/Kings/Parking and needing to hit around that mark and now we are left to wonder whether Stern is going to hold KJ over the barrel? Bullshit. Hopefully Stern corrects his remarks or backs off on this because he runs the risk of turning this into a mess pretty quick.
There is nothing out there right now to indicate that the parking deal has hit a snag other than the legality of leasing the parking meters.
And now Stern pulls the “their money is our money” bullshit? Wow, talk about “Hey, I know a way to completely destroy momentum as quickly as possible!” It wasn’t even in the context of revenue sharing yet, just putting up money to build the thing and yes I know they are tied together but that’s a pretty ballsy statement.
It seems quite clear that locally we are depending on around $80 million in total contributions from NBA/Maloofs which is a fantastic deal for the Kings. I don’t think Stern understands that they can lose the vote if he
Those numbers have been public for a long while and KJ has been talking to the league a lot. KJ appears to have the parking numbers lined up. KJ got AEG lined up. I don’t know if KJ can find a deal to firmly replace the 9 million that will get 5 votes, but I’ll bet he can. Now the NBA has the leverage and they are pulling hard on a deal that’s held together with tape and paper clips.
They city has done everything they can simply to make a deal. Not to make the best deal they can try to make, just make a deal. The NBA and Maloofs already have a very good deal on the table. On Thursday, it appeared we had 5-6 yes votes.
I think Stern has taken this from 70-30 to 50-50 just to try to get another 5-8 million for two dummies that have almost killed basketball in this city. That’s just by pissing people off and pushing back KJ’s deadline. And if he really plays hardball, he could misread the cards and kill the deal.
At this point, if the deal fails. A lot of the blood is on Stern. Yes, the city botched this for a decade. But they were ready to make a a great deal, and the numbers and timeline were out there for months. And then 7 days before the deadline, Stern is making public comments that while “substaintial,” he’s not going to hit KJ’s number.
Yes, it’s business and posturing. But this deal was only going to get done if everybody was collaberative and rushed. And now Stern is stalling and playing hard ball … because it’s not like he had any problems with that in 2011.
by wallywagon11 on Feb 22, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
damn it
sorry I was trying to copy and paste Larry David over at Kingsfans and it got mixed up. Sorry, hold on
by wallywagon11 on Feb 22, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Okay
Essentially, I think Larry David at Kingsfans has a point here
They city has done everything they can simply to make a deal. Not to make the best deal they can try to make, just make a deal. The NBA and Maloofs already have a very good deal on the table. On Thursday, it appeared we had 5-6 yes votes.
I think Stern has taken this from 70-30 to 50-50 just to try to get another 5-8 million for two dummies that have almost killed basketball in this city. That’s just by pissing people off and pushing back KJ’s deadline. And if he really plays hardball, he could misread the cards and kill the deal.
by wallywagon11 on Feb 22, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
I read the Stern thing not as dire
Still believe both parties know they have 110 million in cash to come up with, and yes, maybe negotiations between MS&E/NBA and AEG have gotten a little tense but I do not believe that either side is going to let the deal go south when they both stand to make an enormous amount of $ when it is complete.
The Maloofs may be holding back the card that they can not go all in because they are short on funds, but it thats the card they have left in their hand it will be played before 3/1 and they will be out of the deal.
35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.
by ElRonToro on Feb 22, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah sorry my comment wasn't meant to be quite as dire as it reads, my browser is frakked
and I meant to delete a lot of it.
by wallywagon11 on Feb 22, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
My lifes been a little frakked lately
so sympathy from me
35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.
to be honest
Kind of wish I could delete this comment. My browser was incredibly screwed up for some reason and I couldn’t exactly see what I deleted or typed or anything and it is a big thing of goo.
Meant to end it at three paragraphs and then a small quote from elsewhere. Oh well, sorry.
by wallywagon11 on Feb 22, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
I'm concerned about
Stern’s comment about AEG’s contribution being counted as the King’s contribution. If the King’s contribution then only ends up being $35million instead of $85 million, how does this deal get done?
Or is this simply posturing on Stern’s part? Or am I just being a ninny?
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No one really knows to be honest
You can read into his statement several ways. All we really know for sure is he wants AEG contributions to be considered NBA/Maloof contributions or “team contributions”. He never actually states that AEG contributions would replace the need for NBA/Maloof contributions which would be an issue. I’ve decided I won’t worry about it until we see the number.
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I agree Kevin.
Stern is not going to walk into any negotiations thinking that an NBA club would get an arena built with a $1 million a year lease – owner/tenant, it doesn’t matter, even if that money is up front.
The “private” number is $130 million. I don’t care if Stern wants the AEG money called “part of the Kings contribution” or not, as long as they pay $50 mill and the Kings/NBA pay the remaining $80 mill.
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I also am not worrying about this yet
The last thing we want is the Council being pushed to vote on an issue when the terms aren’t reasonably clear, we know how that would turn out.
The numbers will refine themselves over the next week and we’ll know where everyone stands.
I’d also point out that Seattle (our biggest worry IMO) is counting on significant rental contributions from two teams, NBA and NHL before they’d consider building an Arena.
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by lietothegirls on Feb 22, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
It's some BS
If the Maloofs gave $85 million for the 30 year lease, then they would pay about $2.8 mil a year. It’s not too bad compared to reports of other arenas (or maybe it was our previous arena proposal) that require something like $7 mil a year as owners.
Now Stern implies that the NBA wants to pull a Maloof and only charge the Maloofs $35 mil (or $1.16 mil annually). Unless Stern clarifies his statements and says the Maloofs/NBA/AEG will equal at least $135 mil, then I don’t see any good faith on the Maloofs/NBA in this whole process.
by SharkKings49 on Feb 22, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, since they'd likely have to borrow the entire $85 million...
And I have no idea what the interest rate would be, but at 5% I think that their annual lease payment would be equivalent to about $5.5 million
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of the 85 is MS&E Natomas land which the city will need to revitalize Natomas before this is over. The question is, is 60 million , 30 years of pre-paid lease , or is it a buy in + a lease agreement? I think it might be the former.
If it is then the revenue streams should be treated just as if a little better that an univested tenant with a 2 million dollar a year lease agreement
35 and 31. I'm calling it now. Reke and Cousins 1-2 in most improved award both All-stars. Jimmer leads rookies in scoring, passing and Ole's. Make 2nd round of playoffs and Salmons is not here by seasons end.
Who would give them the loan?
Not sure if the Kings could even get a loan if they are maxed out with the NBA loan and also owe the city of Sac about $70 mil. If you add $60 mil (removing the $25 mil for land) on top of what they owe, then their debt is pretty close to becoming greater than the value of the team.
I hope we get a better picture of the NBA’s stance on the whole up front payment soon. At that point we would hopefully know if the NBA is on our side or the Maloofs side, and also if the NBA will loan the Maloofs money or if they will be urged to sell.
by SharkKings49 on Feb 22, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
I think it's Positive
why would they allow more time if they didn’t think a deal was possible?
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by Howard Nevens IV on Feb 22, 2012 2:23 PM PST reply actions
I don't like this.
Then again my thought process has been that when the city released that $50 mil / $80 mil number they had some idea that AEG and the NBA was tentatively on board. And even with that there was still some big gaps.
Here’s to hoping this weekend goes smoothly.
by Crocoduck on Feb 22, 2012 2:23 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I don't know what to think.
This deadline has been in place for a long time, so all the parties involved have been aware of it, including the Maloofs. The fact something hasn’t been worked out by the March 1 deadline is concerning. I am kind of thinking like Wally, that this isn’t a good thing, because it shows all the ducks were not in a row by this date.
That said. This doesn’t surprise me in the least, as I mentioned previously, this story may take a lot of twists and turns before all is said and done. This was one of the reasons why I was so concerned about the timing Seattle voicing their interest for the Kings. We just don’t know what lies ahead.
Hopefully, this will all just a minor blip. I just don’t trust Stern.
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by Howard Nevens IV on Feb 22, 2012 2:31 PM PST reply actions
I'm getting a sinking feeling again
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by Mike Garza on Feb 22, 2012 2:42 PM PST via Android app reply actions
After looking at the timeline they laid out in the statement
Im not nearly as worried about thus as I was. A lot of this is posturing I think. The major sticking points would seem to be in order otherwise they wouldn’t leave it to this late. Would they?
by Lotusprime on Feb 22, 2012 3:11 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I don't get how people think this is bad news
every article I have seen is positive. It is on the front page of the espn NBA page saying that a deal is close.
You have to remember - we are all Sacramento Kings fans
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lol too true
Honestly I’ve pretty much boycotted espn for the last couple of years now.
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No need to abandon ship...
I think the best way to categorize the news is Not as “Good” or “Bad”, but rather as a “No Duh”. I think we have all seen that Stern first and foremost is a negotiator at heart. Right wrong or indifferent.
With a complex combination of a new ESC, a lot of money, the success / failure of a region and the legacy of a once wealthy and now flailing family all at stake i would expect nothing less than thorough negotiations from all parties. There IS a middle ground and we have to hope that the deal makes sense for all parties. If anything, Sterns words seem more ominous to AEG / MS&E in my opinion because he basically is saying they are one in the same and EVERYONE already knows the amount the city requested as the delta amount to get this done.
I am glad we have an extra 5 days now for the council to weigh the term sheet. Had it just been submitted without a reasonable review period Sheedy and others could have simply voted “No” without “knowing all the facts” and been justified in doing so. Here’s a chance to negotiate for another week, dial this deal in, let the public / council digest the info and ultimately make the best decision for this town. We all HOPE it involves a new ESC, but lets all take a look at the numbers first and make an informed decision.
Let’s all just take a deep breath and hope for the best.
by Porter02 on Feb 22, 2012 4:09 PM PST reply actions 1 recs

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