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GAME 34 vs Memphis, Preview & Game Thread

MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES (10-24)  102.9 ORtg (#15), 107.0 DRtg (#28), 96.9 Pace (# 8)
SACRAMENTO KINGS  (13-20)  101.2 ORtg (#16), 104.5 DRtg (#24), 95.8 Pace (#11)
BALLHYPE | NBA.com PREVIEW

I traded insight with the fellows from 3 Shades of Blue. My request was an assessment of Mike Conley's early performance running the show. Here's ChipC3's take:

Derek Fisher went off for 26 points including 5-5 from the arc and held Conley to 5-15 shooting while daring him to hit the outside shot by dropping 5-10 ft off of Conley and looking to steal any inbound passes. Welcome to the NBA Mr. Conley.

There were bright spots however. Derek Fisher isn't going to be that hot nor is any point guard in the NBA on a nightly business. When Conley did take the ball to the rack he made some nice plays in cluding a Nash-like run through the lane turn and head back out only to shoot a no look pass to Darko for a dunk as the defense moved up to stay with Conley. Mike still needs to develop the outside shot so teams respect that and play a little more under control at times but all in all not a bad game for the 20 yr old's fourth start.

Basically Conley is going to shock teams at first with his speed and pass first mentality but he still needs work on slowing the game down in his head, how to defend different people and gain confidence in his shot. He's a couple of years away from being very good and probably 5 years away from being great and that is only if he continues to work on his game but he seems very mature and isn't rattled easily. I think he will be great one day along the lines of a Parker ( but not so much a scorer) or Nash ( but not quite so intuitive a passer). While being a little different than both players he may one day belong in this company when talking about pure point guards.


Beno Udrih isn't a quick mover side-to-side, and Conley should be able to burn him a few times. With the lack of a shotblocker 39 minutes a night (what up, 3-Wil!) there really is no disincentive to penetrate, penetrate, penetrate when you're facing the Kings. That said, Sacramento's swings and bigs have played the passing lanes very well the past week; the number of easy steals has been a bit outrageous, but it might say more about the carelessness of the opponents rather than some brilliant line of communication between Brad Miller and John Salmons.

Pau Gasol can score in the post any time he wants against this team. Here's to hoping he doesn't want to score in the post. Rudy Gay poses another set of problems, and Mike Miller can shoot from section214's seats.

Game's at 7. Go Kings.

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No brainer pick...
The Kings have won 21 straight against the Grizzlies at ARCO. The Kings are coming off what I feel is the win of the year against the Orlando Magic.

The Kings continue to be feisty even if games are too close for comfort. I see the Kings playing a good game tonight and grabbing the win.

It also helps when the Kings are 1-0 when I put on the 4XL Kevin Martin Home White Jersey.

I'm not going to call guaranteed win night but I do think we have an excellent shot. The Grizzlies are a poor defensive team and Salmons, Garcia and Udrih could have field day against them.

LET'S GO KINGS!!

The Sacramento Kings: Where Amazing Happens!

by kingme18 on Jan 10, 2008 3:34 PM PST   0 recs

Dahntay Jones
You think he has something to prove tonight? Looking forward to one of his crashing thunderdunks.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Jan 10, 2008 3:51 PM PST   0 recs

oh, please!
Dahntay, say yes. Dunkfest, if he so does please, would me so well please.

by iashwash on Jan 10, 2008 4:07 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I don't care if we've beaten the Griz
at Arco 3,000 times in a row, it really means nothing.

Take the Clippers game back in December at Arco for example. We usually dominate the Clippers at home, but we managed to lose to them by 10 points. And it wasn't even that close. I thought for sure that was an automatic win.

by evanmeagan on Jan 10, 2008 5:49 PM PST   0 recs

so....
Do you own a Greg Lloyd Pittsburg Steelers Jersey?

by Hoops916 on Jan 10, 2008 8:35 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

No.
Good question though.

by evanmeagan on Jan 10, 2008 11:24 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Spencer Hawes..
a +5 in 8 minutes. Play the man 40 minutes a game and you're bound to win by at least 20.

Oh. And the Kings are trailing at the half, 56-54, with both teams shooting 50% or better.

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by louismg on Jan 10, 2008 8:22 PM PST   0 recs

Brad Miller got the 1st O board too Louis
When would you have been able to say that?
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 8:28 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Well... in tonight's game.
He's at 6 minutes, according to Yahoo!. I said 8 minutes. I was thinking 8 x 6 and messing it up. 8  x +5=+40. Give him 8 minutes on the bench to rest, and you still win by 35, minus 5 points for the other team to come back, and you win by 30.
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by louismg on Jan 10, 2008 8:44 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Kings
I never thought I'd say this but the Kings without Artest, Bibby, SAR and even Martin (let's include Kmart in the list) actually look pretty decent.They blew out the Knicks for crying out loud.

I just wanna know what you guys think about this - does Minny's future look better than ours? I think I'm leaning towards the Kings on this one

by kingme on Jan 10, 2008 8:39 PM PST   0 recs

If Minny got a Derrick Rose type
I think they would have maybe a tad better future depending on how quickly Corey Brewer develops.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 8:43 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

who?
whos is Minny? Minnesota?

by Hoops916 on Jan 10, 2008 8:45 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I was referring to Minny Mouse
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 8:46 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I don't get it...
I assume your being sarcastic and talking about Minnesota?

by Hoops916 on Jan 10, 2008 8:52 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

If I have to explain it then what's the point?
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 8:53 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

you..
Don't have to explain it, I was just checkin..

I just hope Porty slows down at somepoint this season with their streak. And Kings James can get some help out in Cleevy. I'm just watching the Phoenny and Utty game right now on TNT cause I'm outta town on business,Not a bad game, and can't get our game. I'll stop with the acronems

by Hoops916 on Jan 10, 2008 8:57 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Sigh
Cleveland = Cle
Portland = Rip City
Utah = Utah
Phoenix = Phx

Just so you know

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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:01 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Thanks...
For the update Champ! The point I was trying to make light of is that Minny is not a common name for Minnesota....And you know that! Thats why you tried (very unsuccessfully) to pull off the Minny Mouse joke!

At least Kingme found it funny and understood I was making light of his slanguage!

by Hoops916 on Jan 10, 2008 9:05 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

hmm
I actually thought Minny was pretty common. At least more recognizable than Rip City. Anyway, can we just focus on the game? :o

by kingme on Jan 10, 2008 9:08 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

It wasn't funny
Chris Rock is funny. Louis CK is funny. The Simpsons is funny. Futurama is funny. The Family Guy is funny.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:08 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Spencer Hawes'
Mobility is funny!

by Hoops916 on Jan 10, 2008 9:10 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

lol
I was referring to Minnesota. The team with the worst record this season

by kingme on Jan 10, 2008 9:00 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Quincy Douby!Quincy Douby!Quincy Douby!
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 8:52 PM PST   0 recs

Mike Miller
This guy is on fire. I've always enjoyed watching him play. He's so unselfish and rebounds the ball pretty well.

by kingme on Jan 10, 2008 8:53 PM PST   0 recs

I'm surprised Pat Riley hasn't made a play for him
I really am.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 8:54 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Riley should want him
I doubt Mem wants another PG though. Seriously, what does Mia have to offer. They are so screwed right now. Knicks or Heat? LOL

by kingme on Jan 10, 2008 9:02 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Uhm.......Go Team?
(I'd choose the Heat cuz of Wade but his injury history scares me.)
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:03 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Wow Dahntay Jones fouled out
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 8:56 PM PST   0 recs

The Grizzlies athleticism is taking over
Combined with the kings lack of patience and ball movement has proved to be a fatalistic way to approach this game.
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:01 PM PST   0 recs

Can you imagine Yao Gay and McGrady?
Too bad they didn't want to waste McGrady's prime by waiting on Gay. It only took what? a year?

by kingme on Jan 10, 2008 9:04 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Well
Battier is probably a better fit becuz what Gay and McGrady do well would be sort of redundant. Given Gay and McGrady's status whom do you think would get the ball if both are in the game. That's the long answer.

The short answer is you need stars and guys who allow your stars to be that. Battier is one of the latter.

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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:06 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

The problem is
there are rumors that T-Mac is already frustrated with the rockets. At this point in Tracy's career, I'd rather build around Gay and Yao than T-mac and Yao

by kingme on Jan 10, 2008 9:09 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Now that is a fair statement
But that's also not what you originally said. And I agree with the Gay vs Tmac sentiment also. Rudy Gay Shane Battier and Yao Ming would all work together well.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:13 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Barkley...
Just listed his 5 favorite Kings players of all-time on the TNT half time show. As follows;

Webber
Divac
The Rock
Theus
Doug Christie's Wife

True Story!

by Hoops916 on Jan 10, 2008 9:02 PM PST   0 recs

Dangerous territory...
When you're down by as many points as there are minutes left in the game... that spells trouble.
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by louismg on Jan 10, 2008 9:03 PM PST   0 recs

Nothing like building confidence when you're
coming apart at the seams.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:05 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Actually
1 point per min is not bad. They just need to be patient

by kingme on Jan 10, 2008 9:06 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

down 5 with 5:49 left
we're good. we're due for a 4th quarter comeback right?

by kingme on Jan 10, 2008 9:13 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Salmons > Gay
at least in this game

by kingme on Jan 10, 2008 9:10 PM PST   0 recs

Rudy Gay has 26 tonight
That's not a great way to win a ballgame if you're the Kings.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:16 PM PST   0 recs

Brad hasn't shot well
But he's playing well. Nice pass to Lobster Claw.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:18 PM PST   0 recs

Rudy Gay has 28 on 8 of 12 shooting
Welcome to Arco Kid.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:18 PM PST   0 recs

we're still good
down 1 with 2mins left

by kingme on Jan 10, 2008 9:20 PM PST   0 recs

1 point game!
106-105 with 1:42 left. I smell a magical finish. Douby? Hawes? 3-Will?
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by louismg on Jan 10, 2008 9:21 PM PST   0 recs

Hawes maybe
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:22 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

But it's going to be Douby
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:22 PM PST   0 recs

Poor offensive possession
That is not a way to get a quality shot passing it back & forth between Udrih and Salmons.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:23 PM PST   0 recs

Wow all im going to say is wow
Gay is on fire. At least the kings are only down 2.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:24 PM PST   0 recs

Rudy Gay
9 of 13 4 of 7 from 3.....wow is all im going to say.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:26 PM PST   0 recs

The door is open
The question who gets the open shot?
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:27 PM PST   0 recs

See
getting 2 points is easier. Why jack up 3s? That goes for Mem too, they are in the lead for crying out loud

by kingme on Jan 10, 2008 9:27 PM PST   0 recs

Down by 3...
Who makes the shot?
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by louismg on Jan 10, 2008 9:27 PM PST   0 recs

You copied me kinda :P
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:28 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Kinda.
When we're both tepidly watching... trying not to care... we're both stating the obvious without enthusiasm.
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by louismg on Jan 10, 2008 9:32 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Memphis is 13 of 28 from 3 for 46%
Kings are 4 for 16 for 25%--nice shot by Douby too.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:29 PM PST   0 recs

Down by 2...
16 seconds...
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by louismg on Jan 10, 2008 9:32 PM PST   0 recs

Louis are you watching or listening?
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:32 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Neither. Kings hate me. I'm clearly behind you.
I've been living through Yahoo! sports for the time I've been on STR. My market only shows Golden State.
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by louismg on Jan 10, 2008 9:34 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Louis I know this but.....
Surely living in Silicon Valley (or thereabouts) would afford you the golden opportunity to buy LP doesn't it?
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:39 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

It's an option...
but not a priority. Sometimes I think about it, but it hasn't happened yet.
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by louismg on Jan 10, 2008 9:57 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

It wasn't a criticism Just merely curiosity asking
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 10:00 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I didn't take it as criticism...
As much as I care about the Kings, and being active here (which I am failing at), I haven't stepped up there.
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by louismg on Jan 10, 2008 10:18 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I didnt think you took it as that
And not being active is something understandable. I can't say anything about that (as I logged onto the blog when it first started and then didn't post anything on here for a year & half).
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 11:28 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Door is open ladies & germs
The question at this point is: Who do you give the ball first to create a shot? And does that player give it up for an open option? The things that make you go hmmmm.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:32 PM PST   0 recs

Give it up for the Cisco kid
That was clutch.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:33 PM PST   0 recs

I 2nd this motion sir
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:34 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I cant watch, away from TV
Please someone update as soon as it goes final!!

by Hoops916 on Jan 10, 2008 9:34 PM PST   0 recs

kings up 1 with 3.8 secs left
They have to inbound the ball left. Memphis has no TO's left. The kings have to screw this up badly to lose. 114-113 kings.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:36 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Miller is at the line for 2
Memphis has no TO's also. Brad makes his 1st.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:37 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Garcia!!!!
Whoa.
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by louismg on Jan 10, 2008 9:34 PM PST   0 recs

great defense
the kings got this in the bag assuming they can inbound
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:35 PM PST   0 recs

Salmons - big game
28, 11 and 7.
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by louismg on Jan 10, 2008 9:35 PM PST   0 recs

Brad makes both!!!!
Great end of the game defense for Sacramento. Memphis showed why they're losing games. They have trouble closing games out.
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by pookeyguru on Jan 10, 2008 9:38 PM PST   0 recs

yes
yes we do have trouble closing out games.....lots of trouble...

by Zack on Jan 11, 2008 12:03 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

hmmm
Does this make artest bibby and martin redundant? It's a good thing a team needs at least an 8-man rotation

by kingme on Jan 10, 2008 9:38 PM PST   0 recs

Kings Win!
What a comeback. This would have been an embarrassing loss.
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by louismg on Jan 10, 2008 9:39 PM PST