This weeks Asinine trade thread Nov 23
This is the place for every well thought out idea, pipe dreams, or of wacky ill-advised nonsense. Trade for players you love, trade away players you hate. Just trade to make the team better without regard to emotion - or make it all about emotion. Complete the 10 trades or the massive 6 team trade that leaves us a roster of DHoward, Garnet, C Anthony, Dwade and CP3. (make that one work and you get a prize!)
Your choice - let 'er rip!
ESPN trade machine link is below
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Future Pillars of the Franchise
The guys that matter are Tyreke, Kevin, JT, Spencer, Garcia, maybe Casspi/Dé3 and Noc/Beno because of their contracts.
That’s what ForThree said in a very effective post in the Taking Stock thread, and I thought I’d start a discussion, perhaps premature but inevitable, on who fits where when our injured players return and we are at full strength.
There’s lots of versatility in the group ForThree isolates as the future pillars of the franchise:
* PGs: Tyreke, Beno, Garcia in a pinch.
* SGs: Tyreke, Kevin, Garcia, Casspi in a pinch.
* SFs: Nocioni, Casspi, Greene, Garcia, Kevin in a pinch.
* PFs: JT, Spencer, Nocioni, Greene.
* C: Spencer, JT.
I really think we need to find a way to get Casspi and Greene into the starting lineup eventually. I think Donte is going to have to learn to emerge as a power forward.
I really don't see minutes for Garcia at the 3 when he comes back and I frankly think he will be battling Beno for minutes when everyone is healthy. It wouldn't surprise me to see Beno and Tyreke continue to start as guards with Kevin as supersub and quick energy off the bench and Garcia playing maybe 10-20 minutes a game.
Nocioni is a quandary, and his contract probably makes him the one to go at some point. But until that point you still have to pencil him as the starter, particularly when the other team has a go-to scorer at the 3 or 4 that he matches up with well. Casspi and Donte still make youthful mistakes, but they also bring a nice set of skills into the game, particularly their ability to hit the three ball, which I’d like to see as a bigger part of our offense. We’re getting stripped a lot because of our emphasis on taking the ball to the cup, and I hope we evolve to more of the inside-out, quick around-the-horn passing game which we have used effectively at times this year.
That leaves JT and Spencer to man the big men positions with plenty of reserves. I’d really like to see us stick with the current crew and try to strengthen this area through the draft rather than taking on any huge contracts via trade unless a deal comes down that both makes us a better team and makes financial sense. Nothing that has been thrown out so far meets those two criteria in my eyes.
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The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly Week 4
Have any of you seen Grant Napear in broad daylight? I'm not saying, I'm just saying. But back to the Kings, oh how the mighty have fallen. After going 3-0 last week, the Kings did the exact opposite this week. But still, there were some good things to take from this week, especially considering we only had one game with our main rotation playing (and that's still without Kevin and Cisco).
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The League is Catching Up to Jason Thompson
After showing us a glimpse of the player he can become with five double-doubles and playing a key role in our four-game winning streak, it looks like the league is finally catching up to Jason Thompson.
He has regressed into some of last year's tendencies, of whining and moaning with each call and break that goes against him, and he seems to have lost some of the composure he displayed earlier in the year. Joakim Noah and Drew Gooden schooled him and outboarded him, and whoever he covered last night seemed to have no trouble getting to the rim or grabbing rebounds. The Rockets scored at will in the paint for the most part.
Meanwhile, JT had five rebounds last night, and the Kings third-quarter rally came with him riding pine and the Kings resuming their rebounding and defensive ways of their recent best play.
On Twitter the other day, JT said he was hoping to return to Dallas for All-Star weekend. Maybe it's time to shut down the All-Star talk, even for the sophomore game, stop reading the press clippings and this site, play your best, get back to being a double-double machine, help the Kings win and let the chips fall where they may.
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That was then...
I missed the game against Houston last night because I had an early thanksgiving celebration with some friends. Of course, I was checking the score on my blackberry constantly and thought the team was doing a great job at keping it close even without Reke. After learning he was out with the finger injury, I pretty much gave the team no chance of winning. When the Kings took the lead after the 3rd I was excited. Once again, these guys were showing how much they cared about playing hard and even after losing their main guy they were still finding ways to get the job done. Again, all these observation were being formed by just looking at the score and not really knowing what was happening on the floor.
The game ended up being a loss and I was ok with it. I thought the team fought and just couldn't find enough points at the end . Again, without knowing what happened, I was very proud of the team and expected to come home, read the threads, and see how they did in the eyes of you all. To my surprise, the game threads still had some negative comments about how awful they were playing and how bad we were being beat. I finally watched the recorded game to see what some were talking about and, considering our depleted rosted, I just didn't see it.
To me, it was as if most forgot that Tyreke was out and that our team was left with a bunch of average young players (average now) and average veterans. IMO this game should've been a loss before the game even started; we just didn't have enough healthy bodies to compete with a veteran scrappy Houston team. But the Kings did stay in it until the end, and yet some of us fans were still making statements such as "this is pathetic" or "I can't watch this much longer." Now I'll be the first to admit, I get sensitive about the criticism on this team, especially in game threads but I thought this was still a good intro (explanation) as to why I finally decided to look at what's to come after the jump.
For a while I wanted to compare this team, which we have so much hope for, to last year's team, the one we would like to erase form our memory forever. After getting frustrated with the constant lack of perspective and lack of appreciation (by some) for what these young guys are doing, I decided to find the numbers and present my results on some quick basic facts and stats about this year's Kings vs. last year's Kings. The following was not done to predict any future pattern this season, it was just a quick exercise to compare some of the numbers after 12 games of those two teams.
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NCAA Hoops Preview from the Kings' Perspective
Disclaimer -
It is not my intent to begin a discussion of the draft when nearly the entire regular season lies before us. My fandom is invested in the 09/10 season much like the rest of STR's membership. I am certainly not "giving up on the season." However, just as we knew going into last season that the team would likely address the point guard position - whether that was through the draft or otherwise - the same could be said this season in regard to finding an additional interior presence to compliment Shock and (perhaps light a fire under) Hawes. Of course, the franchise's intent to add such a player has been noticeably apparent through the trade rumors involving Emeka Okafor and Samuel Dalembert.
So, with the NCAA basketball season beginning, and many of us following both the Kings and college hoops, there are a few collegiate prospects that should be interesting to observe over the coming months.
I have narrowed it down to a list of ten players, of whom at least one could very well find himself catching lobs from Tyreke in the not so distant future.
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Searching for a backup center
With all of this talk about Samuel Dalembert & Emeka Okafor I decided to look around & see if I can come up with a better solution to our back-up center issue. My first thought was aquiring a young center by trading Kenny Thomas' expiring contract & taking back salary from another player that a team would like to get rid of. Unfortunately the centers I am looking at I couldn't find another salary that those teams would obviously want to get rid of that still made sense for us. Those centers are Javale McGee, Robin Lopez, & DeAndre Jordan. For example we trade K9 for Robin Lopez & Leandro Barbosa. I don't think the suns would sign off on this which is my point to this post.
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If the Kings Lose Tonight it's All My Fault...
Forget the likelihood of turnovers finally becoming too much to overcome (though the Bulls have committed just two less turnovers than the Kings, in the same amount of games), forget the possibility that we can't keep up this ridiculous offensive rebounding rate (13.89 per game, best in the NBA if I did the math right), even forget the propensity for former Kings players to have career nights against their former team (Tony Delk - 53pts, Jerome James - 17pts 15reb 5blocks, probably a few more) . All these are unsubstantiated mumbo jumbo brought to us by the stat hounds who in their need for order try to divine trends from vague numbers created by mathematical expressions so complex you would need a degree in psychoanalysis just to set your mind straight after you figured it all out.
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Break Down of New Possible Trade
ESPN and Marc Stein are reporthing that the Kings, Celts, and Sixers are considering a three way deal.Apparently the parties involved are in the process of salivating what is being offered on the table before deciding if they wanna buy the meal. The Skinny of the trade looks like this...........
Boston gets: Nocioni-also apparently the biggest road block on this deal because of the fact the Celts just resigned Rando and have Peirce and Allen's contracts looming.
Sixers get: K9, Brian "the giant Leperchaun" Scalabrine, and Tony Allen
Kings get: Dalambert and JR Giddens.
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