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Rafter Riff, #21

So far, Webb is in and Bibby and Peja are out. While that does not surprise me, the margin does. I did not envision a 90%+ vote for Webber. Once that took place I thought that the vote for Bibby and Peja might have been a little closer.

So that brings us to Vlade. I'll let this one roll on its own and then I'll toss in Petrie and Adelman tomorrow, follow that with Gerould and Peaches on Saturday and that will be a wrap. Thanks to everyone for voting and commenting. I really had no idea what the overall temperature would be in regards to these guys and the results have been quite enlightening and educational.

Poll below -

Poll
Retire Vlade Divac's Number?
Yes
92 votes
No
21 votes

113 votes | Poll has closed

19 comments  |  0 recs

Rafter Riff, #16

Peja's turn, poll below -

Poll
Retire Peja Stojakovic's Number?
Yes
18 votes
No
90 votes

108 votes | Poll has closed

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Rafter Riff, #10

Still waiting for a few precincts to report, but the 12/1 ratio tells me that StR declares Chris Webber's jersey suitable for the ARCO Arena rafters.

Next up, Mike Bibby (and I'm going to throw Peja on right after this).

Poll below -

Poll
Retire Mike Bibby's Number?
Yes
27 votes
No
78 votes

105 votes | Poll has closed

5 comments  |  0 recs

Rafter Riff, #4

This is the first of an eight part series designed to determine if certain individuals should be honored with a retirement ceremony at ARCO Arena. Over the next several days we will cover the following individuals:

  • Chris Webber
  • Mike Bibby
  • Peja Stojakovic
  • Vlade Divac
  • Rick Adelman
  • Geoff Petrie
  • Gary Gerould
  • Peaches Napear
I honestly have little opinion on this matter (until we get to Peaches), so I'm counting on the impending threads to help me make up my mind.

Going in numerical order, we'll start with #4, Chris Webber. Poll below -

Poll
Retire Chris Webber's Number
Yes
126 votes
No
9 votes

135 votes | Poll has closed

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The Other Side of C-Webb

Jim O'Brien shared his post-Kings experience with Chris Webber. It's not exactly pretty.

Speaking openly about Webber for the first time since he was fired at the end of 2005, O'Brien said before Indiana's game at Philadelphia that the forward was never interested in practice or truly committed to the offensive scheme.

"Webber didn't practice at all that year prior to coming to us," O'Brien said. "He didn't practice at all the previous six weeks. I think he was just at the point where he didn't necessarily feel where he was in need of practice, or could practice, or couldn't practice and play at the same time."

O'Brien said he wanted to actively use Webber, who had lost some mobility and agility after microfracture knee surgery, in the low post to open up shots for three-point threat Kyle Korver.

"He said, 'Coach, I don't do the low-post thing anymore,"' O'Brien recalled. "We just made a major trade to bring in this 6-11 guy and he said, 'No.' I said, 'Yes, you do."'


So Webber didn't practice with the Kings at all in 2004-05, and actually told O'Brien he doesn't do the low-post thing anymore? Beyond our worst suspicions about his... committment at that point. And the trade makes a bit more sense.

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Retire Vlade's Number?

Ailene Voisin's column calling for the Kings to retire Vlade Divac's #21 jersey hasn't sparked much attention yet. (Maybe few pay attention to Ailene post-Peja?) I think outside Chris Webber, Vlade is the best representative of the glory era to be immortalized. (Maybe when Geoff Petrie goes out to pasture, we can make him a bronze statue or something.)

But Vlade isn't your traditional 'number-retiring' guy. He wasn't a statistical beast or an all-pro; he didn't hit an inordinate amount of big shots. He was, of course, the catalyst -- the first big-name free agent who said, "Sacramento? Yeah, that's cool. Let's go there." He kept Jason Williams on the straight-and-narrow and kept Webber smiling. He taught Hedo Turkoglu to speak English, Peja Stojakovic to live in America, and Brad Miller to bounce pass. He made Rick Adelman's defense look good on occasion. He was our Tim Duncan (without the 20/10). Of course he should be respected with the only honor we can give him. Right?

Poll on the right, debate in the comments.

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All Time Sacramento Kings Roster

First of all a hearty thank you to the StR tribe. A total of 69 comments and 681 votes helped mold these squads. C-Webb received the most votes, Vlade the highest percentage of votes. 1st team was based on votes, 2nd and 3rd teams were based on votes and comments. So here are the 1st, 2nd and 3rd all time teams for your Sacramento Kings -

FIRST TEAM
Vlade Divac - C Received 133 votes (91%).
Chris Webber - PF Received 145 votes (82%).
Peja Stojakovic - SF Received 86 votes (86%).
Mitch Richmond - SG Received 103 votes (83%).
Mike Bibby - PG Received 66 votes (54%).

SECOND TEAM
Brad Miller - C
Wayman Tisdale - PF
Ron Artest - SF
Doug Christie - SG
Reggie Theus - PG

THIRD TEAM
LaSalle Thompson - C
Brian Grant - PF
Lionel Simmons - SF
Kevin Martin - SG
Jason Williams - PG

Thanks again for your participation. Here's hoping that we are amending this list within five years as SpeedRacer moves up the list, and we make room for Francisco Garcia and Spencer Hawes (and Justin Williams and Quincy Douby?).

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All Time Sacramento Kings Roster - Point Guards

I figured point guard would be pretty easy, as my first thought was we have not had a lot of good point guards here. But this might be the deepest list, with some of the most fun players we've had here.

For the person that has been goofin' the vote throughout this process, I'm sorry that Eddie House, Anthony Johnson, Damon Jones, Travis Mays, Rory Sparrow, Darrick Martin and Larry Drew did not play enough games here to make the list (but Danny Ainge did, contradicting an earlier statement by yours truly). Also, Randy Brown, Ronnie Price and Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf did not crack my top ten, though you could make the argument for any of them in the nine or ten slot.

Remember, your comments will also help determine the 1st, 2nd and 3rd team slots. So without further delay -

Update [2007-9-20 11:19:55 by section214]: I will be posting the final results of our all time roster polls Sunday evening, so if you have any more comments to make regarding any of the positions, get them in now or forever hold your peace.

Poll
The Best Point Guard In Sacramento Kings History Is:
Jim Les
0 votes
Mike Bibby
70 votes
Kenny Smith
2 votes
Tyus Edney
2 votes
Reggie Theus
19 votes
Bobby Hurley
1 votes
Spud Webb
5 votes
Bobby Jackson
14 votes
Jason Williams
16 votes
Danny Ainge
1 votes

130 votes | Poll has closed

13 comments  |  0 recs


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