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Sequel to Bad Movie

With Mike Bibby and Ron Artest both out, I didn't think we'd need to break out the neon glow so early. Oh well.

John Salmons has played tremendous ball through seven games. Not just 'tremendous for John Salmons' -- tremendous. He's been good, very good. His shooting numbers are better than they'd ever been, his assist rate is good for a small forward, he hasn't turned it over too much, his defense has alternated between forgettable and solid. He has been wonderful this season.

He didn't pass the ball to Kevin Martin once last night. At one point in the second quarter, Salmons had the ball on the right side at the top of the key. Martin was hovering in the right corner. Salmons drove to 15 feet on the baseline while Martin's man slid down to challenge the shot. Martin was open. Salmons took a 15-foot fadeaway with two guys on him. Of course -- for sake of killing the impact of this example, surely -- he sunk it. But it was not the proper shot. Kevin Martin with an open 3 should be the call every single night.

Folks talk about how tired Martin has to be, how he needs for a night not to be the focus of the offense. Are you kidding me? You think he's going to stop running around helter skelter if he gets less than 15 shot attempts? The only way to keep Martin for running full tilt during a game is to keep him on a bench; he was cutting and rolling off screens a ton last night. He remains a one-man fast break, with his friends occasionally joining him in a downcourt trot. He works just as hard or harder on nights when he gets 12 FGAs as when he gets 21. And the benefits of Martin with the ball in his hands should be obvious -- he's an insanely efficient scorer, he doesn't turn the ball over frequently, he racks up the foul calls, he rarely misses so wildly a long rebound kicks off transition offense for the opponent. He is clearly the best option for this team. And Salmons didn't pass it to him once in the context of the offense. (He might have passed it to him once or twice; I admit I don't watch 24-point losses as closely as 7-point wins.)

Remember how I laughed when Beno Udrih was heralded as a pure point guard? Well, I watched the Minnesota game right before the Utah game started last night. It was actually wonderful, getting to see Grant Napear and Jerry Reynolds slobber all over Beno's point guard skills... and then watch Beno's true self, taking 12 FGAs in 29 minutes while registering 2 assists and 5 turnovers. Seriously 4-12 FG, 1-4 3P... that sounds like another Sacramento Kings point guard we know! Welcome back, Mike Bibby. Improbably, you have returned to Earth as a small Slovenian man.

This team wouldn't beat Utah if Andrei Kirilenko were wearing a straightjacket and Carlos Boozer played in the traditional garb of an Eskimo. But when you AGAIN handcuff your prize weapon while letting guys like Beno Udrih jack up threes... you don't give yourself a chance. Boo Kings.

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This was the first game I've been to in years, and I have a few things to point out.

Kevin Martin is very good, but nobody will give him the ball. It's like they don't even know he's on the team. The best player should be getting more touches. When Theus took Martin out to rest him in the fourth, it killed their chances of a comeback.

Mikki Moore is not a good basketball player. He had a couple decent offensive boards with putbacks, but other than that, he seemed like an uncoordinated oaf. Every time someone hit him with a good pass, his body froze up and the ball bounced away. At least he's not getting millions. Oh, wait. He is.

Spencer Hawes is not a true center. He was content to stand on the perimeter the whole time and wait for the ball. Luckily, he's got a really nice touch from outside (except when he rushes the shot, like the 3-point attempt he airballed).

Quincy Douby needs to shoot the ball. When he tries to create shots for himself, he seems very natural and athletic.

Francisco Garcia is a very talented player. I think he should start with Artest, Bibby, Martin and whoever is playing center.

John Salmons is very strong, and has a very good offensive repertoire. I think he could be a fantastic sixth man if the Kings had good starters. He needs to pass the ball more, though. Too often he stood at the top of the key, motionless, for 5-6 seconds, waiting for an opportunity to take it to the hoop himself. Every time I got mad at him for being a ball hog, he scored.

Who the hell is Beno Udrih and why is he shooting the ball? He seemed to be a good ballhandler with decent penetration skills, but why is he jacking up threes and shooting fadeaways when Kevin Martin and Francisco Garcia are making just about anything they shoot? Aren't point guards supposed to distribute the ball? Perhaps it's just the unfamiliarity with the system, but pass the freaking ball already.

Speaking of the system, is there one? It seems like Reggie's strategy is to space the floor, have everyone stand around, and after one pass take it to the hoop. I like that they tried to get the ball down close to the basket, but unfortunately they have no size and can't take advantage of good passes. On the whole, the team didn't pass the ball really at all, especially as the game wore on. I think Udrih wanted to be the hero, but Reggie needs to build the offense around Kevin Martin, who is an incredible offensive talent.

It was a rough game to watch. The Jazz were much better than the Kings offensively and defensively. They are much more athletic and strong than Sacramento, and Sloan's system really wore the Kings down. There were far too many open looks from within 10 feet of the basket.

I hope that Artest, Bibby and Miller bring more to the table, because this team is not good as is. If Martin had been able to shoot the ball 5-10 times more, the Kings may have had a chance to make it close at the end. But the Kings stubbornly refuse to make use of the tremendous offense of Kevin Martin. Boo, indeed.

by JediLeroy on Nov 13, 2007 8:51 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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I think you guys have covered everything that could really be said...

As I see it we should have an 8 man rotation.

Garcia, Martin, Salmons, Artest, Miller starting
Douby, Reef, Watkins in the rotation.

If Oriene and and Udrih could eventually work there way into the rotation if they would like to learn how to distribute the ball, and not throw up terrible shots...

And since it hasn't been said enough.  I miss you Justin Williams.

by dkons21 on Nov 13, 2007 9:22 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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I think Hawes is good enough to be part of that rotation. Even if he just wants to be a shooter, having a Vlade type center could be good for this team if we have enough people slashing to the basket.

by JediLeroy on Nov 13, 2007 10:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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Great post TZ, however, I have a slightly different take on the situation than you do. I do not believe Salmons (or Bibby for that matter) is any more at fault for Kevin's lack of touches than KEVIN, the Speedracer, is himself! I acknowledge that he is far and away our most efficient player, there is truth in the numbers, but I strongly feel that the reason for his lack of touches mainly lies with the man himself. I've stated on here before that although he is a remarkable player, what seperates him from the (Kobe's, Lebron's, Gilber's, McGrady's, Baron's, AI's, Melo's, The Boston big three's ect) is that fact that he simply does not have the killer instinct nor the internal WANT to take over a game. His style of player, is much more comfortable playing "off" another player and not having to single handidly take the reins as your stereotypical "go-to guy".

Go back and take a look at the 4th quarter of the Cavs-Kings game a few night back. (as a matter of fact go back to the game thread and read my comment about this lack of WANT late in the game from Martin). During the final streatch of the game (id say the final 4 minutes), EVERY SINGLe DAMN time down the court Martin would stand on the left baseline tree point line and just STAND there looking like a zombie. Meanwhile, the rest of the guys were dribbling around like a bunch of chickens with they're heads cut off looking for a leader (this is where Mike came in handy! whether or not you want to believe it, these situations are the ones he lived for) I kept waiting for Kevin to take part in the offence, but to my displeasure he just gravitated towards that same spot, farthest away from the action as possible and just STOOD there. Thats not Salmons fault nor anyone else on the teams' fault but Kevin's himself, Im sure Theus didnt call the "Hey Kevin- dont do shit and stand in the corner play" 5-6 times in a row.

Now I dont want this posts to be recieved the wrong way because Kevin's game is truly one of my favorite in the league. However, with his young age and amazing set of skills you can't just automatically assume that Kevin WANTS to be the guy just yet. Hopefully that comes soon but only time will tell!

by Hoops916 on Nov 13, 2007 9:34 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Partially agree
Perhaps he doesn't know what he needs to do to take over a game. However, I see him running around, trying to get open, yet nobody passes him the ball when he is open. It seems to me like he wants the ball a lot more than his teammates are willing to acknowledge.

by JediLeroy on Nov 13, 2007 10:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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agreed.  Before the last 4 minutes of the game it looked as if he was going to take the game over and spend the last six minutes of regulation at the foul line. Then...nothing. Not until the no-foul call play at the end of the game did I think Kevin really turned it up. And even then it seemed that it was probably inspired by a specific play the team was running.

by NYCFan on Nov 13, 2007 10:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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I agree with your analysis.  Kevin has the Peja problem - he doesn't DEMAND the ball nor does he possess a commanding presence. However, I think he has steadily improved in these areas each year and hopefully gets to the point where he wants to be the "go to" guy. Kevin's game is fine for the first 40 minutes of games, but when it comes down to crunch time when baskets are tough and the game very mentally and physically demanding, he's no Kobe or Lebron - but then again, that's why people know them by their first name.  

With all that said, the guy is the league's 2nd leading scorer and has improved every facet of his game.  He plays hard and is amazingly efficient. Kevin isn't the problem.  Our lack of talent is.

by Kusian on Nov 13, 2007 10:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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Agreed, though he did try to take the Kobe/LeBron shot against the Cavs. He just didn't get the Kobe/LeBron call.
Martin probably needs to be a bit more demanding but the team also needs to make a better effort to get him touches.  AI had 20 shots last night for Denver and it didn't look forced. Maybe Kevin is waiting for Theus to say something and Theus is waiting for Kevin to say something. I don't know. What I do know is Kevin Martin is the best thing about watching the Kings right now, and I want to see him with the ball more often.
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by section214 on Nov 13, 2007 11:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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Honesty alert: I shut the game off when Kevin went out for good. No Hawes, no Martin, no Justin Williams, no remote chance of a win... no Ziller.

by Ziller on Nov 13, 2007 12:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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Kevin does lack that killer instinct, but I believe late in the 4th of the cavs game he was standing around because:

A) no one wanted to give up the ball  

B) Lebron was often guarding him

and most importantly
C) He was dead tired.  He's played more than anyone in the league and that night(correct me if I'm wrong but I think he played the whole 2nd half and kept them in the game.  His offense requires a lot of movement to get open especially when they put their best defender on him.  Not to mention putting in the effort on the defensive side.

trade em all

by kangsfan on Nov 13, 2007 10:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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