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GAME 28 vs Philadelphia, Preview & Game Thread

PHILADELPHIA 76ERS (12-16)  103.7 ORtg (#23), 104.6 DRtg (# 7),  89.6 (#20)
SACRAMENTO KINGS (11-16)    105.5 ORtg (#18), 109.1 DRtg (#23),  91.9 (#11)
BALLHYPE | NBA.com PREVIEW

Considering the Kings recently beat the Sixers in Philadelphia, and considering the Kings are tons better at home than on the road, you'd think this were a sure win.

But it's not that simple. Ron Artest kept Andre Iguodala completely out of the game two weeks ago; he can do it again, but after a string of tough defensive challenges (Carmelo Anthony, Paul Pierce), Ron's in a much less fresh position. His offensive load -- not easily apparent looking at shot attempts, but certainly present with Kevin Martin out and John Salmons getting bottled up a bit lately -- wears as well. If Iguodala's in this game, it's a tighter affair. Andre Miller has shown he can score all over Beno Udrih; Louis Williams has shown the Sacramento second unit's length and size doesn't deter his shot nor playmaking abilities.

Samuel Dalembert's worst game of Philly's recent hot stretch was against Mikki Moore; M.M. just abused Dalembert on cuts and delayed arrivals into the lane off guard penetration. It's a repeatable situation, but counting on 20 from Mikki regularly is fool's gold. Really, you need to hope Brad Miller is able to address the offense much the same way he did in Philadelphia -- by attacking with the shot, with the pass, and with the occasional drive. Reggie Evans isn't a good defender on the whole and should be exploited.

Sacramento should have the edge, but you never know with these things. On the whole, Philadelphia's a better performing team right now. They have some nice road wins. But the Kings have shown a different level of performance at home, even in the losses. Should be a fun game.

Tip's at 7. Go Kings.

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kings fans need to stop crying
WOW, you guys need to stop crying about the use of the word "Queens"
BIG DEAL, its not even a gay joke, its a making fun of the king's "toughness" i.e. women are not as tough as men. Now, I'm not saying that making fun of women is any better than men, but any insult is going to make fun someone. And it is an age old stereotype that women are softer and more sensitive than men. Stop trying to blow it out of proportion.
It just sounds like some certain QUEENS fans are bitter that lost and got manhandled by both the celtics AND the media after they took numerous cheap shots. Sure the celtics were talking trash, but were they hitting people on the head and trying to scratch out the other players eyes?
BOO HOO want a tissue?

by cooleststan on Dec 28, 2007 3:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Holy cow
This is the best the Bostoners could muster?  Dude can't even find the right thread to respond in.

by otis29 on Dec 28, 2007 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's hard to be insulted by stupidity
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Dec 29, 2007 2:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Vote Quimby
Nice to hear from beantown fans again. They've been quiet since Bird flew south.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Dec 28, 2007 4:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well
I'd ban you if that comment wasn't so unintentionally hilarious.

by Ziller on Dec 28, 2007 6:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't be a complete dictator
It's why I kinda like you TZ.
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Dec 29, 2007 2:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Tonight's Game
I think this is a pretty big game for the team's psyche. After the brutal loss to Denver and the hammering by the Celts, they need to regain some of that good mojo they were feeling from the roadie - and to regain some type of control of the home floor.

by otis29 on Dec 28, 2007 4:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Beach Party
I really don't understand the Kings marketing team? Who the hell has a beach party game in the middle of December during the winter holidays? Sheesh. Enough ranting for now:

I'm calling for guaranteed win night tonight. Put it in the books, the Kings have this one down.

Let's just focus on Phoenix.

The Sacramento Kings: Where Amazing Happens!

by kingme18 on Dec 28, 2007 6:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Beach Party?
Does that mean Kayte in bikini wear? Count me in!!!

Or does it mean Rant and Jerry in Speedo's? Count me out.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Dec 28, 2007 6:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

No Artest tonight
Has a bone spur in his elbow or something. Garcia gets the start.

by Kfan in Korea on Dec 28, 2007 7:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Trade, maybe?
Whatever it takes to make this team worse, excluding the loss of Kevin Martin.
The wise man tells you Where you have fallen And where you yet may fall - Invaluable secrets! The world may hate him. But good men love him.

by Psychrates on Dec 28, 2007 8:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Er...
Anybody remember the 3-2 road trip? Ugly, ugly homestand.
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by section214 on Dec 28, 2007 9:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Justin Williams
Um, why is he not playing?

Seriously. I don't get it.

OK, I am going to say something maybe a bit of a no-no, but I am really starting to believe that the reason he is not playing is because of the Kings organization. Maybe up to the Maloofs. 3-Wil had his media "black-eye" with his court issues at the beginning of the season and the organization (Maloofs and minority owners? Petrie?) have told Reggie to not play him any minutes.

I find it hard to believe but c'mon. It makes NO sense at ALL that he is not at least getting some of Spencers and K-9's minutes. He seems to be being penalized or something. What other excuse is there? Any ideas?

He can shoot, and he looks great in a suit. Hey, everybody - It's REGGIE TIME!

by dalt99 on Dec 28, 2007 9:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Free 3-Wil!
I too am very frustrated that 3-Wil is getting no burn, but I don't think the Maloof's enter into the equation at all. More on that in a minute.

I do think that his legal problem does enter into it in small part due to the fact that it cost him almost the entire camp and preseason, and he could probably afford to have missed that time less than anyone else.

That having been said, I can't believe that you can't find this kid a few minutes a night, especially given the fact that as a team we get beaten like a drum on the boards every night, and we have seen what guys like Theo Ratliff and Sean Williams have done to us as shot blockers in short runs. Wouldn't it be nice if Justin did that for us every once in a while? Especially when you can find minutes for K9(woof!)?!?!?

Final thought...Why are the Maloof's always to blame when someone's hot dog is cold? If they were truly behind 3-Wil's benching he would be flat gone right now and Darryl Watkins would still be a King. All I'm saying is that while blaming it on the Maloof's might be more fun, blaming it on 3-Wil's missed time and/or offensive (in)ability is probably more accurate.

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by section214 on Dec 29, 2007 8:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
The Maloofs are convenient whipping boys for many things. But let's not forget that Justin went undrafted, and he couldn't get playing time most of last season either. My guess is he's not a very good practice player, and continues to have trouble grasping the offense.

Still, I'd love to see him get some limited minutes as well - his lack of court time is most likely strictly basketball related.

by otis29 on Dec 29, 2007 10:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

By the way
These are the kinds of questions I'd like to have details on from our local media. Has Theus or the assistants been asked this question?

by otis29 on Dec 29, 2007 10:28 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good points
Exactly. Why is the media silent when talking to Theus and the other coaches regarding Justin Williams. Of course, we never hear any talk about Thomas either but why would he be talked about if he is putting up ZERO stats for the past 2 months.

As far as thinking that the Maloofs would get rid of Justin instead of Darryl. Do you think that more people or less people would be up in arms if Watkins had stayed instead of 3-Wil. If the Maloofs (and possibly the co-owners, remember there are many other owners of the Kings that may have said something stern to the Maloofs about Justin) really do have an issue with 3-Wil and his court issues, getting rid of him would have been MORE of an indication of this and brought on more scrutiny on them then if they just tell Reggie to not let him get minutes. I am NOT saying that I believe that the Maloofs are responsible for 3-Wil's lack of playing time. I am saying that it may be a possibility that we have to consider especially since there is no real logical reason as to why he is getting absolutely NO time on the floor.

As for the argument that maybe Justin is not grasping the offense and his lack of a training camp, what about Spencer? He had no camp yet he plays every night. K-9(woof!) plays every night yet does NOTHING and even if the does know the plays, doesn't seem to be helping at ALL. Seriously, you can't get 3-Wil a few minutes on the court? What will happen? Will he be worse than Thomas? Anybody at all say yes to that??

He can shoot, and he looks great in a suit. Hey, everybody - It's REGGIE TIME!

by dalt99 on Dec 29, 2007 12:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm critical of the Maloof's over alot of things
but I don't think benching 3will is one of them. I think it has to do with Reggie not fully having a complete grasp on this team while doing everything in his power to try and win games NOW. That can be a bad combination for a young player trying to break a rotation.
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Dec 29, 2007 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair Enough
I don't disagree. Then my main point stands. Reggie says he will play the players who produce and play hard, scrap, bust their butt and defend, yet K9 (woof!) is on the court every night while Justin sits. Reggie wants to win now? Is Kenny helping to produce wins? Is Spencer being used correctly to produce wins consistently? I guess it all doesn't matter anyway. This Kings team is a ship at sea without sails until we either trade Bibby and/or Artest and get a star in here to compliment Speedracer. 30-40 wins this year while keeping Bibby and Artest would probably be a disaster whether 3-Wil plays zero minutes or 20 a game.
He can shoot, and he looks great in a suit. Hey, everybody - It's REGGIE TIME!

by dalt99 on Dec 29, 2007 1:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It depends which eyeglasses you put on
If you put on the narrow & short view and say it's only about justin than your point stands. If it's about the future of the team and all that it's hard for anyone to say exactly what the future holds.
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Dec 29, 2007 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What?
Did you read my post sir?
He can shoot, and he looks great in a suit. Hey, everybody - It's REGGIE TIME!

by dalt99 on Dec 29, 2007 1:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Probably not as closely as I should have
Strike my comment from the record.
I am the stone that the builder refused I am the visual, the inspiration That made Lady Sing the Blues..I'm the spark that makes your idea bright...

by pookeyguru on Dec 29, 2007 2:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also...
Kenny plays around 9 minutes tonight and goes 0-1.

That's it. No rebounds, points, whatever. Nothing. Nada. He does this game in and game out yet not even a single second for Justin? We all know that Reggie says he will give minutes to the guys that hustle and scrap and play defense. I'm really getting sick and tired of talking about this. Something is up somewhere with 3-Wil and the Kings organization.

He can shoot, and he looks great in a suit. Hey, everybody - It's REGGIE TIME!

by dalt99 on Dec 28, 2007 10:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you man.
I am so sick of watching Kenny Thomas play even a single minute. 9 minutes and not a single stat. Theus has coached the Kings to a loss for the second straight game. The Kings got the Celtics score down to five and then Theus changed up the line-up and the game instantly got out of hand. Same thing tonight, 4 point game with 10 minutes left in the fourth Theus brought in both Douby and Thomas and that was it.

Who subs out their starters with 10 minutes left in the fourth? Udrih and Moore should have already been on the bench and almost ready to come in. Theus has to play for the win, if that means Salmons, Udrih and Miller play 48 until Artest, Bibby and Martin are back then that's the way it has to be. What a fucking debacle of a home stand.

We are slipping into the NBA abyss.

by jjham15 on Dec 28, 2007 10:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

9-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0
Nine minutes, no stats.  Truehoop had a post about this a while back, called it a googol, or something.  Basically minutes, but the rest of the stat-line is all zeroes.  Perhaps this should be called a canine now.

by misterbrister on Dec 29, 2007 8:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Intersesting
Just like a dog howling: OW-0000000000.
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by section214 on Dec 29, 2007 8:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think this one looks more like
goooooooo as in 900000000 away you worthless cap sucking pos.

by Kfan in Korea on Dec 29, 2007 3:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Way Beno Was Shooting ...
 ... he probably should have played 48 minutes or at least stayed in until he started to suck a little. It's like taking out a guy who has a no-hitter going in the fifth inning.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Dec 29, 2007 12:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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