Keep Artest?
I've been surprised at some of the sentiment -- not the 'blow it up' sentiment, which has hung in the Sactown air for about four years now. Of course that sentiment is present when the team's best offensive weapon goes down for possibly two months while the team's three games under .500. The sentiment which has surprised me by sheer presence: The Kings should re-sign Ron Artest this summer.
I'd never considered the possibility after last season. But hey, his nose has been clean since last spring. And it's not like he isn't one of the top players in the league -- the #7 small forward in the league and a better defender than all above him in the PER rankings.
It's certainly a tricky question, made trickier by how well he's played in the Beno Udrih offense. (The Udrih/Martin/Artest/Moore/Miller unit is basically break-even according to basketballvalue.com. Line-ups without Artest and/or Udrih are not good, expect for the surprising Douby/Martin/Salmons/Moore/Miller line, which has performed very well in 28 minutes of time, most of which came against the Spurs and Sonics. I digress.)
The argument you have to decide on, in the end: Do you trust this season? Or do you trust the last two [demanding a trade from the Pacers, the dog abuse thing, the spousal abuse thing, the 'retirement' thing]? We'll know more as we get closer to June; I, however, can't imagine taking that sort of risk on another five years of uncertainty. He makes you a better team, yes. But he's already destroyed one franchise. I don't want the Kings to be next.
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Re: Keep Artest?
If by the end of the year Ron has (1) stayed out of trouble and (2) continued to play as he is right now you have to at least consider it.
But here's the rub. If he does stay clean and plays out of his mind his trade value is going to be very high. Given that we're a team that is deep at the swing position could you sign and trade him (I'm figuring that he is going to opt out) to a team that could solve our low post and/or up front athleticism issues? Get some young talent and draft picks?
Me thinkst perhaps this is why Mr. Petrie did not give Ron-Ron away over the summer?
by section214 on Dec 6, 2007 7:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by Mityt on Dec 6, 2007 8:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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i hope for Ron's sake, as much as I enjoy watching him play basketball, that he signs a contract with a team located closer to his family. Actually, given that his wife likes to throw frying pans, maybe he is better off playing at a distance.
by NYCFan on Dec 6, 2007 8:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by Kusian on Dec 6, 2007 9:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by NYCFan on Dec 6, 2007 10:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Signing him to a 4 or 5 year deal is pretty scary though, and I'd imagine it would scare off a lot of trade partners as well.
by otis29 on Dec 6, 2007 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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Yes, the 4 to 5 year contract is going to make it more difficult. Unfortunately, he probably needs to build up more than one year of good-will.
by Kusian on Dec 6, 2007 2:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Carl on Dec 6, 2007 9:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by chupacabra on Dec 6, 2007 10:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by kingsfaninjapan on Dec 6, 2007 10:53 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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I wonder if Mikki would be a better fit for Charlotte (especially as Dec 15 creeps closer and Sam Vincent mouths off again about needing another big) than even Anderson Varejao as Mikki does have offensive skills that Varejao doesn't. Oh well, I've beat this drum before.
by pookeyguru on Dec 6, 2007 11:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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Although he is a friggin beast, and it'll hurt watching him tear apart our team in the future -- Re-sign him and you're lighting a fuse.
by somebunchgrass on Dec 6, 2007 11:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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If your goal is try and make the playoffs as soon as possible, then try and keep Artest, hell keep Bibby too then keep 'em all. Sign more mid-level guys. Maybe make the post season as a 7 or 8 seed next year. My problem with this approach is we end up drafting in the mid teens for the next 3-4 years.
The other approach is identify who on your team is/hopefully will be a key piece in 3-4 years when you plan to make a serious title run, then dump everyone else for young talent(key pieces or trade value), draft picks and/or cap space.
I'd much rather be very bad for a couple of years and make a serious run than linger on in mediocrity.
by Kfan in Korea on Dec 6, 2007 11:40 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Playoffs, or Championship?
If the goal is to GET to the playoffs annually, for whatever reason (validating ticket prices, getting support for a new arena, etc.) then you pretty much have to stay the course.
But if the ultimate goal is to win a Championship, then some hard decisions have to be made. More likely than not, the franchise will have to take a step BACKWARD before taking two steps FORWARD.
If New York offers Lee, the Kings would HAVE to trade Artest, right? If you don't agree with that, then you probably fall into the "just make it to the playoffs" category, and won't be swayed by less than a SUPERSTAR in return. I don't know what to say, I can't help you.
I'm ALL for blowing up this team, and have been for 2 years now, but a D.Lee-type trade aside, Artest's value will probably be maximized in a S&T this off-season.
I also don't see the point in trading Bibby for $0.50 on the dollar, unless you're getting that value elsewhere (i.e. dumping hydra-salary in the process), because he may also have more value next year when he's an ending contract AS WELL AS a playoff-proven scorer.
The craziest part of this post, for me personally, is that I'm been looking at trade scenarios for the better part of two years, and yet when I think about it I'd rather do pretty much what GP is doing, even though I've been going crazy waiting for something to happen.
Here's hoping that the right trade comes up sooner rather than later.
by smgmatt on Dec 6, 2007 12:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Ball in Cup on Dec 6, 2007 11:50 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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this team is a consistent double double big + maturity away from doing damage as it stands, so we're not in that much trouble, right?
by CrownUs93 on Dec 6, 2007 7:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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by pookeyguru on Dec 6, 2007 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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