Kirilenko, Anyone?
Whilst we're discussing our power forward situation (Shareef has tied up Justin Williams in the poll, somewhat suprisingly), we might as well mention Andrei Kirilenko's trade request.
The problem for AK-47 (and the Jazz) is that he's rather untradeable -- as in, there's no real salary match any team would be willing to give up for him. As for as the Kings go, Kirilenko's contract goes one year past those of Brad Miller, Kenny Thomas and Shareef Abdur-Rahim. AK'd certainly be a talent upgrade -- but I can't imagine Utah not getting a starting-level small forward in return. Unless you think Jerry Sloan's in the market for Ron Artest or John Salmons, a straight-up trade wouldn't make sense.
Would acquiring Kirilenko even make sense for the Kings? He's an all-World talent when he's right (see: Eurobasket this summer). But he's a damn expensive talent, and if you aren't contending you're really stressing your cap number with a dude that rich. In 2010/2011, you'd have Kirilenko and Kevin Martin making about $27 million between them. I think they'd be an awesome fit together... but I'm not sure that combo and a set of roleplayers (or maybe one other star-level player) take you to the promised land.
Salmons and KT (woof!) for AK works under the cap, but it won't work for Utah. I don't think you can part with Francisco Garcia while Artest's status is uncertain. I'm not sure Quincy Douby is enough of a sweetener for Utah. Kevin O'Connor would love the cap relief (Thomas comes off at least a year earlier than AK; Salmons makes only $5.8 million in 2011). But you don't trade an expensive All-Star for nothing (unless he's visiting strip clubs during bereavement leave, I guess). Brad Miller would be wasted in Utah; ditto Shareef or any other serviceable power forward. (That's the problem for AK, actually.) Martin's untouchable, Utah doesn't need Bibby and would've pursued Mikki Moore on its own if it wanted him. I see no combination of Kings which gets a phone call started. (And again, I'm not sure how necessary AK is in Sacramento.)
Do three-way possibilities exist? AK and Bibby are salary matches, and Bibby is wanted by at least Cleveland. What would Utah get in the exchange? A re-signed Sasha Pavlovic and what else? Could the Warriors get involved with their trade exception and/or Mickael Pietrus (who seems like a Sloan guy)? (Golden State doesn't want to take salary back, though.) It will be damn near impossible to get anything to work. AK seems like a Geoff Petrie project... but the logistics just don't square. Unless Utah wants Artest. Which I doubt.
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by HardRockTroy on Sep 19, 2007 9:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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It also doesn't solve the endless gut of flawed power forwards here. Which is why I could also see Kirilenko to Sac, Artest/Thomas or Reef to LAC, Maggette and filler. Another problem: LAC doesn't have a lot of filler Utah'd be willing to take on.
by Ziller on Sep 19, 2007 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Ziller on Sep 19, 2007 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Bibby to LA, AK to Sac, Maggette and Mobley to Utah.
Saves Utah $19.4 million in payroll through 2011 (not including possible luxury tax), assuming Mags picks up his $8.4 million options next year. If Mags doesn't (it's iffy, I'd say), that's $27.8 million in savings for Utah. Is that incentive enough?
And is Kirilenko good enough for Petrie to reconfigure the rebuild?
And do the Clips even feel like trying this year, given Brand/Livingston's injuries?
Here's the lineups for each team given this deal:
Utah
LAC
Deron Williams/Jason Hart/Ronnie Price
Cuttino Mobley/Gordan Giricek(?)Morris Almond/CJ Miles(?)
Corey Maggette/Matt Harpring/Ronnie Brewer
Carlos Boozer/Paul Millsap
Mehmet Okur/Jarron Collins/Kyrylo Fesenko
Mike Bibby/Brevin Knight/Sam Cassell
Ruben Patterson/Quinton Ross
Tim Thomas/Al Thornton
Elton Brand (injured)/Paul Davis/Josh Powell
Chris Kaman/Aaron Williams
/(God, this roster's a mess)
Sacramento
John Salmons/Orien Greene or Mustafa Shakur
Kevin Martin/Quincy Douby
Ron Artest/Francisco Garcia
Andrei Kirilenko/Shareef Abdur-Rahim/Kenny Thomas
Brad Miller/Mikki Moore/Justin Williams/Spencer Hawes
God, that frontcourt's a mess
Again, I like the cleanliness of moving Bibby. But LA needs frontcourt help and the Kings need help cleaning out the frontcourt. I'd love to pair AK and Ron-Ron with Kevin and Brad. But moving Ron and a PF in such a deal makes more sense.
by Ziller on Sep 19, 2007 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by MILKSHAKE on Sep 19, 2007 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by MILKSHAKE on Sep 19, 2007 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by dalt99 on Sep 19, 2007 10:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by dalt99 on Sep 19, 2007 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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As far as off-the-court stuff: Utah was said to have signed Hart/Price instead of Dee Brown because Brown goes out a lot and was a bad influence on Deron. Pretty high standards there.
by Ziller on Sep 19, 2007 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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I've watched Kirilenko at Eurobasket and he was a load.
by cwebb on Sep 19, 2007 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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I don't see us being able put together a package that would satisfy the Jazz.
by kingme18 on Sep 19, 2007 11:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by CrownUs93 on Sep 19, 2007 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Garcia
Martin(Is it just me or is speed racer a stupid nickname? Sorry, TZ.)
Kirilenko
SAR
Hawes
Let the kids play!
Once this team manages to lose 50+ games, look forward to the OJ Mayo sweepstakes and make it happen anyway if the lottery doesn't go our way.
by Psychrates on Sep 19, 2007 1:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by pookeyguru on Sep 19, 2007 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Psychrates on Sep 19, 2007 3:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Ziller on Sep 19, 2007 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Plainly, it shouldn't have ever BEEN a position battle. Over both careers SAR is the better player by far statistically and fundamentally. Unfortunately his Kings tenure is not indicative of such.
by Psychrates on Sep 20, 2007 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Psychrates on Sep 20, 2007 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Ziller on Sep 20, 2007 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by MILKSHAKE on Sep 19, 2007 7:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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My second response is that if Utah wanted to trade their problem for our problem(s), why not? If a trade involved K9 (woof!) and say Salmons then you are only adding a couple of million per year plus the fourth year, by which time he's either worth the money or he's an expiring contract.
My third response is that nothing is going to happen, so why burn any more neurons?
by section214 on Sep 19, 2007 8:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by NYCFan on Sep 20, 2007 5:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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by moproblemz on Sep 20, 2007 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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