And Woe is Us, Together

by Ziller on Feb 7, 2008 7:33 AM PST in Recaps Comment 18 comments

Be but for the grace of a Spencer Hawes drop-step, that would have been a complete waste of time. To the Hope Alert System!

Home wins over Detroit, Dallas, San Antonio. Double-digit home losses to Philadelphia, the Clippers, Seattle. Boo.

F.P. Santangelo this morning blamed it on the fans. When the other two Rise Guys pushed back, he called it a 'chicken and egg thing' -- as if the crowd sucked because the Kings sucked, and the Kings sucked because the crowd sucked. As if it's some confounding paradox.

The logical extension: I don't know who had good tickets last night, but if that person could stop telling Ron Artest to take step-back 20-footers, that'd be fantastic. If the fans on the sidelines could please stop asking Mike Bibby to shoot every single time he touches the ball, we'd appreciate it. If you fans would stop distracting all these 6'7 players when they're trying to get rebounds over 6'10 opponents, you know that'd help a lot.

This team sucks because this team sucks. It does not always suck; in fact, sometimes this team is good. Really good. But often enough, it sucks. You have to suck to lose by Seattle at home by 13 points; there is little other explanation. Brad Miller is vital, and Beno Udrih's gotten better important to that second unit, yes and yes. That allows for a close game... not the Kenny Thomas white flag.

Of course, this team will come out and stick it to Utah with fire and fury, and we'll all trot our hopes and dreams back out to the yard, and our arrow will get pushed up a bit, and merriment will be had by all. And eventually, the see-saw will pick up speed again, and we'll have a ton of fun, and we'll all be yellin' and scream' and hoping. And then the bell will ring, and recess will be over, and we'll wonder why we feel like that whole recess was just a big ol' waste of time.

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Fire Sale

Trade Bibby for any expirings NOW!!!

Trade Artest for a bologna sandwich NOW!!!

balls to the walls

by kangsfan on Feb 7, 2008 7:53 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

BLT! BLT!

Equal value!

Mikki Moore in the skills challenge! - LPA

by iashwash on Feb 7, 2008 10:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

FP.....

is a tool

There is nothing worse than someone who probably gets free tickets, then tells the paying public how to behave.

Some teams lay an egg sometimes it happens, thats life in sports, but don't tell me what I should be doing at an event where I have paid my hard earned money.

by Murf on Feb 7, 2008 7:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

The Mike Bibby experiment....

is over.

How many times the last couple of seasons have you heard Grant, Jerry, et al say the following: "When Mike's shot comes back, this team...."

Maybe, knuckleheads, his shot ain't coming back!

Beno is already a better PG than Bibby and will only get better with playing time. Yet, Theus has no choice but to play the chucker. Too bad.

Good point, TZ: The only good thing about last night was watching how good Spencer is going to be in the post. The guy has got the moves and can use both hands. And he's got a McHale attitude: He believes he can score every time he touches the ball. Things to look forward to in a couple years.

by Kusian on Feb 7, 2008 10:41 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

He shot really well

the 1st couple of games back. I say rest him and bring him out once a week, see if that works. ;p

by Kfan in Korea on Feb 7, 2008 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

For those of you who

don't think Miller is important to this team, I beg you to re-watch last night's game. Spacing, ball-movement, decision-making, Kevin Martin - they all suffer without Brad.

BTW, how is that a bunch of professionals forget the most fundamental points to attacking a zone?

by Kusian on Feb 7, 2008 10:45 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Maybe -

FP has a source that can help us enhance the performance of the fans.

SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!

by section214 on Feb 7, 2008 10:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Oh yes

Bonus points, sir.

by Ziller on Feb 7, 2008 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

FP

I really enjoy FP. But that's just a stupid comment. (I didn't hear the show this morning, but TZ is not one to attribute something to somebody unless it is true.) There was NOTHING about which to cheer last night. The 2nd half was some of the worst NBA ball a person will watch: no patience, poor shooting, poor shot selection, no transition D, no defensive anticipation, etc, etc, etc. It was like watching a playground game.

I don't know who wrote the post prior to the game about Bibby and Artest showing us their worst sides, but it ended up being a very prescient bit of forecasting.

by Kusian on Feb 7, 2008 11:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Spiking the purple jello shots?

by Rhondda Nunes on Feb 7, 2008 8:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

the fans?

The problem with the kings is the same problem they've had all season. They play to the level of their opponents. They let their opponent dictate the pace of the game and even when they're winning, you never really feel like they're in control of the game. But that comes with the youth of this team. Noone's developed into "that guy" who will throw them team on their back and say follow my lead. Bibby and Artest are pretty much lame ducks which undermines their leader status, and Speedracer's still a year or two away from being that guy.

That being said, this season's going pretty much how I expected it to be. We take our lumps in exchange for getting young guys who are brimming with promise some solid experience. We're young and inconsistant. But I'd rather have this team discover during what's basically a throwaway season for us than in the middle of a playoff push.

That and you can't say this hasn't been a damn entertaining season compared to the last couple years

Muff rules. http://vegaskings.blogspot.com

by Muff209 on Feb 7, 2008 11:14 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Artest to Phoenix?

Tucked away in this recap of the Suns-Hornets game last night was this little nugget:

"The Suns will be looking to add another player in the next few weeks, general manager Steve Kerr said."

Could that player be Ron Artest?

Think about it. They just traded Marion for Shaq, and in doing so elevated the minutes of Boris Diaw and Grant Hill, so they may be looking for some depth and a little more physicality.

The problem is they really don't have many pieces that aren't a part of their core, so it might have to be a three-way to work.

by coolcatreportdotcom on Feb 7, 2008 12:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Note

I think in generally terms the reference meant they'd want to add a player as have more players than they currently have. I think they're down to 13, which is the league minimum. Most teams roll with 14 or 15.

They desperately need another point guard for emergency duty. Barbosa's fine, Diaw's going to be relied on much more in the frontcourt, Bell's not the type of two-guard to get the team into its offense. Mike Bibby's way out of their price range, though. They need a Beno.

by Ziller on Feb 7, 2008 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

They need a Beno

But they can't have ours.

Ron Artest: A legend in his own mind.

by LeaguePassAddict on Feb 7, 2008 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yay! the threat level is low

Osama loves us he really loves us! Send Artest and Bibby to Israel. If they can't pull this off, can middle east peace be far away?

Regarding "a big ol' waste of time". Only if we don't move Artest and Bibby. This season has been loads of fun up until the time where we stopped seeing Douby, started seeing 6th man Salmons again and started seeing Cisco getting 6 mins of playing time.

by Kfan in Korea on Feb 7, 2008 1:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Middle East

As long as there are frying pans in Israel, Artest will never bring peace to the middle east.

balls to the walls

by kangsfan on Feb 7, 2008 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

"Artest & the Arabians".....

Coming this summer on T.V. exclusively in the Gaza Strip.

& if there were fans heckling the players last night for taking too many ill-advised jump shots they should be thanked.Publicly. Why should coach Theus have to go hoarse all by himself?

The only vet playing with passion seemed to be Moore.What makes these players think they can loli-gag thru the game & then just turn it on?What makes them underestimate underated opponents to the point that they think by showing up they're untitled, no, OWED a win in their complacency.
Where was the leadership?Hey, in my line of work it's not enough for me to have energy. If something's lacking on the team, the leader has to inspire his(or her) teammates. Make them want to play hard with you. Make them want to share in your energy & increase it together.Share it with the fans. Feel their energy come back at you & all of the energy in the room growing. That's an incredible feeling.Other than the rookies, that game was sucking the energy off of the floor.Probably sucking it right out of the fans too.An energy vampire.

Far from Comtacstic, last night was Crapstatic. & from no fault of the fans.Quite the opposite.

by Rhondda Nunes on Feb 7, 2008 9:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs